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Commons Voting: My name missing?

Should I re-add my name? – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 02:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, sorry. I added your name to the verified list. Apologies, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:17pm • 02:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I wasn't sure if I broke a rule : ) – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 02:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My sincerest apologies. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:33pm • 02:33, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I beat you to it james :P --Guerillero | My Talk 02:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I noticed. Grrr... :P —James (Talk • Contribs) • 1:56pm • 03:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Bruce Hawker

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

reflinks

Hi AA, on Death of Osama bin Laden can reflinks fill in more of the reference than just the title, and leaving bot generated title? You could add an access date, publication date, and if you get more persistent an author publisher and work. Others are having to clean up afterwards. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That requires manual work, I'm just going through articles I watch and cleaning up some formatting. I'll fix it up later, thanks for keeping tabs on my work Graeme. Ack, it's going to be a lot harder what with the regular editing on the article, a slow coach like me has no chance. I'll leave a hidden notice above the references section, who knows... maybe others might follow suit and use proper references. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:15pm • 11:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi James, I think your hidden notice may be too deeply hidden! As people do not edit the references section. It may be better in the page edit notice that you see when you edit. But many contributors will not know how to use those cite templates! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, how silly of me! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:02pm • 12:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On a related point, it is probably unwise to promote the use of cite templates on a quasi-official page like an editnotice; WP:CITECONSENSUS, after much wrangling, explicitly rules out encouraging or discouraging their use. Personally, I use them religiously, but many senior editors deplore them for adding to the load time and producing idiosyncratic citations consistent with none of the established style guidelines. You might want to reconsider this in the editnotice. Cheers, Skomorokh 13:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The nbotice is probably actually unneeded, as other editors will fix it or just revert your whole edit. Higher standards are insisted for each edit in that article. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded it accordingly, the least a person could do is add the author, publisher, publication date and access date. Others shouldn't have to chase up after them. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:37pm • 09:37, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that, appreciate it. Skomorokh

No worries. I have come across one of those senior editors... perhaps they should use DSL instead of dial-up. :P —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:20am • 23:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, if you use the "interactive" tab of Reflinks, it will add accessdates and such (often publishers/authors, too). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh cool, I never knew that. Thanks Fetch! I'll go fix up the article now. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:28am • 01:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 2 May 2011

Mother's Day 2011 or 2012

Okay, I'm here again to bother you (again and again... sorry). Things seem to go much better at MOTD, right now. THANK YOU!!!
The reason why I'm writing you is the following: next Sunday (8th of May) is Mother's Day. I know that it is celebrated on different days around the world, but I'd love if we could (and are able to) make our "very-little" contribution in honour of all the mothers in the world. For the upcoming 8th of May (Sunday) there is already a motto in schedule, but I think that we can move the motto approved for that day to another date and to put one about mothers in place of it. Here is my nomination.
Thank you in advance and all the best! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 12:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commented, cheers proef. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:20am • 23:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MOTD Barnstar for helping to keep our project "alive"

The MOTD Barnstar
I award the MOTD Barnstar to Ancient Apparition for helping to keep our project "alive" during this difficult time. Without you and your so precious help and contributions, we all probably would have seen the end of this project. A BIG THANK YOU!!! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


A brief note, please, read it carefully, especially the last part in bold: The last time we (our project) gave awards to our (its) members on last Summer, then the number of new nominations and reviews of the existing nominations has been diminishing. The end result was the "April crisis" with no mottos for about an entire week. On the contrary, I hope this award will help to maintain our level high or, at least, appropriate to its needs, the needs of our project. I think that around 10 minutes a week to "devote" to the project, when it is possible of course, should be more than enough to achieve the desired result.
Of course, I gave you this award personally, in a personal way and not in the name of the project. This is just a way to say a BIG thank you, so, refrain from returning the award to me or I would be overwhelmed by stars and banners and it is not my intention to "profit" on this, really! Please, do NOT return the award! And, there is no need to thank me, it was my pleasure.
Thanks again (I think I can speak for all the contributors to MOTD) and all the very best!!! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 19:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks pjoef, its your efforts in organising the project and nominations that are helping in keeping the project alive. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:20am • 23:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE drive newsletter

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive

The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive.

Awards and barnstars
A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page.

We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

You are receiving a copy of this newsletter as you are a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, or have participated in one of our drives. If you do not wish to receive future newsletters, please add you name here. Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 07:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Stephen R. Hilbert Article

Hi James,

I've got a quick question for you. You tagged the Stephen R. Hilbert article as not having reliable sources. Which sources are you referring to? All of them are either mathematical papers published in academic journals, university records, links from the frequently cited Mathematics Genealogy Project, or other pages from university websites (all terminating with .edu). I'll be glad to search for alternate sources, but first, please tell me which ones you do not deem acceptable.

Thank you! 68.239.177.117 (talk) 01:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that wasn't the best tag. Could you add other third-party sources though, academic research is good, but what about biographical publications or newspaper articles on Hilbert? Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 2:17pm • 04:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll start searching for them. I appreciate your advice! 68.239.177.117 (talk) 04:37, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, good work with the article. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:53pm • 06:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/QR Code Structure
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:QR Code Structure Example 2.svg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 04:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:53pm • 06:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney

Ancient Apparition, I don't know where you have appeared from, but it obviously isn't Sydney!

Firstly, let me state that I loath and abhor those Cathedral boxes, even though that one has obviously been improved from the last. One problem is that the box gives about a zillion options, and people who do not actually write articles come along and fill them in, right down to the very last lay canon and probationer, if you give them half a chance.

