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Please participate in a Request for Comments at Talk:Maske:_Thaery#RFC_on_Plot_SummaryMaske: Thaery is a 1976 novel by Jack Vance.  The question in the RFC is which version of the plot summary should be used.

Robert McClenon (talk) 19:58, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Anyone here has access to old Locus volumes?[edit]

I (and presumably others) sometimes need them for, well, article writing (the book review part, for example). Ex. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#"Songs_of_Muad'Dib_review"s_in_Locus_and_Voice_of_Youth_Advocates. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

1997 to 2009 is archived here. I don't know of an older archive. I have a subscription and can check for more recent stuff on their website. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:11, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And having never really looked at those old archive pages I now see they're not issue archives, though they might be useful. Still, my offer to search anything accessible via a subscription stands. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:14, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Mike Christie That's appreciated. Which years does your subscription cover? (The particular article I'd like for creation of the Mad'Dib songs page would be from May 1992...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:13, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My subscription goes back to the mid-1980s, but I can only get access to whatever issues have been digitized, and they don't go anything like that far back, I'm afraid. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:39, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No paper copies in the attic, I assume? :> Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:17, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not any more! I once had most issues from the 1980s through the early 2000s but they're all gone. Recycled, sadly; I sold most of my collection on eBay but as I recall these were not cost effective to sell. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I wish WMF had a physical library to store this, digitize this, and compensate people in your situation for donating the materials. Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Moonbase 3[edit]

Moonbase 3 has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 09:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Star Cops[edit]

Star Cops has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 09:34, 23 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Doctor Who (series 14)#Requested move 2 December 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 00:04, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What are the most important concepts of science fiction?[edit]

Some interesting discussions are held at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Subpage_3#SF_novels and Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Subpage_3#Add_the_following_sf_films. Those discussions concern Vital-5, i.e. chosing the corpus of 50k most vital Wikikipedia articles (V4 lists 10k, V3 1k, V2 100 and V1 10).

For context, science fiction is a Science fiction  4 V4-level article. It did not make it to V3 (see Wikipedia:Vital_articles#Arts_(45_articles), seems reasonable).

At V4, sf is listed at Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/4/Arts#Literature_(217_articles) with one subgenre/concept (Time travel  4). A number of sf/fantasy works of literature are listed but it is a bit hard to get a quick count as that list is done in chronological (era) not genra period. There are four sf/fantasy films listed at Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/4/Arts#Science_fiction/Fantasy_(4_articles). Television shows like Star Trek  4 are at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Society and social sciences.

At V5, sf concepts can be found at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Arts (literatue, film), Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Society and social sciences/Culture (television) and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Everyday life/Sports, games and recreation (video games).

And of course, people are at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/People and at V5, Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Writers and journalists, Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Entertainers, directors, producers, and screenwriters and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Artists, musicians, and composers are relevant.

It is not idea, but VA lists are one dimensional, so sometimes it's hard to figure out where a particular concept belongs.

One final observation and example: Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Arts#Speculative_fiction_(9_articles) lists # Speculative fiction, # Alternate history, # Fantasy (Level 4), # Horror fiction (Level 4), # Science fiction (Level 4), ##  Cyberpunk, ## Time travel (Level 4), ## Teleportation and # Superhero fiction. The obvious (for me) ommssion of Steampunk  5 is not an ommission but one of those weird categorization - it is listed under Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Arts#Concepts_and_forms_(99/100_articles) (for Visual arts, as a subtopic of retro style). Probably should be moved.

Anyway, if anyone is looking for a new fun time sink, and/or feels like making a case what are some of the most important works and creators or concepts of sf, sto by WP:VITAL :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

George Griffith is at WP:FAC, see WP:Featured article candidates/George Griffith/archive1. Further input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. TompaDompa (talk) 08:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Robots of Stanisław Lem#Requested move 6 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of films featuring androids[edit]

Cleaning up the See Also list at Ex Machina, it became obvious that we need a List of films featuring androids. Anyone feeling in the mood to get it going? I would but my list would be too trivial:

That's it. I'm afraid that IMO there are very few SF films worth the time it takes to watch them 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There already is a List of fictional robots and androids with a section for film. It's not exactly a quality piece of Wikipedia content, to put it mildly, but it exists. TompaDompa (talk) 12:12, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
TYVM, that's helpful. List articles can never be more that a set of pointers to specific articles, so we mustn't be too hard. The problem for my purposes with that one is that it is too non-selective and too open-ended. I think that there is an opening for a list that is restricted to movies where the android is leading actor or at least best supporting. Somebody who knows more about it than I do might mine that article to create the new one? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can't say I see the point. Sounds like a better idea to write a proper prose article on androids in fiction, assuming we have the sources for it (compare e.g. Mars in fiction). For the record, Robots in fiction currently redirects to Robots in literature, while Robots in film redirects to Science fiction film#Robots. TompaDompa (talk) 12:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Life, the Universe, & Everything#Requested move 18 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Hilst [talk] 11:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good article reassessment for Clare Winger Harris[edit]

Clare Winger Harris has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster (chat!) 12:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Superman (1978 film)#Requested move 1 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]