User talk:PresN

Welcome to the 2023 WikiCup![edit]

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2023 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year, PresN![edit]

Happy New Year!

PresN,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. See this for background context.
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).

Administrator changes

Stephen

Interface administrator changes

Nihiltres

CheckUser changes

Moneytrees

Oversighter changes

Guideline and policy news

Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.

Arbitration

Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.

Miscellaneous

Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
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Promotion of List of Volition games[edit]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of Volition games, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Elizabeth Haydon[edit]

Template:Elizabeth Haydon has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:16, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of Butterfly Soup[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Butterfly Soup you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of Butterfly Soup[edit]

The article Butterfly Soup you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Butterfly Soup for comments about the article, and Talk:Butterfly Soup/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Always precious[edit]

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).

Administrator changes

Gimmetrow

CheckUser changes

Oversighter changes

Guideline and policy news

Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.

Technical news

The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.

Arbitration

The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.

Miscellaneous

Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
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TFL notification for March 2023[edit]

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that Hugo Award for Best Professional Magazine – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 3. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Promotion of Lodestar Award for Best Young Adult Book[edit]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, Lodestar Award for Best Young Adult Book, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 6 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of cities founded by Alexander the Great[edit]

Something odd about this one, and I can't figure out what caused it. I normally get a message underneath the article title that says "Currently a featured list candidate"; I don't get that message with this one. But the article talk page says "featured list candidate", and I don't see anything wrong with the nomination page. - Dank (push to talk) 17:27, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dank: It also says it's a "set index article" instead of a list, which is what I think is the issue- I think maybe the {{SIA}} template at the bottom is causing the "type" to change, and it's not set up to link the FLC for set index articles? In any case, the talk page is fine, so the FLC bot will be okay. --Pres N 18:41, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yep, that was it, all good now. - Dank (push to talk) 18:44, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of Butterfly Soup 2[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Butterfly Soup 2 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of Butterfly Soup 2[edit]

The article Butterfly Soup 2 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Butterfly Soup 2 for comments about the article, and Talk:Butterfly Soup 2/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shooterwalker -- Shooterwalker (talk) 17:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk:WWE 2K23[edit]

Hey, I don't know why you changed the assessment grade of WWE 2K23 to a redirect class, but I reverted it. Would appreciate a reasoning 2603:6080:7C40:5E0:B808:ED1E:8B76:5913 (talk) 16:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry, moving too fast- was fixing all the redirects/drafts that never got their talk pages updated, and I guess I double updated Draft talk:WWE 2K23. --Pres N 18:36, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Dank/Temp[edit]

You were wondering (on my talk page) if we could have a navbox for my current list series ... if so, User:Dank/Temp is my suggestion. People don't like to see red links in these things, so I can't deploy it right away, but I can probably deploy it soon. - Dank (push to talk) 17:52, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dank: Looks good! --Pres N 21:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also: I had been putting the image review info on the nominations page ... I'm now doing it as the last note on the list's talk page (for instance, at Talk:List of basal eudicot families. - Dank (push to talk) 03:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).

Administrator changes

The Wordsmith

CheckUser changes

Callanecc

Oversighter changes

Callanecc

Guideline and policy news

Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.

Technical news

The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.

Arbitration

Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.

Miscellaneous

The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a [p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

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WikiCup 2023 March newsletter[edit]

So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
Epicgenius was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
FrB.TG was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
TheJoebro64, another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
Iazyges was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.

The top sixteen contestants at the end of Round 1 had all scored over 300 points; these included LunaEatsTuna, Thebiguglyalien, Sammi Brie, Trainsandotherthings, Lee Vilenski, Juxlos, Unexpectedlydian, SounderBruce, Kosack, BennyOnTheLoose and PCN02WPS. It was a high-scoring start to the competition.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. The first round finished on February 26. Remember that any content promoted after that date but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TFL notification for March 2023[edit]

Hi, PresN. I'm just posting to let you know that List of Civilization media – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 24. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 17:29, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Promotion of List of afrosoricids[edit]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of afrosoricids, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Latest (and most likely final) issue of the WP:VG newsletter[edit]

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Question about source used in Secret of Mana[edit]

Hi PresN, I was trying to confirm some information about the history of Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger, and in Secret of Mana you quote the source: "Schaulfelberger, Frederik (September 2006). "Sanningen om Mana" [The Truth about Mana]. Level (in Swedish). No. 6. IDG. pp. 114–121." for a number of sections of the article. Could possibly tell me more about this magazine? My deep dives on google, archive.org, and IDG/Foundry have been unable to find any examples or references to it. It's been rather frustrating. Mostly been coming up with a different Turkish magazine called Level instead. Thank you, Antipothis (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Antipothis: No idea where I found it back in 2014 when I added it (though not in a tiny section at the end of the article...), but looks like there's scans and an English translation at here. Found it by googling "Secret of mana level magazine", and one of the hits was this VG247 article that quotes something different than the wikipedia article does and says it's an interview with Ishii, so I googled "secret of mana ishii interview level magazine" and it was the second hit. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the magazine itself --Pres N 22:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks alot man. That's a huge help. --Antipothis (talk) 03:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of The Gardens Between[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Gardens Between you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vestigium Leonis -- Vestigium Leonis (talk) 22:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of The Gardens Between[edit]

The article The Gardens Between you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Gardens Between and Talk:The Gardens Between/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vestigium Leonis -- Vestigium Leonis (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your GA nomination of The Gardens Between[edit]

The article The Gardens Between you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Gardens Between for comments about the article, and Talk:The Gardens Between/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Vestigium Leonis -- Vestigium Leonis (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Promotion of List of dasyuromorphs[edit]

Congratulations, PresN! The list you nominated, List of dasyuromorphs, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured list. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Giants2008 (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Navbox or sidebar?[edit]

Do you have any preference whether the template at List of basal superasterid families#See also stays there or gets moved up to the upper right as a sidebar? My first thought was that that would never work since the table needs the whole page width and comes up so quickly, but now that I think of it, I could probably get away with it. I don't have a preference ... do you? If not, I'll ask the next batch of reviewers. - Dank (push to talk) 03:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dank: I'm not sure- I think that having a navbar in the see also instead of at the bottom feels odd, and that a sidebar might work better? But as it is it's too wide for that, even before sticking an image to the left of it. You could make it narrower and put the image above it, but there's not a lot of vertical space to work with before you hit the table and I'm not sure how you'd do that without losing the nested nature (e.g. Asterids are a subset of superasterids are a subset of eudicots). --Pres N 03:28, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay, I'm thinking the same, I'll see what I can do. - Dank (push to talk) 03:30, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've looked at all the lists, and it should be doable. The first thing I need to do is finish the other lists and move them into article-space. - Dank (push to talk) 14:02, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Dank/Sandbox/4? Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 00:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dank: I like it; I think it's a little odd having Eudicots get centered but monocots/early-diverging not, but that's okay. I usually see these templates using {{sidebar}}, not infobox, so I made one up at User:PresN/plantsidebar - it's narrower but much taller, so I don't know that it works. --Pres N 01:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I like the way it looks, but I don't think I can make it work? If I try to put an image to the left of it, someone will throw me in a dungeon for violating some layout rule; if I put the image above it, it will push the table down too far in pretty much all of the lists. I'll see if I can make it fatter but shorter, if that works for you. - Dank (push to talk) 02:17, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 02:31, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Dank: I like it! --Pres N 02:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Though as a note, "Lists of flowering plant families" gets the title onto one line. --Pres N 02:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That helps, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 02:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]