Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography

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Shanghai has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Kind-of-an-exclave?

New York City has a geographic oddity; there's a couple of streets which only connect to streets outside of the city. In other words, if you start on one of those streets, to drive to the main part of New York City, you need to drive through a different town. I'm talking about Park Dr (Open Street Map). Is there a name for this kind of thing? It's not really an exclave, but effectively is one. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:40, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

That would be a pene-exclave. Many fun examples abound. CMD (talk) 01:59, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! -- RoySmith (talk) 18:34, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

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Suwalki Gap article(s) in relation to surrounding countries

First, I apologize in advance for the length of this note, but I am NOT as knowledgeable as I ought to be about European borders, NATO memberships, or Russian interests.

So please take these as comments from an ignorant, but intellectually hungry, reader who came to Wikipedia to learn more about something read "in the news".

Today, trying to learn more about which European countries are in/out of NATO, I noticed on a NATO map a small area surrounded by NATO countries named "Kaliningrad" and marked as "Russian". I didn't remember anything about it, so I looked for more info here on Wikipedia.

That article on Kaliningrad seemed great until curiosity pulled me into a "vortex". In it, I found & followed, a reference link to this article on the "Suwalki Gap" [Corridor]. I felt it was very informative on many details, but it left me wondering about some pretty basic information I had been looking for.

I hope mentioning those "missing details" here will encourage experts to supplement this article.

[BTW, I already tried following this article's link to the the "Sulwalki Agreement" article, which also is very interesting, but also doesn't address these seemingly basic details. In addition, that article's accompanying historical maps are themselves very confusing, as they identify totally different countries' names. It would be REALLY helpful if someone would annotate those maps to overlay current boundaries/names (using color, see-thru text, etc.) to make it easier to visualize this area's complicated history.]

The "basic details" I believe are missing about the "Suwalki Gap" (Corridor) today (& in the past, if different):

1. Does the Suwalki Gap have recognized technical boundaries? If so, what are those?

2. How much land is encompassed by the Suwalki Gap (sq. Kilometers, sq. Miles, Acres, etc.)? [By this, I'm trying to get a feel for whether it might be "wide enough" for effective military passage without the necessity of a military unit having to "touch" the border of either Poland or Lithuania?]

3. Is the "Suwalki Gap" recognized as being the legal border between Poland & Lithuania? If not, where is that border in relation to the Suwalki Gap?

4. At different points during my reading, I got the impression that the Sulwalki Gap runs across (or was carved from) either current Poland or current Lithuania. Which is correct, or is some from each?

5. There is a map in this article under "EU civilian infrastructure" that identifys an "S61" expressway that "passes through the Suwałki Gap", but that map doesn't illustrate the Suwalki Gap at all. It also doesn't identify whether all of the area shown on that map is within Poland or if it includes portions of adjacent countries. Clarification of what this map shows in relation to the Suwalki Gap would be very helpful.

The above seem to me to be important "basic" details that I'm sure must have been inadvertently omitted from inclusion with the otherwise very thorough content of this article.

Thanks, Paul Pdalton (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Pdalton, the Suwalki gap is a geopolitical concept rather than a legally defined space, aligning roughly with the shortest distance between Kaliningrad and Belarus. This happens to be more or less the location of the Polish-Lithuanian border, both of which are in NATO. The S61 expressway is designed to go from the Warsaw direction right to the border, and thus pass between Kaliningrad and Belarus. This sort of chokepoint concept exists elsewhere, for example the Siliguri Corridor. I would encourage posting such questions directly on article talkpages, where they are more likely to be seen. Best, CMD (talk) 01:46, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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RFC on Maps and Charts

I have started a RFC at WP:VPP (Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RFC_on_using_maps_and_charts_in_Wikipedia_articles)asking for clarification of the OR policy regarding the use of maps and charts as sources in Wikipedia articles. I'm posting here as this project would likely be among the most affected. Dave (talk) 06:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

The RFC, now at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Using maps as sources, has questions related to notability. --Rschen7754 06:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Fate of Stromboli link

There is a split proposal ongoing at Talk:Stromboli#Split proposal to split Mount Stromboli off from the article about the island which is currently at Stromboli. The split proposal doesn't clearly say what will remain at that location, whether it will be Stromboli (disambiguation), Stromboli (island), or possibly Stromboli (food). Input would be appreciated in that split proposal and especially the subsection Talk:Stromboli#Discussion on fate of Stromboli link. Thank you. —DIYeditor (talk) 13:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

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Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:09, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Proposed refactoring of geographic feature notability

We are discussing a proposal to refactor the guidelines for geographic feature notability. Please feel free to join in the discussion of this proposal. — hike395 (talk) 03:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

GIS project or sub project here?

Hello,

So I've been focusing a lot on the main geography page, but also a bit on various GIS pages. I was wondering if creating a spin off project to tackle just those would be meaningful, and then going to request help from anyone who would know how to set that up. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 17:13, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Merger discussion for Sudanian savanna

An article which may be of interest to members of this project—Sudanian savanna—has been proposed for merging with Sudan (region). If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 89.206.112.13 (talk) 17:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Adam's_Bridge#Requested_move_5_May_2023

First RM since 2021, please share your opinion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Czech Republic RM

For the interested: Talk:Czech_Republic#Closure_of_"Rename_to_Czechia"_discussion Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:03, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

RFC on usage of First Nations placenames on Wikipedia

There is an ongoing request for discussion concerning whether First Nations placenames can be used in the infobox on Wikipedia. Please provide your feedback here. Poketama (talk) 02:23, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Somerset

I have nominated Somerset for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 02:58, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Biledulgerid

Eh... there's a stub article on this imaginary place that someone knowledgeable in NW Africa really should clean up if they can spare the time. We shouldn't completely delete it since it does show up on many many period maps, but we should make it clear that it wasn't a real thing, who the actual people in the area were, and what the actual states were during the 1600s, 1700s, and 1800s when Europeans just handwaved the region with this mangled Arabic name. — LlywelynII 14:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC)