Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Constructed languages

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
WikiProject iconConstructed languages Project‑class
WikiProject iconThis page is within the scope of WikiProject Constructed languages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of constructed languages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Constructed languagesWikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languagesTemplate:WikiProject Constructed languagesconstructed language articles
ProjectThis page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.

More tasks[edit]

Instead of writing articles for the red links quoted above, I there are a few other things we should IMO give priority. I've listed them below. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red links[edit]

First of all, we should really have a discussion about the question whether we REALLY want those articles. If we put up a list of red links in the Portal (a featured portal, mind ;) ), we should at least be able to promise the person who writes it that it will "in all likeliness" survive an AfD. Looking at the list above, I'm far from sure we can do that in all cases.

This is more or less the same issue Kaleissin addressed on Jon's talk page. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New web on Universalglot: http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/universalglot/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.146.148.149 (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template[edit]

See here. Jon made a proposal, and I made one based on Jon's. I'm not going to advertise mine in comparison with Jon's. The basic difference is that Jon tries to cover almost all conlang-related articles, while I tried to limit myself to the most important stuff. Anyway, I think we should find an answer to the question which one to use:

  • Jon's
  • Mine
  • Something else
  • No template at all.

—IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I slightly prefer yours to Jon's, but I think it needs to be pruned even further. It's roughly the same size or even larger than some of the smaller conlang articles, which seems excessive. Probably it should just link to the main articles about types of conlang, and maybe some articles about conlang-related matters like Relexification and Translation relay, with very few if any links to specific languages. --Jim Henry 20:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed - the point should be to link to general information about conlangs, not to send them to every other conlang page. It's not a webring :) DenisMoskowitz 19:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Templates and added {{Constructed languages}}. Added 'notable' wording but didn't actually prune the list; someone else please do so. Templates displayed on all pages should be slender and widely applicable. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 01:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Order instead of Chaos[edit]

The way the article Constructed language is set up, is actually quite clear. But there are a lot of subpages that overlap, contain double and sometimes conflicting data... In short, I think it would be worth to reorganise this whole thing a little.

—IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, never mind, I've already done most of that. I've merged all lists found under artistic language, fictional language, list of fictional languages, international auxiliary language, engineered language, and the list of constructed languages itself into one renewed and fairly complete list of constructed languages. The other lists have been replaced with a link pointing to the corresponding section of the latter.
I've expanded the description of "fictional language" somewhat in artistic language#fictional languages. Right now, neither fictional language nor the list of fictional languages have any info that can't be found on artistic language or the list of constructed languages. In other words, in my opinion they should both become redirects. That also solves the discussion about a merger of fictional language with its corresponding list.
That's at least my idea. But there is a possible alternative solution: that we move the entire list of constructed languages#fictional languages back to the list of fictional languages and replace it with a link to it. It's not my preferred solution, because there is quite some overlap between fictional languages and other artistic languages and we will soon end up with new doublets again. But before I go on and turn articles into redirects, I'd appreciate some input first. —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 12:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I say you've done a good thing - let's leave it like that. DenisMoskowitz 16:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. So, what precisely do you mean? Turn fictional language and list of fictional languages into redirects, then? —IJzeren Jan In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij 18:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gibson Code[edit]

I added a stub for Gibson Code, which is as far as I can tell a constructed language. If anyone who watches this page knows anything more about it, please help the stub along. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Project Directory[edit]

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Day Awards[edit]

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Language codes for constructed languages[edit]

I've made a table of language codes for constructed languages. Is this suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia? And if so, where? (I would need to add some words of explanation, of course.) --Zundark 16:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to ISO, SIL, and BCP language codes for constructed languages. Please check for articles about language codes for other languages, copy their metainfo, and link both to an from. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 01:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Esperanto task force[edit]

I've just created an Esperanto task force to tag, assess, create, and maintain articles on Esperanto in particular. I've already tagged and assessed every known article in Category:Esperanto and all of its subcategories, but the task force is still very basic. I'm trying to create the {{Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Constructed_language_articles_by_quality_statistics}} chart for Esperanto-specific articles, but I'm not sure how to do it. Help would be greatly appreciated. TFCforever

I don't think you can do so easily. The current chart (on the WP:CL main page) is auto-generated by bot. It understands 'quality' and 'importance' (the latter tag is messed up in {{WP conlangs}} - needs fixing; I made {{WP conlangs sandbox}} but something's wrong in it). It doesn't know any other tags TTBOMK. You could make a bot for the purpose, or make a new category.... dunno really. Try asking on WP:1.0? Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 06:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional Language article/category[edit]

The article Fictional language is, for some reason, not the main article for Category:Fictional languages. I don't know how this would be fixed, so I'm alerting you folks. Bowmanjj (talk) 09:26, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done This could also be done by editing the category page to have a text intro with a link to Fictional language. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 10:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox[edit]

If any of you guys wants to advertise your membership, I made a userbox for it.

