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Welcome to my Winter Wonderland! Some general things to know about my Talk page... If you write me here I will respond here. If you write me on your user talk page then please tag me there so I may respond there. If a discussion is begun in one location then please keep it there for the sake of continuity. I may move discussions to keep them in one place when they are related. I will archive discussions regularly but no longer than 6 months at a time so if you don't see a particular discussion please look in my archives before alerting me. I have some rules on my talk page I would appreciate being observed by everyone: be kind, be nice, and be understanding. Honesty is important and how you feel is valid but if you are upset by something I have done or said or something said here by others then please step back, take a deep breath, and approach me calmly- I'm totally willing to listen and will admit if I have made a mistake and apologize, especially, if I have offended you! Sometimes it may take longer for me to reply. If a few days pass without a reply, please forgive me and send out a search and rescue team to find me. I undoubtedly fell into a hole somewhere. I will respond as soon as it is humanly possible for me to do so. My talk page is regularly monitored by helpful Talk Page Watchers and Wiki-friends. They may comment or offer assistance from time to time and their presence is both wanted and appreciated. They are my guests as long as they don't eat all my cookies. :) Please note that it is 11:25 AM (-9 UTC), where I live. This page is best viewed using Mozilla Firefox but may cause some issues for viewers using mobile application. I am posting this statement as a courtesy for mobile users and to let them know I will work to find a solution. Talk Page archive: 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 2027 2027 2028

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Women in Red in December 2022

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Question from Brosees (22:50, 28 November 2022)

how do i change a cover picture? --Brosees (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Brosees, Cover picture? I'm not sure I understand the question. --ARoseWolf 13:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

like say if i wanna change an actor's current pic.. Brosees (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Brosees, okay, there are two ways of accomplishing this. The first is to upload the picture to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main Page and then add it to the article in question. The other way is to upload it directly to the Wikipedia article. Here are some links that should assist you, Help:Pictures, MOS:IMAGES, and WP:UPIMAGE. Remember: Only free licensed media may be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Fair use media will have to be uploaded directly to the article. Also you are responsible for making sure that an image is not under copyright. Failure to do so may result in the image either being removed from the article or deleted from Commons. --ARoseWolf 18:29, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Growth team newsletter #23

Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights

• Mentorship: We released the new structured mentor list to all wikis. This change makes mentorship easier to setup, manage and use.
• Positive reinforcement: An improved impact module is available for testing.

Screenshot of the positive reinforcement module improvements.

Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test

The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.

Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.

This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.

Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback

After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.

We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:

• Patroller fatigue:
  • By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.

• Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
  • Add a Link
    • Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
    • The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
    • The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
  • Add an Image
    • Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
    • Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
    • We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023. [1]

The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.

Recent changes

• All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request. [2]
• The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available. [3][4]
• Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.

News for mentors

• All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
  • We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
  • Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting Special:MentorDashboard.
  • Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
  • A new special page — Special:ManageMentors — now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
• The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees. [5]

Deployments

• Add a link has been deployed to a 5th round of wikis. [6]

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Clan mother

Asareel, thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful message. Please accept my apologies for my tardiness in replying as I was rather tired last night after a long night at work-the same is true tonight. I've see if I can make it to the library this weekend to find some sources that might be helpful. Best wishes and I hope all is well!--A.S. Brown (talk) 10:43, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

December roses

December songs

Thank you for spreading good spirits wherever I see your name on my watchlist! Anything you could do for Debussy? I thought of you when I took a pic of roses in December. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for adding there. Today, we sing for a Marian feast, I learned that Yvonne Ciannella died, the soprano who impressed me in my first night at the opera, and as she died in March, sadly no Main page reverence is possible, - at least she had a good DYK, at a time when opera singers were considered interesting. I'm proud today that Christiane Hörbiger made it to that corner, and happy that we celebrate the birthday of Jean Sibelius again. - I heard an excellent concert yesterday, by Tenebrae, and a short excerpt of them singing "Deo gracias" is also linked from my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Today was a day rich in music, with two new pictures, and also rich in WP:QAI contributions on the Main page: the TFA, 2 DYK and 2 RD with members as principal editors. The church pictured there (not by me, nice snow dust and tall evergreen) comes with memories, detailed on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Latest pics, snow even here. Today my talk has a DYK that was planned for 22 November, among the recent deaths the author of Duck, Death and the Tulip, and now a choir pic of "our" concert last Sunday, likely to become next year's lead image. Enjoy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Sshippwreck1957 (02:53, 14 December 2022)

