User talk:Starke Hathaway

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Hi, Avono, thanks for the welcome. I've edited as an IP user here and there for years, but have never felt moved to register an account until now. I appreciate the links to resources. Starke Hathaway (talk) 23:41, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom

He has an exception in his Topic Ban for arbcom. My advice to you would be to self-revert in order to not be boomeranged. Avono (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Avono: I hatted so as to be transparent... wrong move? Starke Hathaway (talk) 19:58, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Penguins

Roy and Silo. Just for your reading pleasure. Giraffes are pretty interesting, too; seems they're more interested in same-sex (?same-gender) encounters than opposite-sex ones. Stumbled on that last night when I went to read about how their necks work.  :) Risker (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I must say, a world with gay penguins and giraffes does seem to me to be a better and happier place than a world without. :) -Starke Hathaway (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I'm late

But I do appreciate that fix to my edits at AE and the courtesy note on my page. Cheers.Nishidani (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

You are quite welcome.

Thank you for your kind note re corps numerical designators.CobraDragoon (talk) 18:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

March 2015

Hello, Starke Hathaway,
It is highly unusual for a new account to spend a lot of time posting at WP:ARE and WP:ANI rather than editing articles. Did you have a different account you previously edited under? If so, you might want to acknowledge it on your user page. Just a suggestion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:46, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh, for crying out loud. I have never had another account here, with the exception of "Starke hathaway" which I had changed through the proper procedures because the uncapitalized last name bothered me. Despite what seems to be the prevailing belief around here, not everyone who disagrees with the house POV at AE is a sock. If you're not satisfied with this response, please oh pretty please take me to the noticeboard of your choice rather than continuing to post this passive aggressive nonsense on my talk page. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

My apologies. You just seemed to have a lot of experience for a new editor. I have no inclination to take this fact to a noticeboard because there is nothing wrong with being a quick study. I edited 7 years ago under a different username so I know from experience that sometimes people stop editing and return in a few years and prefer to start with a new account so I wondered if you had a similar situation. But it was merely curiosity I realize it is none of my business.

And, for what it's worth, I don't know if there is a house POV at AE. I've seen both new editors and experienced admins face sanctions. Most of the time, I find myself arguing against sanctions because the ones handed out at AE are often more severe than ANI. But I've also argued for sanctions when I felt someone was unlikely to change disruptive behavior. So, I'm not sure what POV I'm bringing except that I believe people make mistakes and I believe in second chances. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Topic ban enforcement

It is not your job to enforce topic bans. If there is an issue, discuss it with the user, point it out in the venue, or file an WP:AE. Don't revert them repeatedly. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:04, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I reverted NBSB twice, hardly "repeatedly." Have you also advised them to stop violating their ban? I did, before the second revert. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 20:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it's a violation, so no I did not advise them of that. Again, let the admins deal with it, as requested by an admin. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

This advice seems to conflict with WP:BANREVERT. Rhoark (talk) 04:30, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

@Rhoark: edits were on WP:AE and were not in clear violation of topic ban. But you're right... WP:BANREVERT does apply. Honestly I typically think of BANREVERT for site banned users, not topic banned ones. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:22, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

@Salvidrim: Thanks! But actually I don't know why. Does that mean I have to give the barnstar back? -Starke Hathaway (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

(Redacted) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Wrong guess, sorry. I'd be interested to know how you arrived at that conclusion. But I will cop to reading wikiinaction, which evidently puts me in the company of you, Liz, and, well, Ryulong. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 18:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps I've been misled indeed (in which case I apologize). I never meant to offend or impose. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 18:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Lily Rabe

Thanks for this edit of yours. That vandalism is the reason why the Paulson article is currently protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit. Dismas|^(talk) 18:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Dismas: Thanks for the kind note. While doing a quick Google to see if that was a good edit, I did notice that those two appear to be a popular pairing on Tumblr... -Starke Hathaway (talk) 18:11, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Bounty (Reward) article

I received your message on the talk page of the article, thank you for your suggestions. I'll pay more attention from now on. I apologize for uploading a version not complete and accurate. I would give some information by adding to the paragraph "Historical Examples" two more subsections about the 17th and 18th centuries. I would focus on how the penal system changed because of the introduction of the rewards and how its implementation simplified the fight against crime. Do you think it could be appropriate? Patrick.ucciardo (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Patrick.ucciardo, thanks for your note. First, please don't feel as though you need to apologize for trying to improve an article. If anyone should apologize, it's me for not taking the time to work on improving that section instead of just reverting it. I think your additions are good ones, especially for explaining the origins of the bounty. My main concern is that we make sure those additions are properly sourced and that the article doesn't focus too tightly on that one topic. This could mean trimming down that topic or expanding some of the other parts. I see that you have some draft copy up in your sandbox on this topic-- what if we were to work on that together? -Starke Hathaway (talk) 20:45, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Starke Hathaway, it would be a pleasure to work with you on this article. Since I have to improve bounty (reward) page as a part of an exam, I have a deadline (last days of this month). So if you agree with that, there's no problem we can work together. Let me know what you're going to decide. Patrick.ucciardo (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Happy Yuletide

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Thanks, Rhoark, season's greetings to you and yours, too. Here's hoping for a great 2016. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 01:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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AR-15

I've started a thread to determine whether or not we categorize AR-15 pattern rifles as "assault rifles". See Talk:AR-15#‎Assault rifle, semi-automatic rifle, or both? Felsic2 (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Why I thought it was a drive-by

RE: Gamergate. When the tag was added, @Rhoark: didn't start the discussion as to why he thinks it was unbalanced or out of date in the talk page. That smells of a drive-by to me. Zero Serenity ^{(talk - contributions)} 16:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

No harm done. If you'd like a read of Rhoark's objections I'd suggest you take a look at the ongoing discussions of draft article he recently moved out of his userspace. -Starke Hathaway (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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Request for openion

Article Legitimacy (criminal law) has been requested to be moved to Legitimacy (law) requesting your openion at Talk:Legitimacy_(criminal_law)

Mahitgar (talk) 02:58, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings

Hello Starke Hathaway: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 16:41, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Lies, damned lies ....

I am a lawyer (almost). So I can assure you all lawyers are lazy liars - ¿true or false?

¿Perhaps better to repair lies and link perjury et. al. rather than be lazy and just eliminate? Saludos, Timpo (talk) 17:03, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hey

Hey Starke, long time, no see! I didn't know you were a wikipedian too! Come say hi sometime? Benjamin (talk) 22:21, 21 December 2019 (UTC)