Conlang WikiProject
This user is a member of WikiProject Constructed languages.
Which is {{User Conlang-Wikiproject}} correct it if you want, I don't really care. Manu-vetalk pro Skicontribs 22:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Userbox}}. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Templates. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 00:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was a bug in the way the template handled the project membership category, which I've fixed. Pi zero (talk) 13:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of FAR[edit]

Voynich manuscript has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Cheers. Zidel333 (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kesen[edit]

Can anyone please check the article Kesen language?

It is categorized as "constructed", but it looks more like a standardization of a local dialect, and it has problematic sources too.

Thanks in advance. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss it at Talk:Kesen language#Constructed. In any case, controlled languages are also within the scope of WP:CL. I personally know nothing about it and my Japanese is too poor to comprehend the links given, but the article text does appear to indicate that there was creative authorship involved in some way, even if the language is largely a posteriori from some existing dialect. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 06:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanto profanity[edit]

I have begun this urgently needed article. Please feel free to expand it. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 01:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme[edit]

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

  • The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
  • The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
  • A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ido[edit]

Ido has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. D.M.N. (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arahau[edit]

It's been proposed to merge Arahau into the main article on its creator, the Russian writer Ivan Karasev. I don't have a dog in this fight; I'd never heard of Arahau or Karasev until today. What do y'all think? Does anyone have evidence of Arahau being independently notable? --Jim Henry (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Constructed language[edit]

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinators' working group[edit]

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

J. R. R. Tolkien FAR[edit]

I have nominated J. R. R. Tolkien for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article alerts[edit]

This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here.

If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the display=none parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

Message sent by User:Addbot to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome here.

Thanks. — Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 08:59, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Globish[edit]

I rewrote Globish, with citations for each statement. I removed all promotional language (although most of the internet links are still there). I believe the content is now non-controversial. The remaining question is whether this is a distinct notable topic, or if it should be merged into another topic. Mrevan (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Popular articles subpage[edit]

I've added WP:CL to the popular pages list bot. Sai Emrys ¿?✍ 03:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Na'vi[edit]

Started Na'vi language. Rated it as mid importance, where Volapuk is. You might want to rate it higher than that, considering the attention it's likely to receive--probably more than any conlang apart from Klingon & Eo. kwami (talk) 08:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pageview stats[edit]

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Constructed languages to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grabowski Prize[edit]

Grabowski Prize was recently the recipient of a {{Prod}}. May now be resolved but the article would benefit from further expansion. -Arb. (talk) 01:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP 1.0 bot announcement[edit]

This message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment of Toki Pona[edit]

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article following a request on the talk page. You are being notified as your project's banner is on the article talk page. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Toki Pona/GA2. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grabbing your shortcut[edit]

Guys, if it's okay, I'd like to grab the WP:CL shortcut for WP:Clerking. The last time this page was edited by a project member was 2009; do you still need that shortcut? - Dank (push to talk) 22:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Before changing a shortcut like that, you should look at Special:WhatLinksHere, to see what will need to be fixed before you can safely change it. Special:WhatLinksHere/WP:CL. There are clearly lots of places where it's used. --Pi zero (talk) 14:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also note that the shortcut for the (featured) portal is P:CL. --Pi zero (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We'll know within a month whether people want to treat clerking as its own thing or whether it's better handled strictly at WT:UAA, in which case it's a moot point. Anyway, it's not "unsafe" if 3-year-old article talk page comments don't link to the right page any more; in the rare event that someone clicks on the link, they'll see at the top of the page (thanks Xeno) that they need one more click to get to the right page. - Dank (push to talk) 15:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed you reverted and asked for more time; not a problem. If you can get some interest in this wikiproject going, that's the best possible outcome. - Dank (push to talk) 15:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Constructed language articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release[edit]

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Constructed language articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Sunday, November 14th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of November, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

If you have already provided feedback, we deeply appreciate it. For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 16:31, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Category: Speakers of Klingon[edit]

Category:Speakers of Klingon has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 13:50, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Afrihili[edit]

