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Leads of lists[edit]
Look, I don't really want to be rude here, but... it does seem that a lot of lists (or, at least, enough to be noticable) pass with some major grammatical errors in their leads of late. Whenever I'm writing Featured Content reports for the Signpost, I spend a lot of time copyediting articles - and, well, I mean, something like this minor mistake happens in FAs, FLs, everywhere. It's easy to make, and easy to miss. But - and I kind of hate to call an article out, but I've seen things like this a few times:
“ | The Melon Music Award for Song of the Year is an award presented by Kakao M at the annual Melon Music Awards, using data from Melon's streaming service to present awards to artists who have had exceptional performance during the year.[1] Since 2009, the Song of the Year category has comprised one of the ceremony's daesang (grand prize) awards, alongside Album of the Year, Artist of the Year, and later Record of the Year (the latter was presented for the first time during the 2018 ceremony).[2]
An award for best song was given by Melon from 2005 to 2008, although no traditional live ceremony was held—instead, winners were announced through its website. The ceremony was officially held offline in Seoul starting in 2009, with Song of the Year becoming one of its grand prizes.[3] [...] |
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It only needs a little copyediting to be fine, but it didn't get that copyediting, and still passed, despite, well, the end of the first paragraph repeating in the second, the first sentence kind of jumping subject from the Song of the Year to the Melon Music Awards as a whole half-way through, and a few other things. Just to start off, we could easily rewrite this as:
“ | The Melon Music Award for Song of the Year is one of the awards from the annual Melon Music Awards, an event that uses data from Melon's streaming service to celebrate artists who have had exceptional performance during the year.[4]
Award for best song were announced on Melon's website from 2005 to 2008, but live ceremonies began in Seoul starting in 2009, with Song of the Year becoming one of the ceremonies' daesang (grand prize) awards, alongside Album of the Year and Artist of the Year, with Record of the Year being added to this list from the 2018 ceremony on).[5][6] |
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Notes: I don't know if Kakao M presents all the awards or just this one, because it's unclar in the original. Also, the article on Kakao M states it became defunct in 2021, so the information is probably at least out-of-date now. Also, probably shouldn't bother to mention the other grand prize awards unless we're going to link them, but I left them in here.
Again, the point isn't the specifics, and I don't want to call this article out specifically: I've copyedited it now. The point is that enough lists pass with really convoluted and confusing sentence structures, and that's something that's meant to be fixed before they pass, surely. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.1% of all FPs 05:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC) Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.1% of all FPs 05:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have noticed a drop in the quality of prose reviewing recently, where some of the noms will have glaring errors in the lead and still have several supports. I think it's just a result of FLC being severely backlogged and there only being a few regular reviewers, who are now very overworked and consequently probably do quicker, less thorough reviews. AryKun (talk) 04:03, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Lee, Jae-lim (21 October 2021). "Melon Music Awards will be virtual again this year". Korea JoongAng Daily. Archived from the original on April 10, 2022. Retrieved 20 May 2022.
- ^ Hicap, Jonathan (5 December 2021). "BTS, IU, Aespa win grand prizes at Melon Music Awards 2021". Manila Bulletin. Archived from the original on January 2, 2022. Retrieved 20 May 2022.
- ^ Lee, Soo-hyun (19 November 2009). 음원 이용자가 뽑는 멜론뮤직어워드 등장 [Melon Music Awards chosen by music users appears]. Star News (in Korean). Archived from the original on February 4, 2022. Retrieved 4 February 2022 – via Naver.
- ^ Lee, Jae-lim (21 October 2021). "Melon Music Awards will be virtual again this year". Korea JoongAng Daily. Archived from the original on April 10, 2022. Retrieved 20 May 2022.
- ^ Lee, Soo-hyun (19 November 2009). 음원 이용자가 뽑는 멜론뮤직어워드 등장 [Melon Music Awards chosen by music users appears]. Star News (in Korean). Archived from the original on February 4, 2022. Retrieved 4 February 2022 – via Naver.
- ^ Hicap, Jonathan (5 December 2021). "BTS, IU, Aespa win grand prizes at Melon Music Awards 2021". Manila Bulletin. Archived from the original on January 2, 2022. Retrieved 20 May 2022.
OSM mapping tool for lists of historic or other places[edit]
I want to suggest use of now-available tool, in any Good articles or Featured Lists or Featured Topics whose topics include sublists of places with coordinates.
It should be well-known, already, that {{GeoGroup}} provides a link to an OpenStreetMap showing locations of all coordinates given in an article.
Now, however, it is possible to create a similar link covering all the coordinates given in articles within a category. Often, a "List of lists" type article, covering historic sites, or stadiums, or other places, may be improved by a map showing all the locations in all of its sublists.
For example, to the Grade I listed buildings in Somerset, a Good Article and part of a Featured Topic, I just added: "Click here to see an interactive OpenStreetMap with locations of all Grade I listed buildings, Somerset-wide, for which coordinates are included in the list-articles linked below." This will currently be accurate, if and only if all Grade I listed buildings of Somerset, and no other places, are covered in members of Category:Lists_of_Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Somerset.
Questions, comments welcome at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Historic_sites#OSM_mapping_of_all_historic_sites'_coordinates_across_multiple_list-articles,_e.g._historic_sites_in_a_country_or_region.
I hope this tip may be helpful. --Doncram (talk) 17:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Question[edit]
Hi, I was thinking of nominating an article soon, and reviewed a few articles to get a sense of the process, but I was slightly surprised by the length of the backlog. Is this a normal state of affairs? If it isn't, are any measures being taken to reverse the decline? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:14, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: It's longer than normal now; we usually have an end-of-year slump in reviewing for some reason. --PresN 21:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @PresN: Oh ok. Do you think that the lack of an active WikiCup contributes to the end-of-year slump? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:56, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Yearly notice[edit]
Hello everyone. As is usual for me, the next 2+ months will be filled with work in real life, meaning that I'll have less time for FLC-related activities. I've always been able to keep up-to-date with TFL blurbs and should be able to continue doing so, but my FLC closures and the like may be limited. The FLC community has always picked up the slack in my relative absence and I am confident that you will all do so again. Cheers. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Giants2008: Good luck with the season, see you when you get back! --PresN 02:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for keeping things running smoothly. - Dank (push to talk) 02:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
The Core Contest returns![edit]
The Core Contest—Wikipedia's most exciting contest—will take place this year from April 15 to May 31. The goal: to improve vital or other core articles, with a focus on those in the worst state of disrepair. Editing can be done individually, but in the past groups have also successfully competed. There is £300 of prize money divided among editors who provide the "best additive encyclopedic value". Signups are open now. Cheers from the judges, Femke, Casliber, Aza24. – Aza24 (talk) 00:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)