Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter

Icons on Android App interface

Today morning, I was checking the talk page notification message using Android App. It looks like the "Added", "Removed" etc icons are not visible, hence makes the list unclear. Here is a screenshot. Thanks. --Titodutta (talk) 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Hmm. Didn't see this until now. @Titodutta, I presume the same problem has happened with the current newsletter? I'll try and see if I can find a solution (maybe some mobile-specific wikitext can be added). Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:19, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Yup. Have verified that this is still a problem with the Android app specific interface (not the mobile interface). It's strange that the alt text defined doesn't show up instead. It seems to remove all images before showing the content. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:22, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

DS -> CT

I would encourage adding the contentious topics procedure (formerly known as discretionary sanctions) to the list! We don't have a summary of the differences between CT and DS yet, so I suppose it could wait till next month when it's fully implemented in January. But maybe it wouldn't hurt to add it to the newsletter so folks know it's coming. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 10:27, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Added. The newsletter for this month is a bit delayed, and I wouldn't object to another mass message sender finishing up this month's edition and sending out. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 02:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Will finalise and send out now. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 00:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Desysopped admins

Hello, Administrator's Newsletter,

So, you decided not to list the 90+ admins who were desysopped on January 1st? You can find the list on WP:BN. Maybe you could include a link to this in the February issue. It is kind of big deal since there haven't been this many admins desysopped since 2011 when the first inactivity guidelines were imposed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:14, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

@Liz the news covers stuff from the past month. As it was done on January the 1st, this is for next months newsletter. The newsletter should have gone out on the 1st but I wasn't able to press send on the newsletter until now. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 01:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

They are being included in the next issue covering events that occur in January. A special listing format may be needed for a one-off, due to the large size. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

FYI for @Usernamekiran: who was asking about this elsewhere. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:16, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

thanks xaosflux. Instead of adding the entire list in newsletter, we can say "ninety-eight administrators have been desysoped due to inactivity, criteria 2." with appropriate wikilinks, and include this permalink: special:permalink/1130825830#Wikipedia:Inactive administrators/2023#January 2023. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Potentially misleading/confusing distribution phrasing

This newsletter can give the impression that the recipient is an Administrator due to the fact that it's called Administrators' Newsletter and it starts with "News and updates for administrators". This is very easily abusable, particularly with how challenging new (or even less new) users may find it to confirm whether the recipient is an administrator.

Possible changes are making the name "Administration Newsletter" and changing the opening line to "News and updates regarding administration". I note a similar suggestion in the archived discussion "Target readership versus distributed readership" which seemed to be agreed upon but not implemented. Cjhard (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

@Cjhard I don't think there's any issue with non-admins signing up to the newsletter - it's all public information and might be of interest to non-admins. I do think it's helpful to be explicit about the intended audience of the newsletter, though. Calling it the Administrators' Newsletter makes it clear that this newsletter is intended primarily to be useful to administrators, and helps prevent scope creep. Sam Walton (talk) 13:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I didn't mean to suggest non-admins shouldn't sign up for the newsletter. I understand the reasons for calling it "Administrator's Newsletter" however I still maintain that the name causes unnecessary confusion about whether someone is an administrator on this website. I agree that it's important to be explicit about the intended audience of the newsletter, I'm suggesting that this can be achieved without causing confusion about whether the recipient is an administrator. Cjhard (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

RBV22

Could an "advertisement" for a willing admin to close WP:RBV22 be included in the next newsletter if we still don't get a close within March? It's nearing 2 months already. Aaron Liu (talk) 00:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Probably better to bump the request at [[1]] and hope for some eyes. I think the problem is a lot of people who could close probably have voted already. Galobtter (pingó mió) 00:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

That thread is already pretty high up, I can’t just “hope” for some eyes when the thing’s been there and archived once for 20 days (that was only the second thread) Aaron Liu (talk) 11:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

At 120,000+ words I'd be surprised if anyone even could adequately summarise that RfC. Sam Walton (talk) 13:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I think Cessaune’s Support (278) nicely summarizes the support argument, Æo’s write-up in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022/Discussion § Bring back the TOC summarizes the people who like the old TOC, and the wub’s oppose (186) partially summarizes the opposing argument. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

If there is an advertisement, please post a link to Wikipedia:Closure requests § Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Isabelle Belato has come to the task!Aaron Liu (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)