Talk:Tomorrowland (film)

The Eiffel Tower Apartment

The (locked) text currently reads: "They enter a room with mannequins of Gustave Eiffel, Jules Verne, Nikola Tesla, and Thomas Edison." This is not good: the room in question actually exists in the Eiffel Tower, mannequins and all. Perhaps better text would be: "They enter the Eiffel Tower Apartment, with mannequins of Gustave Eiffel, Jules Verne, Nikola Tesla, and Thomas Edison." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.9.140 (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Encyclopaedic Relevance?

This is an upcoming commercial film entity that's not even been released yet... Doesn't anyone else see this as a way to get it into the search engine rankings? Does it even belong on Wikipedia at all? Smidoid (talk) 19:05, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

@Smidoid: It is acceptable to have articles about upcoming products as long as we adhere to WP:NPOV. This means we want to avoid promotional language and to neutrally report information about the film in production. For a couple of other examples, see Walking with Dinosaurs (film) and Interstellar (film). Erik (talk | contribs) 19:14, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

@Erik: Thanks for that clarification. Smidoid (talk) 00:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Of course it's a promotional 'article'. That is one of Wikipedia's main functions: publicity and promotion. Seriously, an amateur bunch of unqualified, often semi-literate! amateur, self-appointed 'editors' selecting and overseeing articles is not the basis for a credible encyclopaedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.64.4 (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2015

Hi Trailer 2 of the Movie Tomorrowland has been released on 11 March 2015

If possible mention this on page

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:46, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Add marketing website "http://www.takemetotomorrowland.com/" to External Links section after the Official Website and before the IMDB listing

 Not done as WP:ELMINOFFICIAL - we are not here to promote marketing websites - Arjayay (talk) 14:00, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2015

Official Website: Takemetotomorrowland.com Silencesilence127 (talk) 02:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: That does not appear to be their official website. Disney labels [1] as their official website. Stickee (talk) 04:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

based on the actual Tomorrowland?

Is this film actually based on the real-life Tomorrowland areas of the Disneyland parks? I mean, the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise is based on the Disneyland ride of the same name... Visokor (talk) 18:06, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Visokor, its based more on Walt Disney's original plans for Epcot. You can read more about it here.

--AM (Talk to me!) 21:14, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

'green-lit'?

'The project was green-lit'

What the **** is such a piece of US-ian, newspeak slang doing in an encyclopaedia?

Did the advertisement writer mean 'approved'? Is the English language not part of his / her education? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.118.0.2 (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Um, what? This isn't an American term. It's a Hollywood term, and is also widely used in the movie industry outside of the U.S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.9.140 (talk) 02:27, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Why is this page locked?

I see no reason for this page to be locked. Does Wikipedia have some sort of agreement with movie studios to suppress addition of plot and synopsis to an article once a movie has been released publicly for a specific period?2604:2000:6A69:F900:222:41FF:FE21:C04F (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Probably because of two things. First it's a box office bomb. Second paid editing. Ronhjones, an admin decided in January 2015 that half a dozen daft edits constituted an indefinite block on this page for IPs (ie none of the cabal). Coincidence or something more invidious? When the admin caste on this site remains beyond reproach, the perfect conditions for unaccountable corruption will persist. Any Disney exec worth their salt will know the first hit on Google for this box office bomb will be Wikipedia. Control content, control the message. This evil is all spelled out on Wikipediocracy. As for the content of this article (on the encyclopedia that "anyone can edit"), take it with a big pinch of salt.86.182.42.242 (talk) 20:18, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Plot

I have not seen the movie but I can already tell that the plot, here, is needlessly wordy and unnecessarily long. Not each scene needs discussion. Once I see Tomorrowland, I will return with my editors hat and do some whittling. Many readers will come here for info. What we have is embarrassing. Excessive detail to the max and much of the story is omitted. It doesn't need to be longer; it needs to be better! . Buster Seven Talk 00:22, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• Good news. Other editors have started the "whittling" process. It is getting better. . Buster Seven Talk 06:19, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

It is still very difficult to read. I have read it a couple of times and I am still not clear about the plot.97.93.63.100 (talk) 23:10, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

• •  Done . Buster Seven Talk 00:36, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2015

This part of the text should be edited: "Nix is then revealed to be the one who has been keeping the device on because he had been attempting to plant the knowledge of the impending destruction in the minds of the people of Earth to try and get them to realize that they can stop it. However, nobody has actually tried to do anything about it."

Instead, it should read, "Nix is then revealed to be the one who has been keeping the device on because he had been attempting to plant the knowledge of the impending destruction in the minds of the people of Earth to try and get them to realize that they can change it. However, this knowledge only served to make people give up hope and stop trying." Kimsanity (talk) 16:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Already done by Jedi94. Altamel (talk) 00:06, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Please change "performed moderately" to "performed below expectation"

"Tomorrowland," however, opened on the low end of expectations, with an estimated $32.2 million through Sunday and a likely $40.7 million for the four-day holiday... in short this was below expectation.

