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Please note - rules of the game! I usually answer comments & questions on this page rather than on your talk (unless initiated there) to keep the conversation thread together. I am aware that some wikiers do things differently so let me know if you expect a reply on your page and maybe it'll happen :-)


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I have reverted your restoration of the articles Gourd Creek and Beaver Creek (Little Piney Creek tributary) and made them redirects again. The consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mill Creek (Little Piney Creek tributary) was clear, it was determined that these subjects did not merit separate articles. I am shocked that you, as an administrator, would flippantly disregard that consensus and act unilaterally to revert that decision. plicit 00:29, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah "flippantly disregard" - ain't that cute? And "shocked" ! I simply created articles about two valid streams based on their existence and the evidence on relevant topographic maps. I'm shocked that a group of wikipedians would take it upon themselves to destroy and delete valid articles about existing streams. Those deletionists routinely work to destroy Wikipedia as a comprehensive encyclopedia. As a editor and admin I take Wikipedia seriously and have worked for nearly 20 years to improve and expand this project - I assure you there be no "flippant disregard" here. So take your phoney "shock" and shove it. Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 12:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nomination of Haydite, Missouri for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Haydite, Missouri is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haydite, Missouri until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

MB 03:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Would you care to explain why you reverted my edits on Paracel Islands with no reasoning? –Aidan721 (talk) 00:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just a bunch of underlined spaces ... couldn't see a need for that. Vsmith (talk) 01:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's the proper formatting for infobox parameters per WP:INFOBOXNAME. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your edit!![edit]

Thank you Vsmith for your edit to Zebulon, North Carolina, correcting the GNIS citation links with better code! It wasn't a large edit or anything, but the town means a lot to me and I love to see any edits benefitting the article, as it doesn't get many. I really appreciate you spending you time to fix this. Thanks again! 😁 --Johnson524 (talk) 02:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

Hello, Vsmith

Thank you for creating Wakefieldite-(Ce).

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Any chance of an image.

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scope_creepTalk 17:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't have an image - and don't think I have a specimen of wakefiedlite (either Ce or La) in my collection. Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 18:08, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]

Hello, Vsmith

Thank you for creating Wakefieldite-(La).

User:Scope creep, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Hi, would this not be better in a table in the Wakefieldite article.

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scope_creepTalk 17:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Transylvania Etymology[edit]

Good afternoon,

I am wondering why the additions to the etymology of the word Ardeal has been deleted, together with reference? The source, and a few other etymologists, support the theory of this word deriving from a Proto-Indo-European etymon, yet, on the main page only the variant from Hungarian language is recognised.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Kind regards, Adrian Aristeus01 (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems that your wording was a bit confusing and your referencing was quite simply a mess. Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 17:30, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair enough. I'll try to do better. Thanks! Aristeus01 (talk) 17:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To lock article Stateless Nations[edit]

Hello Vsmith 👋 Stateless Nations Article become a controversial page as people of certain ideology, regardless of the neutrality of Wikipedia, have added and removed many names from the list of this page without providing any reliable source, to avoid this, I request you to lock this page. Shubhdeep Sandhu (talk) 14:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No thanks. And if I were to do so, I would undo your recent addition first. We don't do this sort of thing. Sorry 'bout that - Vsmith (talk) 16:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amhara page[edit]

Why did you deleted all the sources from the Amhara page that the user yonasJH deleted. Why? I don’t understand? 2A00:A040:194:C4AF:709D:E8CF:7C32:6DF6 (talk) 14:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I know I reverted edits by someone evading their block, as is standard practice. Doug Weller talk 15:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Huygens edit made[edit]

