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Removing Jr. from title again[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. No consensus for the proposal. However, in the meantime the article should probably be moved to Richard Yates Jr. (i.e. minus the comma) per WP:JR. Number 5 7 14:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Yates, Jr. → ? – "Jr." in name appears to be contrived/not in historical use; removed in 2011, but moved back with no explanation other than "better title", so treating as controversial Closeapple (talk) 19:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC) On 2011-02-07, I moved Richard Yates, Jr. to Richard Yates (20th century politician) because there is no evidence that "Jr." was used by this person, and both he and his father Richard Yates (19th century politician) were both governors of Illinois and both U.S. Congressmen. On 2011-11-23, Connormah (talk · contribs) moved it back, with no explanation other than "better title". In the meantime, the father's article was moved from Richard Yates (19th century politician) to Richard Yates (politician, born 1815) per Talk:Richard Yates (politician, born 1815)#(19th century politician) to (19th-century politician) or (politician, born 1815). There is still no evidence that these politicians or WP:RS made use of "Sr." or "Jr." in these names. If there is no objection within a week, I intend to move this article to Richard Yates (politician, born 1860) or maybe Richard Yates (20th-century politician) (as of 2014-12-23): I think it's a bit awkward, but it world conform to the examples in WP:QUALIFIER, and the father's article was moved to a similar disambiguator after notifying everyone on the talk page. (I still think "20th-century politician" is less awkward though.) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 20:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC) --Closeapple (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update: At Talk:Richard Yates (politician, born 1815)#(19th century politician) to (19th-century politician) or (politician, born 1815), the person who moved it to "born 1815" has said that "19th-century politician" for the father is just as good as long as the hyphen is in there, and there's a possibility that the father's birth year is not actually known. So I guess "19th-century politician" and "20th-century politician" (for symmetry) might be appropriate, as long as the hyphens are used. --Closeapple (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose name change from Richard to Robert. Will reconsider the request when it is fixed. Dicklyon (talk) 19:52, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, how did I manage that? Fixed. Also, I've added that Richard Yates (20th-century politician) is possible. --Closeapple (talk) 04:58, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Jr. is much a better disambiguation than some parenthetical one. "Jr." is shorter and simpler. --George Ho (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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