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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify to Draft:Muhammad Ali Iskandarov. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 16:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Ali Iskandarov[edit]

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Subject lacks notability and significant coverage in reliable sources. Meatsgains(talk) 01:11, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: There are sources. The films starring the actor are not bad, and although they are not world-class, they are among the most well-known films in Uzbekistan. As the author of this article, I recommend not deleting the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammad Ali Iskandariy (talk • contribs) 10:51, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:Muhammad Ali Iskandariy, you are not the author of this article, according to the page history that is User:Anvar Mirhodiyev. Is this another account that you are using? Can you please clarify this? Also can you please clarify if you are the subject of this article? Spokoyni (talk) 16:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Dear Spokoyni It's not as complicated as you put it on this page. Firstly, I have nothing to do with Muhammad Ali Iskandarov, but as for Anvar Mirhodiyev (talk · contribs) we are classmates, and I asked him for help, as it was difficult for me to understand Of English language. What's wrong with helping each other?

Also see Ali Iskandariy, which is an article about the same person. Johnj1995 (talk) 01:13, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BBC reporters interview him, which means that he matters. [[1]]

  • - “Subject lacks notability and significant coverage in reliable sources.“ - He is a very popular director in his country, I think the deletion of this page is not justified. There are many sources mentioning his work. [[2]], [[3]], [[4]], [[5]], [[6]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammad Ali Iskandariy (talk • contribs) 11:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added sources to the article. Popular enough in his country, he played a major role in several films. His directorial work in the film "I am not a terrorist" is mentioned in the world media. You need to leave. (UzUmUz (talk) 12:51, 3 November 2021 (UTC))[reply]
  • “Also see Ali Iskandariy, which is an article about the same person.” - Director Muhammad Ali Iskandarov under the pseudonym Ali Iskandari is known as a pop singer in Uzbekistan. Dear admins, I am ready to correct this article, with your permission. (Muhammad Ali Iskandariy (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2021 (UTC))[reply]
  • Delete Lots of citations (WP:REFBOMB), but none of them are reliable, independent, and have substantial coverage. Sockpuppetry and repeated vandalism of this AFD discussion isn't helping the case either. - MrOllie (talk) 14:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The BBC did not write an article about Muhammad Ali Iskandarov, who was known to the BBC about himself and his film. BBC article about Muhammad Ali Iskandarov[7] Muhammad Ali Iskandarov An article about the movie [8] Muhammad Ali Iskandarov is a well-known director in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by **Amirbek77 (talk • contribs) 15:34, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    That is an interview. To establish notability sources must be independent of the subject, and interviews are not. MrOllie (talk) 16:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Interview with Muhammad Ali Iskandarov[9] Daryo uz is one of the most influential sites in Uzbekistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirbek77 (talk • contribs)
  • The information about Muhammad Ali Iskandarov is divided into two because he was active under the pseudonym Ali Iskandari for some time [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirbek77 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi everyone do you have any suggestions on how to improve Wikipedia through video tutorials? Please help me. I wrote Muhammad Ali Iskandarov's wikipedia for 2 weeks with difficulty. I can save whatever I do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirbek77 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For the moment, this tends to a "delete" decision, but given that those arguing for "keep" are newbies (even though it isn't completely clear how many there are of them), I'm giving this another week to come up with significant coverage.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:21, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hello! Randykitty I want to express my gratitude to you for the fact that you treat our tips with respect. I want to say for the protection of this article. In Uzbekistan, there are no active participants in the space of the English Wikipedia, and this can be due to the fact that there is very little information about Uzbek artists and film photography, and opinions from wholesale participants. As for the filmmaker Muhammad Ali Iskandarov, he is very popular in his country. Especially when it hit the big screens in 2021, I’m not a terrorist has generated a lot of resonance as it depicts the fate of people in the Syrian war. It is important to clarify the fact that the new generation of Uzbekistan wants to read articles in English, since, for them, it is the second most important language after the native language. Yes, the Uzbek film motogrofist is not the level of Hollywood, but they are in demand and are more important than I am in Central Asian countries. I ask you very much to take this fact into account when making a decision. Thank you for your understanding, best regards. (UzUmUz (talk) 21:33, 14 November 2021 (UTC))[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete The sources in this discussion and currently on the page mention Iskandarov's work, but do not pass WP:SIGCOV for Iskandarov himself. (The only source I was unable to translate was this one, but it appears to be about a film.) Although the BBC interview is from a reliable source, that alone is not enough to pass WP:SIGCOV, and I could not find any additional sources to meet the guideline. Heartmusic678 (talk) 15:24, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • The film directed by Muhammad Ali Iskandarov will be shown in the framework of the Minsk International Festival "Listopad" and at a press conference it was announced about his new film "Kazbek"[1] [2] [3] (UzUmUz (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2021 (UTC))[reply]

References

  1. ^ "«Илхак», «Мерос», «Казбек»… Самой представительной на «Лiстападе» оказалась делегация из Узбекистана". minsknews.by. Retrieved 2021-11-21.
  2. ^ https://www.uzdaily.uz/ru/post/65406
  3. ^ https://minsknews.by/predstavyat-pochti-100-kartin-v-belarusi-s-20-po-26-noyabrya-projdet-mezhdunarodnyj-kinofestival-listapad/amp/%7Ctitle=В рамках Минского международного кинофестиваля «Листопад» в не конкурсной программе будет показан фильм «Я не террорист»
  • Move to draft for a six-month incubation period for the development of better sources. BD2412 T 06:49, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with BD2412—better to draftify if we have a bunch of users willing to work on the article's inclusion. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:31, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify. Given the difficulty of finding sources (foreign language, non-Latin script, paucity of independent newspapers in the country) I suspect we are not doing the subject justice. There is every sign that he is well known in his own country. Holding in draft for a while will give a chance for print sources to be found in Uzbek. SpinningSpark 15:05, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The two best sources in the article are [15] and [16]. This has been rather obscured by a large number of passing mentions. I recommend that the authors read WP:GOLDENRULE to understand what kind of sources they need to find to improve the case for notability. SpinningSpark 15:15, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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