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Happy New Year, Nick-D![edit]
Nick-D,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Thank you today for Project Waler, inrtroduced: "Project Waler was a failed attempt by the Australian Army to replace its ageing M113 armoured personnel carriers with more capable types. The project began in 1980 and never had clear goals. The Army favoured the largest and most expensive designs that were submitted as part of its focus on conventional warfare while the government preferred smaller and more mobile types suited to stopping raids on northern Australia. This led to cost blow outs and the cancellation of the project in 1985. The M113s were eventually upgraded instead, and continue to soldier on despite being obsolete. A new project to replace them is currently underway, but is also proving highly expensive and at risk of cancellation as a result."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023[edit]
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The Bugle Review Essay[edit]
Hi. I decided to write up a review essay for The Bulge along the lines of the one you made for the last issue. You can find mine here. Catlemur (talk) 10:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! That looks great. Do you know if they've revamped the Athens War Museum? When I visited in 2013 it was looking pretty tired and run down, which was a shame as it had a great collection. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:08, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- I couldn't find any information about revamps between 2013 and now, but last year 5.5 million euros were allocated for a renovation which will include a partial digitization of the collection. Unfortunately Greek military museums are not up to par with Les Invalides or the Imperial War Museum. While looking for information on the renovation I found that they opened a new museum dedicated to Napoleon Zervas in November 2022 so I will try to visit it by the end of the month and update the review essay accordingly.--Catlemur (talk) 23:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- My schedule is pretty tight this month and you need to book an appointment to visit Zervas' house, so I wrote up a description from info I found online. So the review essay is finished.--Catlemur (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- No worries - I'll post it over the weekend. Thank you again for this. Nick-D (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Catlemur: this is now posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/February 2023/Review essay. Please feel free to make any further edits. Nick-D (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- No worries - I'll post it over the weekend. Thank you again for this. Nick-D (talk) 23:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Hello-one suspected sock[edit]
Hello. Article Military, talk page of that article,
Both users the same content, the same objections on that page, so I suspect that is the same person with a sock account. Also, the same message as this I sent to the NinjaRobotPirate (talk · contribs) as soon as I noticed Nubia86 (talk) 05:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'd suggest reporting this at WP:SPI as it's something a Checkuser could easily handle. Nick-D (talk) 00:54, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 54[edit]
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 54, November – December 2022
- New collections:
- British Newspaper Archive
- Findmypast
- University of Michigan Press
- ACLS
- Duke University Press
- 1Lib1Ref 2023
- Spotlight: EDS Refine Results
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --14:14, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Mentoring for FAC[edit]
Hey Nick-D, I noticed you're listed as a mentor for featured article candidates and displayed a specific interest in military history. Last year I spent a good deal of time improving the article about Nestor Makhno, taking it through peer review and then a good article review. It's been stable for the few months since the last review so I'm wondering about submitting it for FAC. As it's my first time, I wanted to check in with you to see if you could give it a look over. -- Grnrchst (talk) 12:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll try to look over it this weekend, but I'm preparing for an overseas trip so I might not get up to it for a couple of weeks I'm afraid. Nick-D (talk) 09:54, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- No bother! Feel free to take as much time as you need, the article isn't going anywhere. I hope you have a good trip! -- Grnrchst (talk) 13:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Nick-D: Hey, I noticed you're back and was wondering if you could take a look? No worries if not, I can go to a different person on the mentor list. -- Grnrchst (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: apologies for my slow reply here. Due to other commitments, I don't think that I'll have time to review this article. I was hoping to do so this weekend, but it didn't happen and I don't think that I can propose to be able to do so in the future. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 07:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Resignation of Jacinda Ardern[edit]
Hi there, thank you for helping this article not be deleted. I wrote the bulk of it myself and I included an argument for its existence on the talk page. Her resignation was an important event that was deserving of a concise article, consistent with those for the ending of other premierships recently (i.e July 2022 United Kingdom government crisis for Boris Johnson. So thanks, I really appreciate it Aubernas (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- No worries. If it's renominated for deletion after being de-linked from the main page, please ping me. It's definitely a viable article. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 05:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023[edit]
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Battle of Saint-Malo[edit]
Hello,
First, excuse me if my sentences are not well written, I hope you will excuse the fact that I'm french.
