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XFD backlog
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AfD 0 0 0 11 11

On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

How to use this page[edit]

What not to propose for discussion here[edit]

The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

Stub templates
Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
Userboxes
Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
Speedy deletion candidates
If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}.
Policy or guideline templates
Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
Template redirects
List at Redirects for discussion.

Reasons to delete a template[edit]

  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template[edit]

To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. The use of Twinkle (explained below) is strongly recommended, as it automates and simplifies these steps. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:

Note:

  • If the template nominated is inline, do not add a newline between the TfD notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the TfD tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators or Template editors.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code).

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022_August_18#Template:template_name.css */
II: List the template at TfD. Follow this link to edit today's TfD log.

Add this text to the top of the list:

  • For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging: {{subst:Tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without brackets|result of previous TfD}} directly after the Tfd2/Catfd2 template.

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code after the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:Catfd2|category name}}
III: Notify users. Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors[edit]

While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets.

Notifying related WikiProjects[edit]

WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfdnotice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template[edit]

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle[edit]

Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion[edit]

Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Closing discussion[edit]

Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that WP:XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.

Current discussions[edit]

August 18[edit]

Template:SPI[edit]

Mostly unused template without documentation or categories that contains only a header and an SPI page transclusion function. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:India census population[edit]

{{Historical populations}} already exists, and has more features. This sidebar is not necessary. The usages should be converted and this template deleted (or, if wanted, redirected). SWinxy (talk) 00:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 17[edit]

Template:Cablegate timeline[edit]

An unnecessary sidebar that could be integrated into the article's prose. It's only used and linked to once, which is from United States diplomatic cables leak. SWinxy (talk) 23:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Please make the edit to substitute the template into the article before starting a discussion about whether the template is redundant. It may be that the resulting wikitext would be ugly and unmaintainable and keeping the template would be desirable, but that can't be judged until the edit is made. Johnuniq (talk) 23:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Ussc-cite[edit]

Created in 2004, not used since then, and outmoded by {{UnitedStatesCode}} Ductwork (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Office Osawa[edit]

Navbox for a talent agency that has no article since January 2010, under a G8 deletion, and is nothing but a list of actors and actresses that are signed to them. This has no defining navigational aspect. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Maccabiah Games Athletics[edit]

Yearly articles have only one blue link, and even that article is nominated for deletion. To navigate between the main article and the ones in the bottom, "See also" section would be more efficient. Pelmeen10 (talk) 08:25, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose, the template is also useful to prompt editors to create missing articles and to provide a list of Games occurences that included track and field. --Habst (talk) 10:56, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete. Navbars need a couple more blue links to be worth it. SWinxy (talk) 23:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Maccabiah Games Swimming[edit]

Full of red links. The purpose of a template is for easier navigation, which is not necessary with just two articles linked. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:09, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 16[edit]

Template:Omega X, Template:NTX (group) and Template:ILY:1[edit]

No albums, no singles, no members with articles. No improvement to navigation. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:12, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Rosalynn Carter series[edit]

Contains four links outside of the main subject and redundant in comparison to the navbox, Template:Rosalynn Carter. There's no need for a sidebar when a navbox is doing the job already. Two templates for the same purpose are not useful. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:11, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Perfumerías Avenida roster[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:36, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Single-use. Substitute on CB Avenida. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Club Deportivo Promete roster[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:33, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Used on the wrong articles and no mainspace article for this template to be substituted on. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Delete This is used only on individual sportsperson articles where the whole roster is excessive and does not belong. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:27, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Casademont Zaragoza women's roster[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused roster list. Outdated as the main article, Basket Zaragoza has an up to date list as part of the article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:04, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Boston Patriots Hall of Famers[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused with only one link and redundant to Template:PatriotsHOF. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:53, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Cresta series[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 01:30, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unused navbox with no mainspace article for the topic. There is no Cresta series that I could find that matches with the games listed. Other than the similarity of the titles. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:48, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

Template:Fearless Records[edit]

Two links outside of the main article. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Citation DLR 2013-15[edit]

Unused citation template. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Starship timeline[edit]

Unused timeline chart. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/List of web directories[edit]