Thank you for helping mee. It is late here and my wife has dinner ready. I will get back to editing tomorrow. Thanks again, Stuart --Sshippwreck1957 (talk) 02:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Best of luck

Hi ARoseWolf, I over read on another user talk page your plans for the Winter and I found it so fascinating and wanted to wish you well during this upcoming period. Also, you talk about "rolling the r" in your name. I for the life of me can not do this and have tried everything. My daughter does it and rubs it in my face. I truly believe it might have something to do with genetics and have always wanted to do more research on it, like it is a physical characteristic like lobed ears and being able to curl your tongue. Cheers! Malerooster (talk) 17:35, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Malerooster, Thank you so much for your kind and thoughtful words. My daughter can roll r's but her father can't. She rubs it in his face too. Trust me, I do not get upset with those that simply say "Asareel" with no roll. It could be a genetic thing, I haven't ever really researched that. I grew up with a Papa that disallowed English being spoken in our home (English was a language of business only). I didn't attend public schools except for maybe one or two years. I was homeschooled by my Mama. Sometimes I didn't understand why because all of my siblings went to public schools but there were other circumstances and my parents chose to keep me from enduring those situations. I learned most everything I did from reading books. Countless hours of reading. I still do it today. I probably read three times as much as I write on Wikipedia. I do thank you so much for being a part of this community and reaching out to me. It has made my day. Keep practicing those r's. I believe you will get it eventually. The human spirit can be quite indomitable. --ARoseWolf 17:58, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Best wishes for the upcoming winter, and thanks for the kind words about me on Martin's talk page. Stay warm and cozy, and see you when you emerge from hibernation! --Tryptofish (talk) 20:56, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Hello ARoseWolf: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, GenQuest ^"scribble" 16:07, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Hello ARoseWolf : Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, --A.S. Brown (talk) 04:13, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

		Happy Holidays
		Hello, I wish you the very best during the holidays. And I hope you have a very happy 2023! Bruxton (talk) 18:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red January 2023

Happy New Year from Women in Red | January 2023, Volume 9, Issue 1, Nos 250, 251, 252, 253, 254 Online events: New: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | Alphabet run M & N | Geofocus East Asia Continuing: #1day1woman | Women who died in 2022 See also: Editing For Effie collaboration with the Smithsonian, January 8 & 9 (global event) Tip of the month: De-orphan and incorporate an article into Wikipedia using the Find Link tool Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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From Estariel

Hi ARoseWolf,

Thank you for leaving an encouraging message on my page. I actually did run into an issue recently, having a disagreement with an editor. You can see our discussion here:

Talk:List of highest-grossing film directors# of films is not accurate

Basically I noticed that the information that they sourced is not accurate, and the source page has problems with how its tallying data and also contains some obviously wrong information. However the other user doesn't want to change anything and considers making these adjustments "original research". I don't know if I should just go ahead and make the edits myself but some of the data points on the page are just categorically wrong at this point.

