Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Article topics
The following discussions related to article topics are requested to have community-wide attention: ()
Biographies[edit]
| Should the following subsection about Assange publishing a report into the 2006 Ivory Coast toxic waste dump be included in the article, beneath "early publications" in the section "WikiLeaks"? Cambial — foliar❧ 14:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
In reference to the January 6 United States Capitol attack, the Donald Trump article currently says, According to the Department of Justice, more than 140 police officers were injured, and five people, including a Capitol Police officer, died.
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| How narrowly to read 'city' of birth/death?The infoboxes of Pearl Mackie, Peter Hawkins, Danny Kirwan, and Tony Sewell, Baron Sewell of Sanderstead read "Born... Brixton, London, England". For a short while, so did the infobox for David Bowie; then "Brixton" was removed from that last infobox, on the grounds that only a "city" should be named, and Brixton is not a city (though it has a larger population than 17 of the USA's state capitals, and in-real-life form fields marked "city" are routinely filled in with names of other place-types – town, village, etc. – where appropriate). How narrowly should that word "city" be read? This has been discussed by @Bretonbanquet and Nikkimaria: and me, at User talk:Nikkimaria#David Bowie. Should template documentation be changed? Or some other clarification be sought? How say you all? – .Raven .talk 01:23, 2 June 2023 (UTC) |
Regarding the issue surrounding the reports, which previously did not achieve a consensus, three options are proposed:
Thank you, Simón, el Silbón (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube
| In 2023, is Deji Olatunji notable enough to be removed from WP:DEEPER and have a Wikipedia biography? Is Deji notable enough for an article in 2023? DrewieStewie (talk) 21:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Now that this person's recent death is confirmed, shall Maharis's 1970s arrest be reinserted? George Ho (talk) 00:39, 29 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the first sentence of the article say that Assange is a "prisoner fighting extradition to the US" or something like this? Jack Upland (talk) 05:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Celia Rose Gooding has expressed via Twitter ([1]) and Instagram ([2]) a preference for both she and they pronouns. Which pronouns should Wikipedia use when talking about Gooding? 22:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
| The page has been largely expanded recently by a single editor. Should the previous stable version be restored? D.Lazard (talk) 15:13, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
Economy, trade, and companies[edit]
History and geography[edit]
In reference to the January 6 United States Capitol attack, the Donald Trump article currently says, According to the Department of Justice, more than 140 police officers were injured, and five people, including a Capitol Police officer, died.
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| Should the lede state the Sultanate is A. Harla B. Harari C. Somali D. Afar or E. none of the above? Magherbin (talk) 11:54, 5 June 2023 (UTC) |
| Should we say the battle is over, and that Russia has won? Slatersteven (talk) 17:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
Talk:Durham special counsel investigation
Should the current lead sentence...
be amended to include this bold content...
This question is rooted in what Charlie Savage exclusively reported in The New York Times:
This matter has been previously discussed in this Talk thread. soibangla (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2023 (UTC) |
Regarding the issue surrounding the reports, which previously did not achieve a consensus, three options are proposed:
Thank you, Simón, el Silbón (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the maps of Suriname include the disputed areas?--Jerome Frank Disciple 12:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should we add an infobox after this discussion above, and per previous edit. 112.204.206.165 (talk) 05:22, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should this article include text about the "heckling of President Obama"[4] Andre🚐 15:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
Should the following paragraph be included in the article?
Wes sideman(talk) 13:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
Talk:2001 insurgency in Macedonia
| Should we say in wikivoice that about 150 mujahideen participated in the conflict on the side of NLA or use the wording "There have been claims that..."? Alaexis¿question? 18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC) |
| As discussed previously, in the edit request above, i propose the re-addition of the full lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner" to this article.