I keep saying, and I'll say it again: all those option ought to be in horizontal boxes at the bottom. Why? because they disrupt the article and take up the whole of the precious right hand space where pics illustrating the subject matter can go. The article now has a neat box, but the pictures are a stuff up.

Also

  • The only decent photo of the facade (which is very hard to photograph), is a right-facing pic which looks ridiculous facing left, even when inside a box.
  • Francis Greenway had absolutely nothing to do with the present church.
  • The first architect was James Hume, whose name is omitted
  • The main architect was Edmund Blacket. The reason why you link didn't work, even though it worked in the text, was that you made the common error of spelling it with two t's.
  • The style is Perpendicular Gothic but this is misleading because the building is Gothic Revival and the statement that the style is "Perpendicular" needs to be made in context. This brings me to the problem that with many cathedrals, it is almost impossible to state what style they are in, in anything as concise as an info box. Trying to stck things like this in boxes doesn't work.
  • The term "cult" is really really inappropriate! This is not a Roman Catholic church. It is a most conscientiously UN-Roman-Catholic church. It doesn't have an "altar". It doesn't jave a cross in the sanctuary.... Oh Sorry! It doesn't have a "sanctuary". It does not have a "cult of St Andrew". It is SYDNEY. If you don't understand this, you don't know Sydney!
(In fact, Sydney does have a cult of sorts, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with any saint of old.)
(The term "cult", as an option in the box, is unfortunate. Even within the Roman Catholic church, it would be better to say "Titular saint" or "Dedication".)
  • Finally, you describe the Sydney as Broad church. Where on earth did that come from? There aint nuthin broad about Sydney! It would be reasonable to describe it as Low church and/or Calvinist.

It is partly for reasons of this type that I hate these boxes. You can't put this church in any convenient boxes, and to try to do so is inappropriate. Moreover, the more the box is left there, the more people will be tempted to add the sort of information that does not rate a first-page mention on any cathedral website.

If you are any good at devising these boxes, it would be a real service to me and others who write about churches, if you were to create one of those "pull down" horizontal boxes for Clergy and staff, and another on for dimensions. The dimensions would be particularly useful, and the staff could include everybody down to the last sub-assistant without getting in anybody's way.

Amandajm (talk) 10:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am from Sydney and also a practicing Roman Catholic, sorry about the infobox I only had a brief look at its documentation and I thought that since it was St. Andrew's Cathedral it'd centre primarily on St. Andrew, I didn't know it actually meant cult. It appears Perpendicular Gothic redirects to the subsection on English Gothic architecture (guess that's not the redirect I created :S) Also with the broad, low and high churches, I saw in churchmanship: knowledge of church doctorine and liturgical practice of regular attendants so I assumed it must have been broad. Bad assumption on my part. Also, I'm trying to find research myself since I thought I'd improve the article as I'm doing a site study on the cathedral.
I was only trying to help, that was my intention from the start. Also if the article is ever to meet quality standards an infobox is a must, we must all set aside our personal tastes, they don't belong on any article, while I myself do object to the layout of articles it's been widely accepted that infoboxes should be added where they can, articles on cathedrals (Peterborough Cathedral for example) have infoboxes too. I'll try and do more research on the cathedral itself and when I do have sufficient information I'll add an infobox and make sure that the information isn't completely wrong. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:16pm • 11:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh Dear! Unless you are "in the know" you ought not touch the Sydney Anglican articles! It is all extraordinarily political. As a Catholic, you cannot understand.... unless you have been there! You have almost as much temerity as the naive Canadian Evangelical who thought she could help, knowing that Sydney is "Evangelical" but without any concept of what that means in Sydney.
Can I suggest that you read the Anglican Diocese of Sydney article. I haven't looked at it for a while, but I believe that it does give an indication that they are in conflict with the rest of the Anglican Communion. Be aware that it is carefully maintained by Sydney Anglican Media.
When I suggested that there is a "cult", I perhaps ought to explain that it revolves around the Brothers Jensen, and its followers are called "Jensenites" by those who are disenchanted.
If you ever hear the words "Sydney Mafia" spoken by Anglicans then they are not referring to Italian Godfathers but a clique within the church. The terms "Jensenites" and "Sydney Mafia have been widely used for at least 20 years.
Sydney expounds a particular theology which is all its own. The bible college, Moore College is highly regarded for its academic status. On the other hand, many people, of whom I am one, strenuously disagree with some of the theology.
Sydney, however, has some admirable principles. One is that every sermon must relate directly to the scripture. I don't know whether you watched the marriage of William and Kate. There was a sort of omission there which simply could not have happened in Sydney: When the Bishop of London preached his sermon (which I felt was geared very much to the two young people that he knew) he did not refer at all to the reading from the Epistle which they had chosen, (and which was so beautifully read by her brother). The sermon and the reading were quite complimentary, but at no point did he draw on its material or make a quotation from it. In the Sydney Diocese, that simply would not have happened. Any Moore College trained preacher would have locked the two together in meaning, drawn the major points from and expounded on the subject matter of that scripture. They are taught to do this with considerable expertise. When I go to the UK I am always a little startled to hear sermons that make little or no reference to the Bible readings of the day. As an Evangelical church, this is Sydney's major strong point!
Cheers! Amandajm (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I note your comment about the lack of references in that article. I'm sure I can find plenty more. I'll see what I can do!Amandajm (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take those suggestions on board, I can create a navbox for the Anglican Cathedral Churches in Australia, if needed. When I do have more research on the Cathedral I'll use the infobox accordingly, also yes I do think that cult is not an appropriate heading for the saint to which the church/cathedral is dedicated. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:18am • 23:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi Ancient Apparition. I appreciate for completing the survey two weeks ago. I would like to return your favor with a reward of an online gift card with no condition. Please leave your email address in the final version of survey of my project. In addition, you can get chance to win $50 worth of gift card. It takes only 10 minutes to complete the final version because it contains only 35 questions. Thank you so much. cooldenny (talk) 13:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Be Ye Men of Valour

Hello again, James. I've been anxious to get a reply ever since I contacted Adam to ask about the copyright status of the suspended FSC, but pending his recent retirement it looks like, since you were the last to comment in the nomination, maybe I figure you could help clarify what's wrong with it. I know it must be very busy for you and all, but this is the only way I know about how to get this matter laid to rest. I hope you can respond soon.

