User talk:Sj/Arc8

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

Hello Sj! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 944 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

David C. Page - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Jenny Preece - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 05:18, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Pinball[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Pinball. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 16:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})[reply]

Invitation to Speak at the Massachusetts Library Association's Annual Conference[edit]

Hi Sj,

How are you doing? I'm writing you to see if you might be interested in speaking at the Massachusetts Library Association's Annual Conference, which is being held in Hyannis, MA, April 28 - 30. I've been familiar with your work on the OLPC project and through the Internet Archive, and thought it might be very interesting for librarians to hear from you about your views on the need and uses for free and open materials in education and how that fits in with libraries.

I realize this is somewhat out of the blue and I'm not even sure if you do speaking engagements of this sort, but if it is something that might interest you, please contact me at mcolford@bpl.org, or 617-859-2389 and we could discuss this further.

Thanks for your time,
Michael R. Colford
___________________________________________________________
Michael R. Colford | Director, Resource Services/Information Technology
BPL | v 617.859.2389 | f 617.424.8617

To learn more about the Boston Public Library, visit http://www.bpl.org
Download ebooks and audiobooks at http://overdrive.bpl.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colford (talk • contribs) 21:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Michael, were you just in Boston for the winter ALA meeting? Barring a schedule conflict I would be glad to speak at the conference. I give a few of those presentations each year; it is my favorite one to give, since I see the role of libraries becoming vastly more important and high-profile as information management becomes part of the daily life of everyone who uses the Internet or a [local, offline] digital library. I will follow up by mail. +sj + 06:15, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm jealous! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2010 January newsletter[edit]

We are half way through round one of the WikiCup. We've had some shakeups regarding late entries, flag changes and early dropouts, but the competition is now established- there will be no more flag changes or new competitors. Congratulations to Sasata (submissions), our current leader, who, at the time of writing, has more listed points than Hunter Kahn (submissions) and TonyTheTiger (submissions) (second and third place respectively) combined. A special well done also goes to Fetchcomms (submissions)- his artcle Jewel Box (St. Louis, Missouri) was the first content to score points in the competition.

Around half of competitors are yet to score. Please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. 64 of the 149 current competitors will advance to round 2- if you currently have no points, do not worry, as over half of the current top 64 have under 50 points. Everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places in round 2! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, by email or on IRC. Good luck! J Milburn, Garden, iMatthew and The ed17 Delivered by JCbot (talk) at 00:20, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Credits awarded after the end of round one but before round two may be claimed in round two, but remember the rule that content must have been worked on in some significant way during 2010 by you for you to claim points. The groups for round two will be placed up shortly, and the submissions' pages will be blanked. This round will continue until 28 April, when the top two users from each group, as well as 16 wildcards, will progress to round three. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup; thank you to all doing this last round, and particularly to those helping at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, by email or on IRC. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox, iMatthew and The ed17 Delivered by JCbot (talk) at 00:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

referential[edit]

re:

Sock[edit]

Just so you'd know, Eddstonham (talk · contribs) the editor you were telling me about on my page, he's been indef as a sock of User Eddstonham (talk · contribs). And the article he created (→ Cambridge time traveller ←) was read, verified and tagged by me for CSD under WP:CSD#G11 for its blatant advertising tone and content. I know what I'm doing and I don't usually do this unless I really go through the article's content first before I tag anything for Speedy, his sock User:User Eddstonham apparently taunted me and made some personal attack towards me after I speedied the article page. Nothing personal, I'm just doing my part for the community and Wikipedia. That's all. Cheers and regards! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™} 10:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

JPatrickBedell redirect[edit]

You speedily deleted a JPatrickBedell redirect with R3, but there's a number of reliable sources that mention it. Can I repost the redirect, or if controversial, where would the discussion be? Galatee (talk) 17:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, you've replied to the message below mine a day ago now. Could you provide guidance for my request please? Galatee (talk) 02:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Galatee, I don't see a link to http://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=JPatrickBedell from any of those reports. Google suggests that no webpages link to that page. People do link to his userpage, User:JPatrickBedell, which is still there. If you think the particular redirect that was deleted should exist, please explain why on Talk:John Patrick Bedell. I've moved this thread there for context. See also: http://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=Special:WhatLinksHere/John_Patrick_Bedell