Dear Vsmith, I made an edit regarding Ango's publication detailing the first wave theory of light and I attempted to provide the reference, which I suspect was clumsy in execution. Regardless I think it was a relevant and factual edit that was also fascinating and I am wondering why it was deleted? Yours sincerely, Jonathan - fellow geologist/geophysicist Jcdownes (talk) 15:30, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, but what was the specific article you are referring to? Vsmith (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Christiaan Huygens. "With regard to the wave theory, both Huygens and another author, Pierre Ango (1640-1694), a professor of mathematics at Rouen, had studied the experiments of Jesuit Ignace-Gaston Pardies, described in a manuscript which was never published. These experiments seem to have suggested to Ango and Huygens their wave and light theory. Ango published in 1682 a work which was actually the first hypothesis that stated the wave nature of light, and Huygens had a copy of this treatise in his library [>" Jcdownes (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Seems when I try to go to that website I get a warning about it being unsafe ... so decided not. Vsmith (talk) 00:11, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The author of the book which I referenced provides his own sub-references:
4. L’Optique, by P. Pierre Ango, Paris, Michallet, 1682 (on line in Google Books).
5. Catalog of the Huygens sale, Moetjens, La Hague, 1695, page 13.
Should I use those instead?
Jonathan Jcdownes (talk) 03:47, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Best to cite the source you used. At least that is what I would do. Vsmith (talk) 12:17, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]



you reverted my tagging of this sentence as "incomprehensible". Do you not agree that so many of its constituent terms and phrases make so little sense taken out of the context of the referenced research paper that the whole thing ends up conveying essentially zero worthwhile information to a typical reader? Maybe I just didn't pick quite the right tag? To be clear, the sentences immediately before and after are just fine; this one sorely sticks out.


- 2A02:560:582D:CE00:75A0:2629:82EB:98FE (talk) 19:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is a direct quote of a "scholarly" source. And, yes it is rather poorly written as is all to common as such ... Vsmith (talk) 20:49, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Except it's not formatted as a quote, and searching for it in the pdf comes up blank. More like someone skimmed some of the jargon and stuck it together with garbled grammar. Either way, as it is, it adds no value whatsoever to the article. A quick look at the paper itself makes me think that its prose is fine, and that it's indeed potentially relevant to this article. Maybe get rid of the silly sentence altogether and stick the source someplace else?
- 2A02:560:582D:CE00:75A0:2629:82EB:98FE (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amhara people[edit]

Hi, you lastly removed thousands of written sources from the Wikipedia page of the Amhara people because you claimed it was “poorly written” which make no sense. it wasn’t poorly written and now the page is closed. (talk) 19:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"removed thousands of written sources" I think not eh? Vsmith (talk) 20:36, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes. You removed many sources from the page of the Amhara people because you claimed it was “poorly written” Tamart0290 (talk) 22:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And who are you? Seems this claim is your only post. Vsmith (talk) 23:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

in August 31 (which is 15 days ago) you removed many sources from the page of the Amhara people. And you wrote that the reason that you remove it was because it was “poorly written” Tamart0290 (talk) 00:20, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So? and again who are you - just go edit something and quit this harassment. Sorry 'bout that ... --Vsmith (talk) 00:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry to bother you, but I want to edit all the stuff that you removed from the page of the Amhara people on the 30 of August. I did edit request multiple times but no one took a look at this or even bother to. Can you please open the page of the Amhara people so I can edit they stuff that were removed? Tamart0290 (talk) 01:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, but no - the page was protected by another admin - based on disruptive editing. Vsmith (talk) 01:25, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

the* Tamart0290 (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok. So can’t you edit back all the sources/informations that you removed on August 30? Tamart0290 (talk) 03:52, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Because that page got closed right after your removed all the sources. Tamart0290 (talk) 03:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

you* Tamart0290 (talk) 04:36, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don’t understand. ok. The page is closed and you can do about it. But why can’t you put back all the sources that you removed on August 30? Tamart0290 (talk) 20:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don’t understand. ok. The page is closed and there is nothing you can do about it. But why can’t you put back all the sources that you removed on August 30? Tamart0290 (talk) 20:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amhara page[edit]

Hi, the user yonas J deleted all the sources that i edited on the page of the Amhara people. Why is that happening? those are well established sources. it is not the first time that He is doing that. Tamart0290 (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


You are aware that user is going around willy-nilly creating wikilinks, I've left warnings for WP:OVERLINKING on their talk. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great, an Admin who doesn't reply. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi ... replied, roll on down the line. Cheers back atcha. Sorry 'bout that - was busy elsewhere ... --Vsmith (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia.

Could you please explain your reasons for this revert? If i understand correctly, single crystal (no hyphen) is the noun form, single-crystal (with hyphen) is the adjective form, and the subject of the article is the thing (noun), not the adjective. While the grammar as you restored it is correct, i find it confusing; the comma after the hyphenated single-crystal makes that read like a noun form, which makes the appositive phrase or monocrystalline read like monocrystalline is a noun (like tourmaline or gasoline), and then the next word is a noun (which can also be an adjective), which is just jarring.