Best, :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 05:35, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The categories for the corresponding copyright templates need a mass rename both locally and on Commons. I moved "Be Ye Men of Valour" to the suspended section because of the recording's unclear copyright status; is there any information on the speech and better even, that specific recording, in a UK government archive? Featured sounds need to be freely licensed as per the FS criterion. Cheers, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:51pm • 06:51, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You used the PD-192X template but the speech happened in the 1940s. It may be still copyrighted in the USA --Guerillero | My Talk 01:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FS

Het Wilhelmus
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:United States Navy Band - Het Wilhelmus.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Guerillero | My Talk 01:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers Guerillero :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:27am • 01:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help

It seems HBC Archiveindexer bot has not bee updating my archive index for the past 3 months and I have no idea why this is, if someone could tell me what I did wrong or why this is that'd be great. Thanks in advance, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:40am • 01:40, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that you mention it, it didn't for me either. Chzz asked Krellis (talk · contribs), who runs the bot, and it seems this change fixed it for him. Maybe you should try this. If it doesn't, you might want to contact Krellis directly. Regards SoWhy 08:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks SoWhy :) I'll go do that. Cheers, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 6:20pm • 08:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FS 2

Joy to the World (3 variations)
Your Featured sound candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured sound status, File:Joy to the World.ogg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another sound, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. Guerillero | My Talk 05:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James, please see my reasoning for only promoting this one file. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 05:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Understandable, thanks Guerillero. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 6:20pm • 08:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral boxes

Re your question, what you have asked about isn't exactly what I had in mind, but sounds useful! What I had in mind was a horizontal box or boxes that goes at the bottom of the article and is "pull down", with dimensions and personnel. These boxes exist for a whole range of topics, notably there is a list of the cathedrals of England. The Leonardo da Vinci articles have a good box at the bottom as well.

  • The actual number of Anglican dioceses in Australia isn't all that large, but I suppose a box that listed them all, like the box that there is for England, would be good. Under "The Anglican Church of Australia". The box could probably be almost identically formatted for "the Roman Catholic Church in Australia" (would that be the right terminology?)
  • A box that lists the parish churches for each diocese would be very much larger of course.
  • What I had in mind was a couple of general purpose boxes that could go under every cathedral giving a range of options to fill in the entire staff, if that is what people want to do. Having that option in the top vertical box (where it is now) is simply a nuisance.
  • Likewise a horizontal box could be created that could be applied to all cathedrals and churches giving the options to fill in the dimensions. In some cases, like St Peter's Basilica, there are about a zillion dimension, and if they are all located in the right hand box, then it extends the box to a ridiculous length. In that article there is a list of dimensions towards the bottom of the article, but it would be nice to have them in an attractive box. Cologne Cathedral is another church where the dimensions are of particular importance, and in that case, they are rendered as a rather unattractive grid.

If someone like you could create such boxes, I am sure that there are numerous people out there who would just love to fill them in. It's the sort of thing which occupies pedantic Wikipedians very happily, and keeps them too busy arguing out the last point two of a centimetre, and distracts them from continually hounding contributing writers over the MOS.

Oh I am abso-lutely stuffed! Mother's Day dinner at the local pub was incredibly delicious! The chef excelled himself!

Cheers! Amandajm (talk) 10:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that would be an ongoing project (1 for each church/cathedral would take a while considering the articles we have!), I was thinking more of a unified navigation template. I'll see what I can do and I'll base the unified navigation template off the existing Roman Catholic other. Sounds like you had a great time :) Cheers, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 8:32pm • 10:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The official name is the "Anglican Church of Australia". It's not the "Anglican Church in Australia". It is a separate entity, but part of the world wide Anglican Communion, along with the Episcopal Church which doesn't use the word Anglican in its title. Note the capital C for Church.
I wouldn't try to leave this page open to add parish churches. There are too many of them. If they are going to be listed in a template, then it needs to be within boxes that can be adapted to every different diocese.
What does need to appear in the cathedral box is the regional cathedrals which are present in some diocese, notably Sydney, which being hugely large and populous, has four regional bishops under the archbishop: The Bishop of North Sydney, the Bishop of South Sydney, the Bishop of Western Sydney and the Bishop of Wollongong. Three of these bishops are associated with Pro-Cathedrals. The Bishop of South Sydney didn't have a Pro-Cathedral when I left town, probably because dissidents like me were active members of the most suitable church in the South Sydney region. ......
The Bishop of South Sydney is Robert Forsyth. For many years he was parish priest at St Barnabas, Broadway, and, you may recall, had a running competition with the proprietor of the pub across the street. Barny's, as it was called, was very popular with university students. The Reverend Rob had one of those noticeboards in churchyard fronting onto Broadway, on which he put Bible verses and sayings of various sorts: "What's missing in CH__RCH? You are!" and so on. Every sign from God (so to speak) was matched by one from Mammon displayed on a similar board on the awning of the pub. The publican's comments were always witty, and never disrespectful. The banter went on for years and was eventually published in a book. Unfortunately, after Rob became Bishop of South Sydney, Barny's was burnt down by an arsonist.
Anyway, I am not suggesting that you personally have to take on the making of every box. If you can create a template with lots of options, then others will use it and fit in the names accordingly. Don't commit yourself to putting boxes on thousands of churches. Just make a really workable box! Amandajm (talk) 12:33, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That very same bishop used a golf club to knock the remaining wall on the old church to officially start the reconstruction I believe. I remember reading about it in "The Glebe" now the "Inner West Courier, shame about the church though :S With the template, I did add every church and cathedral I could find that was categorised (the sub-sections are just collapsed so that pages don't become too long to comfortably navigate), within every province sub-section there's a church and cathedral group, though I don't know if all the churches are there. What do you think of the navbox anywho? I'm going to hit the hay, I'll respond to messages tomorrow in the morning. Cheers, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:36pm • 12:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anglican template