Source: http://news.moviefone.com/2015/05/25/disney-tomorrowland-box-office/

Yes4me (talk) 21:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done ~ Jedi94 (Want to tell me something?) 23:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Prequel story

There is a prequel novel Before Tomorrowland. Perhaps this information should be added. --134.109.240.1 (talk) 09:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add this to the article:

Got link? 2605:E000:AA1F:E400:89C5:FD68:FD9F:2999 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:23, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Further reading

• Jeff Jensen, Damon Lindelof, Brad Bird, Jonathan Case: Before Tomorrowland. Disney Press, ISBN 978-1484704219.

--134.109.240.48 (talk) 11:29, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Please spell "apocalypse" correctly.

It is misspelled in several places, completely removing credibility from the whole article.

References

Doomsday countdown

The prominently featured Doomsday countdown in the film is displayed by Nixie tubes. At least a wiki link or even an image would be appropriate. --134.109.240.50 (talk) 10:10, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2015

Please change "The narration then shifts to the present, where Casey Newton, who sneaks into a decommissioned NASA launch pad in Cape Canaveral, where her father Eddie is an engineer" to "The narration then shifts to the present, where Casey Newton sneaks into a decommissioned NASA launch pad in Cape Canaveral, where her father Eddie is an engineer" for grammar. Jakeblozan (talk) 02:41, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

 Done 97198 (talk) 05:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Steampunk influence

I'm not English so sorry for my mistakes. I think it would be relevant to add some crucial influences as Steamboy for this movie. The beginning is pretty much the same (Jet pack, World's fair) but set in a different time. See : https://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Steamboy Moreover the fact they've taken Tesla, Eiffel, Edison and Jules Verne as founders is typical for the time when steampunk stories take place. See : "Steampunk is a subgenre of science fiction and sometimes fantasy that incorporates technology and aesthetic designs inspired by 19th-century industrial steam-powered machinery." on https://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Steampunk Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diatomee (talk • contribs) 21:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Ursula

Can a reference be added, please, to reflect that if the sci fi store man, Hugo, was named after science fiction publisher, Hugo Gernsback, then Ursula was probably named after the science fiction author, Ursula Le Guin?

I doubt that such a reference exists - but if it does you could add it yourself. --Fixuture (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't know about the above commenter, but I know I can't add a reference, because the page is protected. Both the Hugo as well as the (not yet added to the page) Ursula namesake claims are listed in the trivia section on imdb, if that counts. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1964418/trivia Stannius (talk) 02:28, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

IMDB trivia sections are generally not sourced, so they are generally unacceptable as a source. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 04:35, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tomorrowland (film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 18:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments later in the week. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 18:40, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Basic stuff and comments

The Optimist

• This section looks like it could be moved under production as a subsection after filming.

Would a rename to Other media work? Rusted AutoParts 14:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 14:26, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

 Already done Chompy Ace 15:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Soundtrack

• Move this section under production.

 Done Rusted AutoParts 14:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• The BBFC citation isn't working for me.

 Fixed new link Chompy Ace 14:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The Box Office Mojo reference should link to the film's title summary, not its domestic release.

 Done, fixed using {{cite BOM}} Chompy Ace 22:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Link the citation from The New York Times as either "url-access=limited" or "url-access=subscription". Additionally, I couldn't find any mentions of a genre in the archive, so I'm wondering what exactly is the purpose of the reference and if it can be replaced with something else.

 Done, NYT reference removed, replaced with primary genre Chompy Ace 15:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• No need for references in the lead about writers/actors/release date.

 Done Chompy Ace 15:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The "press kit" reference after "five countries" isn't working for me.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 15:06, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• This reference and this reference don't mention anything about the "musical score".

 Done removed Chompy Ace 15:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Remove the comma after "box office bomb".

 Done Chompy Ace 14:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Mark all citations from The New York Times as either "url-access=limited" or "url-access=subscription".

 Done Chompy Ace 22:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• This reference says the marketing cost was $280 million, not $330 million.

 Already done by User:Rusted AutoParts. Chompy Ace 14:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "$120–140 million" → "$120–150 million" per this reference.

 Already done by User:Rusted AutoParts. Chompy Ace 14:01, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Plot and cast

• The entire plot section is 736 words, failing WP:FILMPLOT.

Shaved to 689.  Done Rusted AutoParts 14:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• In the cast section, add a reference that says Hugo was one of the "Fathers of Science Fiction" and another about the "Hugo Awards".

 Done removed Chompy Ace 14:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Shouldn't George Clooney be credited before Britt Robertson?

 Already done by User:Rusted AutoParts. Chompy Ace 14:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

This wasn't changed... Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 02:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done that is based on the credits order Chompy Ace 02:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Production

Development

• In the quote box, remove the words "Bird said."

 Done, replaced with "[...]" Chompy Ace 14:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Link George Clooney, Hugh Laurie, and Britt Robertson.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:26, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Mark the reference after "developmental unit" as "url-access=limited".