Cheers, –SJ + 01:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for the discussion. Galatee (talk) 18:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI[edit]

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Inactive admin email. Ucucha 20:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That seems appropriately kind and inviting -- both inviting a return and making this a special process to improve security, where adminship can be restored by any crat in the future. –SJ + 21:50, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CSAIL pics[edit]

Since you offered, here is the list of MIT CSAIL people who have articles that lack pictures: User:Raul654/CSAIL (I updated it a few moments ago to strike a few people whose articles have gotten pics since I originally compiled the list)

Good hunting. Raul654 (talk) 07:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility chat[edit]

Hello sj, we have set up an irc channel #wikimedia-accessibility and an entry page at the Usability wiki (http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accessibility_Initiative). I hope to see you there soon. Cheers, Lecartia (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For your comment, thanks[edit]

Bwa? O_o...apparently talkback templates don't work on here? Silver seren^C 19:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Embassy and Wikimania 2010[edit]

Hi, I got your message yesterday on meta, going to look into it. Thanks for welcoming me. On a lighter note, I won the Wikimania scholarship and will be going to Poland. Hope to see you there, bye! --Abbasjnr (talk) 05:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Location of next Boston meetup[edit]

There's a geonotice for the June 14 Boston meetup scheduled to begin on May 15 for editors in Massachusetts (see here). On our meetup.com page, you mentioned our get-together will be somewhere in Harvard Square, but I don't believe a specific location was given. Do you have a place in mind? The sooner that's determined and posted, the less confusion there will likely be for newcomers. Cheers, Emw (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is the date for this meetup June 14 or 15? Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston says June 15, but the geonotice says June 14. Tim Pierce (talk) 00:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is now June 15, since I'm not raound on the 14th and my coorganizer may not be either. I'll try to get the geonotice to update~ –SJ + 01:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators can update the 'BostonWikinotice' message here: http://wiki.alquds.edu/?query=MediaWiki:Geonotice.js. Emw (talk) 01:53, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Problem fixed, thanks to good folks on IRC. Emw (talk) 02:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you update the meetup.com page to show that we're meeting at the Grafton Street Pub on June 15 and not Red Bones BBQ on June 14? Best, Emw (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done! –SJ +

MW 2010 pic[edit]

See File:MW2010.jpg Raul654 (talk) 17:31, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! We did have a great time... –SJ + 19:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need your help on something different[edit]

Maybe you never come across this, but I'm in need of your help of deleting my contributions on the Lockheed U-2 Spyplane article. I know, it sounded weird because most of the time people argue about how their stuff got deleted and wanted it put back on the wiki. But in my case, as a fed up and frustrated contributor, I wanted to have whatever I wrote and contributed in the last 8 months on the U-2 article to be removed, but the power that be, admins/editors or whomever they are, won't let me.

It all started almost two weeks ago, I floated few ideas in the discussion page about creating a new section, nobody responded, and I took it as no objections raised. I did more research, and put more new info to the article, with proper references and notes. But as soon as I did that, within minutes, it was reverted. So, I started to remove what I wrote, figuring might as well give up and pick things up. By the time I deleted all my stuff from the article, I found that the references number dropped from 53 to 32, and the article byte size reduced by more than 22%. Maybe because seeing the article now missing a big chunk of things, the power that be, came back and said no removal, citing licensing agreement or something.

Today, just few minutes ago, I went to Google to see if others have the similar problem like I have, most(if not all) were about their stuff got deleted. And I learned a new word, deletionists, which I have no doubt you heard of it. In the whole time, nobody questioned the person reverted my editing in the first place, just that I can't remove what I wrote. I know, I'm just a 8 months newbie contributor and can't compare with other editors, admin, or whatever high up people. But I just wish that if I'm not able to support what I write any more on that page, at least give me the right to remove what I wrote, and restore the peace and the article the way it was 8 months ago.