Great work on this! I was thinking we should include the List of Anglican churches in the Diocese of Sydney and the List of Anglican churches in Melbourne, but I couldn't see of a good way of fitting them in. StAnselm (talk) 23:44, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I've got to do some presentations at school today so I won't have time to work on the template until... 2/3PM or thereabouts. If you look at the revision history you'll see the trouble I had with the template :P —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:57am • 23:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a look at those two pages and most of the churches don't have existing articles on them, thus I have not included them, but I will add a link to the list in the template. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:14pm • 07:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jay Meuser

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Anglican Church of Australia

Freddie, you are a little wonder!

Now, can I suggest that a little tweak? Put the heading Cathedrals above Churches, because that is how the episcopal hierarchy works.

I am so impressed! (thinks: and this person is not even Anglican!)

Incidentally, I wrote most of St Peter's Basilica, "St Mary's Cathedral" and also Cologne Cathedral and a few others.

Amandajm (talk) 07:31, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh cool :) I'll fix up the rest of it, thanks Amanda :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:32pm • 07:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at Durham Cathedral and it's bloody awful box! Someone has just entered two lay canons who are on the cathedral staff. That is the sort of stuff we desparately need a horizontal box for, to clear all the gunk off the right hand side. Also, a statement that the building is Romanesque, and built between two dates doesn't apply neatly to any of the older cathedrals in England except Salisbury. Amandajm (talk) 07:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed one little problem! You must call your template Anglican Church OF Australia, not IN Australia. Sorry to be pedantic, but that is it's official name. Amandajm (talk) 07:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, my mistake! I'll fix that up, with the horizontal infobox I'll see what I can do, what headings would I have to include, exactly? I'll have to look at some current templates for ideas, since I've never exactly come across a horizontal infobox ;) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:46pm • 07:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Though the article says the official name is Anglican Church of Australia, I'm puzzled. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 5:48pm • 07:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Award

The Featured Sound Barnstar
For keeping the FS process running and going above and beyond the call of duty I award you this barnstar. --Guerillero | My Talk 17:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Guerillero :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:33am • 23:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Regina Love (Queen Elizabeth II)

Hi James

Re. Wikipedia:Files_for upload#Elizabeth Regina Love .28Queen Elizabeth II.29 Cypher

The draft article is at: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Elizabeth Regina Love (Queen Elizabeth II) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.99.59.84 (talk) 19:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's the draft, fair use images are for article namespace pages, not AfCs. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:33am • 23:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.105.118.193 (talk) 06:55, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Err...

The archive index is getting updated, but it doesn't seem to recognise month names :S is there a wildcard character or something that can make the bot recognise month names? Ancient Apparition.alt (talk) 01:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Krellis looks like the place to ask. JohnCD (talk) 09:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right then, cheers! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:48pm • 09:48, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File move declined

I do not understand why the request to move File: Carroll Building Norwich.jpg to [[File:Rockwell Building Main St Norwich.jpg]] was declined. It is mislabeled, which is aim #3 of the file mover policy, correcting such inaccuracies. How can it be put into use if it cannot be found? 71.234.215.133 (talk) 07:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know the file move guidelines, but since the file is unused it'd make no difference if it was renamed or not. If you can find an article where the image would be appropriate I would happily reconsider. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 6:03pm • 08:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

pending notices

Hi, the template wording is under discussion here Wikipedia_talk:Pending_changes/Request_for_Comment_February_2011#Notices - perhaps you would like to input, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commented. Thanks! —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:41pm • 09:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

Hi, just curious... what's "TE"? Presumably not Tennis Europe... Catfish Jim & the soapdish 12:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's an acronym for TechEssentials: [1] which is basically a technology-centred wiki. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:27pm • 12:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Doubly confusing... Sven made it sound sinister. Catfish Jim & the soapdish 13:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well there's been controversy surrounding the TE bunch, especially with the Sophie incident. I'm not sure if you followed that case but that didn't leave them in the best light. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:58pm • 02:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a good idea to be discussing this onwiki. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:50, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My neutral stance

I intend to move to support in your RfA. The reason I am neutral, and what I wish you would have done, would have been to disclose upfront your previous username(s). See for example this disclosure which is the manner preferred. Nevertheless, I am convinced by the measurable quality of your existing contributions, coupled with a sensibly mature attitude and genuine intentions, that you are deserving of support. Mine you shall have! Best regards - My76Strat (talk) 19:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, sorry about that. Most of the are at User:Ancient Apparition/Alt acct, User:Fridae'sDoom Sock, User:Ancient Apparition.alt, User:Ancient Apparition Public. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:03am • 00:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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RFA

Hi James,

somehow I missed you nominating yourself for an RFA until after it was all over. I can see that you are keen. A way to help in success is to wait for someone to nominate you. You have hardly started yet on the training that you need. But at least you now have a clue as to what the process is like from personal experience. It became evident that you need to have more practical experience with speedy deletes.