I've expanded the Afrihili article based on what I've been able to dig up. Looks like a fun language. If anyone can find anything else, it would be appreciated. — kwami (talk) 17:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eaiea AfD[edit]

The conlang Eaiea is up at AfD. Even though the article cites http://www.mubetapsi.org/clef/print/clef_s09.pdf, a reliable independent source that gives the subject non-trivial coverage, Hermione Is a Dude wants to delete it. Come and "vote" at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Eaiea_(2nd_nomination) and be sure to check the article out before voting. Wiwaxia (talk) 23:40, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Constructed languages nominated for deletion[edit]

Portal:Constructed languages has been nominated for deletion, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Constructed languages. — Cirt (talk) 04:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category: Volapükologists[edit]

I've added Category:Volapükologists and tagged those who were listed at Volapükologist. -- Evertype·✆ 19:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent!
However, I also noticed a new Category:Translators to Volapük. To be very honest, this seems like over-categorising to me. Wouldn't the translators in question feel perfectly at home in Category:Volapükologists?
For the record, how real and how relevant is the difference between Volapükists and Volapükologists, really? Is it documented somewhere, or is it in fact original research? I am asking, because to me this whole differentiation looks a bit artificial. After all, both must have learned or studied the language (at least to some degree), the only difference being the degree in which the subject takes the whole thing seriously. Obviously, nowadays nobody takes Volapük seriously as a contender for a world language, and in the case of people living 100 years ago it is not always easy to find out what there motives were.
At least, it's perfectly fine to categorise people as Volapükologists, but in my opinion the corresponding articles should somehow make it clear what makes them Volapükologists.
Best, —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 14:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I had originally tagged Ralph Midgley as Category:Translators, and I was told that it was best to use a language-specific translator category. That's why the Category:Translators to Volapük and Category:Translators to Neo now exist. See Category:Translators_by_destination_language. There are lots.
I think it was the Esperantists who first distinguished between eo:Volapukisto and eo:Volapukologo, and the distinction seems fair enough, since today only the latter are really active. Your point about the corresponding articles is relevant enough, however. Do you think something like "So-and-so is considered (by whom?) a Volapükologist because of his work at [whatever]"? -- Evertype·✆ 15:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
From what I have understood, Esperantology is the science that deals with inner linguistics of Esperanto. That does not really match the description "a volapükologist is a person whose scientific interest is Volapük or who learns the language for hobby reasons". To say the least, this looks like one of those cases of the Esperanto worldview being projected way outside its realm. Well, in the case of Esperanto, the difference kind of makes sense, but in the case of Volapük I very much doubt it.
As for translators... To be quite honest, I don't see the need for any of those subcategories. To use Neo as an example, wouldn't it be sufficient if the article Neo language mentioned him as the person who made certain translations and the article Ralph Midgley mentioned that he made several translations into Neo and Volapük? If so, the information is stored already well enough, if you ask me - and that without creating categories which are very unlikely to ever grow beyond one or two articles.
I'd also add that we're getting on thin ice with such categories. After all, many conlangers translate longer texts into their own language(s), and so do I. Still, I wouldn't qualify myself as a translator because of that, but only because I am a professional translator anyway.
As far as adding people to the category Category:Volapükists, the definition of a Volapükologist does not require much (according to that very definition, I am one as well). It would be sufficient to mention that a person is a member of the Volapük Academy since XX/XX/XXXX, wrote this and that in or about Volapük, is an active member of the Volapük community, etc. IMO categories should never give information that is not contained in the article itself (but I am aware of the fact that it happens often anyway). —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 16:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:HighBeam[edit]

Wikipedia:HighBeam describes a limited opportunity for Wikipedia editors to have access to HighBeam Research.
—Wavelength (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should certain articles be included in this WikiProject?[edit]

I've noticed that some of the articles are people who are on Wikipedia simply because they speak Esperanto & are well known. Shouldn't there just be a list titled Fluent Esperanto speakers that you can get to from the Esperanto page? If that is done it tells just about as much info as a good deal of these pages. If you need to also couldn't you say a sentence or two saying why they are prominent enough to be put on the list. T97π (talk) 12:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help?[edit]

