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Death Valley[edit]
A user, Smasongarrison, added the WP Death banner to the talk page for Death Valley. I doubt that that article is in scope for this Wikiproject, as it doesn't have much specifically to do with death.
So I have removed the banner. But I figure Wikiprojects are entitled to track the articles they want to, so I'm dropping this note just in case the sense of the Wikiproject is that the article is in scope. --Trovatore (talk) 20:52, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I recently created Death of Lisa Edwards. Any help with expansion would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Lists Deaths in Month 1987-1989; rv to redirect[edit]
For future reference the discussion on Vg8443's Talk page has been moved here.Mill 1 (talk) 19:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi Vg8443, I just stumbled upon some of your edits in the "Deaths in ..." lists, where you were deleting many entries (and also linking some for which we meanwhile have entries). While it is great that someone is going through those lists, cleaning up a bit, I don't think that someone should start working in the project by deleting stuff. There is always a delicate decision to be made, and I doubt that someone without a lot of experience should do it. The risk is too high to delete entries for notable people for which we just do not have an article yet. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 08:31, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Matthiaspaul If you look at the individual edits of Vg8443 you will notice that he/she was trying to match the death entries to the current agreed format (see January 1990 and onwards). Unfortunately Vg8443 stopped this effort; many of the deaths per month articles Vg8443 created the past few days are in the format of the Year-pages. Or they contain multiple formats.
- Vg8443 just copied the deaths section of the corresponding Year pages and created new month articles from them. In the wrong format, without any new notable entries and without adding a single citation. Vg8443 still has a lot of work to do. I should know; the last time something similar happened (regarding 1995) I volunteered to clean up the mess. Took me months. Right now I assess the quality of the newly created articles so poor that I am of the opinion that it would be best to return them to their initial state of redirects. In its current state these pages offer no additional value. Mill 1 (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Many of the targets for subjects are actually not the correct person, Vg has been linking only to straight names, not dabbed articles. I would agree, reverting all to redirects are warranted.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:45, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Mill and Lorien, I am sure Vg acted in good faith but I tend to agree that reversion might be necessary to maintain the quality without creating too much overhead.
- Vg, it is now high time for you to join the discussion.
- --Matthiaspaul (talk)
- @Matthiaspaul Thank you for your feedback. I spent the evening going over Vg's edits and although I share your opinion that Vg acted in good faith I also found more troubling evidence regarding WP:SAL, WP:CLN and WP:CIR. Copy/paste errors regarding categories and combining different entry formats within an article for instance.
- To some extend I blame myself for this situation; until July 2021 deaths per YEAR articles existed, for instance Deaths in 1995 and Deaths in 1999. However, this year template is now unknown/unused since I created monthly deaths lists going back to 1990. As a result several editors have since then tried to create new Deaths per Month articles which poses the issues we're discussing now. I suggest re-instating the Deaths per year pages for 1987-1989 and redirecting Vg's new articles to them. As a coincidence (?) regarding the mentioned years the Deaths sections in the corresponding Year pages were deleted following the decision of splitting births and deaths from year articles. My suggestion would also fix the erroneous links in Lists of deaths by year that arose from that cleanup.
- Excuses for the long text. What say you, Matthias, @Loriendrew and @Surveyor_Mount? Mill 1 (talk) 22:54, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Despite this discussion, which they are not responding to, there have been continued additions of dab targets. They may be trying in good faith, but there seems to be enough non-responsiveness and potential WP:CIR issues at hand. Nuke them, then work on one month at a time.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:59, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Loriendrew I am on it and will make the necessary changes soon. I will also move this discussion to a more appropriate place for future reference. Mill 1 (talk) 11:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- Despite this discussion, which they are not responding to, there have been continued additions of dab targets. They may be trying in good faith, but there seems to be enough non-responsiveness and potential WP:CIR issues at hand. Nuke them, then work on one month at a time.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:59, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Many of the targets for subjects are actually not the correct person, Vg has been linking only to straight names, not dabbed articles. I would agree, reverting all to redirects are warranted.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:45, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Project-independent quality assessments[edit]
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class=
parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.
No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.
However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom
parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement![edit]
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Death of Lashawn Thompson[edit]
I just created a draft for the Death of Lashawn Thompson. Thriley (talk) 15:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)