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I posted a question on Talk:Gang war that people here may be qualified to answer - about the possibility of a primary topic for this one. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 11:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Cameronia

Hi there! I'm hoping someone in this project can help me figure out what to do about Cameronia. Right now, it redirects to a set index list of ships. However, it's also a lichen genus. Our article is at Cameronia (lichen). If a reader just types in the genus name, it takes them to the list of ships. Do I add a hat note there? Create a disambiguation page instead? I note there are also several "Cameronian" articles, which could also be on a disambiguation page... MeegsC (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

It depends which (if either) is the primary topic. Neither has many incoming links. The ships have more pageviews but that's still only one a day and may be because no one can find the lichen article. The ships also dominate search results. However, I'm not sure it's fair to nominate a list of articles as primary over a single topic. I would be minded to overwrite the redirect Cameronia with a dab, with a See also section listing Cameronian and Cameronians (disambiguation). Certes (talk) 16:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I also think it would be best to change Cameronia to a disambiguation page. Nick Number (talk) 16:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Elixia

And another one. This has a stub article (completely unattributed) created in 2012 about a chain of Nordic fitness centres and not updated since (other than by various wikignomes fixing categories, etc.). There's also an article called Elixia (lichen). Do I just add that as a hat note to the current Elixia article? Or should these two plus Elixiaceae be on a disambiguation page? MeegsC (talk) 16:20, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, Elixia (the fitness chain) seems to exist at least in France and Germany as well as Nordic countries. So its stub could probably be expanded. The fitness chain gets many more page views[1] but is that enough to make it the primary topic? Rosbif73 (talk) 16:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay. I'll just add a hatnote to the existing Elixia article then. Thanks! MeegsC (talk) 16:45, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

It will be interesting to see whether the lichen's views go up once readers can actually find it via the hatnote. Certes (talk) 17:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't expect much. Lichens are a pretty niche interest! ;) MeegsC (talk) 23:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Ephebe

Sorry – found another one! Ephebe is a redirect to Ephebos, an article about an Ancient Greek social class. It's also the name of a lichen genus. Do I add a hat note to Ephebos? (And if so, how do I do so, given there's already an "about" template that links to an Ephebos disambiguation page?) Or do I create a disambiguation page for Ephebe? MeegsC (talk) 16:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

The guideline is at WP:DPT. You can use this tool to compare pageviews. For potentially controversial moves, see WP:RM. 162 etc. (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Ephebos gets far more page views, but it's hard to know how many of those are via the Ephebe redirect. I'd be tempted to overwrite that redirect with a dab page, listing the lichen genus, the lichen species and Ephebe (Discworld), as well as the alternative name of Ephebos. As to the hatnote on Ephebos, there are various templates for multiple hatnotes, such as {{For-multi}} and {{About-distinguish}}. Rosbif73 (talk) 16:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Ephebe was a disambiguation page from 2010 until March 2023. Plantdrew (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

So it was! In which case, just revert that bold, undiscussed change. Rosbif73 (talk) 20:57, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I've queried the editor who made that change to ask that the disambiguation page be reinstated. We'll see what happens next! MeegsC (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

The dab's main entries are repeated on Ephebos (disambiguation), which is linked from Ephebe's target, though it's not obvious from the hatnote that one should look there for other meanings of Ephebe such as the lichen. The big question, as usual, is whether there's a primary topic. Certes (talk) 00:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

XX and female

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Talk:XX#Inclusion of Female. This began several months ago, went quiet, and recently resumed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move

There is a discussion taking place at Talk:Sathish#Requested_move_23_November_2023 about whether or not to move Sathish to Sathish Muthukrishnan. --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

want to convert page

wnat to edit this as noramal page of wikipwdia , this page can more usefully as it going to provide information of clan like member, their occupation and their history.

Please instruct me can i edit this page as further... Ashokkbhalse (talk) 18:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ashokkbhalse: To create an article, please follow the guidance at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. A key point is to create the article on a new page, rather than writing it over the top of an existing page with a different purpose which we still need to keep. (That would be termed an article hijack). Certes (talk) 19:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Jonson

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Jonson (name) about moving the page to Jonson. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Holywell

An editor has requested that Holywell be moved to Holywell (disambiguation), which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Aoeuidhtns (talk) 13:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)