Maybe this is just waste of time, but at least I have to try.Bryan TMF (talk) 00:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tomorrow's meetup[edit]

If the people who've listed themselves here as "planning on being there" or "definitely will try" actually attend tomorrow's meetup, we could have 20 people coming. This includes meetup.com's "Yes" respondee's (but not the "Maybe" crowd). I called Grafton Street yesterday and let them know we'd be coming by with 20 people, plus or minus a few. Emw (talk) 11:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:WM06banner[edit]

Template:WM06banner has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. WOSlinker (talk) 19:50, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar on Nokia[edit]

Nokia N810 Running OLPC Sugar as promised. Liorkaplan (talk) 06:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fabulous, thank you. I'll tell Guy I am blogging about it, and hope to see the development continue... (He is amazing and dedicated... but also stubborn once he sets his mind on doing something a particular way :) –SJ +

Ran Morin[edit]

I've prodded Ran Morin because it's a BLP with no sources. Be sure to provide sources. :) Everard Proudfoot (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed :) –SJ +

I think it's a drastic step to make sure that people provide sources instead of just letting them go. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 23:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

July meetup[edit]

Given that we had about 15 people for the June meetup in Cambridge, would it be better to find a more spacious place than Red Bones for the July meetup? I'd like to put up a geonotice, which would start on July 1. Cheers, Emw (talk) 23:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Meetup/Boston mentions Le's Restaurant, but http://www.meetup.com/wikipedia-5/ mentions Pho Pasteur. The address seems the same, but the different names may cause confusion. Emw (talk) 17:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Peters' donation (sic)[edit]

Sj, there is a lot of debate on the Did You Know queue over Jeffrey's donation of two articles. Jeffrey has made over 200 donations to DYK and no one questions the quality of his work as acceptable. However he has been banned by Arbcom. I understand in the past that other banned users have only been able to supply work to en: after gaining special permission. I have read the exchange at wikimedia, but it is not clear if you realised that he was banned from en:. I am looking here I have no "history" with Mr Peters but I understand that he was banned despite his valuable contributions. Would you care to comment on what we should do in the case of a banned user. Victuallers (talk) 22:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link, Victuallers. As I replied on some of the DYK discussions, I don't think the ban status of the author of a work should matter, if the work is freely licensed, and well cited and verifiable. I think W:BAN as currently written is clear here. I see no need to either glorify a banned author or boycott their writing. (And I don't understand why people refer to this as a 'donation' any more than all of our work on the projects is freely donated.) –SJ +

"Distributed Wikipedia" proposals[edit]

While putting together a little collection of historical proposals to replace Wikipedia's wiki structure by some kind of distributed revision control (a list I had been musing for a while and was now prompted to put online by the "Federating Wikipedia" talk on Sunday), I noticed that you seem to have been interested in this topic, too (at least back in 2005). So maybe you'd like to take a look: User:HaeB/Timeline of distributed Wikipedia proposals. Regards, HaeB (talk) 01:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey WP:GLAM/SI opportunity[edit]

Recently we have been working with the Smithsonian Institution to create workshops between local user communities and Smithsonian employees in an effort to better cover their collections and material on their websites and create content related to their expertise (which are all sadly lacking). Most of our focus right now is in the DC Area but the Smithsonian Coordinator asked if we had a way to interact with the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, MA. I noticed you are pretty active in organizing meetups up there. Would you be interested in helping me find some users in your area to work with them? Would you mind me giving her your e-mail? Sadads (talk) 17:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I look forward to hearing more about it. Of course you can share my email and phone # - they are published on my userpage. I'd love to help you turn your work connecting SI and DC Wikipedians into a general resource for other groups in the DC area as well -- there's an ongoing LOC project that needs some attention too which came up during our spring Museums and the Web event. –SJ + 00:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eventually, this will need a full strength chapter with regular meetings to support general outreach in the area. I am going to keep prodding for user support on this end and the Smithsonian is really excited. I also briefly stepped in to the Local public library system today and talked to one of their Librarians and he seemed very interested in doing stuff to. I hope not to stretch myself to thin and get some more people pushing and prodding. I will share your e-mail name and phone number with the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian coordinator asked that we use the same project space, and I agree, so if you start planning stuff, keep us informed on glam, Thanks. Sadads (talk) 01:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I told the Campus ambassadors for WP:UPP that I would be putting them in contact with you for this as soon as we get their username stuff together, Sadads (talk) 17:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, wrong acronym WP:USPP :)Sadads (talk) 10:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki-Conference NYC (2nd annual)[edit]

Our 2nd annual Wiki-Conference NYC has been confirmed for the weekend of August 28-29 at New York University.

