Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates

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This star, with one point broken, symbolizes the featured candidates on Wikipedia.

Featured pictures are images that add significantly to articles, either by illustrating article content particularly well, or being eye-catching to the point where users will want to read its accompanying article. Taking the adage that "a picture is worth a thousand words", the images featured on Wikipedia:Featured pictures should illustrate a Wikipedia article in such a way as to add significantly to that article, according to the featured picture criteria.

Promoting an image

If you believe an image should be featured, create a subpage (use the "For Nominations" field, below) and add the subpage to the current nominations section.

For promotion, if an image is listed here for ten days with five or more reviewers in support and the consensus is in its favor, it can be added to the Wikipedia:Featured pictures list. Consensus is generally regarded to be a two-thirds majority in support, including the nominator and/or creator of the image; however, anonymous votes are generally disregarded, as are opinions of sockpuppets.

All users may comment. However, only those who have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and with at least 100 edits will be included in the numerical count. If necessary, decisions about close candidacies will be made on a case-by-case basis. Nominations started in December are given three extra days, due to the holidays slowing down activity here.

The archive contains all opinions and comments collected for candidate nominations and their nomination results.

If you nominate an image here, please consider also uploading and nominating it at Commons to help ensure that the pictures can be used not just in the English Wikipedia but on all other Wikimedia projects as well.

Delisting an image

A featured picture can be nominated for delisting if you feel it no longer lives up to featured picture standards. You may also request a featured picture be replaced with a superior image. Create a subpage (use the "For Delists" field, below) and add the subpage to the current nominations section.

Please leave a note on the talk page of the original FPC nominator (and creator/uploader, if appropriate) to let them know the delisting is being debated. The user may be able to address the issues and avoid the delisting of the picture.

For delisting, if an image is listed here for ten days with five or more reviewers supporting a delist or replace, and the consensus is in its favor, it will be delisted from Wikipedia:Featured pictures. Consensus is generally regarded to be a two-thirds majority in support, including the nominator. Note that anonymous votes are generally disregarded, as are opinions of sockpuppets. However, images are sometimes delisted despite having fewer than five in support of their removal, and there is currently no consensus on how best to handle delist closures, except that:If the image to be delisted is not used in any articles by the time of closure, it must be delisted. If it is added to articles during the nomination, at least one week's stability is required for the nomination to be closed as "Kept". The nomination may be suspended if a week hasn't yet passed to give the rescue a chance.

Outside of the nominator, all voters are expected to have been on Wikipedia for 25 days and to have made a minimum of 100 edits. If necessary, decisions about close candidacies will be made on a case-by-case basis. As with regular nominations, delist nominations are given three extra days to run if started in December.

  • Note that delisting an image does not mean deleting it. Delisting from Featured pictures in no way affects the image's status in its article(s).

Featured content:

Featured picture tools:

Step 1:
Evaluate

Evaluate the merit of a nomination against the featured picture criteria. Most users reference terms from this page when evaluating nominations.

Step 2:
Create a subpage
For Nominations

To create a subpage of Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates for your nomination, add a title for the image you want to nominate in the field below (e.g., Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Labrador Retriever) and click the "Create new nomination" button.


For Delists (or Delist & Replace)

To create a subpage for your delist, add a title for the image you want to delist/replace in the field below and click the "Create new delist nomination" button.


Step 3:
Transclude and link

Transclude the newly created subpage to the Featured picture candidate list (direct link).

How to comment for Candidate Images

  • Write Support, if you approve of the picture. A reason is optional.
  • Write Oppose, followed by your reasoning, if you disapprove of the picture. All objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale that, if addressed, would make you support the image. If your concern is one that can only be addressed by the creator, and if they haven't nominated or commented on the image, and if they are a Wikipedian, you should notify them directly.
  • You can weak support or weak oppose instead, so that your opinion will be weighed as half of a "full" opinion.
    • To change your opinion, strike it out (with <s>...</s>) rather than removing it.
  • If you think a nominated image obviously fails the featured picture criteria, write Speedy close followed by your reasons. Nominations may be closed early if this is the case.
Recommendations added early in the process may be disregarded if they do not address concerns and/or improvements that arise later in the debate. Reviewers are advised to monitor the progress of a nomination and update their votes accordingly.
Prior to giving an opinion, the image should be assessed on its quality as displayed at full size (high-resolution) in an image editing program. Please note that the images are only displayed at thumbnail size on this page. The thumbnail links to the image description page which, in turn, links to the high-resolution version.