So I'm new to wipedia & I'd like to get involved in this Wiki project but this place seems deserted. I've found out its not but I would like perhaps a bit more guidance on maybe what to do. And maybe what you're looking for in articles & what do they need to be qualified into a Conlang article. Something like that. Sorry for tagging this project as inactive but it looked like it was & I knew if it wasn't people would change it back which they did. I'm glad this isn't inactive. T97π (talk) 03:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! Well, the place certainly isn't as active as it has been in the past. I suppose that is because practically every possible article about the subject has already been written - conlangs that don't have an article at this point are in all likeliness not going to meet the standards of notability, verifiability etc. anyway. In other words, for people who want to write new articles, there is little to be done here. However, there are several other things that need work. If you take a look at the hundreds of articles we have in this project, you will notice that many articles are full of ugly tags - expressing doubts regarding notability, original research, neutrality etc. - and that most of those that don't have them are very short articles that probably managed to fly under the radar. Indeed, many conlang articles have little or no references. One thing you could try is expanding existing articles, improving them, finding sources for them, addressing tags, and also removing stuff that actually shouldn't be there at all (for example because there is no way of checking certain info). Constructed languages that have not been added to the project yet should be added and evaluated. Category:Constructed languages contains many articles that are also part of one of its underlying categories (for example, Category:International auxiliary languages) and therefore shouldn't be there. There is the Portal to take care of... Well, many things in fact! Cheers, —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 04:05, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. I have just a question or two. First off how should I find out if an article is of importance to this wikiproject or not & second how do I find some of the resources for the conlangs. Thanks for you help. T97π (talk) 03:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Grin Report[edit]

This article was deleted because of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grin Report. I'm guess that a better sourced article might be possible with knowledge of European languages. e.g. Europe – Democracy – Esperanto, Esperanto and Languages of the European Union all link to the deleted page, and fr:Rapport_Grin shows that this article exists in six other languages of Wikipedia. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Free Greek language for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Free Greek language is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Greek language until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:02, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

VisualEditor at other Wikipedias[edit]

Hi everyone,

If anyone watching this page is active in Wikipedias that use Ido (language) or Esperanto, then I'd love to talk to you. WP:VisualEditor will be made available to all users there in December (next week!) for Ido and in January for Esperanto. A bit of testing and translation work before then would be helpful. If you're interested, please feel free to drop me a note. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:25, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Popular pages tool update[edit]

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:00, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User categories for Blissymbolics[edit]

I have taken the liberty of creating Category:User zbl and the associated templates Template:User zbl, Template:User zbl-1, Template:User zbl-2, Template:User zbl-3, and Template:User zbl-5. (I did not create any zbl-4 because a visual symbolic language can hardly be said to be spoken at "a near native level".) Maybe some members of this project can populate the category; maybe some can even correct my Bliss grammar. Fishal (talk) 00:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PRODs[edit]

Just to let y'all know: I've have nominated six conlang articles for deletion: Universalspraket, Eurolengo, UNI (artificial language), Mezhdunarodny Nauchny Yazyk, Barmoodan and Euronord. I believe we should at least observe a few minimum standards for articles about constructed languages when it comes to notability and verifiability, and these six don't seem to meet the most basic criteria. Do of course feel free to improve them and remove the PROD template! —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 01:40, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject X is live![edit]

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages[edit]

Greetings WikiProject Constructed languages Members!

This is a one-time-only message to inform you about a technical proposal to revive your Popular Pages list in the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:

If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

Best regards, Stevietheman — Delivered: 17:57, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Popular pages report[edit]

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Constructed languages.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

  • The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
  • The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
  • The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Constructed languages, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Language Creation Society[edit]

Language Creation Society(2nd nomination)[edit]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Language Creation Society (2nd nomination) Notability. Alleged WP:COI. Acerbic discussion. Counting merger discussions, a previous deletion, etc., looks closer to a 4th nomination. Sourcing was poorly done. I've fixed references and links. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background[edit]

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Creation of (an) article(s) on Romance IALs/constructed Romance languages[edit]

I had noticed for a while now that the Wikipedia article 'Interlingua' has a 'Romanica' redirect. This redirect is really unjustified. A community of users have been present online on social media platforms as well as mailing lists for many years using Romanica and various related varieties of that same language.

I would also like to draw your attention to the presence of Wikipedia articles on Romanica in different languages Basque, Dutch, Esperanto, Novial, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish, and Interlingua!

Romance IALs are nothing new (with all the grammatical complexity of a modern Romance language), there was an effort by André Schild to create Neolatino in 1947 and he ultimately joined Interlingua. Internacional by Campos Lima was a similar Romance constructed language of around the same era. Interlingua Romanica was created by Josu Lavin in 2001 and Neolatino by Jordi Cassany-i-Bates has a strong online following for several years as well.