Per guidance at WP:CSC Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the near future. So, this notice forbidding all redlinks is in complete violation of guidance. I found it by clicking on the edit button of List of web directories, but the transclusions link above doesn't show it links to anything. As a side note, the criteria listed on the talk page also points exactly to CSC #1 guidance which allows the redlinks provided they have citations... Huggums537 (talk) 18:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok, I just remembered why I went for outright deletion, and not just a discussion about amending redlinks. It is because the template also calls for every entry in the list to have a Wikipedia article against guidance, and there is probably just too much to amend here. The only guidance that allows for just Wikipedia articles only is WP:LISTPEOPLE, and this list is not about people. Establishing a list based on "Wikipedia articles only" violates WP:SELFREF, WP:CIRCULAR, MOS:OVERLINK, or more like MOS:SEAOFBLUE and WP:Blue Sea with a sea of blue, plus is not encyclopedic since it doesn't allow other notable entries such as redlinks, redirects, or other plain text notable mentions. There was also no prior consensus for restricting the list to "just Wikipedia articles only". There is a big difference between some of the suggestions for a "notable list", and that of a "Wikipedia articles only". Huggums537 (talk) 19:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Delete or ammend to be compliant because I failed to mention that in my nomination. Huggums537 (talk) 18:39, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep This list does appear to be prone to people spamming non-notable web directories, so the edit notice is helpful. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:24, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I understand the notice is helpful, but it isn't compliant with guidance. It either needs to be amended so it can be helpful in a way that is compliant, or deleted. Huggums537 (talk) 05:38, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    One way it could be made compliant is to say something like, "non-notable redlinks/unlinked entries will be removed", but out right banning of them is illegal. Huggums537 (talk) 05:44, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep The list receives a fair amount of spam, therefore the notice. -- Alexf(talk) 19:39, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Alexf I would be willing to withdraw nomination if you can amend template in a manner that makes it compliant similar as I described in above comment. Huggums537 (talk) 09:55, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Huggums537: A removal would be an invitation to spam. These lists attract them like flies. I stand by my comment. -- Alexf(talk)
    If it doesn't get removed we are still going to have the discussion about making it compliant, so we might as well just make it easier, and discuss making it compliant now. I would have discussed that first, but the thought didn't occur to me until we started this deletion discussion. Huggums537 (talk) 15:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    This discussion, if it closes as keep, will have established a consensus that this specific list should not contain red links. There's no need to "make [the edit notice] compliant" with some other guideline. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:27, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I disagree, and think it will only establish that it shouldn't be deleted. But, I guess that depends on what gets discussed, doesn't it? Huggums537 (talk) 18:13, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I also don't think that an admin should be enabling consensus over-riding a compliant notice when there isn't any evidence whatsoever a compliant notice is any less of a deterrent or that that there was really any consensus for the uncompliant notice in the first place considering all the significant objections, and alternative solutions in the talk history as well as the continuous insertions of redlinks throughout the entire page history. Huggums537 (talk) 18:46, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I understand it is true most of the redlinks are spam, but a few are being removed just because the red no-no says so. I'm convinced all you higher ups are all so scared that if we allow one red link then we will have to allow them all, but your fears are unreasonable, and unjustified. If you don't think you will be able to control, and manage things fairly within the proper guidance, then maybe you should all reconsider calling yourselves higher ups. I have taken note that maybe I stumbled into something I wasn't supposed to because I noticed the list to what links here had like 50 members before I started this discussion, and now it is down to 7, but I hope 41 people are watching things, and will give some thought to what I am talking about. Huggums537 (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Three Worlds Cycle[edit]

All entries redirected. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Obama family tree[edit]

Family tree chart which is primarily article content in template navbox space. Obama is single-use, but the Michelle template is being used across several articles but is not a standard navigational box. Both should be substituted in a collapsible format on Family of Barack Obama as part of the article and not through template transclusion. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:38, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose: Well the Obama one could be subst-ed (makes no difference, why bother to change it) but the Michelle one is quite logically being reused, and there is no reason at all why a family tree should be "a standard navigational box": a family tree's function is not primarily navigation, and the fact that this one has multiple applications already says quite clearly that subst-ing it and then letting each version diverge is definitely a no-no - that's a very good reason for having a template. The suggestion that both should be made collapsible is actually undesirable if it means collapsed-by-default; if it means providing a "hide" button, well, that can easily be done with a family tree or any other box for that matter. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:16, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If the Michelle Obama template was logically used, it would be contain links in a list like any other navbox, but this isn't doing that. I don't see the point in having a separate navbox for her family which is just a tree chart when such charts are used on article spaces or if on template space it doesn't have the navbox style or format. A navbox for her can be created as there enough articles under her category and subcats which would logically include her family that have their own articles. And yes I mean collapsed by default with the option of show and hide on the article itself. And Wikipedia:Template namespace makes it clear on single-use and template storing article content very clear which is what these two are respectively in violation of a standard and widely accepted practice on Wikipedia. Hence my nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 15[edit]

Template:Military coups in Armenia[edit]

Only one article is considered to be a coup attempt even alleged and it's the 2021 Armenian political crisis. But the other two articles are not classified as such. This template is complete OR alleging coups occurred in Armenia when there haven't been any. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Colored list[edit]

