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Welcome to the discussion page of WikiProject Canada Discussion du Projet:Canada (Français) General info Main page (Templates) Discussion board (Deletions) Notice board (Alerts - Log) Featured content Vital articles Portal Members (Userboxes) Help & tools All project pages Announcements Article requests Articles to improve Cleanup listing Unreferenced BLPs New articles Popular pages Photographs requests Map requests Assessment log, stats, index Guidelines Manual of Style Manual of Style (Canada-related articles) Templates Project banner Infoboxes Stubs References Project category All WP:CA related pages Collaborators Education program Wikimedia Canada Commons Canada Project Should the article on George Prévost be re-named? I don't know if this requires a formal RFC or not, so I thought I'd bring it here. George Prévost was the Governor-in-Chief of British North America from 1811 onwards, and Lt Governor of Lower Canada. When the article was begun in 2005, there was no accent on the e: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Pr%C3%A9vost&oldid=3093007 On May 17, 2005, the name was edited in the lead line to be "Prévost", by editor A. Lafontaine, who was eventually blocked as a sock-puppet of banned editor DW: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Pr%C3%A9vost&direction=next&oldid=13840197https://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=User:A._Lafontaine On June 5, 2008, the page was moved to "George Prévost", and a redirect created to "George Prevost" by editor Commuood, apparently to comply with the use of "Prévost" in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Pr%C3%A9vost&oldid=217313744 The difficulty is that I can't find any references other than in Wikipedia that refer to Prevost with an é: Dictionary Canadian Biography: http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/prevost_george_5E.html Encyclopedia Canadiana: https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/sir-george-prevost#:~:text=Sir%20George%20Prevost%2C%20soldier%2C%20administrator,siege%20of%20Qu%C3%A9bec%20in%201759 Encyclopedia Britannica: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sir-George-Prevost-1st-Baronet London Gazette, 1805, even though diacriticals are used for other names on the page: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/15874/page/1597 Dictionary of National Biography: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Prevost,_George_(1767-1816) Canada, Federal Heritage Designations: "Prevost, Sir George National Historic Person": https://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/dfhd/page_nhs_eng.aspx?id=14255 It's true that according the Dictionary of Canadian Biography, his father, of Swiss descent, did spell his name "Prévost", but absent any reference to George Prevost spelling his name that way, I think the article should be re-named "George Prevost" and the link to "George Prévost" should be changed to a re-direct. Thoughts? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC) I agree it should be renamed without the accent per WP:COMMONNAME. If the sources spell it George Prevost, then Wikipedia should too. Masterhatch (talk) 00:09, 25 January 2023 (UTC) A quick Google check shows the accent mostly (entirely?) showing up on pages that plagiarise from Wikipedia. I expect whoever changed it to Prévost made an assumption. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 00:31, 25 January 2023 (UTC) Remove the accent. GoodDay (talk) 01:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC) I'd have to agree with removing the accent. This is, of course, a common tension when it comes to French-language names — should we spell the name the "traditional" French way on first principle, or should we check the sources to find out which spelling the person actually used? — but Wikipedia consensus per WP:CANFRENCH has long been the latter rather than the former. It's quite clear in this case that the anglicized (i.e. unaccented) form is the one that is actually used in reference to George, who was a US-born British Army officer rather than a québécois, so the fact that it's technically spelled with an accent in French takes a back seat here. Of course, the accented form should be retained as a redirect, however. Bearcat (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2023 (UTC) Either way, the resulting article should mention the other spelling in its first sentence (eg, "George Prévost (also spelled "George Prevost")", should it be decided to keep the diacritic). FWIW, I see a lot of articles in several languages that use diacritics, and in this case I have no opinion either way. Regards, PKT(alk) 19:04, 25 January 2023 (UTC) I disagree about including the accented spelling in the first sentence of the article because it isn't also spelt that way in the sources. If it was a mix--say 30% of sources use the accent and 70% don't-- I could agree about including the accented spelling in the first line but that's not the case. Simply put, the accented spelling is not an alternate spelling for his name. Masterhatch (talk) 21:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC) I agree with Masterhatch on this point. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:43, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Finally got around to fixing this. Removed the é from the article, except the reference to his father. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 17:17, 4 April 2023 (UTC) Content dispute over at David Eby Hi, there's a content/editing dispute over on Talk:David Eby#Publisher Kawnhr - Misleading Edits and Removal of Factual Material that could benefit from some outside eyes. Thanks! — Kawnhr (talk) 21:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC) This is, I'm afraid, still going on. Can we get some more input? Do I need to escalate this somewhere? — Kawnhr (talk) 16:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC) Chinese Election Interference Some experienced eyes at 2019 Canadian Parliament infiltration plot would be helpful. Perhaps this article needs to be renamed, or merged somewhere. It seems a little scattered at the moment. I would appreciate any suggestions.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 00:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC) This ties in with what I've raised below. --₪ MIESIANIACAL 00:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC) Agreed. It is getting more urgent to have more experienced eyes on this and related articles. We may be getting to the point were articles may need to be semi-protected for a period.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 17:22, 23 March 2023 (UTC) Well, it has now devolved to disruptive editing and vandalism by IP and new editors who are refusing to discuss on talk. Help please.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 20:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC) Request page protection: Wikipedia:Requests for page protection ....PKT(alk) 20:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC) Some eyes on Trudeau cash-for-access scandal might also be helpful. I am about to remove a bunch of non-notable names.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2023 (UTC) high schools or secondary schools? The terms high school and secondary school are both used in reference to Canadian educational institutions and I think some standarization would be useful, especially in terms of categories. For example, we have Category:High schools in Canada, Category:Catholic secondary schools in Canada, and Category:Alumni by secondary school in Canada. FWIW, the article high school redirects to secondary school. Thoughts?--User:Namiba 21:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC) I can attest that both terms are used by Canadians ("secondary" might be more common in official usage, but "high" is more common in everyday speech), and I suspect that any attempt to impose one or the other as a standard across-the-board usage would fail as miserably as "should Canadian date formatting be standardized as MDY or DMY" did. Bearcat (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC) Agreed. Both are in common use. No need to attempt to force standardization on something that isn't. Meters (talk) 18:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC) New article: 2023 Old Montreal fire I've started 2023 Old Montreal fire but I don't have time to give it the attention it deserves right now. If you do, I think it is an important event worthy of coverage in our encyclopedia.--User:Namiba 13:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC) I went ahead and added some details to the page in form of an infobox with image. I got the basics, however someone can expand it once more info emerges on the disaster. PascalHD (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2023 (UTC) past mayor election information Thought I post it here. Where do I find prior election information for mayors? Was hoping to find the raw numbers for Ian Arthur and his mayor wins in Vaughan, Ontario. Thanks in advance. Ebbedlila (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2023 (UTC) 2022 York Region municipal elections; the series links all the way back through 2010. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 02:44, 31 March 2023 (UTC) Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style § Conflicting styles for names of laws (which concerns MOS:CANLAW)  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style § Conflicting styles for names of laws. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC) St. Jean de Brebeuf Catholic High School Could a few of you keep an eye on St. Jean de Brebeuf Catholic High School, as it has been getting some unsourced additions in the past month or so. Mindmatrix 00:58, 5 April 2023 (UTC)  Done Added to my watchlist. PKT(alk) 10:16, 5 April 2023 (UTC) Project-independent quality assessments Quality assessments are used by Wikipedia editors to rate the quality of articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment. No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories. However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:50, 9 April 2023 (UTC) One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement! Hello, Please note that St. Lawrence River, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team Irving Family cluster of articles Irving Family (New Brunswick) just came through AfC and has raised some questions about how best to handle the articles on the Irvings and their companies to avoid accidental content-forking (something that appears to already be happening, from my quick skim of them). More input on the discussion would be very welcome at Talk:Irving Family (New Brunswick). Thanks! -- asilvering (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2023 (UTC) Category:Anglophone Canadian people FYI