Any advice would be appreciated, thank you in advance. Estariel (talk) 21:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Actually, problem has been solved after some more back and forth. Cheers. Estariel (talk) 05:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

2023

January songs

happy new year

colours to move forward! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

today, I point at two singers I whose performance I enjoyed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

today, less pointy: a composition from a remarkable 2022 concert, the sad record of four articles about people who recently died on the Main page at the same time, and singing for Epiphany --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's featured article is Osbert Parsley, not by me but Amitchell125 where I commented, including the beginning of my songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm on vacation, - click on songs! I tell my own stories now, instead of relying on DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Today's topic Elisabeth Waterhouse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm happy about the pictured DYK you made with SusunW! Mine today, Elena Manistina, or: why Tchaikovsky's The Enchantress isn't on the Main page, leaves me rather unhappy, and that's my last woman on DYK, - life is too short. Under the recent deaths, I have Clytus Gottwald for whom I made a DYK in 2012. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC) back from vacation - Melitta Muszely died, RIP --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from BaltimoreHistorian (15:36, 8 January 2023)

Hey! How do I create a page for someone who has the same name as an existing Wikipedia page? And do you know if I can change the name of a page in my Sandbox after I started it? Thank you! --BaltimoreHistorian (talk) 15:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Let's say that the existing page is about a tennis player named "Jane Doe", and you are creating a new page about a historian also named "Jane Doe". You can call your new page "Jane Doe (historian)". Putting a descriptor in parentheses in the pagename is the standard way of doing it. If you want to be even more elegant, you can use Template:About at the top of both pages. (You can see an example of all of this at Anne Hathaway and Anne Hathaway (wife of Shakespeare).)

Changing the name of the page in your Sandbox is done by "moving" it, and there's a step-by-step guide at Help:Move. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:54, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! BaltimoreHistorian (talk) 14:51, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Tryptofish See above, thanks from @BaltimoreHistorian. Let me add my own to that. You are amazing, Tryp! Thank you. --ARoseWolf 16:39, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

George Pell

There are some really damning issues with this case. One especially damning fact with child sex abuse cases is that there are no statutes of limitations. The thing that was really problematic about the statutes of limitations on this case was that it was run as a historical child sexual abuse case. The overwhelming and damning issue is the time between when the original incidents were alleged to have occurred and the amount of time it took for the cases to precede. There was a matter held in court in Ballarat. The issue with the case is clear as daylight that one of the alleged victims was already dead, that provided several issues with evidence and examination.

It also highlights a secondary issue about the case about how long in general it took to proceed. The issue as per always wasn't the strength of the case. A prosecutor rarely brings a matter to court unless there is a significant possibility that they will win that particular case. The real issue I raised above was the amount of time that had expired between when the alleged events occurred and the actual timing of the trial. Had some of the witnesses been alive, and the case been held at an earlier point where the evidence was fresh, and less time had expired in general, there may well have been an entirely different outcome. 120.22.208.169 (talk) 16:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for coming to my Talk page. Wikipedia policy does not allow us to add information to an article unless it is supported by reliable independent secondary sources. We are to take care in what we present to ensure it is actually supported. No original research is allowed. Wikipedia does not allow for "what if's". Adding derogatory terms in the article in Wikivoice without a supported citation to multiple reliable secondary sources is a clear violation of policy. Everything stated above is your conjecture of what occurred or may have occurred based on your following of this case and your own investigative determinations. Therefore the edit was reverted and should not be re-added under any circumstances until the criteria for inclusion is met. --ARoseWolf 16:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

@ARoseWolf The IP continues to reinstate their edits. An Edit War is active, as the user has violated 3RR. Just wanted to let you know. The Great Wikipedian (talk) 17:10, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, The Great Wikipedian, my discussion above is not in relation to the edits that are being edit warred over, specifically, but this edit in which the editor added "child molester" to the article. While it appears George Pell was initially convicted that conviction was reversed by a higher court meaning he was acquitted therefore the inclusion of the term in Wikivoice subjects Wikipedia to potential harm. Protection of the encyclopedia is paramount. --ARoseWolf 17:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I see. Thank You. The Great Wikipedian (talk) 17:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, THAT all blew up quickly... GenQuest ^"scribble" 20:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