There's still plenty of time to join a panel, or to propose a lightning talk or an open space session. Register for the Wiki-Conference here. And sign up here for on-wiki notification. All are invited!
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 15:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fortis College[edit]

Can you tell me why the Fortis College Wikipedia page was marked as "written like an advertisement"? I tried to make it very resourceful. The only thing I can think of you are referring to is the BBB rating, but to me that alone isn't indicative of an advertisement. Any insight would be great, because I'm currently interlinking the relevant city pages with the Fortis school and I would hate for it all to be deleted. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thermanson (talk • contribs) 01:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it looks like we're not on the same page. First of all, your counter example, ITT Technical Institute, has to my count over twenty location pages linking to the school's Wikipedia page. Some examples are Las Vegas, Nevada, Memphis, Tennessee, Orlando, Florida, Columbus, Ohio, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Wichita, Kansas, Syracuse, New York, Knoxville, Tennessee, Tallahassee, Florida, San Bernardino, California, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Green Bay, Wisconsin, and more. From this and other examples, I'm not sure the Fortis College Wikipedia page and the links pointing to it are being treated the same as other institutions.

I don't believe the purpose of the educational sections on the location pages is to only point out "significant and notable institutes". First of all, this is a highly subjective matter. Additionally, these location pages are setup to be resourceful, not exclusive. I believe adding onto the lists on these pages would only enhance the resourcefulness of the page. Look at any education sections of any city websites. Do most of them prove their "noteworthyness"? No, they don't. In fact, I'm not sure it's fair to include some institutions, but not allow others.

In response to when you said "Once we get to the stage where all such institutions *are* mentioned, it will likely be less seen as advertising, and just seen as valuable information in the info-grid.)" To me, you are saying that it will be seen as "valuable information" once all institutions are mentioned. However, when I bring the pages one step closer to doing so, it is frowned upon. Wikipedia pages are dynamic and constantly being added on to enhance their value. Most pages do not start out by having all of the information they end up with. That is the beauty of Wikipedia. Pages constantly evolve and mature by the help of others. So again, by adding Fortis College, I am adding to the "valuable information in the info-grid."

I originally linked all of the location pages to the Fortis College website, but I was told I should create a Fortis College Wikipedia page instead, and then link the location pages to the Fortis College Wikipedia page. I have done what I was told to, but am still experiencing opposition.

Different people will offer you different perspectives. The editors are a team of tens of thousands; don't expect immediate consistency. –SJ + 19:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine with merging the two pages, am not sure how. Before I do so, however, I want to make sure when someone types in "Fortis Institute" in Wikipedia, they come to a Fortis page, since some locations are called "Fortis Institute".

We have a system of millions of "redirects". If you look at the current Fortis Institute page you will see those are just a simple line of wikimarkup. Searching should work for you as expected. –SJ + 19:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. —comment added by Thermanson (talk • contribs) 14:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number of edits inflection point[edit]

Thanks for your interest! I've responded on my talk page - in brief, the fastest edit rate was from May 10 to June 22, 2007. Wnt (talk) 19:47, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

POTD[edit]

Hi Sj, evidiently I was looking at the wrong page when I did that. The protected template at the time was not formatted correctly and I believed I was looking at the protected version when I formatted it. Sorry for the mix-up and thanks for fixing the unprotected version! Regards, Woody (talk) 10:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks sj for the call and your patience![edit]

hope i'm placing this in the right spot. Excited to dive into the librarian content. Cheers! Efmcleanckm (talk) 17:06, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mozilla Drumbeat Festival[edit]

Hi,

I was to come to Barcelona but Mozilla awarded me a $500 travel scholarship which unfortunately isn't enough to cover my travel costs. Hope you guys hold up a successful WikiTent. Bye:-)Abbasjnr (talk) 08:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, so you've been to Mombasa?? I didn't know that...When was that? I'm doing great in school. Africa Online is doing great here. My uncle, who is an IT lecturer actually has an Africa Online Broadband which I used whilst participating in the Kiswahili Wikipedia Challenge. Internet is now so popular here, hence several internet companies have sprung up...By the way, I just realised that you were subscribed to the Wikimedia Kenya mailing list :) Abbasjnr (talk) 08:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the Public Policy Initiative Assessment Team wants You![edit]