Category:Anglophone people has been proposed to be merged into Category:Anglophone Canadian people ; see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 9 -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC) RfC input request Opinions and suggestions would be appreciated on a tangentially Canadian topic at Talk:British royal family#RfC on lede. Thanks. ₪ MIESIANIACAL 03:33, 12 April 2023 (UTC) BC United The British Columbia Liberal Party officially changed its name to BC United today. A fair amount of work may need to be needed to update the article and related pages/templates. I presume we would leave leadership contest pages as the name the party had at the time, not change it. Thanks--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 00:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC) Recall and Initiative Act (British Columbia) Following unsuccessful recall attempts in the provincial ridings of Peace River North and Vancouver-Point Grey, it may be time to create a full article on the history of B.C.'s Recall and Initiative Act. At the moment, information on the Act is split among at least four articles: Recall election#Canada Initiative#Canada 1991 British Columbia recall and initiative referendum 2011 British Columbia sales tax referendum I listed a few sources at Talk:1991 British Columbia recall and initiative referendum#Recall and Initiative Act. Mathew5000 (talk) 21:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC) Should this page be part of the wikiproject ? (Caribou herds and populations in Canada) Hi, I was wondering if this Canadian mammalian distribution of Caribou was relevant to this wikiproject ? If so, could it be assessed ? Gimly24 (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC) Another attempt at deletion of Duncan Cameron images see here Moxy- 04:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC) RfC at Charles III Hello--There's an open RfC Talk:Charles III#RfC on opening sentence that welcomes input. ₪ MIESIANIACAL 17:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC) Freedom Party of British Columbia Flagging this article for attention. There is a new party going by this name, and attempts have been made to rewrite this article to that effect. It could benefit from some more page watchers to keep an eye on COI and to discuss possible article splitting. -- asilvering (talk) 23:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC) "Native name" in infobox A discussion at Template talk:Infobox settlement#Native name may be of interest to editors. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:31, 29 April 2023 (UTC) Unreferenced BLPs There are currently 169 unreferenced BLPs of people from Canada. It's important that all content in BLP articles are cited to reliable sources, and any help in adding citations is appreciated. A full list of unreferenced BLPs from Canada can be found here. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 17:25, 1 May 2023 (UTC) I'm tackling a bunch, mainly politicians, writers, musicians and film people whose names I recognized on sight. It's worth noting that a lot of the articles in the overall batch are sports figures, most commonly ice hockey but also some in other sports, so people who are more experienced in writing sports-related articles might be better placed to tackle those than I am. Bearcat (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC) I've additionally also caught at least two cases where the article actually did have references, so the "BLP unreferenced" tag merely needed to be changed to "BLP refimprove". Bearcat (talk) 18:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC) It's a shitshow is what it is. There are a bunch of false positives, and there are also hundreds if not thousands that are still untagged. And yes, I'm gathering that the sports side of Wikipedia has a questionable track record with sourcing and mass creation of unsourced articles where even the established editors overlook sitewide norms. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC) Hello - I agree with Bearcat, that total has to be understated by a lot. What I don't see is what tags combine to add an article to the list. Can somebody please advise, so that can add those tags where necessary? Thx, PKT(alk) 21:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC) PKT Adding {{BLP unreferenced}} adds it to Category:All unreferenced BLPs, and then PetScan looks at the categories to update the list. I've set up a bunch of topical lists at WP:Unreferenced BLP rescue#Scope that update whenever the BLP unreferenced tag is added. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC) Vancouver municipal elections The pages for Vancouver's municipal elections (2022, 2018, 2014, etc) are awkward, because the election infobox combines the results of the mayoral race with the council race: the candidates, vote total and percentages all match the mayor's election, but then there's also seat counts reflecting the party's seats on council. True, the mayor is an ex officio member of city council, but I think this is just confusing. The 2022 page actually goes on to include tables that lay out the council standings, which makes you wonder why the mayor results is doing double-duty to begin with, and the 2014 page is even weirder: Adriane Carr, as de facto leader of the Greens, shows up in the infobox even though she didn't run for mayor, on the basis that her party has council seats. It's a mess. Obviously