GenQuest, ended almost as quickly. Thankfully. --ARoseWolf 20:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Mike Curb

content was removed as it is opinionated and not substantiated. There was also, not information on mike curb from 1973-2021. I have added content. Benson Curb (talk) 20:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Benson Curb: based on your account name, please see WP:COI. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Benson Curb: I would also encourage you to read and understand our policies on independent reliable sources WP:RS, verifiability WP:V and original research WP:OR besides what Tryp has directed you to for potential COI concerns. --ARoseWolf 20:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Would love to have someone up-date if I am a conflict. Just trying to have accurate information on the site. Benson Curb (talk) 20:35, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Benson Curb: The proper way going forward is to suggest any changes on the articles talk page. You will see that tab at the top of the page on the article. You will need to provide reliable independent secondary sources for anything you want added to the article. It can't be anything you simply know due to any link you have with the subject. That is original research. --ARoseWolf 20:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Benson Curb, I have rolled back the edits for now because they were improperly sourced which left them unreferenced. We can't have unsourced content added to the article. Please go to the talk page (linked here) and follow the instructions found at WP:COI on how to approach asking for content to be added to the article. --ARoseWolf 20:46, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

there are two people that were making an up date. WE will gather information and references. The mike curb page is missing 50 years of information though.Someone will follow the guidelines to up-date. Benson Curb (talk) 21:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

For anyone keeping up, a new IP has arrived on this article and is trying to "update" information using no sources. --ARoseWolf 21:06, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Repeated IP vandal

Just figured I'd tell you that the repeated vandal on various IPs we just encountered is an LTA, so no need to warn them. Just report on sight. You can ask ScottishFinnishRadish for more info since they seem to have encountered them first. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:33, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I picked up on that after looking at the article history, thanks, Blaze. :-) --ARoseWolf 20:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

No problem! I don't even know how the first article i noticed them on got on my watchlist... ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I was just patrolling but when I noticed they kept changing IP's I figured it was a LTA so I looked at the article history and sure enough... I asked for page protection but may not have done it correctly. I don't usually make it that far. --ARoseWolf 20:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Nope you've done it right (as evidenced by the page being protected now). I typically use RedWarn along with Twinkle since RedWarn allows me to request an article to be protected which Twinkle (oddly) does not seem to have. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Hmmm, I have page request ability through Twinkle. I thought about using Red Warn but figured I'd learn Twinkle good first. --ARoseWolf 20:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Huh. Alright then, guess I Just don't use Twinkle enough for that. Tbh I don't even know how it's possible for someone to change IPs that quickly. Like, I know VPNs exist but they still take about a minute to actually connect you to the server. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Multiple devices connected at the same time maybe? --ARoseWolf 21:00, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Maybe. I don't fully understand how IP addressing works so knowing how it works would probably help me understand how they change IPs that fast. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with this particular case, but one way that IP addresses can change rapidly is through an automatic process called "dynamic IP addresses", which is explained at IP address#IP address assignment. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:09, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

IT's definitely not a dynamic IP. Multiple IPs from different ranges as well as switching between IPv4 and IPv6. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh, then I agree that it's not that. Strange indeed. Maybe a mobile device being used while moving from place to place? --Tryptofish (talk) 21:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from Vmkverma (03:52, 14 January 2023)

Wanted to edit the language from English to Hindi . --Vmkverma (talk) 03:52, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Winter

Just stopping by to say hi, and that I hope all is well in your neck of the woods. I thought this kitty, peering through green grass, could be a reminder that, eventually, warmer weather will return. Rosiestep (talk) 19:40, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Laura Bergt

On 27 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laura Bergt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Laura Bergt was said to have gained millions of acres of land for Native Alaskans by Eskimo-kissing Vice President Spiro Agnew (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laura Bergt. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Laura Bergt), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 25,293 views (1,053.9 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of January 2023 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Friday

My turn to keep an eye on things around here

Happy Friday! Thought of you when I decided on today's cat. It's a sunny morning here; see you after the spring thaw. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:49, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red in February 2023

Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259 Online events: New: Alphabet run O & P | Black women | Justice | Folklore Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman Tip of the month: Explore Wikipedia for all variations of the woman's name (birth name, married name, re-married name, pen name, nickname) Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Growth team newsletter #24

Welcome to the twenty-fourth newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomer experience projects

The Growth team partnered with other WMF teams to conduct several experiments around increasing account creation and new editor retention. Results from four of these experiments are now available:

• Thank you pages & banners - Encourage donors to create accounts through thank you pages and banners.
• Marketing experiment - Run ads on-wiki and off-wiki to see how this impacts account activation.
• "Add an image" GLAM events - Host GLAM events that focus on using the "Add an image" tool.
• Welcome emails - Experiment sending welcome emails to newly created accounts.

