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94th Academy Awards FL Draft Update
Hi there,
Thank you for adding info regarding both the Will Smith-Chris Rock altercation and the controversy regarding the relegated tech awards. They were well written and concise unlike. I made a few adjustments myself. Notably, I've added another paragraph under Ceremony information describing COVID-19 health and safety protocols enacted during the ceremony (the third paragraph, FYI). I also added a sentence mentioning the moment of silence for Ukraine at the end of the In Memoriam section similar to the sentence describing the moment of silence for 9/11 victims during the 74th Academy Awards. Now, my only concern is what to do about the Oscars Fan Favorite and Cheer Moment (fake) award. While it was not an actual award, it was part of the festivies (sort of). I'm not sure how it should be addressed within the article. If you are willing to take a stab at it, feel free to do so (unless you feel it's unnecessary to mention it).
Also, there is a dispute about winners markup. Joeyconnick, thinks that there should not be a double dagger indicating winners since he claims its redundant due to it being listed first, but back when I did earlier Oscar ceremonies, I was told their had to be a markup for winners listed in tables other than bold and listed first due to Manual of Style standards and accessibility concerns for visually impaired readers. I really don't want to get into an edit war, but I want this list promoted to FL.
Anyways, I'm surprised we were able to report on this very tumultuous ceremony in a fairly neutral and objective manner. Thanks for your help. As always, the draft is listed under User:Birdienest81/sandbox thirty-three.
- --Birdienest81talk 11:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: Thanks for the feedback. I'll look into the other sections later. For the daggers, I think they are necessary because some years may have ties, so the first film listed wouldn't be the only winner. Even if a year doesn't have a tie, the dagger should still be there so a reader using a screen reader would know there wasn't a tie. RunningTiger123 (talk) 12:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: I've finished some more revisions, including adding a short-ish paragraph for the "Oscars Fan Favorite" and updating some sources. At this point, I'm pretty happy with where it's at, but I don't know how you're feeling about it. Feel free to keep making tweaks to it until you're happy. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @RunningTiger123:: Actually, it looks perfect. I'm honestly fine with how it looks since it covers all the basic and important information of this awards annal. I'll probably just add alt captions to the photos and double check for grammatical or spelling. My only concern is how to convinve Joeyconnick to not mess with the double daggers since it's supposed to be there for Accessibility purposes.
- Oh, I'll probably take a look at your most recent FLC for the 59th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards by at least tomorrow. Also, if you have any questions or if you need me to look up citations for the 74th Primetime Emmy Awards, feel free to give me a ping.
- --Birdienest81talk 04:33, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: I've finished some more revisions, including adding a short-ish paragraph for the "Oscars Fan Favorite" and updating some sources. At this point, I'm pretty happy with where it's at, but I don't know how you're feeling about it. Feel free to keep making tweaks to it until you're happy. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
74th Primetime Emmys host and venue info
Hi there,
With the announcement that Saturday Night Live comedian Kenan Thompson was selected to host this year's Primetime Emmy ceremony, I found some more information that may expound the response for Kenan himself and also more conformation that the ceremony will return to the Microsoft Theater (at least for now).
- One from the Los Angeles Times
- Another one from Deadline Hollywood
- One from Variety. It reads, "The 2022 Emmys will be a bit of a further return to form, with the show inside the Microsoft Theatre for the first time in three years."
- One that is the official press release from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.
Hope this helps.
- -- Birdienest81talk 00:12, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Tonight Show conflict GAN
Hello RunningTiger123, first off I just wanted to say thank you for starting the GAN review of 2010 Tonight Show conflict. I just wanted to give you a heads up that I might be a little delayed in responding to to your review points. I'll be traveling and might not have access to the internet. Just wanted to give you a heads up, thank you again. -- LuK3 (Talk) 11:09, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of 59th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards
74th Primetime Emmys (Main Ceremony and Creative) and 94th Academy Awards FLC
Hi there,
I've gotten more articles about last night's Creative Arts Emmy Awards and the Main Ceremony scheduled for next week. This time it's regarding COVID-19 protocols. According to this article, proof of negative COVID test is required for all attendees and production crew. Futhermore, there will be 94 tables on the main area closest to the stage to enforce social distancing due to showbiz guild protocols (similar to this year's Oscars). No masks are required for attendees, but production crew must wear one (Ironically, there was supposedly a masking rule at the Oscars for attendees sitting on the mezzanine in the back and those sitting on the balconies on the side, but apparently according to this photo authorized by AMPAS, no one in the mezzazine or balcony is wearing one—see top left of photo. Oh, well. I’m personally don’t wear masks since I got vaccinated unless required to and tend to avoid said places unless necessary like the doctor).
