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Precious anniversary[edit]

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo, rather odd question[edit]

Out of curiosity, is it worth RevDel'ing this edit from almost 20 years ago? I feel it is libelous but I dunno. Cheers! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 00:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I conferred with a member of the oversight team and we've decided not to apply revision deletion to the edit. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for doing that! Out of curiosity, where does one draw the line with this sort of thing? 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 02:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually upon looking again I had missed the allegation of criminal conduct at the very bottom of the page. I'm going to revdel that now. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah thanks! 🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 02:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your message on my talk page[edit]

I'm wondering what I've done to provoke the warnings on my talk page? Please note, I am trying to take a wikibreak so you may wish to drop me an email if an urgent reply is required. WCMemail 10:47, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Red-tailed hawk,

I thought you were very fair and even-handed in the way you handled this editwarring dispute yesterday I was involved in.

I just wanted to bring it to your attention that Beccanyr appears unsatisfied with this result and is engaging in admin-shopping by reaching out to another admin they seem friendly with here.

Thanks, Peter L Griffin (talk) 02:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message. I don't find that to be admin shopping; the user made a post on a noticeboard, and then reached out to an uninvolved administrator to ask the admin to take a look. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Red-tailed hawk, I am concerned that Peter L Griffin appears to be continuing to war toward their preferred version of their page. [1] and [2] are separate reverts within 24 hours of one another, at least. I stopped looking after I found two. (Tried to report on 3RRN; Twinkle failed me.) I am moreover concerned about the general pattern that I see as a minimally involved editor: the editing pattern looks like WP:STONEWALLing and WP:Civil POV pushing to me. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there Russ,
I am aware that Death of Nex Benedict is contentious and that 1RR is in effect, and I have been very carful to not violate that.
The first link you share is not a revert, but a normal edit adding contextual information -- "To revert is to undo the action of another editor." Only the second edit is a revert, and one revert is not in violation of 1RR. Peter L Griffin (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention, there is also an exemption for removing unsourced information, and my edit was exactly that -- so it could even be argued that there were zero reverts for 1RR purposes. Peter L Griffin (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do, however, want to bring notice to violations of 1RR by User:Sawerchessread, who appears to make POV edits by removing reference to water pouring from the lead:
[1], [2] Peter L Griffin (talk) 22:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The edit summary "removing this is highly contentious" makes it clear that Griffin knew that he was reverting an earlier edit in the 1st revert (precisely, [3]). Russ Woodroofe (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the first edit is a revert, who am I reverting? Peter L Griffin (talk) 22:40, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have gotten extremely busy in my personal life recently, so I write in haste. If an edit returns content to as it was in a previous revision in some non-trivial way (I.e. not fixing a clear typo) then it is a revert. If the meaning fundamentally changes because of an edit, then it is a revert. I don’t have the ability to dig through diffs and assess admin actions at the moment owing to my busy-ness, though any other admin is, and I trust that someone else will take a look at the present report on the AN3 board. — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 14:51, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Red-tailed hawk, sorry to be a bother yet again. I seem to have been reported for edit warring on Death of Nex Benedict again by a different user. I've been mindful since last time, thought, and I don't think you'll find that I have -- though the other user has edited in violation of 1RR. Since you handled this last time, I thought you might want to handle this again.
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Peter_L_Griffin_reported_by_User:Sawerchessread_(Result:_) Peter L Griffin (talk) 02:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 March 2024[edit]

The redirect Wikipedia:CLUSTERFUCK has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 30 § Wikipedia:CLUSTERFUCK until a consensus is reached. Paul_012 (talk) 10:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended Confirmed request and being civil[edit]

Thank you for the kind reply to Markus Prokott when he requested extended confirmation. Sometimes it feels that some experienced users are a bit blunt towards less experienced users requesting or doing something not perfectly according to guideline. I know the guidelines are all there, but the volume is overwhelming and some of us have not read everything yet. Thank you again. Thermofan (talk) 08:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024[edit]

Hello Red-tailed hawk,

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Gladys (owl)[edit]

I would be interested in your thoughts and comments and page improvements on the Gladys (owl) | Talk:Gladys (owl) page which was proposed for deletion one day after it was created. It is about an escaped Eurasian eagle-owl that later was killed after getting hit by a vehicle. However, this occured in Minnesota, not New York City. Myotus (talk) 16:48, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I don't really have the time to go through the sourcing at the moment. My apologies. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10xTravel Draft Edit[edit]

Hi, you left a comment asking if I could explain the 3 sources I think fit the qualifications for the 10xTravel draft (found here: I think sources 3 and 4 (these are from the same ABC News story but with some different info), source 8, and source 10 are most fitting for those qualifications. However I also think the overall grouping of all the sources I've listed add up to a reputable amount/quality of sourcing. If you could re-review this, I would appreciate it. Thank you so much. Editor782 (talk) 17:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter[edit]

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Going about an amendment[edit]

My arbitration case felt very stacked against me at the end so I didn't bother with defending myself.

The flour massacre article has become unrecognizable compared to when I last edited it; that of course does not excuse my violation of 1RR. I am simply saying that the dust has settled and that my edit war with BilledMammal was a blip in retrospect. I will admit that I went overboard with reverting Alpoin117, but I still don't think a vandal who insulted me warranted a permanent ban.

All in all I would only like for my suspension to not be indefinite. Half a year would be good enough. I've grown to be less impulsive since this all started, especially for an environment as heated as ARBPIA. I enjoyed adding content on lesser-known events within the topic such as protests and I was even the first person to mention Aaron Bushnell's name on Wikipedia at the article for self-immolation. I'm sorry for this message if I'm not allowed to file for an amendment on people's talk pages. Feel free to suggest editing restrictions that I may undertake in exchange for being able to edit in ARBPIA again, when and if that moment arrives. Salmoonlight (talk) 21:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive[edit]

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