Useless template that violates MOS:COLOR and is used only in College of Science, University of Tehran, Housing Foundation of Islamic Revolution, User:Eddy UwU/sandbox, Template:HTML lists, and Template:Medical cases chart/doc. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 02:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

delete, the inclusion of telephone and fax numbers is also bad per WP:DIRECTORY (removed [1] and [2]). Frietjes (talk) 14:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 14[edit]

Template:United States federal executive orders[edit]

Propose merging Template:United States federal executive orders with Template:United States federal executive actions.
Both templates contain the same links for the respective from President McKinley to Biden, "List of executive actions by" and then the name of the respective President. There are no articles for each president just for their executive orders. Thus, having the executive orders template is redundant in comparison to the action navbox. We have two navboxes for one purpose. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Infobox Negro League franchise[edit]

Propose merging Template:Infobox Negro League franchise with Template:Infobox baseball team.
Renomination after edits for {{Infobox baseball team}} have been restored. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:44, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skilgis1900, NatureBoyMD, GoodDay, WikiCleanerMan, Bison X, and Pigsonthewing: Pinging participants of previous discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment - Do we have an infobox template for "Major League Baseball"? GoodDay (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:08, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Repeat of comment Thank you for pinging me. At the previous TfD I asked Consistency is fine, but why merge into Template:Infobox baseball team and not Template:Infobox MLB? Curious about that rationale. I still would prefer merging into the MLB infobox rather than the proposed baseball team infobox. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Currently, only current MLB teams use {{Infobox MLB}}, so former MLB teams like Montreal Expos and Brooklyn Dodgers use {{Infobox baseball team}}. I think further down the road the two templates could and should align closer, but right now that's how the two are used. So even if we were to grant Negro league teams "Major league" status, they would still resort to using {{Infobox baseball team}} per above reasoning for now. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose The Negro Leagues are different from any other baseball league as are their teams. Hence why there is a separate box for MLB teams and one for the Negro Leagues. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Actually, it's just an infobox template & no reader would know any difference. It's just a matter of formatting & appropriate parameters can be adjusted to handle a Negro league franchise. In my case, I just prefer the formatting of the MLB infobox over the proposed baseball team infobox. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 02:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 11:53, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 13[edit]

Template:Footer USA Track & Field 2022 NACAC Championships[edit]

A national team for an event that does not have an own article. Single use template, with that use looks out of scope. The Banner talk 19:19, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

S-line templates[edit]

No longer needed with the phasing out of the S-line template format. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

delete, and adding the associated color/line/stations templates for some. Frietjes (talk) 18:39, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:NOAA Official website[edit]

Unused and not the link to the main page of the official website. Don't see the need for this to be linked through template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:25, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Jokerit roster[edit]

Unused and blanked back in June. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Whatever happens the page will have to be re-instated or re-created when Jokerit return from hiatus in 2023. Triggerbit (talk) 15:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Cadastre[edit]

Violates Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikidata Phase 2 and inappropriately stores article text in a template. Both of these problems appear to be inherent to the way the template is designed and not fixable. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The problem is maintenance. When you look at the article of Rudersdorf, you will see the mayor is Franz Eduard Tauss. But the article of de:Rudersdorf and the Website of Rudersdorf [3] say that Manuel Weber is mayor (german: "Bürgermeister"). The module Module:Austria should become a module for all this austrian stuff, to keep all austrian articles up to date. Not only in en:WP but in all foreign language WPs. --Supertona (talk) 14:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Infobox Odissi raga[edit]

Single use template, see Dhanasri The Banner talk 14:20, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Slonczewski JL, Foster JW, Foster E. Microbiology: An Evolving Science 5th Ed. WW Norton & Company; 2020.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 10:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Single-use citation template. Substitute on article used. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:Trazere Universe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 10:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Two links and no mainspace for Trazere Universe exists. Can't aid in navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Template:2022–23 in Indian football[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:42, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just text. Not needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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August 12[edit]

Template:University of Texas at Brownsville presidents[edit]

One link. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Verbandsliga Schleswig-Holstein-Nord-Ost[edit]

Only one link. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:27, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:NCCAA Division I East navbox[edit]

No longer needed as the DI East merged into Division I Midwest per this edit and it's inclusion in Template:NCCAA Division I Midwest navbox. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:KK Cibona current roster[edit]

Four links and out-of-date. Fails NENAN, regardless. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:14, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Jeonju KCC Egis current roster[edit]

An out-of-date roster navbox with only a few articles on Wikipedia for the players who are on the active roster of the team. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Ibn Hisham al-Ansari books[edit]

