Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NIKKO SUNSET

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 00:16, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NIKKO SUNSET[edit]

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I was really unsure to put this or not. This seems like a promotion page though and I'm not sure about the notability. From what it seems, Nikko Sunset is salted, so this might need to be also. (I think there was a AFD with this article name before-but I can't find one) Wgolf (talk) 00:16, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the article. I don't know why this article nominated for deletion? It's notable and enough sources you can find about the subject. The actor is really notable itself.Forest90 (talk) 02:18, 27 May 2019 (UTC) I think Merge the article be the best option. The artist work and history could insert inside another article about Greek Artist.Forest90 (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well it has been previously deleted a bunch of times and salted before, I was REALLY unsure to do this or not, but given the history of the page I felt like putting it up as a AFD then. Wgolf (talk) 02:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also I might just withdraw this if need be, but as I said there does seem to be history going against this given how it has been salted in the past, so I wanted to see what others think as well. (I was going to move it to be not in all uppercase, but since I couldn't...) I don't normally afd articles with this much info anyway (usually short ones to be honest) Wgolf (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forest90, could you show us any of these sources that demonstrate notability? The only reliable source in the article at present appears to be the one from Patris News and that's a primary source interview. Almost everything else is unreliable music blogs and/or passing mentions advertising a new song. I'm struggling to find anything usable at the moment. Richard3120 (talk) 13:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Richard3120, I change my comment, at the first time that I searched about the subject it was looked like it's a famouse artist, but now, I change my comment.Forest90 (talk) 14:22, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This DJ is not notable even in all caps. That article (if you could even call it that) is an abomination. Trillfendi (talk) 04:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the article. It's notable article and enough sources you can find about the subject. My opinion is to Keep! manolishusemusic (talk) 12:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC) Blocked as a suspected sockpuppet of Nikosathens31. Richard3120 (talk) 23:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep For sure you must keep this article. It is clear with Sources and Photos petros (talk) 12:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC) 154.57.7.131 (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC) Blocked as a suspected sockpuppet of Nikosathens31. Richard3120 (talk) 23:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Both the above "keep" comments are the only Wikipedia edits by these editors... there may be some socking or meatpuppetry at play here. Richard3120 (talk) 13:29, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The "keep" votes above are probably the result of canvassing, and are definitely guilty of the "just notable" fallacy. Note the name of the person who created this version of the article, and the fact that the title is in all caps indicates an attempt to get around previous deletions. Now for the policy argument: the article seems to be using his "Region Media Award" as the claim for notability but that awards ceremony is apparently not of interest to the mainstream media in that country, so I would argue that it's not a notable award. Otherwise,the DJ has a lot of works but media discussion about them can only be found in introductory form at unreliable blogs, and everything else is routine industry notices and self-produced social media. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment-I think some sock puppetry is going on here. Wgolf (talk) 15:05, 27 May 2019 (UTC) @Doomsdayer520: and @Richard3120:, I put up a report for a possible SPI, put more if you find any. Wgolf (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~:Comment-I think you must change the Name NIKKO SUNSET to Nikko Sunset and keep the article. nikosathens31 (Nikosathens31)~~ Blocked for suspected sockpuppetry. Richard3120 (talk) 23:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Nikosathens31 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

Delete - Fails to get close to WP:GNG. When editors above say "....It's notable and enough sources you can find about the subject. The actor is really notable itself." what exactly does that mean? "Notable enough....." has no meaning. Looks like somebody got his friends round to try and make the case. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 15:18, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE - No notability. The page's purpose seems to be exclusively promotional in nature (or perhaps nostalgiac). Some of the text seems borrowed from the Discogs page. As an aside, it does that poorly as for example, the top two external links are for the same 'official' page, which hasn't been updated in a year. Quick searches with google or news come up with little or nothing. ogenstein (talk) 17:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Normally I don't weigh in on subjects where sources may be in non-English, but re-creating a page for a subject previously deleted and SALTED is a blatant attempt to do an end-run around Wikipedia policy, and the canvasing/sockpuppetery noted above is also fairly obvious. THere's also a bit of sleigh-of-hand puffery evident in claiming to be with a major label by name checking Universal. It's another case (showing up all too frequently on musician's vanity pages) of their small, independent label using the distribution services of the Universal Music Group--services available to any label/musician--as a way to claim of being part of the Universal family of labels. ShelbyMarion (talk) 22:39, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment-looks like I was right in putting this up. When someone said he might be notable I was thinking "well is he?" and was wondering what others thought (the one keep that is probably not a SPI). Anyway, this should be salted. Wgolf (talk) 23:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt. Not notable. No significant coverage in reliable sources, and no appearances on major record charts. — Newslinger talk 07:16, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A run-of-the-mill DJ. There is not in-depth coverage for him, or his artistic achievements (if any). A purely promotional piece for a no notable DJ. For those who understand Greek, see the deletion discusssion of the Greek-language WP article on him. ——Chalk19 (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PS. The Greek article has been also created by user Nikosathens31, obviously Nikko Sunset in person. ——Chalk19 (talk) 15:08, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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