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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]

Hello VQuakr,

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Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022


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Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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Happy New Year![edit]

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]

Hello VQuakr,

New Page Review queue December 2022

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards
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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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Recent Edit on a BLP (where the edit goes to the main substance of entry)[edit]

Hopefully I have been able to initiate a 3O on your edit of the attached page earlier today. It isn't clear how the primary source, which directly challenges the first paragraph of the BLP, is "libellous". I notice that you have previously gone in, along with specific other editors, and removed information about this BLP. You should at least be able to state what level of authentication is required to substantiate this fact and have it included in the entry. Blofit (talk) 00:09, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Blofit: this isn't a valid topic for WP:3O since there are more than two participants in the discussion. My advice is to edit an area unrelated to living persons for a while and forget all about this subject. But the answer to your question is at WP:BLPPRIMARY: a primary source will never be sufficient for the sort of musings you are making. Examples of generally reliable secondary sources can be found at WP:RSPSS (the green ones). VQuakr (talk) 00:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It seems, right now, there are just two. Because the chain of edits has gone from one user suggesting Talk Page, and then two highly interested users on that Talk Page taking issue with the topic being raised. This is probably not sock puppeteering, but interested editors with their own off-site connection to the party, and an interest in not seeing changes or challenges. It is you though who shut the conversation there down.
Primary source that is a government record has been used for this BLP. When he gave up American citizenship, it was one of the few that made it into the congressional record. The reason for the entry and BLP is this is someone who supposedly gave up the citizenship for purposes of civil rights activism in Japan, but is in fact no longer in Japan and no longer a US renouncer. The BLP unique quality may actually need the inclusion of material later than 2013 so the entry does not read like marketing material to build notoriety.
There is too much last wordism surrounding any online discussion about this individual as a subject. People who see---really---nothing more than promoted a lawsuit and changes citizenship as the key fame points would wonder why it is so. 01:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC) Blofit (talk) 01:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Blofit, Throast, VQuakr, and Johnuniq is 4. Quit musing about other editors' motivations and exhibit an interest in some other topic. VQuakr (talk) 01:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Blofit, you're dangerously close to a WP:NOTHERE block. Stop this accusatory nonsense right now. Throast {{ping}} me! (talk | contribs) 10:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]