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Athens[edit]

I'm just curious as to see how this article has come along since I've done a lot of editing on it. Is there any section that needs expanding, shortening, change of location on the page. I'm just looking for what else needs to be improved with the page overall. Maybe then I can put it up for GA or FA. El Greco 19:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Konstable[edit]

Haven't quite read through the whole thing, so might add more later, but here we go:

  • The History section does not quite follow the WP:SUMMARY style. While it is good that you moved the bulk into its own article it would be nice to see some sort of a brief summary of history (though of course with a city like Athens, even a brief summary could become quite long).
  • Historical population section is a bit strange. There is no context, it just gives statistics.
  • I think it would be useful to have some more info on Geography. What is there already is short and refers to another city Los Angeles, of which I know almost nothing, so this reference is not all that useful.
  • I am not sure if this is significant, but I remember hearing about Athens' polution problems, and in particular acid rain damaging historic landmarks - which is not really mentioned in the articles.
  • I would recommend you try to get more "solid" sources - most of the citations are web links.
  • There are a lot of unreferenced blocks, including a lot of un-attributed statistics.
  • If you haven't already had a look, you might find it helpful to glance through articles on other cities that have already achieved FA status: WP:FA#Geography and places

Hope that helps.--Konstable 12:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So I've decided to remove the historical population section, as anything you write about the population might as well be in the whole population section. Though I will keep the chart. I'll see what I can do about the History of Athens section, but I try to avoid that section sometimes. I don't know what to put in, how much or what should or shouldn't be included. You look at the History of Athens page and it's huge. Trying to summarize that will atleast give you a large section, but I'll see what I can do with that. I'm also currently looking for information on the geography of Athens, and it pollution problems. I understand what you mean by "solid" sources, but if the information is only avaliable online, do I need solid source then or are the online sources fine? Some of those online sources lead to print material. The Athens transportation figures for example are linked to PDF files, because that is how they are only avaliable. So, is that fine or do I still need a hard/solid source? And one more question. Those section that I have sourced so far, are they sourced enough, or do they still need more references? El Greco 23:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]