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Aus club navigational boxes dilemma

So with the templates of Australian soccer clubs (e.g. Template:Adelaide United FC), not sure they should contain both men and women navigational links, or have the women info in a seperate one like Template:Adelaide United FC (A-League Women). Some navboxes like Template:Arsenal F.C. or Template:FC Barcelona have both men and women, and don't have separate women navboxes. Since we already have navboxes for A-League Women teams, do we agree to close them and mix the info with the original navbox compiled with both men and women links, or keep them in separate navboxes? Personally I think if they are the same club, and some women links won't be too much in a separate navbox, I think the better option is to combine both in the one navbox. But I want to make sure this is an all-clear thing to do before making any specific change. FastCube (talk) 10:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Coming back to this (and still hoping someone talks about it); originally what comes to mind is combining the men's and women's info, as the navbox is simply representing the club in question, as does many others like Template:Arsenal F.C. or Template:FC Barcelona. I've also seen other Australian sports club navboxes with men and women info in the one navbox as well. I only revamped and split the info of some of the ALW club navboxes like I did with Template:Adelaide United FC (A-League Women) and Template:Melbourne City FC (A-League Women), since they already existed and looked like a bit of a mess. Although, what makes sense is one club navbox. FastCube (talk) 23:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Great question FastCube. I would definitely be in favour of merging the two. Template:Sydney FC is already merged but then the ladies one is still there. I think as they are the same club it makes one of templates redundant. I'm not 100% the way the Arsenal template example provided is styled perfectly but I think it's a good enough job. Again if you put this to a vote, I would be sticking my hand up for Merge. Eccy89 (talk) 12:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Merge for me seems the most logical outcome. Matilda Maniac (talk) 08:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Information displayed on Australian soccer clubs in continental competitions

Matilda Maniac recently updated the "Top scorers" section of the article, and made the decision to list the Asian Champions League and the AFC Cup goals separately since (his words) i decided to split the Champions League from the AFC Cup as they are separate competitions and more importantly different quality competitions, so Túlio's efforts are not the same as Berisha's in a better competition. Dare I say "not in the same league" As I said to MM, I see the merit in this, as the competitions are indeed different levels (as the Aussies' performances show). However, I think if we do that, we need to split all the information. Currently, the stats by club and stats by opponents league are all for both competitions. If we say the info should be separate, then it should be for that too. If the info is for all continental competitions, then also the goalscorers should be together. Also, if it is split like now, how to deal in future with players who score in both competitions? What do editors think? --SuperJew (talk) 12:11, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

I think that the goals should be divided as MM edit reflects. Though I am not sold on the "performance by year" aesthetic. I can see by the references that it would be easier to do it this way currently though. For players scoring in both competitions they should just be listed that way (i.e. in the corresponding competition). The stats by opponents league are fine to keep as is, as they are from that particular league (you can judge the quality of opposition by it's national league if you so desire). I would probably like to see the stats by season divided into two lines (one for ACL, one for AFC Cup). As for the stats by club, I think it would be useful to add the columns "Qualified for ACL" and "Qualified for AC" as a quick indicator. (Yes, I'm aware it says it in the section above, but this is to make the table easier to read - and to help differentiate quality as this is what the debate is around).

Side tangent – I know currently we have the games by club section, but maybe it would be cleaner to list it by year (compare each clubs performance by the year) - can then direct to the clubs performance in international competition page (or section on their main page as that is where the table is taken, e.g. Central Coast Mariners FC#Continental record — Eccy89 (talk) 13:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Bulls FC Academy

I need someone with a bit more know how to fix up the Bulls FC Academy page. They have re-branded from Northbridge FC to Bulls FC Academy, and the page needs a lot of work. I gave it a go but I'm not at that level yet. It needs a LOT of work if someone could help. Matt jobe watson (talk) 10:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Wyndham City Stadium / Wyndham Regional Football Facility split

Can the two stadiums of Wyndham City Stadium and Wyndham Regional Football Facility be split into two different articles? Granted they are both in the same particular area, but they are two separate venues. FastCube (talk) 05:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)