One point to start with speedy delete is to look at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and see what should be rescued rather than needing administrator action to delete. The A1 no context can often be rescued by writing another sentence to clarify if you can work out what they are talking about. For A7 see if you can recognise a claim of importance and then you can remove the speedy delete tag. For G11 you can remove promotional text and leave the factual material behind. G1 nonsense is often a mistag as there is a strict definition for WP:nonsense. This can often be changed to some other speedy delete criteria or a prod. For authors attempting to delete their own material, you can check if they are really the author. If they use some other tag you can check the history and change it to G7 if it makes more sense that way. A2 for foreign material is often a mistake, as it should already be posted on another language Wikipedia. If you can translate it you may find it is a speedy delete candidate for another criterion. You can also give feedback to the speedy delete tagger so that they do not repeat tagging mistakes. For an exercise you could rescue/retag 100 CSD articles. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah RfA is the best place to get assessed on one's editing and to give suggestions for candidates on how they many improve their editing. It is my intention to work in the areas of admin work where the opposers felt I need to do more work at. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:34am • 00:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Washington birthdate, Old Style/New Style etc.

Just wanted to let you know the birthdate and Old Style/New Style has been previously discussed in various permutations before, at the present those discussions are all in the Talk:George Washington archives:

In my opinion this particular lede is always teetering on the brink of unwieldy. Personally, I think the previous form of the inline cites appearing later is fine (I seem to remember - in an MOS sense - that the lede does not have to have inline citations as long as its assertions are sourced in the main body?) Anyway, in this instance, the birthdate information along with the change from "Old Style" to "New Style", are all referenced in the first sentence of the main part of the article (Early Life section).
Also, in looking at your edits I see you removed a citation to an image of the Washington family Bible (from the Washington Papers Archive at UVA). This particular image shows the birth information as it was contemporaneously recorded along with hard to find birth information on some of Washington's siblings so for now I have added this cite back into the articles.
If you don't mind, I think the lede having or not having these particular cites cites should be discussed on the article's talkpage, so I have opened a discussion there. If you disagree with my edit re the UVA Washington Arhives/family Bible image, just give me a Talkback & I'm sure we can come to some kind of consensus about it. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 12:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I apologize for mis-reading the edit history. I see now that you didn't delete the family Bible/UVA Washington Papers cite but instead altered the image ref into an "a,b" form. Still welcome your thoughts re:the lede cites on the article's talkpage. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 12:28, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The OS/NS dates were removed without discussion. Yes it's true that citations don't have to appear in the lead, but when I edited the article all the refs used for his DOB and DOD were in the lead first, but then got moved into the early life sections and also the sections got reorganised from the last time I edited. I'll happily opine in the talk page discussion. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:34am • 00:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Adopt

Hiya Ancient apparition (cool name) I was wondering if you would adopt me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheTrainEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 22:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, add your name to User:Ancient Apparition/Adoption and choose a course you want to do, anything you need just ask and I'll help where possible. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:34am • 00:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I want to start with the policies section first. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 01:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I'm currently at school, when you're done with the questions I'll review your answers. The courses just contain the basic fundamentals of editing, I'm willing to cater to your interests, remember adoption is about you, not me. I'm here to guide you along the way and give you recommendations and help you progress your editing. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 2:14pm • 04:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I assumed you were watching your email. Sorry about that —James (Talk • Contribs) • 2:14pm • 04:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

al new article

hey hello james and thanks for your help an this new article

http://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Alexis_Mendiola but is difficult find a good source because this person is beginning his carrer in the football soccer, so I put some sources about this person, where they talk about his career or his stay at his club, anyways, I put a new source, where the person give an interview and talk about his career, i don't know if this can help me to create this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.153.78.176 (talk) 08:43, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Hey James hello again, I'd want to ask you wich of my sources are wrong because I've edited again the article and I erased some of the sources and I saw some pages about other footballers in wikipedia and I put some sources that I think are good.

Your public key

Hello, I'm just letting you know that you know that your PGP template is currently showing the default key ID instead of your actual key ID, which is 0x0A553464. Also, it's not on the linked server. If you want to fix it, your key is actually at http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x0A553464. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 09:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The key ID and server were right at the time I last edited that template, I guess my keys must have gotten moved. Thanks Feezo, I'll fix it now :) Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:14pm • 09:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for revising "Géa" and please help!

Dear James (Ancient Apparition): Thank you very much for the time you spent in revising the page "Géa", which I created - I am a reader of the book, not its author. The page was not accepted, and so I've tried to improve it with the new subtitle "Géa - Citations and Notability", where I put the original Portuguese citations and the best translation I could do for these citations (and I don't know if it's better to let in the page only the English translations or both, the Portuguese original citations and the English translations). I am a Brazilian, my English is what you can see in the page "Géa" and here... Please! help me with the English, correcting it! And also, please help me in avoiding the "essay" style. I have done my best to avoid it, but couldn't do better. The book is really great, its Portuguese is perfect, but I and my "English" am not. Please help! 187.13.15.246 (talk) 10:47, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the infobox as it was irrelevant, however, the submission now appears to have a large chunk of Portuguese text in one section, this needs to be translated. With the rest of the article the references appear to remain unchanged, for a submission to be moved into the mainspace it needs to have verifiable statements through the use of citations to independent, reliable sources, assert notability. At the moment it is not verifiable (Wikipedia articles should not be included as a reference) and fails to assert notability, see WP:VRS. I'm not an expert on this topic so unfortunately I cannot be of much more assistance, though I do urge you to read these guides: WP:YFA and WP:REFB. Good luck and regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:01pm • 11:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - Portuguese citations removed from "Géa" page and a Synopsis included