Users @Binksternet and @Magnolia677 have removed all but the first stanza of the US national anthem. The guideline they cited, WP:NOTLYRICS has a clear exception for songs such as national anthems, which this article is about. When justifying their edits, Magnolia677 stated that their concern was that the full lyrics were 32 lines long, ignoring the pages of longer anthems, such as those of Turkey's İstiklal Marşı (40 lines) and Italy's Il Canto degli Italiani (48 lines not counting chorus) among others. The question is, should the full lyrics be included in the article, or not? Use the Support template if yes, and the Oppose template if no. Should the consensus be in favor of re-addition, the lyrics will be re-added to the article, either by me or another editor. If you're not sure about your opinion, but want to support or oppose, consult the appropriate policies for advice. Thanks for reading and discussing. 179.54.211.52 (talk) 17:28, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
Template talk:Infobox settlement
| 1. Can the "native_name" parameter be used to display an alternative placename that is used by First Nations peoples?
2. If so, should this only apply to places where said First Nations people are the dominant ethnic group? Poketama (talk) 10:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
Language and linguistics[edit]
There's a longstanding dispute between me and User:Nihil novi at Talk:Poetry#"Poetry" lead illustration on whether to include picture in the lead, which hasn't been resolved in 7 months. So, I will let the community decide:
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Template talk:Infobox settlement
| 1. Can the "native_name" parameter be used to display an alternative placename that is used by First Nations peoples?
2. If so, should this only apply to places where said First Nations people are the dominant ethnic group? Poketama (talk) 10:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Hi, folks. I'm requesting for input from editors on the English Wikipedia about the inclusion of the Philippines on Spanish linguistic maps (isoglosses), and whether or not the country should be included. --Sky Harbor (talk) 19:43, 12 May 2023 (UTC) |
Maths, science, and technology[edit]
| Should the current image be replaced? Consensus is needed on the most appropriate image to use as the main image in this article. The current image shows a glass building facade; it is a Quality image, used when the article was promoted to GA, and is instantly recognisable as glass of the most common and widespread type. However, it has been criticized as an oversimplification of what glass is and a somewhat corporate and "generic picture". An alternative has been proposed which shows a glass figurine being manufactured; while it might be less recognisable it shows glass in it's 'raw' form in both the molten and solid-state, indicating how glass can be used to make a variety of products and forms. The two images under discussion are provided below.
Main image options
Best wishes, Polyamorph (talk) 07:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the note that is currently appended to the "failures" entry in the infobox be kept, or should it be removed? DASL51984 (Speak to me!) 20:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC) |
Art, architecture, literature, and media[edit]
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube
| In 2023, is Deji Olatunji notable enough to be removed from WP:DEEPER and have a Wikipedia biography? Is Deji notable enough for an article in 2023? DrewieStewie (talk) 21:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
There's a longstanding dispute between me and User:Nihil novi at Talk:Poetry#"Poetry" lead illustration on whether to include picture in the lead, which hasn't been resolved in 7 months. So, I will let the community decide:
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| At the time of this RfC, the article includes a sentence covering how PragerU profited off a video of theirs that contained anti-LGBT content.
There exists three sources for this content that have been discussed thus far, Media Matters, Washington Blade, Columbia Journalism Review. After intense debate above, it was work-shopped into three proposals: Option A:Option B:
Option C: Leave it out entirely. 17:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the current image be replaced? Consensus is needed on the most appropriate image to use as the main image in this article. The current image shows a glass building facade; it is a Quality image, used when the article was promoted to GA, and is instantly recognisable as glass of the most common and widespread type. However, it has been criticized as an oversimplification of what glass is and a somewhat corporate and "generic picture". An alternative has been proposed which shows a glass figurine being manufactured; while it might be less recognisable it shows glass in it's 'raw' form in both the molten and solid-state, indicating how glass can be used to make a variety of products and forms. The two images under discussion are provided below.
Main image options
Best wishes, Polyamorph (talk) 07:54, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Video games
| This RfC seeks to address whether the review aggregator OpenCritic should be adopted alongside Metacritic, our current standard. The last RfC from 2017 concluded that, at the time, OpenCritic was not cited by enough reliable sources to justify its inclusion, in addition to concerns that its average scores were too similar to Metacritic's (creating a redundancy problem). The issue has cropped up again from time to time and there seems to be agreement amongst editors that the situation has changed enough to warrant another RfC.