 Done Chompy Ace 14:28, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The citations after "unidentified metal object" and "many of its contents" aren't working; mark them as dead.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Filming

• Distribute the first three references about filming.

 Done Chompy Ace 01:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• This reference says filming began August 8.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 14:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Mark the reference after "Valencia" as being in Spanish, and add a "trans-title=" parameter.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Music

• Move the only reference in this section to the end of the sentence it's in.

 Done Chompy Ace 15:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Release

• "in theaters and IMAX. Tomorrowland was the first film" → "in theaters and IMAX, and was the first film"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Home media

• The "behind-the-scenes featurettes" and "the Plus-Ultra animated short film" aren't mentioned in this reference.

 Done removed Chompy Ace 14:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Combine both paragraphs into one.

 Done Chompy Ace 15:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Other media

• This reference says that "The Optimist" was launched on July 3, 2013.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 14:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• A reference is needed for the claim that "The Optimist" ended on August 11, 2013.

 Done added reference Chompy Ace 02:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• I think it's better if this section becomes a subsection under release.

 Done Chompy Ace 15:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Reception

Box office

• "$115.7 million" → "$115.6 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 14:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "$209.2 million" → "$209 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 14:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "between $120 and $140 million" → "between $120 and $150 million"

 Done Chompy Ace 14:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• This reference doesn't say anything about the film costing "$330 million to produce and market". Additionally, this reference says the marketing cost was actually $280 million.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The references after "second week)" and "701 theaters" aren't working for me. Probably just an incorrect link input in the url parameter.

 Fixed Chompy Ace 15:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The second reference after "$30.8 million", from Box Office Mojo", isn't really needed as it's covered in the first citation.

 Done removed Chompy Ace 21:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The first references after "$30.8 million" and "$37.8 million in 2010" link to the same page.

 Already done per consistency of film-related articles Chompy Ace 22:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Distribute the four references after "Japan ($2.1 million)."

 Already done per consistency of film-related articles Chompy Ace 02:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• No mention of "$9.7 million on its opening day" in this reference, or "$725,000 during its early Thursday night showings" in this one.

 Done removed Chompy Ace 13:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Critical response

• "based on 294 reviews" → "based on 297 reviews"

 Done Chompy Ace 14:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• There should only be one reference to Rotten Tomatoes, not two.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Everything else looks good.

 Already done Chompy Ace 14:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Accolades

• References are needed for each award ceremony/group.

 Done, with verdicts Chompy Ace 22:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Accolades sections look better with reference columns, so I suggest adding one.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Other stuff

Images

• Improve the rationale of the film's poster (this non-free use rationale is recommended).

 Done Chompy Ace 21:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "a background in Tomorrowland" → "a background in the film."

 Done Chompy Ace 14:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

References

• The following websites should be italicized:

• Las Provincias
• Vulture
• USA Today

 Done Chompy Ace 22:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• The following publishers should not be italicized:

• British Board of Film Classification
• Box Office Mojo
• Collider
• NBC News
• Rotten Tomatoes
• Metacritic
• Teen Choice Awards

 Done Chompy Ace 22:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Change all uses of Deadline to Deadline Hollywood.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Change all uses of The Wrap and Thewrap.com to TheWrap.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Change all uses of Slashfilm.com and Slashfilm to /Film.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Try linking all websites/publishers used in citations.

 Done Chompy Ace 02:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Link D23.com to D23 (Disney)

 Done Chompy Ace 23:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Twitter.com" → "Twitter"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Slate Magazine" → "Slate" (also change the use of "Slate Magazine" in #Critical response).

 Done Chompy Ace 22:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Businesses Insider" → "Business Insider"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "CINEMABLEND" → "Cinemablend"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Link de Volkskrant

 Done Chompy Ace 22:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Wired.com" → "Wired" or "Wired.com"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Philly.com" → "The Philadelphia Inquirer" or "Philly.com"

 Done Chompy Ace 23:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Usatoday.com" → "USA Today"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:06, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Link Entropy to Entropy.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Additionally, the Entropy reference, the Teen Choice Awards reference, and the British Board of Film Classification citation should not be in ALL CAPS.

 Done Chompy Ace 22:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• "Variety.com" → "Variety"

 Done Chompy Ace 22:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

External links

• Remove the Rotten Tomatoes external link per WP:ELRC.

 Done Chompy Ace 14:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Overview

GAN table

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Notes

• @Rusted AutoParts: I have added my first set of suggestions for images, the infobox, lead, plot, and cast sections. Additionally, I will be moving into production and release later in the day. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 14:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Rusted AutoParts: I have added most of my main notes, but I will tackle the references shortly. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 16:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Rusted AutoParts: UPDATE: I just finished adding all of my notes. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 18:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Damn, Chompy moves fast lol. @Chompy Ace: thanks for the assistance, at my rate this would’ve probably been finished a week from now. Rusted AutoParts 14:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)