How to comment for Delist Images

  • Write Keep, followed by your reasons for keeping the picture.
  • Write Delist, followed by your reasons for delisting the picture.
  • Write Delist and Replace if you believe the image should be replaced by a better picture.
  • You can weak keep, weak delist or weak delist and replace instead, so that your opinion will be weighed as half of a "full" opinion.
    • To change your opinion, strike it out (with <s>...</s>) rather than removing it.
Please remember to be civil, not to bite the newbies and to comment on the image, not the person.

You may find the glossary useful when you encounter acronyms or jargon in other voters' comments. You can also link to it by using {{FPCgloss}}.

Editing candidates

If you feel you could improve a candidate by image editing, please feel free to do so, but do not overwrite or remove the original. Instead, upload your edit with a different file name (e.g., add "edit" to the file name), and display it below the original nomination. Edits should be appropriately captioned in sequential order (e.g., Edit 1, Edit 2, etc), and describe the modifications that have been applied.

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Great golden digger wasp (31760).jpg Great golden digger wasp


Non-Biting Diptera Midge Larva.jpg Polarized light microscopy

Current nominations[edit]

Celestine[edit]

Voting period ends on 22 Aug 2022 at 02:15:31 (UTC)

Original – Clear grey-blue celestine crystals
Reason
Quality lead image of this crystal. Saw this on Commons recently.
Articles in which this image appears
Celestine, Acantharea, Biomineralization
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Geology
Creator
Ivar Leidus

Il trovatore (redux)[edit]

Voting period ends on 21 Aug 2022 at 23:36:50 (UTC)

Original – Poster for Il trovatore, showing the end scene where de Luna (centre) learns the person has just sentenced to death, and whom Leonora (lower right, dead[1]) was in love with instead of him... was, in fact, his long-lost brother whom he had been looking for the whole opera. Oops!
Reason
Previous nomination was during a bad time, I think - lots of images failed around then - but it was praised here, and passed with unanimous support on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Il trovatore, Luigi Morgari
FP category for this image
WP:FP/THEATRE
Creator
Luigi Morgari restored by Adam Cuerden

Polarized light microscopy[edit]

Voting period ends on 16 Aug 2022 at 18:36:00 (UTC)

Original – Internal structures of a midge fly larva depicted via polarized light microscopy (7mm long x 0.7mm wide specimen)
Reason
High resolution image shows the utility of Polarized light microscopy. It shows the details of a 7mm long (0.27 inch) by 0.7mm wide (0.027 inch) larva of a Midge fly including its internal fibers and structures. Commons FP since January and stable lead image in polarized microscopy since then.
Articles in which this image appears
Polarized light microscopy
FP category for this image
Biology, Photographic techniques, Insects
Creator
Karl Gaff
  • Support as nominatorBammesk (talk) 18:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment "Unidentified species" - unfortunately. Gorgeous image though, so leaning to support. --Janke | Talk 18:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support. Identification to the order level is a little weak, but I suppose distinctions grow over development. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8% of all FPs 15:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great golden digger wasp[edit]

Voting period ends on 16 Aug 2022 at 17:14:50 (UTC)

OriginalGreat golden digger wasp, Brooklyn, New York
Reason
Quality lead image of this wasp. FP on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Great golden digger wasp
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Rhododendrites

Australasian shoveler[edit]

Voting period ends on 16 Aug 2022 at 15:44:22 (UTC)

Original – Male Australasian shoveler (Spatula rhynchotis), Goulds Lagoon Wildlife Sanctuary, Tasmania
Reason
Was seen on Commons FPC last week, where it was featured unanimously.
Articles in which this image appears
Australasian shoveler
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
JJ Harrison

Ganymede[edit]

Voting period ends on 16 Aug 2022 at 15:31:17 (UTC)