Newcomer tasks

• Several communities suggested improving "add a link", by suggesting underlinked articles first. We released this change to Growth pilot wikis. We will review the data and collect feedback before considering releasing it to more wikis. [7]
• The deployment of the "add a link" to all Wikipedias is still in progress. Suggested links use a prediction model, which has to be trained. The deployments will resume after we finish training all models. [8]

Mentorship

• When someone wants to signup as a mentor, they are now informed if they don't meet the defined criteria. [9]
• Workshop hosts asked us to have workshop attendees assigned to them. They can soon use a custom URL parameter. This way, workshop hosts will continue mentoring the event's attendees after the workshop. It will be available in February. [10]
• Have you considered to help new editors on your wiki, by signing up to be a Mentor?
  • Please visit Special:MentorDashboard to check on the conditions to be a mentor, and sign up.
  • If your wiki does not have Mentorship enabled, consider setting it up. The Growth team can provide advice and assist as needed. Please ping Trizek (WMF) for assistance.

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• In Special:SpecialPages, Growth experiments now have their own section. [11]
• This newsletter will have a new publication period, 6 times a year: January, March, May, July, September, November.

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14:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from TheoFraser1 (10:29, 2 February 2023)

Hello, my name is Theo and I am currently working for the venture capital firm Atomico. I've set up this account to make some changes to the Atomico wikipedia page, and to our CEO's wikipedia page (Niklas Zennström), as much of the information is now outdated. I only wish to make edits to the factual information and have no interest in changing any of the language. I just wanted to declare this conflict of interest before making any edits and inform you of my intentions. If you could let me know that I am okay to proceed that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. --TheoFraser1 (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @TheoFraser1. Please see the informational message I left on your talk page and follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#How to disclose. ––FormalDude (talk) 10:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC) (talk page watcher)

Question from Almeida Fernando (18:48, 5 February 2023)

This is just a quick note to say hello! It is a lovely name, Asareel. It is amazing how many edits you have made since joining Wikipedia in 2020. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from you. --Almeida Fernando (talk) 18:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Almeida Fernando, Hello and sorry for the delay. Thank you for such a compliment about my name. It is so very nice to meet you. When I started on Wikipedia I began writing articles on a topic very close to me, you could say I was a SPA of sorts. I fell in love with this community and though I haven't written much new material since I have found more use out of helping others to write and doing work copyediting and patrolling for vandalism. If the right idea comes along I will get back into writing new articles. I would be so glad to assist you in any way that I may and I look forward to learning from you too. Remember that discussion is how consensus is found so don't forget to discuss any issues you may have with others in the community. --ARoseWolf 19:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks, Asareel. I'll follow your guidance. I'm passionate about books so maybe one of these days, I'll try to find a notable book and write an article about it. Once again, great to have someone I can ask and get guidance from. Almeida Fernando (talk) 12:58, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia US Mountain West online meeting

Wikipedia users in the United States Mountain West and High Plains will hold an online meeting from 8:00 to 9:00 PM MST, Tuesday evening, February 14, 2023, at meet.google.com/kfu-topq-zkd. Anyone interested in the history, articles, or photographs of our region is encouraged to attend. If you don't wish to receive these invitations any more, please remove your username from the Wikipedia:Meetup/US Mountain West/Invitation list. Thanks.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:42, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh, oh! Sounds like the mountain geeks don't have any dates for Valentine's Day. Just saying... GenQuest ^"scribble" 16:41, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

GenQuest, On my birthday too. :) --ARoseWolf 15:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

February songs

February songs

my daily stories

yesterday's cantata, 300 years later --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

