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Aurora Noise[edit]

The claim that sunlight striking the particles trapped by the inversion causes a noise is nonsense, this would happen at dawn, not during the night when aurora noise is claimed to be heard. How these particles from 100km to 1000km in altitude make it down to 70m. A low level temperature inversion reflects sound, so noises heard may have a source 20km away. The first reference requires giving your info to view article, second reference is no longer avail on site. 2001:56A:F9C9:1900:44D6:B0C6:2D4E:E34E (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could there be a bit clearer summary for amateurs?[edit]

I went to this article to confirm that auroras are indeed solar wind particles hitting upper atmosphere particles, exciting them and emitting energy in the form of light. However, it's really hard to find this information in the article, it's quite obfuscated. There is various talk of "disturbances in the magnetosphere" and "particles altering trajectories" and "interaction of solar wind and magnetosphere". I mean, I am sure it's all scientifically correct, but isn't the basic fact of particles hitting particles a bit more understandable to the average reader? I guess it requires a brave person to make such an edit. Jackissimus (talk) 09:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aurora[edit]

Is an aurora dangerous? Is an aurora dangerous? 122.161.52.154 (talk) 08:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earliest depiction of Auroras[edit]

"The earliest depiction of the aurora may have been in Cro-Magnon cave paintings of northern Spain dating to 30,000 BC."

Is there a real source for this instead of The Times' "20 surprising facts you might not know about the northern lights" ? I couldn't find anything myself except maybe a scientific ebook stuck behind a paywall. Anyway right now it doesn't seem very trustworthy Absobel (talk) 06:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Absobel. I have access to the ebook. From page 12: Some of the drawings made by the Cro-Magnon people on the walls and ceilings of caves in southern France most probably depict the northern lights. These drawings date back 30,000 years. It is not mentioned whether these are the earliest depictions, however.
I have found the full claim repeated in two other books, 1, 2. Both cite Siscoe 1976, which does not appear to be available online. For now, I think it will be sufficient to cite 1, but it would be great if another editor could check Siscoe's paper to verify. CoronalMassAffection 𝛿 talkcontribs 18:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Earth[edit]

Remove any specifications lf Earth. Aurorae can happen in any atmosphere, even some stars, such as brown dwarves. 199.45.195.249 (talk) 01:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We live on earth, so I believe it is highly relevant to talk about aurora on earth primarily. It is good to mention that they may also occur in other atmospheres, but not enough to warrant removing earth from the article. Luna Wagner (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use one plural[edit]

Currently the article uses both plural forms (aurorae and auroras). I am of the opinion that it would be better to use only one plural. My preference is auroras, but either is fine. Luna Wagner (talk)

Subject-subject agreement[edit]

In the first paragraph, the Northern Lights are equated to the Aurora Borealis. However, aurora itself is singular, as stated earlier in said paragraph. Could someone please change those instances to Aurorae? 1P4S5e (talk) 18:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@1P4S5e As you can see in the Google Ngram Viewer, both aurora borealis and northern lights are more common than aurorae [sic] borealis and northern light [sic], respectively. Mat0329Lo (talk) 18:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mat0329Lo Thus? 1P4S5e (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@1P4S5e It's more important for Wikipedia to adhere to a policy of descriptivism rather than attempt to prescribe to a never-used 'correct" term. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, attempting to reflect the world, WP:NOT attempting to pontificate its own reality. Mat0329Lo (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mat0329Lo Me and you would both agree that which reflects the world to not necessarily correct. If that does not matter, then what is the point of regulatory authorities, such as those of the French Academy or for sport, say badminton? Or Wikipedia? 1P4S5e (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@1P4S5e Not everybody subscribes to the Académie Française, like on the case of oignon 'onion' and ognon. Wikipedia also relies heavily on common usage, like with the Chinese Communist Party (common usage, not sanctioned by the party) and the Communist Party of China (officially-sanctioned translation, not commonly used). Mat0329Lo (talk) 18:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mat0329Lo So are you saying that the Académie Française is irrelevant? 1P4S5e (talk) 18:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@1P4S5e I'm saying that prescriptivism isn't exactly something that is welcomed, in the world overall (Académie Française) or in Wikipedia (Communist Party of China). Mat0329Lo (talk) 21:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@[User:Mat0329] Thus, in your view, if the object cases me and you are used as subjects instead of the subject cases you and I have acquired widespread usage, then should style guides (as the English language has no regulatory authority) recommend me and you instead of you and I? 1P4S5e (talk) 21:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]