I believe we need one or several good articles to reflect the 'movement' of international Romance languages on Wikipedia. But firstly, we must remove the redirect of Romanica to Interlingua. Interlingua is not Romanica. See here some of the redirection discussions: Redirection of Romanica to Interlingua, Articles for deletion/Romanica language, and Talk:Romanica. --CavallèroTalk!! 14:12, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have a slightly different point of view on this one. First of all, for some reason it is always assumed that constructed languages cannot have dialects. They can have versions, iterations, reform projects and so on (where one automatically invalidates the other), but no dialects in the sense of different varieties under the banner of one language. In other words, as soon as a project has a name and an author, it is automatically assumed that it is a language distinct from any other. During my research on Interslavic, I quickly found out that this approach is not only impractical, but also inherently wrong. Not only are the numerous naturalistic Pan-Slavic language projects from past and present almost identical to each other, they are essentially attempts at the very same language—differences are mostly in orthography and personal bias of their authors. I imagine the same thing should also go for most Pan-Romance language projects.
This is how SIL defines a language: "Two related varieties are normally considered varieties of the same language if speakers of each variety have inherent understanding of the other variety (that is, can understand based on knowledge of their own variety without needing to learn the other variety) at a functional level." In the case of Romanica and Interlingua, this seems obvious, since both languages use the same dictionary, and there is no rule that forbids a language to have multiple standards. The exception made by SIL ("Where there is enough intelligibility between varieties to enable communication, the existence of well-established distinct ethnolinguistic identities can be a strong indicator that they should nevertheless be considered to be different languages. This is particularly considered when there are political boundaries separating the language communities.") doesn't apply in this case, since even the author of Romanica is also a prominent member of the Interlingua community. To push the same thought even further: in my view Romanica and Interlingua are both part of the same family of language varieties as Latina Sine Flexione, Latino Moderne, Romanova etc.
There is absolutely no shame in Romanica essentially being an adaption of Interlingua! In fact, I believe this is even much better for both sides than Romanica just being number 2055 on an endless list of auxlangs. Consequently, it would IMO be better for Romanica to be mentioned on the Interlingua page, which has ca. 200 visitors a day, than to have its own page with no more than 10 visitors a day. Besides, there is always the notability problem: without a reasonable amount of non-trivial coverage in reliable, third-party sources, a separate article wouldn't survive here anyway. Cheers, —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 14:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A new newsletter directory is out![edit]

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool[edit]

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding the Kēlen article[edit]

Hi all, I've signed up literally just today to start contributing to some Wikipedia pages. I speak Esperanto and Toki Pona pretty well and a bit of Klingon and Lojban, as well as dribs and drabs about other conlangs. I've started adding to the Kēlen article today adding in phonology and writing systems sections. I hope so far I'm doing everything okay, but like I said, I'm very new, so please let me know what I should/shouldn't be doing if you can (including whether or not I should even be posting this). I'll continue adding to the Kēlen article with Grammar, vocabulary, and so on, such that it is hopefully at least on par with the Klingon article.

MxMorgan (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)MxMorgan[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages § Reorganisation of WikiProject Constructed languages[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Languages § Reorganisation of WikiProject Constructed languages. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC) --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Enochian[edit]

I see this project claims this page. But I have yet to see a source that supports that. Nonetheless, I need editors to review the situation at Enochian. Another editor keeps adding stronger statements than the sources actually support. For example, a source reconstructs the possible Elizabethan pronunciation of this language. The editor titles the corresponding table "Dee's pronunciation" when the source never actually makes that claim, but rather the weaker claim that the table probably represents what the language sounded like to Dee. He is also repeatedly adding the category 'constructed languages', but when asked to back that up, cannot provide a source that makes that statement, instead providing definitions of the term, and claiming that is enough to support the category. Any eyes and editors willing to point out his error in understanding what synthesis is would be appreciated. Skyerise (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Micronational Languages[edit]

Hello! I think that there should be a page about Micronational Languages or a WikiProject about it.

-- A MicroWikipedian Wikipedian (talk) 19:30, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User script to detect unreliable sources[edit]

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interlingue Task Force[edit]

Hey all,

I'd like to make a proposal for a new Interlingue task force; several members of the project have been very active recently in editing Interlingue related content, so I think a place to organise further development would be beneficial. Example projects would be getting articles such as History of Interlingue, Interlingue grammar and Ric Berger to GA.

@Mithridates and @Caro de Segeda have expressed interest in founding one, so if anyone would like to discuss, please do. If no one opposes, I'll set one up.

Regards, Frzzl (talk) 09:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I totally support this initiative. Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Constructed_languages&oldid=1154108293"