Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gideon (Legends of Tomorrow)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was restore redirect‎ to List of Legends of Tomorrow characters#Gideon. The arguments for redirection were strong, even as the discussion has stalled without returning input on newer source additions. (non-admin closure) SWinxy (talk) 02:05, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gideon (Legends of Tomorrow)[edit]

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Redirected as per WP:NPLOT, contested, but not enough in-depth coverage to show notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect restore unless reception section is expanded, or similar content showing notability (section on scholarly analysis, etc.) are added. WP:FANCRUFT in the form of plot summary belongs on Fandom, not Wikipedia. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:33, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Would the new additons suffice? OLI 03:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Its a work in progress. Im working on adding more section I think this is a unfair nomination. OLI 03:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Could we potentialy move the article into the draft space until I can provide enough information to warent the articles exitance. OLI 03:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I feel as if the complaint has been properly addressed and the nomination should be closed. OLI 03:38, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Restore Redirect - The sources available upon searches do not include anything beyond routine reviews/summaries of the episodes or casting news, and very brief, couple sentences worth of "reception" like the sources added to the article. The characters' section on the List of Legends of Tomorrow characters is already very detailed, and there is no coverage showing enough notability that splitting it out into a separate article would be justified. Rorshacma (talk) 18:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On the contraty it is very detailed on the seventh season. This goes further into detail and included Gideon's prior season seven experiance OLI 03:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect per Rorshacma. No consensus to create this without addressing the WP:NOTABILITY concerns. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:14, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The concerns have been adressed and I would like to state if you filter by year you can find more iformation on the chraracter. OLI 01:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a total of 18 citations I think its sufficent notability. OLI 01:35, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The number of citations has no bearing on passing the WP:GNG, its the actual reliability of the sources and the amount of significant coverage that goes beyond routine announcements within those reliable sources. Not only are many of these citations not reliable sources, others are the most trivial of mentions (i.e., reviews/summaries of an episode that mention the character in two sentences, like this one or this one). This one just lists the character's name in exactly one sentence saying no more than "she is in this episode". Filling an article with a multitude of trivial, low quality coverage does not demonstrate notability, and borders on WP:REFBOMBING. Rorshacma (talk) 03:26, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Exluding those refrences you still have 9 articles. A few of the episode recaps directly name drop Gidoen in the article title or heavily talk about her. If you wish I can provide a list of articles with less refrences that haven't been nominated for deletion. OLI 04:05, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It is a work in progress. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then that should go to the Draft namespace. Gonnym (talk) 03:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:32, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Legends of Tomorrow characters. Almost entire article is unsourced, WP:BEFORE shows nothing that talks the character directly. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:17, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This was adressed in a prior statement. If you look at the refrences I would argue that more than half of them are about GIdoen. OLI 13:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There were also several articles after the nomination. There exist several articels that havent been nominated that have fewer actual refrences than this one. OLI 13:46, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on sources, particularly ones added since the initiation of the AfD?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 03:15, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.