Original – Ganymede is a moon of Jupiter, taken by Juno.
Reason
High quality, difficult to replace image.
Articles in which this image appears
Ganymede (moon) etc.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
Creator
NASA/JPL-Caltech/SwRI/MSSS/Kevin M. Gill

Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto[edit]

Voting period ends on 15 Aug 2022 at 17:34:37 (UTC)

OriginalJupiter, Neptune and Pluto, a 1597–1600 painting by Caravaggio
Reason
High resolution
Articles in which this image appears
Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto, 1597 in art, List of paintings by Caravaggio
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Caravaggio
This looks a bit different and mirror-image the copy on the museum site, and also seems scaled up a bit. It's a great painting, though. Especially Cerberus. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8% of all FPs 10:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They are not the same image. There is also no source for this FPC on the file page, only the other - which apparently is just an on-line "museum" by two individuals. This image is marked "self-scanned", whatever that means - printed source, perhaps? Interestingly, the largest version is found (TinEye) on a stock photo site, asking for payment for a PD image... Withholding judgement because of all this. --Janke | Talk 18:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, that's the source given for this. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8% of all FPs 20:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • There are two photos of this painting here and here. They clearly show the nom image is a flipped version of the original. About copyright, correct me if I am wrong, I don't think any photo of such an old painting can be copyrighted. Bammesk (talk) 02:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well, this is an odd case: It's on an arched roof as far as I'm aware, so it's not a flat 2D work. It's not much more than one, though, so you could probably argue it's not enough to get photo copyright. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.1% of all FPs 00:27, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nominations — to be closed[edit]

Nominations in this category are older than ten days and are to be closed. New votes will no longer be accepted.

Older nominations requiring additional input from users[edit]

These nominations have been moved here because consensus is impossible to determine without additional input from those who participated in the discussion. Usually this is because there was more than one edit of the image available, and no clear preference for one of them was determined. If you voted on these images previously, please update your vote to specify which edit(s) you are supporting.

Closing procedure[edit]

A script is available that automates the majority of these tasks: User:Jujutacular/closeFPC

When NOT promoted, perform the following:

  1. Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FPC/subpage:
    {{FPCresult|Not promoted| }} --~~~~
    • Do NOT put any other information inside the FPCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
  2. If the nominator is new to FPC, consider placing {{subst:NotpromotedFPC|Image name}} on their talk page. To avoid overuse, do not use the template when in doubt.

When promoted, perform the following:

  1. Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FPC/subpage:
    {{FPCresult|Promoted|File:FILENAME.JPG}} --~~~~
    • Replace FILENAME.JPG with the name of the file that was promoted. It should show up as:
    Promoted File:FILENAME.JPG
    • Do NOT put any other information inside the FPCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
  2. Add the image to:
  3. Add the image to the proper sub-page of Wikipedia:Featured pictures - newest on top.
    The caption for a Wikipedian created image should read "Description at Article, by Creator". For a non-Wikipedian, it should be similar, but if the creator does not have an article, use an external link if appropriate. For images with substantial editing by one or more Wikipedians, but created by someone else, use "Description at Article, by Creator (edited by Editor)" (all editors involved should be clear from the nomination). Additionally, the description is optional - if it's essentially the same as the article title, then just use "Article, by Creator". Numerous examples can be found on the various Featured Pictures subpages.
  4. Add the image to the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Featured pictures - newest on left and remove the oldest from the right so that there are always three in each section.
  5. Add the Featured Picture tag and star to the image page using {{Featured picture|page_name}} (replace page_name with the nomination page name, i.e., the page_name from Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/page_name). To add this template you most likely will have to click the "create" button on the upper right if the "edit" button is not present, generally if the image originates from Commons.
  6. If an edited or alternative version of the originally nominated image is promoted, make sure that all articles contain the Featured Picture version, as opposed to the original.
  7. Notify the nominator or co-nominators by placing {{subst:PromotedFPC|File:file_name.xxx}} on each nominator's talk page. For example: {{subst:PromotedFPC|File:Blue morpho butterfly.jpg}}.
  8. If the image was created by a Wikipedian, place {{subst:UploadedFP|File:file_name.xxx}} on the creator's talk page. For example: {{subst:UploadedFP|File:Blue morpho butterfly.jpg}}.