Hi SJ, When I saw your name from the Editorial Team participant list, it was reminder of your earlier interest in the project. So I wanted to tell you that we will be testing out assessment metrics in the Wikiproject: United States Public Policy, I know you were interested in some of the evaluation plans for this project, but I don't know how busy you are. If you have the time, I was hoping you would be interested in assessing articles with the Public Policy Initiative. There is more info about assessment on the 9/13/2010 Signpost. If you're interested or just curious you can sign up on the project page or just contact me. Thanks! ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 21:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comments re the WDL links[edit]

-SJ+

Reviewed your comments re the WDL external links - appreciate your help with tightening up on these. I can certainly integrate your suggestions e.g. - audio, primary source. I was expanding as I went so there is inconsistency there and I can go back and conform. I will mention that we don't always have curators' audio/video, more often, we just have a feature that permits "listen to this page". Regarding the "retrieved on" - will make that change. Was following a pilot guideline manual (draft not yet approved) recommended by LOC on that one...but we will just toss that aside.

LOC Context - Your comments on putting the two refs in context is helpful. Spoke with M. Rago about this and so now I'll work on how best to do that.

Will go back and look over the entries that I have done before moving ahead on new ones.

We have an intern who will be following in my steps to do content en francais.

thanks again. If I'm posting my note in the wrong place, just point me to where this should go.

Efmcleanckm (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An update from adopt a user[edit]

Hi there Sj! You may be wondering, what have I done to sound the alarm this time? Nothing. I'm messaging you in regards to the adopt-a-user program, which currently has a backlog of users wishing to be adopted. This doesn't make much sense, as we have a considerable list of users offer adoption, so there shouldn't be any backlog. I've begun to eliminate this backlog myself through a matching program, but I need your help to make it work. Of course, adoptees and adopters don't have to go through there, but I believe it helps eliminate the backlog because someone is actively matching pairs.

On the list of adopters, I have modified the middle column to say "Interests." It's easier working with other users that have similar interests, so if it's not too much to ask, could you add your interests in the middle column? For example, if I was interested in hurricanes, computers, business, and ... reptiles? I would place those in the middle column. Counter-vandalism and the like can also be included (maintenance should be used as the general term). The more interests, the better, since adoptees can learn more about you and choose the one they feel most comfortable working with. The information about when you're most active and other stuff can go into the "Notes" section to the right.

Finally, I've gone around and asked adoptees (and will in the future) to fill in a short survey so adopters can take the initiative and contact users they feel comfortable working with. We all know that most adoptees just place the adopt me template on their user page and leave it - so it's up to us to approach them and offer adoption. So, please take a look at the survey, adopt those that fit your interests, and maybe watchlist it so you can see the interests of adoptees and adopt one that fits your interests in the future.

Once again, thank you for participating in the adopt-a-user program! If you wish to respond to this post, please message me on my talk page.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Netalarm (talk) at 05:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

too much?[edit]

Hello Sj - wanted to show you where we are with our external linking re the WDL - check with you to see if this style is too lengthy.

* World Digital Library presentation of original language title or translation of title.  
Partner Institution.  Primary source {item type} with summary description, {#} images with enhanced 
view and zoom features, text to speech capability {with curator video}.  {Language(s) of the source}.  
Links to related content.   Content available as {file format).  {Brief statement of notability.}

Would you rather I place this in the WikiProject:Libraries or GLAMs area for comment? Efmcleanckm (talk) 13:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's a good idea! –SJ + 01:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

gettin' some flack...losing time spent[edit]

Hey there Sj - FRIDAY!

First, thank you for your patient coaching for our work with the World Digital Library.

I'm writing to let you know feedback on our link format has been that it is too "advertisement"-like and too lengthy. Another reversion trigger is the use of the original language in the title of the article - some wikipedians are reading this and no more and rejecting that based on the fact that it is living in WK EN.

From our standpoint, we always use the article/item's original language title as a scholarly practice with the English title immediately following. So, this is my way of saying that I really don't see us NOT including the original language with the translation.

Need to find the balance here so that we can continue with our work, but I'm not too willing to move ahead with current format in light of having what we formulated undone. Wondered how you see making multiple contexts here come together a little better? Would like to hear your view of what a middle ground between the very generic and succinct early LOC format and the more value-added revision would consist of, and whether we will be able to bring folks together better?