One point of contention is that OpenCritic has become far more mainstream. Video Games Chronicle regularly cites OpenCritic (examples: [5][6][7]), its ranking of a certain game attracted considerable attention in sources considered reliable at WP:VG/S recently (examples: [8], [9], [10], [11]), and both Epic Games Store ([12]) and GOG.com ([13]) have integrated it into game listings. It is safe to say that the situation regarding OpenCritic's presence in reliable sources is not the same as it was in 2017. Another common point of contention concerns the site's Critics Recommend metric, which is a different form of measurement from the averages that Metacritic and OpenCritic itself provide. Rather than averaging review scores, Critics Recommend designates reviews as positive or negative and uses them to provide a percentage, similar to Rotten Tomatoes' Tomatometer. A 2021 discussion regarding incorporating this metric specifically ended in no consensus, although by headcount a narrow majority of editors supported the proposal. JOEBRO64 14:13, 26 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should Wanda Maximoff be referred to as Wanda or Mazimoff? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Is the content below suitable for being the lead of the Wikipedia article?
Wikipedia[note 1] is a multilingual crowdsourced online encyclopedia. The content on Wikipedia is available without charge and is distributed under free content licenses (CC BY 3.0 and GDFL for texts), allowing for widespread use and furthering its goal of democratizing knowledge. At its core, Wikipedia aims to cover any topic that is above a notability threshold, based on external reliable sources, and its content must not contain original research by its editors. Wikipedia is available in 333 languages and features a total of 61 million articles across all languages. Among them, the most popular language edition is the English Wikipedia with 6,665,795 articles. Wikipedia as a whole is the most widely read reference work in history.[3][4] Almost all articles on Wikipedia are available for editing by registered editors and visitors. These articles are collectively written via a wiki system; as such articles on Wikipedia generally provide more up-to-date information and have a wider range in reliability than paper encyclopedias. Though the Wikipedia community is popularly known by its anarchical structure, the community has adopted elements of democratic and bureaucratic systems, as demonstrated by the establishment of user rights, policies, guidelines, and the final avenue of dispute resolution – the Arbitration Committee. Wikipedia was launched by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger on January 15, 2001, as a publicly editable encyclopedia initially associated with Nupedia. Both of these projects were owned by the Bomis company. As Wikipedia became increasingly more popular than Nupedia, its website experienced a rapid growth in content, editors, and language availability. In 2003, Wikipedia was transitioned from a commercial to a non-profit encyclopedia and is now hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation, based in the United States. Around late 2000s, as Wikipedia became one of the most visited websites in the world, the number of active editors reached its peak and has since remained stable.[5] Throughout its existence, Wikipedia consistently faced concerns about its reliability, systemic bias and its editor base, though over time the website began to be viewed more positively, largely due to the overall improvement in the quality of its articles. – CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 05:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Celia Rose Gooding has expressed via Twitter ([14]) and Instagram ([15]) a preference for both she and they pronouns. Which pronouns should Wikipedia use when talking about Gooding? 22:19, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Music
| I see two major problems with Larkin's ratings system (at least in the context of Wikipedia):
1) He does not "score" albums out of five in the style of a Rolling Stone or Record Mirror. The Encyclopedia of Popular Music states that Larkin and his team's system is "different to most 5 star ratings in that we rate according to the artist in question's work. Therefore, a 4 star album from the Beatles will have the overall edge over a 4 star album by Chicory Tip." This makes Larkin's ratings incongruent with other scores included in scores boxes on album articles, as he could conceivably hold X's 1-star album to be as accomplished as Y's 5-star album. 2) Larkin's system is inherently non-objective. By his own admission, his ratings are influenced by "review ratings of the credible music journals and critics' opinions". As well as leaning on the opinions of others, what is "credible", is of course, highly subjective. I don't see any issue with Wikipedia continuing to use Larkin's prose, but I believe it should be written into the music Manual of Style that we avoid his album ratings. Hopefully this will foster some discussion. Thanks. 81.157.51.237 (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
| As discussed previously, in the edit request above, i propose the re-addition of the full lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner" to this article.