Thank you very much for the answer! I removed the Portuguese citations from page "Géa", and included a Synopsis. I will read now all the articles you kindly suggested and try to do a better job! Please read the citations (all only in English now - and I removed the Wikipédia citation), the sources are perhaps now relevant, as is the case of the Jornal da Tarde, who has an article in En Wiki. If you have time, please help me with the English in the page! It's my best "English" and I have nobody to help me in improoving it. Good luck for you too and regards!!! 187.13.15.246 (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice work, the article now reads a lot better :) I have only 1 more suggestion, alter the layout of the article ever so slightly to conform to the style guidelines for article layout and then add some citations, at the moment the article only has 3 and some external links a present before some of the article's text. The article is definitely notable, however, in the references section you mention some of the references used are present in other articles, if you can copy these citations over and use them in the submission I'd happily move the submission into the article namespace. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:46pm • 11:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Working!!! Thank you immensely, James!!! I've included the References in the page "Géa"!

I am very moved with you kind help! I'm working in the page "Géa", doing my very best! Excuse-me, please, for my "English" in the page! The References are already now in the page, and I'm working to follow all the suggestions you so kindly gave. Best regards! 187.13.15.246 (talk) 12:04, 21 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.15.246 (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome. When it's ready I or another volunteer will assess the submission again. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:17pm • 12:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My oppose in your RFA

Hi. Sorry I am late to your reply to my oppose in your RFA since you closed your RFA. But I am here just to clarify my oppose if you did not understand my oppose. I was not holding a grudge against you for nominating my page for deletion. But you had given small reasons that were not worthy for deletion, which shows that you did not understand the main purpose of the page. Good luck. -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 06:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm I understood what MfD was full-well, my view at the time was that the page did not belong on Wikipedia because it was slightly misleading and redundant to the New Admin's guide, the community largely agreed on this but also agreed that deletion was not the best way to deal with the page, rather it should be improved upon. I do hope it has improved since I MfD'd it last time. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:44pm • 06:44, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since you left a {{talkback}} on my talkpage Porchcrop, I hope you could clarify further - what exactly is a "small" reason? To me, that means a reason like this. I have to agree with James here, he submitted a deletion request at MfD, hence he must have understood the main purpose for the page. Sorry, but if anything, you clarification has made me even more confused. [stwalkerster|talk] 13:55, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay I now see what you meant James. Stwalkerster, a small reason is "small meaning", not "small text". If you look in the MFD, see the nomination rationale and comments by James in the MFD and see the page that was associated with the MFD, and could you explain how James was correct with what he was saying? -Porchcrop (talk|contributions) 08:15, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The page "Géa" is ready for new analysis

Hi, James! Thank you for the answer above. I followed the best I could the suggestions you kindly gave: tried to improve the layout (but, please, if possible, improve it better for me) and included the references 3 and 4 to the book of Camilo Castelo Branco, now best specified, with links to external sites where it can be found and with the copy of the mention to the same book which is in the En Wiki Camilo Castelo Branco article. I hope you or other En Wiki member may analyze the page "Géa" again. If there are any new suggestions, please tell me and I will continue to work in that page! If you may help with the English text and a best layout, please do. I studied the Wiki page about layout you recommended but couldn't see, with my inexperienced eyes, where to improve more that aspect of "Géa" page.

I also included three illustrations in page "Géa", from "Géa" books. Please, tell me if that is a good idea or if would be better to remove the illustrations.

Best Regards! 187.13.15.246 (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If the illustrations help define the information and are relevant to the topic, they should be included. Also external links should not be used in the body text, include them in the "External links" section but not the body of the submission. The references you used check out, I'll try and improve it where I can. Good work :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 12:00pm • 02:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, James! I (the person who created "Géa" page) am moved when reading the magnificent work you are doing in improving the English of that page. As I read a note in the History of the page, where you say something like "to do not edit the page during it's revision", and as I read above in this entry your instructions about external links, please tell me if you will remove yourself these links from the body text and include them in the "External links" section, or if I can since now do it myself. Waiting for your answer, I will not edit the page "Géa" now. About the illustrations, I think they help to define the information and are relevant to the topic, because they are part of the book and also part of the work of the same author who wrote the book. Thank you immensely for the help in improving that page. 187.13.17.184 (talk) 11:33, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit it, as you are the author and being the author you would have most knowledge on the subject by comparison. That message was a note to the reviewers. Originally someone was going to copyedit it but they're offline now. If you could improve it in whatever way you could that would be much appreciated. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:36pm • 11:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind answer, James! I will look for the links inside the body of the text now and include them in the "External links". 187.13.17.184 (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, thank you for taking the time to improve the article. It is well-appreciated. Also take note of our policy on neutrality when editing the article, try and make sure the article conforms to this policy as much as possible. Try and include criticism of the book, if any. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:45pm • 11:45, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the answer. I am a lover of the book and an admirer of the author, it's very difficult for me to be neutral, but I am doing my best. About criticism, there are only applauses, which may be read in the massive page "Opiniões sobre Géa" (in Portuguese, site www.ccdb.gea.nom.br - the author's site). The criticisms in the articles and reportings I know are all applauses too, which can be read in the articles and reportings whose links I included in the page "Géa". I could not find any person or specialist who had read "Géa" and could say or write any word against. About the presence of links inside the body of the page "Géa", I removed them - please see if it is well now. Where there were those links I put the phrase "(see link for it in the "External Links", below)". I know it's long and cumbersome; please, transform it in a better English. For the moment, I am thinking but cannot find more ways I could of improving the page - but I will continue to read and reread it and try to improve it still more. Best regards! 187.13.17.184 (talk) 12:13, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Two more sections in page "Géa"