Then perform the following, regardless of the outcome:

  1. Move the nomination entry to the top of the "Recently closed nominations" section. It will remain there for three days after closing so others can review the nomination. This is done by simply moving the line {{Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Page name}} to the top of the section.
  2. Add the nomination entry to the bottom of the August archive. This is done by simply adding the line {{Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Page name}} from this page to the bottom of the archive.
  3. If the nomination is listed at Template:FPC urgents, remove it.

Delist closing procedure[edit]

Note that delisting an image does not equal deleting it. Delisting from Featured pictures in no way affects the image's status in its article/s.

If consensus is to KEEP featured picture status, and the image is used in at least one article, perform the following:

  1. Check that the image has been in the article for at least one week. Otherwise, suspend the nomination to give it time to stabilize before continuing.
  2. Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FPC/delist/subpage:
    {{FPCresult|Kept|}} --~~~~
    • Do NOT put any other information inside the FPCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
  3. Optionally leave a note on the picture's talk page.

If consensus is to DELIST, or the image is unused (and consensus is not for a replacement that is used), perform the following:

  1. Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FPC/delist/subpage:
    {{FPCresult|Delisted|}} --~~~~
    • Do NOT put any other information inside the FPCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
  2. Replace the {{Featured picture}} tag from the image with {{FormerFeaturedPicture|delist/''Image name''}}.
  3. Remove the image from the appropriate sub-page of Wikipedia:Featured pictures and the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Featured pictures thumbs.

If consensus is to REPLACE (and at least one of the images is used in articles), perform the following:

  1. Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FPC/delist/subpage:
    {{FPCresult|Replaced|}} with File:NEW_IMAGE_FILENAME.JPG --~~~~
    • Do NOT put any other information inside the FPCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
    • Replace NEW_IMAGE_FILENAME.JPG with the name of the replacement file.
  2. Replace the {{Featured picture}} tag from the delisted image with {{FormerFeaturedPicture|delist/''Image name''}}.
  3. Update the replacement picture's tag, adding the tag {{Featured picture|delist/image_name}} (replace image_name with the nomination page name, i.e., the image_name from Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/delist/image_name). Remove any no longer applicable tags from the original, replacement and from any other alternatives. If the alternatives were on Commons and no longer have any tags, be sure to tag the description page with {{missing image}}.
  4. Replace the delisted Featured Picture in all articles with the new replacement Featured Picture version. Do NOT replace the original in non-article space, such as Talk Pages, FPC nominations, archives, etc.
  5. Ensure that the replacement image is included on the appropriate sub-page of Wikipedia:Featured pictures and the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Featured pictures thumbs. Do this by replacing the original image with the new replacement image; do not add the replacement as a new Featured Picture.

Then perform the following, regardless of the outcome:

  1. Move the nomination entry to the top of the "Recently closed nominations" section. It will remain there for three days after closing so others can review the nomination. This is done by simply moving the line {{Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/Image name}} to the top of the section.
  2. Add the nomination entry to the bottom of the archived delist nominations. This is done by simply adding the line {{Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/Image name}} to the bottom of the appropriate section of the archive.
  3. If the nomination is listed at Template:FPC urgents, remove it.

Recently closed nominations[edit]

Nominations in this category have already been closed and are here for the purposes of closure review by FPC contributors. Please do not add any further comments or votes regarding the original nomination. If you wish to discuss any of these closures, please do so at Wikipedia talk:Featured picture candidates. Nominations will stay here for three full days following closure and subsequently be removed.