Oh, also, the 94th Oscars lost all three categories it was nominated for at the Creative Arts Emmys. I don't know how you want to address that. I'm not sure where I can find an article proving it. The official Television Academy list "The Oscars" for all nominations for every show since 2013. So it mucks up the count for each individual ceremony since 2013.
Anyways, if you can ask more folks to review the FLC for the 2022 Oscars, that would be swell. In the meantime, hope these nuggets help with the writing for the 74th Primetime Emmys.
- -- Birdienest81talk 09:04, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for 74th Primetime Emmy Awards
On 17 September 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 74th Primetime Emmy Awards, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 08:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Successful FLC
Way to go on getting this promoted! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of 94th Academy Awards
FAC review needed
Hi, RunningTiger123. Last year you reviewed List of career achievements by Yuzuru Hanyu for FL. Now the sister article Yuzuru Hanyu Olympic seasons is under review as FAC. So, I'd like to invite you to review it if you're interested and have time for it. We would really appreciate it. Regards. - Yolo4A4Lo (talk) 01:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
List of accolades received by CODA (2021 film) FLC and 74th Primetime Emmy Awards suggestions/advice/help
Hi there,
I was wondering if you could proofread List of accolades received by CODA (2021 film) for featured list promotion? I would appreciate the feedback.
Also, do you need me to research anything or add something to the 74th Primetime Emmy Awards so that it will be ready for a featured list candidacy? I will gladly look up information for you. If you want, you may credit me as co-nominator in the event you nominate the list for featured list nomination. I don't plan to nominate anything myself until maybe November.
- --Birdienest81talk 20:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: Since I did some work on the CODA list before its promotion and it seems to be doing okay at the moment, I'm going to stay away from reviewing it for the time being – while not strictly disallowed, I think it's best for reviews to come from uninvolved users. (And don't worry about nominating it without me, I'd forgotten about it for a while.) As to the Emmys article, I'm waiting to get a little further from the event before pursuing FLC, just so it's sure to be stable. I'll probably start with the Creative Arts ceremony once I have time since it's more straightforward. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
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TFL notification
Hi, RunningTiger123. I'm just posting to let you know that 59th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for January 30. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:44, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
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Full names of characters on Award nominations
Hi, as the names of characters on Award ceremonies must use full names of characters. Examples: Ruby "Rue" Bennett and Siobhan "Shiv" Roy, both HBO characters. CastJared (talk) 07:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: Why do those articles have to use full names? Is there some sort of policy or guideline to support that? If not, I would argue it is more important to stick with what the sources state. Otherwise, how would we ensure that any one name is "correct"? (For instance, is Nicholas Braun's character on Succession Greg Hirsch, Gregory Hirsch, or Gregory "Greg" Hirsch? Without a source to specify otherwise, any of those is a "correct" full name.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 14:16, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Update: Per WP:BRD, I have reverted the pages to how they were before the changes started. RunningTiger123 (talk) 14:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that I saw that on their TV series articles, "Succession" and "Euphoria", which they have characters' full names with nicknames used. CastJared (talk) 15:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: Isn't that essentially citing another Wikipedia article? That's generally discouraged since there is no good way to ensure reliability (see WP:CIRCULAR). RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't realize that I saw that on their TV series articles, "Succession" and "Euphoria", which they have characters' full names with nicknames used. CastJared (talk) 15:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Somewhere Else (The Good Place)
On 22 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Somewhere Else (The Good Place), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ted Danson's role in "Somewhere Else", an episode of The Good Place, featured a nod to his previous role as a bartender? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Somewhere Else (The Good Place). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Somewhere Else (The Good Place)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Promotion of 74th Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards
Hi, the 54th NAACP Image Awards are about to approach, and I think this accolades table needs to be updated. CastJared (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- @CastJared: Are there any particular issues? If not, it should just be a case of copying the formatting from other awards for the new awards. RunningTiger123 (talk) 06:43, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
This article is still out of date and doesn't have 2023 awards involved. CastJared (talk) 13:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
95th Academy Awards and potential "In the News..."/Featured List status
Hi there,
As you probably heard the 95th Academy Awards ceremony is scheduled to air this upcoming Sunday night. One of the potential issues I am concerned with if the article will be good enough to be posted on the Main Page's "In the News..." section. At the moment, the article for the 2023 broadcast is littered with facts/trivia that is mostly uncited with reliable sources. I try to trim down on such facts that can be proven with reliable sources and try to keep that section tight and focused as possible. For example, I try to avoid facts that say "X person/film is the 16th overall person/film to achieve this distinction" unless the achievement has not occurred in a considerable amount of time. Also, the Andrea Riseborough nomination section seems bloated and appears to not be objective/neutral point of view. I tend to avoid "controversies" based on "snubs" because feedback from previous ceremony lists I have nominated for featured list status have indicated to make sure the article is maintaining a neutral point of view since there will always be people who complain that their favorite(s) got unfairly "snubbed." Also, I don't want the page to sound like a gossip article. So that's my dilemma at the moment.