Also, i have observed that Wikipedia tends to start each article with a sentence that includes the name or names of the article's subject in bold, which would generally be the noun, not the adjective. The way you restored the bold text reinforces my incorrect impression of the bolded terms being nouns instead of adjectives.

i hope this makes sense and you can explain to me how my edit was inappropriate, if it was inappropriate. Cheers! -- (talk) 05:50, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Feel free to restore your edit as I wasn't aware of the reasoning ... cheers, Vsmith (talk) 12:35, 25 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Back yard[edit]

Nice back yard! (talk) 00:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is this ok? "Russian puppet state"[edit]


I see you reverted an edit done by user on the Moldova page. The first passage of the article now reads: "The unrecognised Russian puppet state of Transnistria lies across the Dniester on..."

Shouldn't it be just "unrecognised Russian state", or another lesser charged wording, to keep the tone politically neutral?

Cheers! Dhyana b (talk) 04:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for November 16[edit]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Hudson Bay Lowlands, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Seal.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Link restored in List of Global Boundary Stratotype Sections and Points : not the good Mount Risou[edit]

Hello, The correct Mount Risou is in France (the coordinates are OK) but the link point toward a mountain called Mont Risoux in Switzerland witch is not the good one ! (I'm also retreated science teacher at secondary school !). I did not find any good link to the correct Mount Risou, so I prefered no link at all and the correct writing of Mont Risou, Hautes-Alpes, France. Best regards and thanks Philippe Lospinguinos (talk) 15:46, 17 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

December 2022[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Normchou. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Eco-terrorism, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Hi, I restored the version before your last revert. Please refer to the source if you still have any doubts. Normchou💬 16:36, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year, Vsmith![edit]

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Moops T 20:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This man is not Muslim caliphate first you make sure that now today muslim don't have caliphate this is wrong information that you make on your platform please remove this man on our caliphate list he is not a Muslim[edit]

Remove this man on caliphate list he is not a muslim and don't play with muslim hearts please (talk) 13:33, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have no clue who "this man" is or what edit you are referring to ... Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 14:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit For Chelsea, Alabama[edit]

One of your edits were copied and pasted with too much info!!! Jpoe9900 (talk) 15:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Eh ... which one? Vsmith (talk) 18:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Geolocation changes on Buford, Georgia[edit]

Hey I saw this edit and checked the change, and the GNIS doesn't appear to list those coordinates, which are quite far from the city, just over 70 miles to the east of the city. Was this a typo in the edit, or am I looking at something on here wrong? I didn't want to mess with the changes without asking first. Thanks. - Aoidh (talk) 21:52, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The coords were from the GNIS page - I picked the average (sorta) from the four given. They are all within a two minute range. Could be the gnis has an error - will check with a topo map. Vsmith (talk) 22:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just checked the topo and Buford is at the intersection of four quadrangles at 34 07 30 N and 84 0 0 W. So I'll keep my edit. Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 22:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well ... I see I had longitude at 83 instead of 84, so fixed it now ... sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 23:18, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All good, thanks. - Aoidh (talk) 01:55, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chinese atomism[edit]

i am extremely sorry for my poor writing so i apologies for it but the reference has a very good evidence about the atomic view by Chinese philosophy.You can help expanding the article by using this link Cuando de hyiopi (talk) 00:22, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your recent contributions to Mud Center, Indiana[edit]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Mud Center, Indiana. Not welcome at da SD (talk) 18:57, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That be a rather odd comment. Please explain the problem at Mud Center is your view. Thanks in advance. :) Vsmith (talk) 18:59, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey @Vsmith: Disregard the warning. It was made by a vandalism only account that spammed similar warnings across a number of user's pages. I'm going through reverting their edits now, which is how I found this conversation. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:04, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Autry Technology Center[edit]

Hey, noticed your interest in Enid and in teaching. I’ve been trying to get a separate page for the Autry Technology Center in Enid, but have run up against a reviewer who thinks it isn’t “notable” enough. You might want to check out the Autry page, then click on the deletion discussion page link, second line from the top and—if you agree the page should stay—leave a comment recommending that it not be deleted. Thanks. TulGuy (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your edits to 'Notable People' of 'Deer Lodge, MT'[edit]