Users @Binksternet and @Magnolia677 have removed all but the first stanza of the US national anthem. The guideline they cited, WP:NOTLYRICS has a clear exception for songs such as national anthems, which this article is about. When justifying their edits, Magnolia677 stated that their concern was that the full lyrics were 32 lines long, ignoring the pages of longer anthems, such as those of Turkey's İstiklal Marşı (40 lines) and Italy's Il Canto degli Italiani (48 lines not counting chorus) among others. The question is, should the full lyrics be included in the article, or not? Use the Support template if yes, and the Oppose template if no. Should the consensus be in favor of re-addition, the lyrics will be re-added to the article, either by me or another editor. If you're not sure about your opinion, but want to support or oppose, consult the appropriate policies for advice. Thanks for reading and discussing. 179.54.211.52 (talk) 17:28, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
Politics, government, and law[edit]
| Should the three past elections contested by this current U.S. presidential candidate be presented in the form of Election Results tables using Template:Election box (e.g. [16]), or, should they be removed and replaced with this sentence: "Castro contested several elections, but didn't succeed." Chetsford (talk) 14:40, 7 June 2023 (UTC) |
| Does the reference in the infobox for social liberalism comply with Wikipedia guidelines and specifically WP:SYNTH? Helper201 (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2023 (UTC) |
What is the reliability of La Patilla?
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In reference to the January 6 United States Capitol attack, the Donald Trump article currently says, According to the Department of Justice, more than 140 police officers were injured, and five people, including a Capitol Police officer, died.
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| Should we say the battle is over, and that Russia has won? Slatersteven (talk) 17:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC) |
Talk:Durham special counsel investigation
Should the current lead sentence...
be amended to include this bold content...
This question is rooted in what Charlie Savage exclusively reported in The New York Times:
This matter has been previously discussed in this Talk thread. soibangla (talk) 15:47, 2 June 2023 (UTC) |
Regarding the issue surrounding the reports, which previously did not achieve a consensus, three options are proposed:
Thank you, Simón, el Silbón (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2023 (UTC) |
| At the time of this RfC, the article includes a sentence covering how PragerU profited off a video of theirs that contained anti-LGBT content.
There exists three sources for this content that have been discussed thus far, Media Matters, Washington Blade, Columbia Journalism Review. After intense debate above, it was work-shopped into three proposals: Option A:Option B:
Option C: Leave it out entirely. 17:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums
| How should party colours (as stored in (e.g.) Module:Political party/A and used in infoboxes, results tables etc) be determined? By the dominant colour of the logo or via colours used for the party in the media. Number 57 10:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the maps of Suriname include the disputed areas?--Jerome Frank Disciple 12:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should the first sentence of the article say that Assange is a "prisoner fighting extradition to the US" or something like this? Jack Upland (talk) 05:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Which of the two article versions do you conider more NPOV from a global (non-US-centric) perspective? Special:Diff/1155967719 or Special:Diff/1132451253?
[Edit: these are additional questions not compulsory to the RFC] Could the two be combined into something that is more NPOV than either? Where do you see the NPOV issues in the two versions? ShabbyHoose (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should this article include text about the "heckling of President Obama"[18] Andre🚐 15:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
Talk:List of guests at the coronation of Charles III and Camilla
| How should MOS:JOBTITLE be applied to this page? Should peers be listed under their name and title or title alone? A.D.Hope (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
| Should a link to Crime in Serbia be included as a ″see also″ entry under the section ″Law and criminal justice″? --TylerBurden (talk) 19:03, 14 May 2023 (UTC) |
Religion and philosophy[edit]
| This is a request for comment on whether the Orthodox Baháʼí Faith should be included in the see also section of the Baháʼí Faith article. The Orthodox Baháʼí Faith is a Baha'i sect that believes in the continuation of the Guardianship of the Baháʼí Faith after Shoghi Effendi. The mainstream Baháʼís consider them as Covenant-breakers and do not recognize their legitimacy. The dispute is about whether the link to the Orthodox Baháʼí Faith Wikipedia page is relevant and notable enough to be included in the see also section. The discussion on the talk page has reached an impasse, with one editor arguing for inclusion and another editor arguing for removal. Please provide your opinions on this issue and help resolve this dispute. Thank you.--Asad29591 (talk) 01:30, 11 May 2023 (UTC) |
Society, sports, and culture[edit]
What is the reliability of La Patilla?
