Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beauty Pageants

Promotional links soliciting applications

Would others in the project agree with me that the links at Miss Earth 2021#Upcoming national pageants, especially https://divinebeautyindia.com/apply-now/, are promotional and should be removed? ☆ Bri (talk) 22:55, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes they should be removed as they are promotional Sciencefish (talk) 20:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Considering an RfC for non-notable biographies

I'm contemplating an RfC as a followup to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lexi Wilson, in order to develop consensus on what to do with the 95 biographies in the deletion debate, and similar biographies that may be created in the future. The trouble I'm having is deciding exactly what to ask. Potential questions are:

• How to respond to mass WP:PROMO for pageants by any editor
• How to respond specifically to undeclared paid editing
• How to apply WP:BLP1E to one-time contestants
• How to deal specifically to the list of 95
  • Delete
  • Redirect to appropriate pageant
  • Other?

Any thoughts or input are welcome! ☆ Bri (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

My general thoughts are that we should adhere to existing guidelines that pageant winners are considered notable should they win a major national pageant – especially when that pageant is a qualified for a major international pageant – and should receive their own articles if there are reliable sources that exist to support such an article. I am strongly opposed to deleting articles of pageant winners who meet notability guidelines and for whom reliable sources exist solely because of the contributing editors. Speaking generally, if the article would have remained if it were written by a different editor, I do not support its deletion. I also find it difficult to weigh in on the 95 articles you mention, as the list is simply too long. If this list of 95 articles could be broken down into smaller lists, that may be easier. But again, speaking generally, I do not support the deletion of articles for pageant winners who have won major major national titleholders and for whom reliable sources exist. I think that many articles relating to pageantry need to be rewritten, and there are many troublesome editors that must be educated on Wikipedia conventions or blocked, but I do not believe mass deletions are the solution. Overall, I do not think a RfC is necessary and we can handle this on our own. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Discussion on manual of style and flag icons

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons regarding Editor requested consensus be built on the topic here. The thread is Sub-national flags used in lists of national beauty pageant contestants. The discussion is about the topic Flag icons. Thank you. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Considering using the more used/famous names of the contestants rather than using their whole names

Good day! I would like to discuss the format of names of the contestants especially at the articles at Miss World. There is a big difference with the name format of the contestants in the Miss World articles for the 1980s and 1990s, and of the 2000s and 2010s, with the 1980s and 1990s using the "whole name format" whereas the 2000s and 2010s use the shortened more known version of the candidates' names. I personally think that we should use the shortened version of their names rather than the their whole names, since this might cause a confusion especially if the contestant is well known in her stage name or a nickname.

I would like to hear some of your thoughts so that we could make a consensus. Thank you! Allyriana000 (talk) 06:34, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello there, do you want to impose or establish the rules regarding the short names in all pageant articles? Raymarcbadz (talk) 03:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I suggest that we create articles of the Miss World or Miss Universe contestants if we want their names shortened in the table. Raymarcbadz (talk) 03:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

The problem with that is many of the contestants aren't deemed notable since many went back to having normal lives. What I have in mind instead is to leave their longer names to the articles of their national pageants since those articles are linked to their respective country/territory in the Contestants table. Allyriana000 (talk) 00:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Categories

After the project banner has been revived there are a lot of categories that need creating. Please see Template:WikiProject Beauty Pageants — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:18, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

"Ethnic beauty pageants"?

Feel free to join this rename discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)