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Keeping an eye on stuff. Meanwhile, here is some music.[1]

"I'm not a cat. I'm a Texas lawyer!"

Recreating a previously deleted article - Diamonds (Lil Peep and iLoveMakonnen album)[edit]

Hi, since the article's subject has now released and the article editor UI informed to first contact you, I would like to ask if I should recreate the page? I already have a draft ready in my sandbox that is ready to be improved upon in terms of citations by others and myself. OfficialNikkiMusic (talk) 18:51, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The article was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diamonds (Lil Peep and iLoveMakonnen album), but very few people took part in that debate.
The easiest thing to do is to put the draft into review; if an independent reviewer accepts it, this will override the previous deletion debate. I have moved the draft to Draft:Diamonds (Lil Peep and iLoveMakonnen album) and submitted it for review to move this along. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive[edit]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I went to see the Wise Woman and she said "speedy delete everything in the whole world!" at which point I left. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Diamonds (Lil Peep and iLoveMakonnen album). Thanks! Dan arndt (talk) 03:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I just did this draft as a courtesy for another user after deleting an earlier revision (see a few threads up). However one small comment, a limited number of citations to things like Twitter can be acceptable for basic facts per WP:BLPPRIMARY, although they can't be used to demonstrate notability. So while it would be nice to replace them with third-party cites, it's not an absolute deal-breaker in my opinion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:01, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Pont Abraham Services[edit]

On 14 September 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pont Abraham Services, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Pont Abraham Services, at the end of the M4, were one of the first in the UK to sell fuel for over £2 per litre? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pont Abraham Services. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pont Abraham Services), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Kusma (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cue witty remark about petrol prices or similar, or something Welsh from Martinevans123 in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:06, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
0.5, 0.25, 0.125.... Yes, that's right "I'm still fuming because it was only £1.98 at Swansea West." (chortle, chortle). And sorry I'm late, I've been somewhat detained. --Next slide please (talk) 19:29, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jennifer Cassidy deleted article[edit]

Hi there, re:

How can I userify this? GeneralBelly (talk) 00:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've put it in User:GeneralBelly/Jennifer Cassidy for you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Women in Green GA Editathon October 2023 - Around the World in 31 Days[edit]

Hello Ritchie333:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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New pages patrol newsletter[edit]

Hello Ritchie333,

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I fired up this new NPP script. First article I came across was Brimley, Michigan, created as a redirect in 2004 and expanded out to a full article today. Not amazing sourcing, but not obviously problematic enough and at the worst could be reverted back to the redirect, so no maintenance tags required. However, it's already been marked as patrolled, presumably years ago, so it won't fall off the queue. What have I missed here? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:51, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Currently it's not marked as patrolled.[2] If you can see the grey page curation toolbox at the right hand side of the page, you should see that the tick icon is still grey (not green or purple, which indicate reviewed pages). – Joe (talk) 15:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Got it - cheers! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:47, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit summary[edit]

[3]. Being a "convenience link" doesn't negate the fact that it is an unreliable source. We should never trust some random website which has (incorrectly) copied over the text of a newspaper. Fram (talk) 10:38, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You've got mail[edit]

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Ah. Just saw the banner on the top of this page. Feel free to respond when you actually have time. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 08:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will have a thorough look when I've got a spare evening, although it might not be for a week or so. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By the way, I have replied to your reply, in case it didn't land in your inbox. (since you didn't reply to my replies earlier, I'm worried that you didn't get those) 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 17:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hafiz Hamid Raza[edit]

Hello. It's true that this was moved to main space in good faith, by an editor in good standing. But the copyedits made to the article were quite minimal. Wikishovel (talk) 10:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WP:G5 has been controversial for 20 years. The best reading I can find is User talk:Iridescent/Archive 28#Origins of CSD G5 and User talk:Newyorkbrad/Archive/2012/Feb#About banned users and the banning policy. In the specific example of Hafiz Hamid Raza, it was accepted at AfC by DreamRimmer, an editor in good standing. That means you can't in good conscience use G5 to override the opinion of a qualified AfC reviewer. More to the point, there is a alternative to deletion as in the worst instance we could redirect to Azad Kashmir Legislative Assembly.
A question that Newyorkbrad touches on in his essay, but doesn't get answered as often as I'd like, is "What was the editor banned for in the first place?" If the ban was due to civility and not playing well with others, deleting a sock puppet's contributions per G5 seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater to me. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:27, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I certainly don't question DreamRimmer's good faith in the least. It's a short stub about an elected official with adequate referencing. Perhaps they will weigh in on this, to address the question of their opinion being overridden.
That essay by Newyorkbrad is thoughtful and useful, and I'm all for second and third chances myself. But this isn't a case of an editor coming back from a block and making good contributions. WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Sazmancrpo is a serial hoaxer, repeatedly writing about a non-notable businessman using deliberately faked references, and using uncontroversial edits and politician stubs to disguise this. WP:BMB seems written for exactly this sort of case. Wikishovel (talk) 10:38, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks to Ritchie for pinging me. I have no objection to deleting this article under G5. I believe that articles created by socks should be deleted if they align with the guidelines outlined in WP:G5 to prevent these LTAs from wasting other users' precious time once again. As an admin, you are the best person to make this decision. Thanks! 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 11:07, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've gone for my suggestion above and redirected to Azad Kashmir Legislative Assembly as an alternative for deletion. DreamRimmer, don't believe any of your time was wasted, you evaluated an article based on its merits in an encyclopedia, and that's what's important. Personally, I think as Wikipedia is a completely voluntary project, you are free to do as much or as little work as you like, and in this case I'm not worried about the five minutes or so I've spent on this. Indeed, I would argue that more time is spent / wasted at NPP looking at good-faith contributions on obscure subjects that cite sources that are not in English or are hard to access, and those are a complete ball-ache. I just can't get excited about sock puppetry investigations and avoid taking part in them. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:13, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You're absolutely right, but everyone may have a different perspective on these types of issues. Just to clarify, I didn't mean to refer to the last five minutes spent replying here. What I meant is that when articles created by socks are easily kept in the mainspace, it encourages them to create more accounts and write new articles again. This, in turn, leads to various unnecessary discussions, whether in AfD or elsewhere. Therefore, such actions should not be accepted readily, and they should not be allowed to waste the community's time in the future. In short, permitting these LTAs' articles to remain published is like inviting them back into sockpuppetry.
By the way, redirecting this article as ATD is a commendable decision. I hope this explanation makes sense, even though your views may differ on this. Have a great day! 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜 12:01, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]