In preparation, I've been working on a potential FLC-ready version of the awards on this sandbox page. I hope to one day transfer the content onto the actual article when it's ready. I usually wait until around July so as not to get into an edit war. If you have any advice regarding the articles, you can ping me back or reply below. I'll see if I can review the 74th Primetime Emmy Awards for featured list promotion around next week when I have more time. Thanks.
- --Birdienest81talk 02:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: Thanks for the heads up – I tagged a bunch of the trivia as "citation needed" a few weeks ago in the hopes that either (a) sources would be added or (b) the trivia would be removed. I can take a look this evening and try to parse it down. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: Okay, I've trimmed some of the fat from the trivia section. Some of the trivia could probably be trimmed further, but the key thing is that everything is sourced now (which is key for ITN). As to the Riseborough controversy, it doesn't actually seem too bad – there's probably some trimming that could also be done there, but I think it merits some discussion because it dominated Oscars talk for a while. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:26, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
74th Primetime Emmy Awards FLC and other stuff I'm up to...
Hi there,
As promised, I have reviewed the 74th Primetime Emmy Awards for featured list promotion. Also, thank you for slightly keeping an eye on 95th Academy Awards. I plan to cleanup the list over the next few months before submitting it for FLC on July 18. I am waiting for the list to become stable as to not instigate an edit war and also so I can gather the necessary information to completely report about the ceremony and the awards. I might consider also submitting accolades lists for the following:
| List | Target date for FLC submission |
|---|---|
| 2022 Winter Olympics medal table | March 27, 2023 |
| List of accolades received by Dune (2021 film) | May 4, 2023 |
| 95th Academy Awards | July 18, 2023 |
| List of accolades received by Everything Everywhere All at Once | September 18, 2023 |
| List of accolades received by Parasite | October 13, 2023 |
| List of accolades received by The Revenant | November 27, 2023 |
| 54th Academy Awards | February 3, 2024 |
| 50th Academy Awards | February 24, 2024 |
| 1996 Summer Olympics medal table | March 25, 2024 |
| 55th Academy Awards | May 21, 2024 |
| 96th Academy Awards | July 29, 2024 |
| 57th Academy Awards | February 6, 2025 |
Of course everything is subject to change. So that's what I have been planning so far.
- --Birdienest81talk 05:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi there again,
I forgot. Somebody has started the article for 96th Academy Awards, but the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has not yet announced the date yet for those awards even though they had already announced some rule changes regarding nominees and diversity/inclusion standards since June 2020. Should that article be deleted until the Academy has officially announced a date for the ceremony?
- --Birdienest81talk 06:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: The current article is weak since the information is already covered at Academy Award for Best Picture, but deletion is probably a bit extreme; a redirect is preferable, so the current content can easily be restored later. I'll adjust the page shortly. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:25, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Promotion of 74th Primetime Emmy Awards
2022 Winter Olympics medal table FLC
Hi there,
I was wondering if you could proofread 2022 Winter Olympics medal table for its impending featured list promotion? I would appreciate the feedback. --Birdienest81talk 18:31, 12 April 2023 (UTC)