Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hinako (anime character)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep but perhaps merge to Isshoni Training. That can be discussed further elsewhere. – Joe (talk) 00:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Hinako (anime character)[edit]
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The character fails WP:Notability. The only sources listed in the article are either primary sources or promotional articles published in English. Furthermore, the series that Hinako appears in are also non-notable. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (Disclaimer: I am the creator of this article.) I disagree with the assessment that "the only sources listed in the article are either primary sources or promotional articles". I do not know if the citations for the home video releases count as primary, I guess they could count as such. Citation No. 5 is primary, I agree, as it is an interview, but citing an interview for information about the production of a work seems okay to me, even if it can't be used for establishing notability. Citation No. 23 could also count as primary, although I guess a non-primary source for that may exist? I do not see which of the other sources count as primary. WP:PRIMARY says "Primary sources are original materials that are close to an event, and are often accounts written by people who are directly involved". I do not think any of the other cited sources were written by people associated with Primastea or Studio Hibari, the two production companies behind the three OVAs. So I think the sources can be used for establishing notability. Regarding the promotional part: I do not think the secondary sources are particularly promotional. Citation No. 7, for example, is rather critical of the work in question. Also, regarding " the series that Hinako appears in are also non-notable": this is a primary reason why I created an article about the main character of the OVAs, rather than individual articles for the three OVAs. I haven't checked if there are enough sources to establish the notability of the three OVAs individually. So in conclusion: I believe there are enough secondary sources to establish the notability of the character. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. No notability. Needs critical reception from notable reviewers to at least give it some semblance of notability. lullabying (talk) 22:11, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I saw a review by Japanator [1] which is a WP:RS per WP:A&M/RS. This linked thesis [2] also would be useful to look into in regards on Hinako's effect on the viewer. In my opinion the article just needs a rewrite via cleanup and cleanup isn't deletion. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 06:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, but rewrite to series article & move to Isshoni Training Along with the Japantor review, here are some other reviews about the series:
- "THEM Anime Reviews 4.0 - Sleeping with Hinako". www.themanime.org. Retrieved 2022-05-04.
- "Critique du DVD Training with Hinako - Anime Dvd". manga-news.com (in French). Retrieved 2022-05-04.
- Clements, Jonathan; McCarthy, Helen (2015-02-09). The Anime Encyclopedia, 3rd Revised Edition: A Century of Japanese Animation. Stone Bridge Press. ISBN 978-1-61172-909-2.
- However, it is unusual to write an article on the main character, but not on the series. I think it would be better to rewrite this to a series article and move to Isshoni Training. Jumpytoo Talk 05:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that if kept the article should be moved from the character to that of the series - I doubt Hinako has received coverage independent of the series she's from. Perhaps Draftify for now. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 05:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep but convert to an overall series article. I agree with others that the character itself may not meet GNG, but the overall series certainly does. It even has an article in Japanese. Link20XX (talk) 05:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I just created Isshoni Training with some information from the above sources and various ANN articles. Perhaps merging it to there would be a good course of action? Link20XX (talk) 04:00, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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