Only one of the linked articles exists, and all the others are redlinks. Until the other Ibn Hisham al-Ansari books also have articles created, there is no need for this navbox. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:58, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:María Elena Velasco[edit]

Only one link. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:10, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Killerfish Games[edit]

Two links. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:09, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Bass Drum of Death[edit]

Fails NENAN. All links are already linked on the band's main article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 11[edit]

Template:Political Divisions of Mexico[edit]

A map of Mexico's subdivision accompanied with a list below. This is purely article content on template space. Not needed as List of states of Mexico already does the job this template intends to do. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:18, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Modern Rock Radio Stations in Georgia[edit]

One link and one redirect. Fails navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:13, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Insignia of UK/CDT/GVCAC[edit]

Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Sandbox/Gramme[edit]

no longer functional, and only used on one talk page Frietjes (talk) 16:09, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:DPR Korea Women's Premier League[edit]

only redlinks + 1 bit of grey text Dutchy45 (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Heads of government of monarchies[edit]

Contravenes all 5 principles of Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Navigation templates: this is not a coherent topic, in that reliable sources do not usually group these people into a category; the subject of the template is not mentioned in the articles; the articles do not frequently refer to each other; there is no article on the topic (nor should there be); and editors would not usually link these topics in a see also section. DrKay (talk) 13:31, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I really do not think it will work, please delete per request as soon as possible. I only created these templates as a sort of an experiment to see if the template is useful or not because if there are templates dedicated to monarchs, why not make one for heads of government of monarchies. I was going to ask an admin to delete in the first place since it may not work. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 14:37, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment The template creator asked me on my talk page to delete these three templates, but unfortunately I can't, since I am not an administrator and the three templates are ineligible for G7 speedy deletion due to other people contributing to it. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:21, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:53, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Old discussions[edit]

August 9

Template:INFOBOX INDCONST

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Unused and unclear what the benefit is over Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency or Template:Infobox Lok Sabha Constituency. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Keep, Template:INFOBOX INDCONST is used to substitute the full template of Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency while using an AWB or during manual edit. Substituting Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency gives unnecessary extra bits thats need to be cleaned up. --Venkat TL (talk) 06:13, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Delete. If the base template has an issue, fix it. If the copy/paste in the documenation of the base template has an issue, fix it. What not to do is create a template with an unclear name with no documentation. Gonnym (talk) 13:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Special:Diff/1102475255 shows the result of {{subst:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency}}. Now compare this with Special:Diff/1102475526 when you use {{subst:INFOBOX INDCONST}}. @Gonnym @WikiCleanerMan, @MPGuy2824, I dont know how to fix it. I am not sure if this is even fixable. I just want to get the work done and hence this came as an obvious solution till someone finds a better one. I request the admin to not delete this until a viable alternative to do the same thing is made available. I think this deletion nomination is going overboard and deleting stuff that are useful and actively being used without any clear policy basis for deletion. Venkat TL (talk) 07:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Venkat, see Special:Diff/1102478636 which shows the results of {{subst:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency/sandbox}}. Please test it out yourself. I'll test it out more tomorrow and if seems fine, I'll make the same changes on Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency. The problems was that the Template wasn't designed to be substituted. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed I figured out the "Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency" was not made for substitution, which is why I made one for doing just that. The infobox is used on 5,000+ pages, so we need to be careful about editing the infobox template. This deletion of Template:INFOBOX INDCONST is unnecessarily disruptive. @MPGuy2824 The comparison is at Special:Diff/1102475526/1102503945, I think the comments should be substituted, they help the editors. Venkat TL (talk) 11:30, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Some things don't need fixes. Some things don't need to exist. Not every template needs to have a subst version. Just use the infobox like it should. Gonnym (talk) 12:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
According to what Wikipedia policy? Venkat TL (talk) 12:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The substitution template saves time in searching and saves 7-8 clicks needed to copy paste, allows AWB usage too. These are significant benefits in keeping this template. Venkat TL (talk) 08:34, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  • Either delete or subpage of Venkat's. If it's useful to him, I see no reason to remove it, but I do see quite a reason not to have it in main template space. --Izno (talk) 02:15, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 8

Template:Editnotices/Page/Michael Jackson

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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 02:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This template has not been edited since 2010. It was probably necessary at the time, but I don't think it is relevant anymore. Interstellarity (talk) 12:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:23, 24 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Keep Michael Jackson articles have remained controversial. The WP:GS/MJ are still in place, and like last month or so somebody got into trouble on ANI regarding Jackson-related edits. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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  • Isn't it normal to make the pagenotice be the GS notice ({{Gs/editnotice}})? It seems like it should be the GS notice. SWinxy (talk) 23:48, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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