Talk:The Old Man and the Key

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Good articleThe Old Man and the Key has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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April 28, 2011Good article nomineeListed
February 6, 2012Good topic candidatePromoted
Current status: Good article

Removed trivia item[edit]

When Grandpa says " That's the glitziest 'Welcome To' sign ever!", the captions the end is different as " I've ever seen.".

I removed this because not only is it well-worded ("the captions is different"?), I'm not quite sure what this means. (I haven't seen the episode). If somebody adds it back in, be sure to fix the spacing and punctuation, too... - furrykef (Talk at me) 04:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion in revision 303773303[edit]

Plot text was heavily edited without significant addition in a manner that made the article unreadable. Reverted to the last edit with coherent text. 75.118.71.87 (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Ruby2010 comment! 17:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will review sometime today. Ruby2010 comment! 17:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  • See below (ratings data)
  2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  3. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  5. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Comments[edit]

  • ...is the thirteenth episode of The Simpsons thirteenth season. Shouldn't The Simpsons be possessive (add an apostrophe)?
Done. Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add link to first mention of hoochie (either use this or slut)
Done. Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Abe then reconciles with Homer Change to Grampa for consistency, since this is the first and only mention of the name Abe
Okay. Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You need ratings data
I couldn't find any. Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This might be useful. I also found this, but it might have been for the following week's episode. Ruby2010 comment! 19:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC) I found those using a Google archive search ([1]). Some of the other articles cost money, but if you have a subscription to any of them, I encourage you to scrounge for more ratings data. Hope that helps, Ruby2010 comment! 19:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the links! I'll implement the first one into the article soon. Yes, I'm afraid the second one rather documents the rating for "Tales from the Public Domain", which aired the following week. I use Google archives to find ratings too! I don't have a subscription to any of those newspapers, which, I've found, can be pretty hindering when it comes to finding ratings (there are seriously NO free ratings document for ANY season 10 episode!!). If you, or perhaps someone you know on Wikipedia, has one of those subscriptions, I would be overjoyed if you'd send me some ratings info on season 10 episodes, because there's no way to get your hands on them for free. Still, thanks for the link! :) Queenieacoustic (talk) 20:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the first link to the article. I'd still like to stress though that several of my GA's (including my latest one) did not have any ratings info, and still passed. Queenieacoustic (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The scene has become very popular since the episode's broadcast... Does the DVD commentary say it has become "very popular"? Or did you just conclude that after seeing it on The Daily Show?
In the commentary, Al Jean states that it is one of their most popular scenes. I can give you a transcript or send you an audio file if you don't believe me.
  • Entertainment Weekly should be in italics and DVD Verdict should not be
Done. Queenieacoustic (talk) 19:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just work out the issues above, and the article will be ready for GA status. Please respond here when you are finished. Thanks, Ruby2010 comment! 18:35, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have access to a newspaper database through my alma mater. I'm sure your local library or university would offer the same. I did a basic search and discovered a bit more about the episode's ratings (and I'm sure a lot would be found on season 10 as well). Here's what one source said:

For the week of March 4-10, CBS averaged 14.5 million viewers, NBC had 12.3 million viewers, ABC averaged 7.7 million, Fox also had 7.7 million, UPN had 3.6 million, the WB had 3.3 million and Pax TV had 1.4 million.
Listings include the week's ranking, the week's rating and full season-to-date ranking in parentheses. An X in parentheses denotes one-time-only presentation. A rating measures the percentage of the nation's 97 million TV homes.
The Simpsons, Fox, 7.9
The source for the above data is:
Title: MOVE OVER, `ER': `CSI' MAKES THE COLLAR ON THE RATINGS BEAT; [METRO Edition]
Associated Press. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Mar 15, 2002. pg. E.6
THANK YOUU!!!! You have no idea how grateful I am, now I can finally find ratings info on season 10 episodes! Thanks again! :D Queenieacoustic (talk) 21:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll pass the GA, with the assumption you will add the data I provided above. Let me know if you ever need other ratings help. Thanks and good luck, Ruby2010 comment! 20:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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