Apparently on Jan. 8, 2023, you deleted 4 entries I had previously made to Deer Lodge's Notable People. You also made it impossible for me to simply undo what you did. May I ask why? Please advise! In lieu of a satisfactory reply I will add them again, and lodge a complaint. Thank you. (By the way, if it was you who linked James H. Mills to James Henry Mills, please note that the former was long dead when the latter was born.) Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 06:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry about that Mills error - so it goes. Vsmith (talk) 12:38, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And your reason for deleting the other 4? Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 19:35, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Took a look and cut some excess as details are to be found in linked articles. Keep the list entries brief. Vsmith (talk) 23:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Words fail me. Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 04:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please forgive my perhaps non-neutral replies. Although I've had a Wikipedia ID for some time, I rarely contribute, and I do appreciate the hard work that dedicated admins like yourself perform. I did ask for a third party opinion and was properly rebuffed. I really just want to understand how to deal with the notable people in the Deer Lodge article. Again I apologize. Thank you. Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem. To "deal with the notable people" is quite simple (maybe); just find a valid reference or two which support their notability and write the article. Local or regional news articles would be most likely - unless the are widely known (or notorious). Vsmith (talk) 21:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Appreciate your attention to this matter. Does your rewrite refer only to the Deer Lodge, Montana article or to separate articles for each person which would then be referenced by the main article? Articles supporting notability can, as I recall, be dicey. Most of what I've been able to find on one of them consists of newspaper articles in the New Northwest newspaper, which was Deer Lodge's only newspaper at that (1870's, 1880's) time. (Note that this is NOT The New Northwest article in Wikipedia.) As I recall, Wikipedia frowns on newspaper articles, preferring secondary sources. I wouldn't want to waste our time if newspaper articles are excluded. Your take? Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 02:55, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oops! Bad me. I see your reference to local or regional news articles. Can I take that as an endorsement of the sort of newspaper articles which I described above? One qualifying factor might be that all issues of the New Northwest are available for searching on Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 03:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By the bye, James H. Mills was the long time owner/editor of the New Northwest, among a number of other things. Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 03:02, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Looks like you have a grasp on what is needed - charge on and have fun along the way --Vsmith (talk) 12:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC) And separate articles would be the best if supporting refs are available. Individuals can be mentioned within the article (without having their own article) assuming the added content can be referenced. Vsmith (talk) 12:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks much. Keep you posted. Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vera Cruz, Missouri and Clark's Mill[edit]

I've gotten the impression that you're familiar with the geography of the Douglas/Ozark county areas. I've been working on Battle of Clark's Mill, and want to make sure that the geography I've pieced together from the sources is correct. The article before I added sources made reference to the Bertha area, but the sources I consulted all refer to the Bertha area as just the location's relative position to Rockbridge, so I guess Bertha didn't exist until after 1862 maybe? One of the sources (Nichols), claimed the blockhouse at Clark's Mill was on "Big Beaver Creek", but maps I looked at show that Creek being out by Arno and not near Vera Cruz as well. So that claim is not in the article. Not even Elmo Ingenthron's old Borderland Rebellion book that focuses on the Springfield-to-Arkansas area has much to say on this one, largely just quoting the Federal commander's report.

I spent a couple days over in Ava for work in 2021, but otherwise don't have any first hand experience with the area. Hog Farm Talk 05:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bertha is about 8 miles southeast of Vera Cruz on Fox Creek just north of Bryant Creek and three miles northeast of Rockbridge. The Rome area is on Beaver Creek southwest of Ava (~9 miles) and ~15 miles WSW of Vera Cruz. There was Civil War action in the Rome area altho I'm not familiar with the details. One of the buildings from the Rome area was moved and is now located along Hwy 14 near the east city limits of Ava. The museum in Ava has considerable material about the Civil War era in Douglas County (only open on Saturdays last I knew). The museum publishes a journal (1 or 2 issues per year) and some of those have articles about the locations of interest - I have a few of them somewhere ... :) If my memory kicks in with more info ... or whatever I'll pass it along. Will celebrate my 80th birthday in a week - so I might forget :) Cheers! Vsmith (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

CS1 error on Iron(II) oxide[edit]

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