... and today a book, Alte Liebe, for Valentine --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

... and today the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from Jonfitzgerald82 (12:25, 10 February 2023)

My page for Devine Evans keeps getting rejected for publication. They say I need more references but the page is very similar to Adam Blackstone page. I would like your advice. --Jonfitzgerald82 (talk) 12:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Jonfitzgerald82, Devine may very well be notable but the three sources you have for your draft are Tv Guide, a personal website and Billboard. That's not convincing. We need significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Significant coverage is often very subjective but I always tend to look at it in saying if they are a focus of the source then they are mostly likely being significantly covered. Be careful using primary, meaning closely linked to the subject of the article you writing about, sources. They can not be used in proving notability. With the AfC process the reviewer is only evaluating the draft based on the sources presented. You may find articles included in Wikipedia that are poorly or inadequately sourced but that should never be the rule and those articles will eventually be contested and possibly deleted. Keep working on it and find better sources to prove notability. --ARoseWolf 14:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

No Question from Bought the Store (01:17, 15 February 2023)

thanx! I am just looking around. Maybe I will be able to contribute to an article someday... --Bought the Store (talk) 01:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Bought the Store, let me know if there is anything further I can do to assist you and welcome! --ARoseWolf 19:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Our2050World (21:53, 17 February 2023)

Hello, it’s great to have a mentor! I am hoping to introduce a split of net zero from the carbon neutrality article. I am building up the material to create a sandbox for net zero and will look to propose the changes that need to be made to the CN article for it to remain. Do you have any top tips on how to go about doing this most effectively? Thank you! --Our2050World (talk) 21:53, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Our2050World, I will leave some tips on your talk page. As for splitting articles, let me know when you have it complete and I'll take a look. I love to read anyway. Welcome and I'm glad to be your mentor. :) --ARoseWolf 19:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2023

Women in Red Mar 2023, Vol 9, Iss 3, Nos 251, 252, 258, 259, 260, 261 Online events: New: Geofocus Mediterranean | Art + Activism | Alphabet run Q & R Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman | Folklore See also: #Visible Wiki Women Wikimedia challenge to add more images of women to Commons Tip of the month: Mobile phone readers may only see the article "lead" – take some time to make it shine! Include something to keep people reading. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Lajmmoore (talk) 12:55, 26 February 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

how to edit some pages about political figures

Dear mentor

hi i am haithm. from Sana'a [sˤɑnʕaːʔ], i am researching on enriching wikipedia contents in arabic language, specially about public/political figures, in arab countries and in my country that never mentioned, which they are lots of them, they change the history of arab world, or my country, and most of people knowthem. but because of they lived in tens of decades ago. no articles, press, videos, or blogs, ever mentioned them by may be we can found old newspaper mentioned them, or a book published by them. a vintage personal portraits show him.

My question

how can i publish an article that is comply with wikipedia policies of people change a history, and mosly known by many. but no urls or articles or press talked about them?

is there any other validity proofs in order to publish a valid page or an article in wikipedia?

please accepet my appreciats in advance :-) Haithmgarallah (talk) 00:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

I apologize for the delayed response, Haithmgarallah. Weather and responsibilities outside Wikipedia are the cause for the delay. Let me begin by welcoming you to Wikipedia and to state that I hope you will be able to find your niche here. I also wanted to state that I believe it is wonderful that you followed your passions here to Wikipedia and want to attempt to translate those to improving the encyclopedia. I will attempt to help you avoid many of the pitfalls that new editors experience on their journey here. Let's begin.

I am not an expert on the Arabic language but I am a student of language, both spoken and unspoken. That being said I do want t caution you that dealing with politics is a difficult path here on the encyclopedia, especially local or regional politics. It is especially important that you back up every claim or statement with reliable sources.

That brings me to the next subject, sourcing. Sources are not required to be online and you may use old newspapers but those newspapers must be available somewhere for review, whether in a library or excerpts from a book. There must be a means, even if it is not easily accessible or is behind a pay wall, of verification. In short, Wikipedia does not care what most people know. It does not matter what you or I know, unless it is stated, confirmed and verified in reliable sources.

