User talk:Spiderone

Someone not knowing how to do a new section or signing at the top of this page

I'd like to know if that's supposed to be there or not, and maybe figure out who did it. Not trying to seem bad, just hanging around the noticeboards and stumbled into your talk page. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 18:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I don't seem to understand your question AstatineEnjoyer could you please try phrasing it differently? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

There's a string of text at the top of this page about a page regarding a Romanian(?) football team. I'm just wondering if it has a reason to exist, as the Archive Bot hasn't seemed to notice it yet. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 20:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

AstatineEnjoyer thanks for pointing it out, I've now deleted the comment as it was a few years old. As they didn't sign and date the comment, it will never archive sadly. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:52, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I'll leave you alone now. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 20:54, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Manta prod

Hello. Just a request if you could please consider undoing your revert of the Prod for Manta (platform)?

I included sock/UPE editors in the reasoning because from the names and contributions of Wiki119988 and Wiki102030. Thank you, 180.150.37.213 (talk) 00:40, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Neither of those accounts are banned. It might be the case that they forgot their password and created another account. I don't see why that's a reason to delete. Take it to WP:AfD if you must. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Parul Mishra

Hi @Spiderone,

Could you please add 'Article for deletion/Parul Mishra' deletion discussion page to the deletion sorting for the following topics as well: India and Music.

Thanks! Risu43 (talk) 11:19, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Sorted, thanks Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick action. Risu43 (talk) 11:33, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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For some reason there is not a page for the new Netflix show. Would you be able to work with me to make any changes necessary to launch the page? FrozenMan (talk) 19:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

FrozenMan please add reliable sources that discuss this Netflix show in significant detail Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:52, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of first women's ice hockey internationals per country: 1987-1999

I would like to clarirfy that my source are other articles in Wikipedia whom are as well required to list references for the information, the page either correctly relies on information already referenced in the team Wikipedia pagd and validated, or offers an incentive to update the information on the team page. Dweisz94 (talk) 21:03, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:08, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Actually I apologize, I would like to ask if I were to directly email the IIHF to provide a list, how would I be able to provide references? Dweisz94 (talk) 21:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Please ask the IIHF to upload the data if possible, either onto a web page or, if it's already available, to point us in the right direction with a URL. Thanks. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:32, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Asking them to upload it to a web page is asking too much that's like advising how they should operate instead of just doing a fan a favour Dweisz94 (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

My apologies and I would prefer deleting this message Dweisz94 (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Vilikesa AfD

Just to address your argument there, since I am extremely surprised someone whose opinion I generally respect would !vote that way: the whole point of YOUNGATH requiring prolonged coverage is to prevent regional pieces on children's sports achievements from being used toward GNG. That he's so early in his career that prolonged coverage isn't possible is exactly why it's inappropriate to consider those two pieces SIGCOV. This is a child who has never played even semi-professionally and has only just been promoted to a tiny nation's U17 team; if that coverage was acceptable, I can guarantee every single state-level youth footballer would have a page, and that's clearly not in line with Wikipedia's scope. Please, please reconsider. JoelleJay (talk) 18:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

JoelleJay I can see what you mean. The main difference in our opinions, though, is that I wouldn't consider the coverage to be local. Fiji Times and FBC News are national level sources. In the same vein, Ethan Nwaneri clearly meets WP:GNG despite coverage not being prolonged and is the same age as this Fijian player. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:56, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

The "prolonged" clause applies to all coverage, not just local coverage. And I think there is an enormous difference between a kid who plays in the English premier league and a kid who isn't even on one of the semi-pro teams in a country of <1 million that has had little international success in football. We have no indication that this player on a youth team will ever play professionally, and we have plenty of evidence that playing professionally for OFC teams does not correspond reliably to GNG anyway. I just do not see how two interview-based articles (there's a strong consensus that content that merely reports what someone said or felt is not independent or secondary and does not count towards GNG, and at least the first source is almost entirely that) in regional media (how can we make a distinction in prestige between a "national newspaper" and a newspaper circulating within a city of the same population?) published in the same week can be enough to override YOUNGATH. Do you think we should have articles on every kid in Austin who gets a couple interviews in the Austin-American Statesman and the Austin Chronicle about their youth caps? JoelleJay (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I can't make a good argument that the coverage is prolonged because it just isn't. What I will say, though, is that it meets everything else that is required by WP:YOUNGATH. Given that the article does meet WP:GNG as well, I would say that's likely enough in this case. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Wait, how does the article meet GNG (YOUNGATH is describing what constitutes GNG for young players) when it's mostly just interview material? I just have a lot of trouble reconciling this argument with how you've !voted in the past...(e.g. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Oryan_Velox, which was a nearly identical situation). JoelleJay (talk) 20:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I felt that Velox failed both whereas I still see two decent sources with the other guy. I also thought YOUNGATH was tied to WP:NSPORTS rather than GNG so you can pass GNG but fail YOUNGATH. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

YOUNGATH emphasizes what is already stated in SUSTAINED/BLP1E. It doesn't introduce new restrictions, rather it clarifies that young athletes do not enjoy the (potential) exemption from BLP1E afforded elsewhere in NSPORT and gives quick-ref examples of the coverage excluded by NOTNEWS/ROUTINE (like routine interviews and local press). JoelleJay (talk) 22:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to strike my !vote for now. You're probably correct but I need to have a look at this another time when I can think straight. I'm currently spending a lot of energy fighting at AfDs for WP:V and WP:NOR. At least this Fijian footballer actually exists... Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:06, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Spiderone, and I totally understand the frustration with ridiculous AfD arguments, there seems to be an influx lately of people totally ignoring P&Gs to keep random low-level athletes (e.g. the Kaszuba one, plus Lihini and the newest activity at Robbins). JoelleJay (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

JoelleJay I think that we can both agree that we are at a crisis point when it comes to WP:N and WP:V. I hope that N and V emerge victorious otherwise the encyclopaedia that I fell in love with may meet its demise. I sincerely do not want that to be the outcome. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:17, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

BeritaSatu

Hello, and thanks for moving Berita Satu (TV program) to Berita Satu. Its website spells it BeritaSatu, but that name was protected and then temporarily salted after some sockpuppetry problems. What would you recommend? 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:8453:DBFF:FE05:6E2F (talk) 10:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't see any salted titles. BeritaSatu is currently a redirect. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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