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Czechoslovakia's non-violent defense against the Soviet occupation


As you suggested to me, I wrote an article on Czechoslovak nonviolent defense.

Would you like to read it and suggest possible corrections to me before it is published?

Thank you in advance.

Cordially --Ktokolvek5 (talk) 13:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for your reply. You are right that the article is a little too long. But, if I am not mistaken, the example of Czechoslovakia against the Soviet Union is the first, and so far only one, in history.

In general, it is believed that the Soviet Union won this war although many sources prove the contrary. Putting them together requires a little space ...

It seems useful to me to spread the idea that one state can defend itself against invasion by another, much more powerful, by non-violent means.

It cannot always work and certainly not the same way in Czechoslovakia in 1968, but it can make people think and seek other solutions.

Cordially --Ktokolvek5 (talk) 14:24, 12 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ktokolvek5 Thanks for the post but you should have posted on the article talk page not here. It may be the case that an article on non-violent resistance in Czechoslovakia should be written but there is already an article on the Prague Spring and a more general one on Nonviolent resistance. You will need to create the article but before doing that you should read the relevant help article on creating articles WP:AFC. You will also need to read about reliable sources WP:RS and get advice about the encyclopaedic style that is required as well as appropriate content. Some links are WP:5P, WP:V. You will need to be careful about WP:ADVOCACY. Your reverted text does not achieve the necessary standards for Wikipedia I believe. If you want help with aspects of Wikipedia you don't understand you can use the 'Help' link on the left menu or ask any editor. Robynthehode (talk) 17:41, 12 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. I read the articles you mention. Indeed, the Czechoslovak nonviolent defense against the Soviet army should be mentioned there. Strange that this is not the case. In general, the Russo-Czechoslovak War of 1968 is treated as a classical war not very important, in fact. It is believed that the 600,000 soldiers of the Soviet bloc crushed any resistance from the Czechs and Slovaks. However, the article that I am proposing for publication is a kaleidoscope of testimonies on these events, testimonies considered as reliable “secondary sources” (history books, important newspaper articles), but this kaleidoscope is reorganized differently. It offers a non-traditional look at this unique historical reality. On August 22, 1968, the state government invited its entire population to respond to the foreign invasion by non-violent means! It is unique. And he asked the army to stay in the barracks as the Czechoslovak army was considered the best in the Soviet bloc and the soldiers wanted to fight. This seems to me to largely justify the recounting of this story in an article on nonviolence. This article is published in French Wikipedia, article on nonviolence. It has been widely discussed by administrators. I added a personal opinion at the start which I can take away. In my opinion, the rest should be acceptable and be submitted to the readers. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, its users can enrich the articles. Censorship contradicts this fundamental principle. I intend to publish a reduced version of this text to about half. Cordially Ktokolvek5 (talk) 06:43, 14 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ktokolvek5 Again any post related to an article's content should be posted on the article's talk page rather than an editor's talk page such as mine here. This allows other editors to comment. Whether something is published on another Wikipedia site (French in this case) does not justify it being published on English Wikipedia. You can, of course, publish a changed version of your text but please note anything other than a very short mention may be seen as WP:UNDUE for a general article about nonviolence. This is why I suggested creating your own article or you can add to Prague Spring or another article. All additions must be encyclopaedic in content and style and include reliable sources WP:RS. I would suggest you post your re-worked text on the article talk page and ask for comments from other editors. Thanks. Robynthehode (talk) 07:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Robynthehode « Again any post related to an article's content should be posted on the article's talk page rather than an editor's talk page such as mine here. » OK. I copy it there.

--Ktokolvek5 (talk) 14:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]