I know it can be difficult to understand how or why the encyclopedia operates this way, especially when we know something is true. While there may be absolute truths out there remember that at one time in recorded human history very smart people believed the earth was flat. What we see as truth may not be so clearly evident to others and it may simply be perspective that alters how we view something. This is why Wikipedia requires independent reliable sources. We are not saying that what is written is absolute truth. We are saying that what is written is what reliable sources say is the truth.

Nothing will ever be able to take away the accomplishments of so many of these historical figures within the Arab world but without those reliable sources giving it significant coverage it can not be included on Wikipedia. The only valid proof allowed is the reliable source itself.

I very much appreciate you being here and a part of this community. Thank you for bringing your question to my talk page. I will be leaving a welcome message on yours with helpful tips and links to important information about editing. --ARoseWolf 15:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

March stories

March songs

my women's day story

I remember a 2016 DYK on IWD, Hana Blažíková, a Czech who sang German music in Japan. Girls and women sang how Bach arranged Pergolesi's Stabat Mater to a new text paraphrasing Psalm 51, last Sunday. - I loved improving Mary Bauermeister - on the Main page until yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Marek Kopelent died, and it's Saint Patrick's Day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Macfeegles (05:36, 9 March 2023)

Hello, new to editing, so hope you can help. I have been trying to upload an image, originally created in xcel, then followed the instructions about how to prepare it, but when I finally went through the process of adding it to WP, it just comes back and says NO, but no hints of why. At a loss ... --Macfeegles (talk) 05:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Macfeegles and welcome to Wikipedia. I honestly can not directly answer your question so I have posted it to the Teahouse where I am a host and where very knowledgeable editors volunteer their time to answer questions. I feel this is the best place to ask. I have pinged you there. I will also leave a welcome message and some helpful tips for you on your talk page. Please do not hesitate to ask further questions should you have them. If I do not know the answer then I will try to get the answer for you. --ARoseWolf 13:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Sonofman23 (10:51, 9 March 2023)

Thank you. I’ve used Wikipedia often as a resource and would like to contribute my studies and interests in to pages.

What are the most effective learning tools and resources that would allow me to do so in the proper formatting with minimal effort. I want to ensure when i publish I take great care to respect the efforts of all those who’ve complied such a beautiful living wiki --Sonofman23 (talk) 10:51, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

By doing things like grammar and spellcheck. Off to a roaring start! Sonofman23 (talk) 10:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Topics for the curious minded

As a preface, I am a very blunt thinker and talker. I’m open to debate and criticism of mine or others works because right and wrong doesn’t equate in subjects I dig in to and ask questions about. They are honest in their effort to explore a thought, question, topic or subject to its most objectively truthful end, regardless of popular opinion ot bias or the collective consciousness of the moment. That said I am not one to make a habit of using a platform in a manner for which it is unintended. Ghandi has rightly judged that “even in a minority of one, the truth is the truth.” What is wikipedias general stance on a research page surrounding topics that could be considered sensitive if presented in a neutral and informative format with links for back-up etc? Sonofman23 (talk) 10:59, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Sonofman23, the world is full of philosophers and thinkers. In regards to Wikipedia, "truth" is believed to be in the eye of the beholder and therefore is not as important as accuracy to sources. We report what sources say in a neutral way, not meaning that every article is neutral in its content. We do not create a false sense of balance. If the coverage of a notable subject is overwhelmingly negative then how could the content within Wikipedia's article on that subject not be equally negative if reported accurately. We do not project our own thoughts into articles though you will see this often displayed on talk pages and in discussions so long as it doesn't violate a policy. We are expected to edit articles dispassionately even though we may be very passionate about the subjects we edit. --ARoseWolf 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Muhusin tech tv (17:21, 16 March 2023)

hello --Muhusin tech tv (talk) 17:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Muhusin tech tv, is there something I can assist you with? --ARoseWolf 19:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

So happy...

... that you're back. Rosiestep (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)