Hi, James! I said above that couldn't find more relevant topics to include in the page "Géa", but I remembered two, which I included few minutes ago (with my "English"...) in the page. They are "Extraterrestrial languages" and "Cover". I included also a topic "Criticisms" in the page, whith links to the author's pages where he invites specialists for criticism and where therare opinions about "Géa" (several in English, the majority in Portuguese). Please, if you think one, two or all of them are not relevant, delete them; or if you like, please correct my "English". Regards! 187.13.17.184 (talk) 12:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When citing sources do not use a source that is affiliated with the subject, see identifying reliable sources for more information. There's not much more I can help with. I'd ask that you be neutral in your writing as you have said that you are fan of the author and his works, which can be a problem as your point of view may not be shared by everyone. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:48pm • 06:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FS Director

Congrats you are now a FS director. If you have any questions about this feel free to ask --Guerillero | My Talk 01:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for considering me able for the job, I hope I'll do it to a satisfactory standard. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:57am • 01:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What I learned

I learned that signing your posts to talk pages is good practice, and I already knew that signing your name to edits on articles is bad practice. I learned that articles must be well-sourced, and it's bad if they are not well sourced. I also read the page on verifiabiltiy, and found out what is and what isn't a reliable source. I learned that even if an edit looks like vandalism if it was made with good intentions it is not vandalism.

I learned that you must remain civil in conversations with other users. I learned that Wikipedia is centered around five (I think) core policies, and that the policies are not rules, they're just guidelines. I learned that if you want to make an edit, but you're not sure if it is right, be bold and do it anyway, because if it's wrong someone will come and clean it up and let you know that you've made a mistake. Oh, and I also learned that using edit summaries is good practice, too. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 14:46, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very good :) I'm impressed, remember that competence is required and that while civility and good-faith are required when engaging others in discussion, especially dealing with users who repeatedly insert false information or defamatory material into an article, sure they may "mean well" the first 3/4 edits and claim that they're "new and aren't familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, but after numerous warnings there's simply no room to continue assuming good-faith, that is where one should be "to-the-point" and warn them in a passive-aggressive manner:
"You have been warned multiple times to stop inserting vandalism and defamatory material into the article on John Doe, you are violating the policy on biographies of living people and if you refuse to comply you may be blocked.", after which if they still refuse you should ask for administrator intervention on the matter.
Choose another course and perhaps take on some article writing/improving, you're interested in topics on Nevada and trains, try find a stub about something related to Nevada or trains that you'd be familiar with and improve it, when using references may I suggest using the Gadget "ProveIt" it's a helpful tool that makes adding references a whole lot easier, to add it just go to Special:Preferences and click on the Gadgets tab, under Editing gadgets check the box next to "ProveIt" and click save preferences. Keep up the good work :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 3:56pm • 05:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How can I find a stub article about Nevada or trains? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 19:40, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Goto Category:Nevada stubs or Category:Rail stubs. Good luck and remember if you need help just give me a holler :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:03am • 00:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I chose this article: Currant, Nevada. How do I add an information box to it? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 00:57, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) A quick look at Template:Infobox should be helpful to you. Since you're working on a settlement article, I would probably use Template:Infobox settlement. I use this template all the time when writing articles on Utah's ghost towns and unincorporated communities. Good luck. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 17:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that Utahraptor :) The main container category for infoboxes is located here: Category:Infobox_templates. You'll find the subcategories that are most relevant to the article you want to write there and the documentation as appropriate. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:02am • 00:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Utahraptor and AA. I will add the box to the article. Also, I've decided what lesson I want to do next. I want to do the vandalism lesson next. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 00:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, as always I'm here if you need anything :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:02am • 01:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I added the box. Can you take a look at it? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 01:07, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the infobox above the test of the article, remember infoboxes to the top of the article. Also if you can expand the article and add references as it's currently a stub. See WP:YFA and WP:REFB for help. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:16am • 01:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)`[reply]
I can't find any online sources other than the one source that is already in the article. I have books about Nevada, but none of them mention Currant. What do I do now? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 21:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the vandalism page said to inform you if I'm using Internet Explorer. I am. What do I do now? By the way, I've been using popups to revert vandalism; how am I doing? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 21:38, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're doing well, if you want I can do a Credo Reference search for Currant. Also with Internet Explorer you can't use scripts such as Twinkle, Friendly and Igloo. If you can I suggest you download Firefox. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:24am • 23:24, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I downloaded it. Now what do I do? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Install Firefox, then log into Wikipedia on Firefox after it's installed, after logging in goto Special:Preferences and click on Gadgets and check the Twinkle and Twinkle: Friendly boxes to enable the gadgets. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:17am • 00:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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How can I add another line to a discography like this? Conkern65 (talk) 17:21, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Richard D. James}}

June 2011 Wikification Drive

Sumsum2010·T·C 04:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse response e-mail

Hi James, while actioning on an abuse response report and contacting ISPs, should I just mail the ISP, or should I cc it to the mailing list or something? Thanks. Lynch7 •Talk 10:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All communications via email should be CC'd to the mailing list, that way everything is manageable. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 6:37pm • 08:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I should use this template right? Lynch7 08:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is correct. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:07pm • 09:07, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Hey there! Thanks for helping me on the Abuse Response! --Damirgraffiti ☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 13:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome :) If there's a case waiting for investigation, why don't you take it on as investigator and contactor? I'll give you help along the way. Regards, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:23am • 00:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I"ll monitor the Abuse response daily. I also signed up for the mailing list and a Abuse response member checks your request is that correct?--Damirgraffiti ☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 23:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism lesson assignment

What is vandalism?