Thanks so much.

Efmcleanckm (talk) 13:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updates inline on-wiki! -SJ

BiB[edit]

HI SJ:

Thanks for that nice shout-out on your blog. Would love to send you an invite to check out the prototype when it is ready, in a couple months? May I? To what email address?

Also, you know, happy to give you gratis all the books we end up publishing and, later on, assuming we've a premium membership, talk a little bit about how we could give OLPC free premium access...Though that's much farther down our road!

Oh and I'm rnash@rnash.com and rnash@thinkcursor.com

Bestest, Richard

RN - sure thing, send an invite to <meta.sj at gmail>

Jon Stewart[edit]

It would be even funnier if you did attend the rally but weren't the giant tea bag guy I added to your user page. Did you? Narco (talk) 03:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's the best addition to the "...am not..." list to date! The great thing about giant-teabag outfits is that they offer a certain amount of identity protection. :-) Whoever that Anchorage resident was, I reckon he's welcome to use my name as a pseudonym. And I was elsewhere that weekend -- but having an equally sanity-restoring time. –SJ +

Uninvolved admin needed to close an RfC[edit]

Currently there is need for an uninvolved admin to look at and close if needed and RfC on Transcendental Meditation. The RfA at this point rests on a vote. Your help would be very much appreciated.(olive (talk) 03:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I'm not sure how I missed your message.[edit]

Just answered your inquiry from September on my Talk page. --Pleasantville (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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speedy deletion for notability concerns! a sad state of affairs. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:44, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Census 2010 data[edit]

Do you know if there are concrete plans for how to update information in Wikipedia derived from the 2000 Census when the 2010 Census information comes out? (There are about 50,000 citations of the 2000 Census.)--Pleasantville (talk) 15:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good question. We should chat with Ram-Man et al about updating the censusbots. –SJ + 21:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

I am not sure if this is what you intended Talk:Transcendental_Meditation#Comments. The first suggestion has 4 outside comments and the 5th three so will wait for further responses. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. The further discussion seems useful, I don't see a rush. It's good that most of the active editors are aware of the importance of getting input from other readers. (you could even add a cleanup tag that directs readers to a talk-page poll, if more input is desired.) –SJ + 19:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Further comments[edit]

Was it your intention to summarize the RfC being discussed here? [1] Will made a good point after I made changes that 4 external editors supported option 1 and 3 supported option 5. Thus I reverted my change. He also made a good point that issues such as characterizations and marketing apply equally well to both the movement and technique. Wondering if you could clarify your opinions referred too in that section. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:26, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not important if the comment you wrote was a "summary" of the Rfc or not. I feel that your comment was clear and simple, easy to understand. The current interpretation, explicitly expressed by at the least two editors, is that you supported a consensus around suggestion #5, but it will be fine to hear more precision or even to stand corrected. Edith Sirius Lee (talk) 19:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doc, I understand what you mean - would you not expect issues that apply to both movement and technique to show up in a summary article?

Edith, I am not commenting on the merits of any of the options presented. I simply note that there is a consensus around that option among those who have an opinion -- it is a compromise almost everyone is comfortable with. Reaching that level of consensus is a fine outcome. –SJ + 06:14, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SJ, I don't mind the outcome you've suggested for the RfC, but I am concerned about your approach. An RfC isn't a poll so merely counting up the numbers on each side doesn't seem like the right technique. If matters are always handled by majority vote then one side will always prevail since, among involved editors, there are far more on one side than on the other. Some of those editors are single purpose accounts who only edit this topic. Could you explain your view of this issue? Will Beback talk 08:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Will, I think we agree - RfC's aren't polls, they are a way to reach useful consensus through discussion. I share your wariness of single-purpose accounts and the tyranny of the majority. If involved editors were strongly divided, it might be necessary to look elsewhere for a resolution. But 90% support for an option suggests it is a good basis for consensus, not a controversial idea pushed by a majority faction.

I reworded the summary a bit to emphasize the qualitative nature of consensus and the discussion so far. Unanimous support should be possible here, since the only specific opposition was previously in support of the popular option. –SJ + 21:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your clarification. We will figure out have to make something work I am sure in line with this consensus. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SJ, Thanks for your helpful reply. I'm glad we agree. Will Beback talk 14:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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