this should be untangled, but there's a few ways to do it. One is to make the infoboxes explicitly about the mayoral election specifically: removing the seat counts, removing the notices about how many seats are up on the council, school board and park board. Or, since these pages are containing the results of all the municipal elections in Vancouver, we could switch to a layout like on the 2022 page — putting the mayor race in a table too. Or, maybe it's time to have separate pages for mayor and the rest of the municipal elections, a la Toronto (2022 mayor, 2022 municipal). What does everyone else think? — Kawnhr (talk) 20:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC) One of the key problems is that historically, Wikipedians have never put nearly as much effort into adding very much substance to Vancouver municipal election articles beyond tabling the election results themselves. The main reason that Toronto started spinning off separate sets of "mayoral" and "city council" election articles was that merged Toronto municipal election articles were starting to get too long and needed that for size control — but I'm hard pressed to identify any of the Vancouver municipal election articles as being "too long" at all. For instance, of the three articles you listed, 2022 is the only one that gives the mayoral election anything more than two lines of text and a results table, and even then it still doesn't give the mayoral election enough space that splitting would become the obvious solution to a size issue. So the basis for splitting off separate mayoral election articles would be if people were prepared to start putting a lot more work into making Vancouver municipal election articles longer and more substantial than they are — if that isn't the case, then establishing a consensus standard for what should or shouldn't be covered in the infobox, and applying it across the board, would have to be the preferred solution. Bearcat (talk) 13:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC) I see, that makes sense. Maybe one day we'll do something more for the mayoral races, but at least for me, today is not that day. So with that in mind, I saw that the 2023 Paraguayan general election uses an infobox similar set-up to the 2022 and 2018 pages but with greater care at keeping everything separate. Would anybody object if I were to reformat Vancouver's pages to follow this? — Kawnhr (talk) 00:38, 8 May 2023 (UTC) Ontario Legislature videos I would really appreciate anyone who would like to help transfer videos from the OntarioLegislature YouTube channel over to Wikimedia Commons, they are suitable and licensed under Creative Commons. I have got a start on it, but there are years worth of videos and I cannot possibly do it all by myself. I have the Categories ready to go, can find it here on the Commons. I have been using the video2commons tool to help speed things up, which I also recommend using. If possible try to add the names of the politicians who speak in the videos. I believe some have the names in descriptions and others don't. Any questions/confused, feel free to ask here. Thanks PascalHD (talk) 00:58, 4 May 2023 (UTC) Question. Is there actually value to doing this rather than just adding an external link in the rare instance that we need to reference one? It seems like a lot of work, and a lot of storage, for little gain. What's the value proposition here? Canterbury Tail talk 01:13, 4 May 2023 (UTC) Additionally what does the YouTube T&Cs say about downloading videos for non-personal purposes. I know the actual video licenses are compatible, but is using YouTube to download actually within their T&Cs? It's been a while but last I checked you could only download from YouTube for personal use the non-copyrighted stuff. Canterbury Tail talk 01:35, 4 May 2023 (UTC) Such files related to Government activities which contain political figures are certainly within the scope of the Commons and can serve a useful purpose (Example: [1]. Having a few videos of an MPP speaking is of value. I probably won't upload every single video, it's not worth my time - & your points are valid. Also, YouTube content is allowed at the Commons per COM:YOUTUBE. PascalHD (talk) 02:32, 4 May 2023 (UTC) Where is the Talk page for this template? I'd like to comment on this template: {{SCCOpinionKey}} However, I don't know where its Talk page is located? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Template_talk:SCCOpinionKey. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Thanks. Someday I may understand wiki code better. So any time a template is inside double curly braces {, if I change it to square brackets and put template_talk in front of the name, it will take me to the template page? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Typically yes, or if you put tl| before the name as I did above you can access the page with the normal talk, history etc links. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC) Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC) Template for Reasons of the Supreme Court - comments requested Right, thanks to @Nikkimaria:, I've been able to put my comments on the Talk page for the template for the reasons of the SCC, at Template_talk:SCCOpinionKey. I would invite comments from anyone who is interested. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC) Slow edit warring Wanted to ask for some input on a situation. Our article on musician and actor Maxwell McCabe-Lokos has been repeatedly edited by an WP:SPA who persistently removes the statement that he was known by the stage name "Age of Danger" when he was in the band The Deadly Snakes, with the edit summary that he's "removing incorrect information". But it isn't incorrect, it's properly sourced and can be reinforced by literally dozens of other sources calling him "Age of Danger" in that era, and I can't even conceive of any reason why it would be remotely controversial to anybody since there's nothing negative or BLP-sensitive about a simple acknowledgement of a musician's stage name. For the moment, I've had to place the page under full protection, but obviously this isn't ideal, and I should lift it as soon as feasibly possible — but since this has happened repeatedly over the course of two years, and the editor in question has already passed autoconfirmed status and wouldn't be stopped by lower levels of protection, I'm not sure how else to make it stop. Does anybody else have any ideas? Bearcat (talk) 04:43, 10 May 2023 (UTC) Hi Bearcat - You should use the vandalism templates (personally, I'd start this guy at level 2, but it's up to your judgement) and go to the higher levels the next time(s) he does what he does. Swearing at him in the edit summaries does nothing, as you've seen. PKT(alk) 12:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC) I think indefinite full protection was overkill, especially as you are Involved admins|involved in that article. I blocked Douglas Cavendish Fairbanks from that page and removed the protection. If they use socks to edit then let me, or another admin, know and I'll protect it. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:15, 10 May 2023 (UTC) By the way they are not extended confirmed so you could have used extended confirmed protection. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:19, 10 May 2023 (UTC) For an extra set of eyes, I have added the page to my watchlist.   Aloha27  talk  18:14, 10 May 2023 (UTC) Deprecated language in honours lists There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals#Deprecated language in citations for UK honours about whether citations should be updated to today's language, eg changing the 1980 "For service to the disabled." to "For service to disabled people." Members of this Wikiproject may have a view: please comment there. PamD 07:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC) Mass renames of Hamilton Ontario elections by User:JamesLucas-A Someone had renamed quite a bunch of pages of election pages related to Hamilton Ontario. Idk if this is really necessary or best use of adding a comma, but I thought I put it here for others to look at because there were a lot of pages renamed. I dont know if it is appropriate. Ebbedlila (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC) anyone can tell me if these moves are appropriate? Ebbedlila (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2023 (UTC) They were moved back. Apparently this has come up before. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC) Ebbedlila—as noted in the edit summaries, the comma is required by grammar as outlined at MOS:GEOCOMMA. With that said, no one really likes having article titles chock full of commas—myself included. Whenever possible I favor other approaches. One recent example I rather like is my move of 1835 New Brunswick, New Jersey tornado to 1835 Middlesex County tornado, which is shorter and more accurate in addtion to removing the MOS:GEOCOMMA violation. I’ve been mulling the Hamilton election articles for something like seven years, and I’ve never come up with something better than the double-comma. Dropping ‘Ontario’ would be simplest, but Hamilton is not sufficiently well known for that to be appropriate. Reordering the titles (e.g., 2010 municipal election in Hamilton, Ontario) would be my personal preference, but that would require a larger discussion since it bucks the 2018 consensus and arguably introduces a tiny but non-zero amount of ambiguity. If you think that line is worth perusing, though, I’d certainly be game for such a conversation. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 02:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC) looking at the history of multiple of the pages, you got reverted multiple times for renaming the pages, by citing MOS:Comma. Does the MOS apply to titles of pages? Ebbedlila (talk) 14:43, 17 May 2023 (UTC) Ebbedlila—yes, MOS:GEOCOMMA applies to titles as a consequence of WP:CRITERIA. As for reverts…I’ve made well over 20,000 edits including a significant number of moves enforcing MOS:DATECOMMA and MOS:GEOCOMMA, so of course some get reverted. Most reverts are done in passing by editors who didn’t bother consult the MOS links and never respond, but a handful have lead to constructive conversations and alternate solutions such as the one I floated above. In the case of these particular articles, there’s actually a mix of two things going on. Some of the pages were indeed moved back when an anonymous editor improperly requested the action as a non-controversial technical move, but some of the pages (more, I think) were moved as part of an unrelated (and much needed) effort to apply consistent naming across the set of related articles, and the commas were lost incidentally. As I said last time, there are multiple ways to avoid MOS:GEOCOMMA violations, and while I don’t see any as being viable for this set of articles without greater discussion, I remain open to to such a course. On that note, I’m not a regular at this notice board, so if you would kindly use {{re}} or {{u}} to alert me to any future replies, that would be helpful. Cheers. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 15:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC) Discussion started at Category: Canadian King's Counsel It's here, in case anyone is interested. Category talk:Canadian King's Counsel. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 23:12, 13 May 2023 (UTC) Category:Former electoral districts of Northwest Territories Last month Rowing007 moved Mackenzie River (N.W.T. electoral district) to Mackenzie River (Northwest Territories electoral district) as seen here. Saying "full name per style on other articles". This is true of Category:Former provincial electoral districts of New Brunswick, Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Nova Scotia, Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Prince Edward Island, and Category:Former provincial electoral districts of British Columbia. However, in Category:Former electoral districts of Northwest Territories they all, where necessary, use N.W.T. So my question is should theses be moved to another name or remain where they are? This is not an official move request but an attempt to see what others think. Some possibilities are NWT, NT, Northwest Territories, and, depending on the date, North-West Territories and Northwest Territories. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 13:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC) I'd use the full name, for consistency with other provinces & territories, and also to disambiguate Northwest Territories from North-West Territories, Northwest Territory, and North-Western Territory, all of which may use the initialism N.W.T. and may have had electoral districts. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Agreed with Ivanvector, it's better to spell the names out than to just use initials.... PKT(alk) 15:38, 14 May 2023 (UTC) Also, if initials are used, it would need to be NWT and definitely not N.W.T. per MOS:ABBR: we don't use periods in initialisms and acronyms. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC) My vote is for the full (period-appropriate) name to be used. Rowing007 (talk) 16:21, 14 May 2023 (UTC) If our goal is to distinguish it from the federal riding of the same name, shouldn't it be Mackenzie River (territorial electoral district)? —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 15:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC) Does the Liberal Party of Canada endorse CANZUK as party policy? Claims at [2] and in related article at [3]. Anyone interested and/or knowledgeable about this is welcome to join the discussion at Talk:CANZUK#Liberal Party of Canada endorses CANZUK free movement. Meters (talk) 21:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC) I don't think the reference is a clear endorsement, but I'll wait until other editors give their opinions before removing the statement......PKT(alk) 22:07, 16 May 2023 (UTC) DYKs FYI, tomorrow (20 May) is the first day to make Did You Know nominations to appear on the Main Page for Canada Day 2023. If you have an interesting article you can create/expand or GA promote in the next five weeks, consider nominating it. – Reidgreg (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC) Main Deli Steak House Should Main Deli Steak House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) have the name of this restaurant as it appears on the sign in front of the restaurant in the article? (which also happens to be the official name) It's been deleted as being a contravention to "common name" (what that means I don't know, since WP:COMMONNAME is an article page name policy and not an article content policy) -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 05:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC) Statue of Egerton Ryerson (again...) Can editors take a look at recent changes to Statue of Egerton Ryerson, please? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC) I have reverted the IP User edits as uncited and have left a message on the IP talk page. I've added the Statue page to my watchlist. Regards,   Aloha27  talk  15:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC) There is no doubt in my mind that the new IP User is a sock of indeffed User Friendsofegertonryerson.   Aloha27  talk  15:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC) National Post An IP has been editwarring at National Post over the paper's ownership, trying to discount or completely bury the paper's status as a Postmedia Network publication on the grounds that Postmedia's partial (but not total) ownership stake by an American hedge fund is somehow the most salient fact about the ownership of the NP. However, as I've already been involved in reverting at least once, and am not interested in letting this consume my day, I wanted to ask for some further assistance. Bearcat (talk) 12:59, 24 May 2023 (UTC) I'll put it on my watchlist. — Kawnhr (talk) 13:41, 24 May 2023 (UTC) IP User is at 4rr by my count. 3rr notice has been placed on that user talk page.   Aloha27  talk  14:06, 24 May 2023 (UTC) For clarity, the same user is edit warring at Postmedia Network, where I've already reverted twice and also provided proof contradicting the user's claims. Mindmatrix 16:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)