Vandalism is the changing of a page in order to disrupt Wikipedia.

List 3 situations where a edit which could be considered vandalism, may not actually be vandalism.

1. When a new user makes an edit but doesn't know exactly what they're doing.

2. When a reason is given for removing content, in the case of content removing vandalism.

3. Test edits to the sandbox.

What are obvious indicators of a vandalism edit while watching recent changes?

The tags sometimes indicate vandalism.

How do you revert vandalism?

With popups you move your mouse over the prev button and if it's vandalism, click rv. With Twinkle you click on the prev button, and if it's vandalism you click the "rollback vandal" button.

What warning template would you use if a user removed or blanked all the content from a page?

It depends. If it's their first time, then you would add the uw-vand1 template. If it's their second time, you would add the uw-vand2 template, etc.

What warning template would you use if a user add the words "i really hate wikipedia!" to an article?

See above.

How do you add an article to your watchlist?

By clicking the star on the top of the screen.

If you misuse such tools as WP:TW or WP:VPRF what could happen?

You could have your rights removed.

I'm not sure about a couple of these answers, so please tell me where (and if) I went wrong. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 01:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very good, however, if the vandalism is very serious you would use {{uw-vand4im}} straight off, template's 1-4 are for first instances any instances afterward. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 11:33am • 01:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK. What happens after I finish the required lessons? Do I graduate, or is there more planned for me? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 21:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When you finish the required lessons and I am confident of your abilities I'll give you a test which will be a recap of everything you've done/learned. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:14am • 23:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image

How do I upload an image? I have a photo of me and my grandson that I want to put on my userpage. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 21:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To upload an image goto Special:Upload and then fill in the fields as appropriate. Add the {{Information}} template to the description field of the upload form. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:14am • 23:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Look at File:TheTrainEnthusiast.jpg. It glitched. I don't know what to do now. How do I reupload it? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 23:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Mason

Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions states that non-administrators should restrict themselves to closing "unanimous or nearly unanimous discussions after a full listing period". With that in mind, why did you close Andrew Mason (businessman) contrary to popular consensus without relisting or waiting for an admin to do it? You seem to have supervoted saying "there is no evidence that the subject is the primary topic" despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. You even forgot to add the correct formatting to your closure. I would have let this oversight go if it weren't for this butchered move (moved to the wrong place before the customary 7 day waiting period), or this one. Marcus Qwertyus 01:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One thing, the article for Andrew Mason (businessman) is poorly written and given that 2 sysops were of similar opinion I don't think that's coincidental. Page views for each article is highly irrelevant, what about Google searches, webpages for which person are returned more than others? With the move of Grace Under Fire I misread the intended location for the move, that was my fault entirely and I'm glad it got fixed up shortly thereafter. With the anti-cuts protest, March for the Alternative WAS NOT used by the sources, if the references themselves did not mention the phrase "march for the alternative" then there's no reason for the article to be moved there and March for the Alternative is far, far too ambiguous. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:11pm • 06:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please just restrict yourself to unanimous or nearly unanimous discussions okay? I could get into the intricacies of WP:Primary topic but that would be off-topic as the closure shouldn't have even happened. Marcus Qwertyus 15:45, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 30 May 2011

WikiCup 2011 May newsletter

We're half way through round 3 of the 2011 WikiCup. There are currently 32 remaining in the competition, but only 16 will progress to our penultimate round. Scotland Casliber (submissions), of pool D, is our overall leader with nearly 200 points, while pools A, B and C are led by Texas Racepacket (submissions), Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions) and Saskatchewan Canada Hky (submissions) respectively. The score required to reach the next round is 35, though this will no doubt go up significantly as the round progresses. We have a good number of high scorers, but also a considerable number who are yet to score. Please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. Also, an important note concerning nominations at featured article candidates: if you are nominating content for which you intend to claim WikiCup points, please make this clear in the nomination statement so that the FAC director and his delegates are aware of the fact.

A running total of claims can be seen here. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:27, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit notices

What on Earth is the purpose of these?  Chzz  ►  05:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Look at Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Wikipedia talk. I'm creating blank edit notices to suppress that default namespace editnotice which is highly irrelevant and unhelpful. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 4:02pm • 06:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can see some cases where you've done it where the namespace editnotice isn't quite right - but others, eg WT:ROLLBACK, are a bit odd. I've added instructions on hiding the notice per user. Can you remove some of the ones you did where the notice is appropriate? Rd232 talk 09:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I'm not sure if I should re-add it to the script/automated program talk pages since it's kinda stating the obvious on said pages. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 8:08pm • 10:08, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted the pages (plus some others where the notice is useful), as otherwise you don't get the CSS ID (that's not part of the template, it's part of the namespace editnotice). Rd232 talk 10:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right thanks, I added them because I thought that the default editnotice wasn't very helpful. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 8:21pm • 10:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't help there, or more generally? There's a parameter for adding text (using the template), and you're welcome to improve the template. Rd232 talk 11:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anywhere, it was far too general. I'll see what I can do to try and improve it. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:13pm • 11:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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