Burnside's Bridge at the Battle of Antietam[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 Aug 2022 at 01:04:54 (UTC)

Original – The charge across Burnside's Bridge during the Battle of Antietam
Reason
Quite a nice, evocative bit of art. First and best historic image in Burnside's Bridge. Cleanup was kept to fixing edges, obvious dirt, and similar.
Articles in which this image appears
Burnside's Bridge, Battle of Antietam
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/American Civil War
Creator
Edwin Forbes; restored by Adam Cuerden

Promoted File:Edwin Forbes - The Charge across the Burnside Bridge.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 18:32, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Iolanthe[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 11 Aug 2022 at 08:33:21 (UTC)

OriginalH. M. Brock's poster for the 1882 tour of Iolanthe. Printed by David Allen & Sons
Reason
High qualityo
Articles in which this image appears
Iolanthe; Just added to: D'Oyly Carte Opera Company.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Theatre
Creator
H. M. Brock, restored by Adam Cuerden

Promoted File:H. M. Brock - Poster for Iolanthe.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:00, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sebae anemone[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Aug 2022 at 12:35:23 (UTC)

Original – A Sebae anemone (with a tiny red sea clownfish)
Reason
Was seen on Commons FPC two weeks ago, where it was featured unanimously.
Articles in which this image appears
Sebae anemone
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Cnidaria
Creator
Diego Delso

Promoted File:Anémona de mar (Heteractis crispa), parque nacional Ras Muhammad, Egipto, 2022-03-29, DD 43.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:11, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Burning of the USS Missouri[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 9 Aug 2022 at 22:51:48 (UTC)

Original – The USS Missouri was one of the first U.S. Navy steam ships. It travelled across the ocean to Gibraltar... at which point an engineer accidentally broke a container of turpentine, it caught alight, and, well...
Reason
A fine, semi-official illustration which recounts the last hours of the ship. Dramatic, and has been stable in the article for five years.
Articles in which this image appears
USS Missouri (1841), John T. Newton, George Pechell Mends, List of shipwrecks in August 1843
FP category for this image
WP:Featured pictures/History/USA History
Creator
Thomas Goldsworthy Dutton's lithograph of Edward Duncan's artwork based on George Pechell Mends' sketch. Restoration by Adam Cuerden

Promoted File:The Burning of the USS Missouri in Gibraltar.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:02, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kallawaya[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 9 Aug 2022 at 06:41:13 (UTC)

Original – A Kallawaya woman in traditional garb.
Reason
High resolution, visually pleasing, culturally interesting.
Articles in which this image appears
Kallawaya
FP category for this image
Culture and lifestyle
Creator
Alejandra Vaca on behalf of the Plurinational Legislative Assembly of Bolivia
Her name is on the file description page. Bammesk (talk) 15:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't get Sca's objection, then. We honestly have a number of unknown people in the traditional dress section. Is it because those photos are older? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8% of all FPs 16:09, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In journalism generally, it's not acceptable to prominently display a person's photo without a name in the caption/cutline/copy block. (Exceptions only prove the rule.) Most readers aren't going to look up the file description. -- Sca (talk) 19:09, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you suggesting that the name be included in the caption here? If so, that shouldn't be too hard. Something like "Lidia Patty, Kallawaya parliamentarian" could work. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:47, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Promoted File:Lidia Patty Mullisaca (Official Photo, 2018) Alejandra Vaca, Chamber of Deputies of Bolivia.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suspended nominations[edit]

This section is for Featured Picture (or delisting) candidacies whose closure is postponed for additional editing, rendering, or copyright clarification.

Landscape Arch[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 10 Aug 2022 at 12:29:06 (UTC)

Original – Landscape Arch
Reason
A 100 MP version of this image (File:Landscape Arch Utah.jpg) was seen on Commons FPC last week, where it was featured unanimously. Gazumps existing FP File:LandscapeArchPano.jpg.
Articles in which this image appears
Landscape Arch
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
Der Wolf im Wald
  • Support as nominatorMER-C 12:29, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment – Six-year-old pic. Do we know how erosion may have affected this arch since 2016? Also, target article is a 186-word stub. – Sca (talk) 12:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    It doesn't look materially different than the 13 year old FP that it replaces. MER-C 15:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Support – let's delist the existing FP, it has lower quality and is no longer used in any articles. Bammesk (talk) 15:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I'm not a huge fan of switching type of nomination mid-stream. We can delist after, especially as a non-used file is auto-delisted. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8% of all FPs 07:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Adam, agreed, I meant to say "once this nom passes, let's ...", I wasn't clear, sorry. Bammesk (talk) 01:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  1. ^ It's an opera. What did you expect?