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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports/Handling sports transactions
| Frequently, contracts between sports teams and players/coaches are leaked to media outlets before they are officially announced.
This essay is often invoked to keep any mention of these reported details out of articles until the signing is officially announced [19], and articles are protected to prevent new editors from adding the information. For examples: [20] [21] This RfC is to determine if the following line should be altered:
I would propose revising it to read like this:
This change would codify and encourage Wikipedians old and new to cover what reliable sources will often widely report, but in a non-crystally way that communicates the uncertainty. An example of how that could look is in Monty Williams' article. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 00:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube
| In 2023, is Deji Olatunji notable enough to be removed from WP:DEEPER and have a Wikipedia biography? Is Deji notable enough for an article in 2023? DrewieStewie (talk) 21:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC) |
| At the time of this RfC, the article includes a sentence covering how PragerU profited off a video of theirs that contained anti-LGBT content.
There exists three sources for this content that have been discussed thus far, Media Matters, Washington Blade, Columbia Journalism Review. After intense debate above, it was work-shopped into three proposals: Option A:Option B:
Option C: Leave it out entirely. 17:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC) |
| This article from the Chicago Tribune describes and reviews an Opera performance titled "The Walkers" that was written about this organisation, a performance also discussed by its creator in this source from the Washington Post.
Should this Opera receive mention in this article about the organisation on which the Opera was based? 08:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC) |
Talk:List of guests at the coronation of Charles III and Camilla
| How should MOS:JOBTITLE be applied to this page? Should peers be listed under their name and title or title alone? A.D.Hope (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC) |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision
| Does the standardised format of the yearly contest articles need to be altered? A.D.Hope (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2023 (UTC) |
| As discussed previously, in the edit request above, i propose the re-addition of the full lyrics to "The Star-Spangled Banner" to this article.
Users @Binksternet and @Magnolia677 have removed all but the first stanza of the US national anthem. The guideline they cited, WP:NOTLYRICS has a clear exception for songs such as national anthems, which this article is about. When justifying their edits, Magnolia677 stated that their concern was that the full lyrics were 32 lines long, ignoring the pages of longer anthems, such as those of Turkey's İstiklal Marşı (40 lines) and Italy's Il Canto degli Italiani (48 lines not counting chorus) among others. The question is, should the full lyrics be included in the article, or not? Use the Support template if yes, and the Oppose template if no. Should the consensus be in favor of re-addition, the lyrics will be re-added to the article, either by me or another editor. If you're not sure about your opinion, but want to support or oppose, consult the appropriate policies for advice. Thanks for reading and discussing. 179.54.211.52 (talk) 17:28, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
Template talk:Infobox settlement
| 1. Can the "native_name" parameter be used to display an alternative placename that is used by First Nations peoples?
2. If so, should this only apply to places where said First Nations people are the dominant ethnic group? Poketama (talk) 10:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
- ^ Pronounced /ˌwɪkɪˈpiːdiə/ (
listen) wik-ih-PEE-dee-ə or /ˌwɪki-/ (listen) wik-ee-
- ^ Hague, Euan; Beirich, Heidi; Sebesta, Edward H. (15 September 2009). Neo-Confederacy: A Critical Introduction. University of Texas Press. p. 29. ISBN 978-0-292-77921-1. Retrieved 4 May 2023.
- ^ Omi, Michael; Winant, Howard (20 June 2014). Racial Formation in the United States. Routledge. p. 260. ISBN 978-1-135-12751-0. Retrieved 4 May 2023.
- ^ Cohen, Noam (February 9, 2014). "Wikipedia vs. the Small Screen". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2022-11-09. Retrieved 2023-01-22.
- ^ "Wikistats – Statistics For Wikimedia Projects". Wikimedia Foundation. Retrieved November 18, 2020.
- ^ Mandiberg, Michael (February 23, 2020). "Mapping Wikipedia". The Atlantic. Archived from the original on November 15, 2021. Retrieved November 26, 2021.