I saw that you reverted my modification in the article Battle of Saint-Malo about the battalion who crossed the Rance River, the August 5th, 1944. You tell me that it was written that was the 329th Infantry Regiment as it's written in the US Army official history. Martin Blumenson did an error and you can see here in the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment history at the page 9 the brief describing of the events. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/various/330th_3rdBn_Our_part_in_the_war.pdf
You can read there the Afer Action Report of the 330th Infantry Regiment for August 1944 with the describing of the events of the August 5th, 1944. https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/330th/AAR/AAR_330_AUG1944.pdf
Here the mention of the crossing of Rance River by members of the 3rd Battalion, 330th Infantry Regiment in the record of the 83rd Reconnaissance Troop (page 1 at the paragraph 10) https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/83rdRCNTrp/AAR/AAR_83rd_Rcn_Trp_AUG1944.pdf
If you read the records of the 329th Infantry Regiment you will never see any mention of this event because they were involved in the fight at Chateauneuf d'Ille-et-Vilaine that day (https://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/329th/AAR/AAR_329_AUG1944.pdf)
Hoping it give you a new point of view. I saw often the error in several books because they were based on the Martin Blumenson book but the original sources from the 83rd Infantry Division records are very sure about this small event of the war. HistoAmateur35 (talk) 14:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Wikipedia operates off secondary not primary sources so I won't be making that change. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Book review[edit]
Just wanted to let you know I've tweaked some things, after having a short emailed correspondence with the author, who passed the factual items on to his editor to hopefully get fixed in the paperback edition. Hog Farm Talk 14:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for letting me know Nick-D (talk) 00:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Hog Farm and Ian Rose: I dumbly added this to the February edition after it was sent out! In my defence, I was still suffering from jet lag, fatigue and culture shock after a quick trip to India for work. I've removed it, and posted in in the March edition. Sorry for any and all confusion caused! Nick-D (talk) 10:16, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Lead to WWII Article[edit]
Hello Nick-D
I admire your work on military and other articles and don't want to get off on the wrong foot with you. However, I think the word "led" is way out of place in the description of principal Allies in WWII. It imports a notion of leadership or precedence. Taking the war as a whole from Sep 1939 to August 1945 I would argue that the principal allies were UK, France, US, Soviets, China. You can order them alphabetically or in the order in which they took up arms against the Axis powers. What is the basis for the wording which currently exists?
Also, the article states, "It is generally considered that in Europe World War II started on 1 September 1939." Only two sources are given for this and they are woefully inadequate. I have at least a dozen books on my shelf which date the outbreak to 3 September when France and the UK declared war on Germany. Without these declarations there would have been no general European war in 1939. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 02:35, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, Let's limit this conversation to the article's talk page to prevent fragmentation and confusion. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023[edit]
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Congratulations from the Military History Project[edit]
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A barnstar for you![edit]
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Let your opinion be stated on the Rhodesia vectors deletion request[edit]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Rhodesia_vectors_after_1973 I linked to it here so that you can easily find it and state your opinion. I will link to our discussion we had about three months ago. Thank you. Sprucecopse (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
TFA[edit]
Thank you today for Bougainville counterattack, introduced (in 2018): "This article covers what must be one of the worst military blunders of World War II. In March 1944 around 15,000 Japanese troops attempted to attack fortified positions on the island of Bougainville which were held by 62,000 Americans who knew that they were coming. While the Japanese fought bravely, the offensive ended in total failure, with the veteran US Army units stopping the attack in a matter of days."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Operation Title[edit]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Operation Title you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. 
This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Zawed -- Zawed (talk) 02:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Rhodesian/Zimbabwean copyright[edit]
Hello, just wanted to let you know that I have re-uploaded the files as non-free files to Wikipedia with a smaller resolution. Sprucecopse (talk) 16:53, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations from the Military History Project[edit]
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Your GA nomination of Operation Title[edit]
The article Operation Title you nominated as a good article has passed 
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023[edit]
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Nomination of Capital Express Route for deletion[edit]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Capital Express Route until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.
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Steyr AUG article[edit]
G'day Nick-D, I would appreciate your comments in regards to verifiability in a discussion on Talk:Steyr AUG. There is a related discussion at WP:ANI Disruptive editing by Guns & Glory. Regards, Melbguy05 (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023[edit]
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DYK for Operation Title[edit]
On 8 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Operation Title, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an attempted British-Norwegian attack on the German battleship Tirpitz was abandoned after two Chariot manned torpedoes were lost due to bad weather? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Title. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Operation Title), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023[edit]
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023[edit]
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Air Board PR[edit]
Hi Nick, did you want to check my last replies at the PR? Happy to look at tweaking text further but just let me know your thoughts on the latest if you have time... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Ian Rose: Sorry for the slow reply here. Those changes look good to me. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Harassment[edit]
hi, I apologize if you saw any harassment towards that editor. My intention was simply to leave my message in an ongoing discussion about my edits. The reasoning I was "reinstating these messages" is because they are removed with the excuse of me being a sockpuppet, which I'm not. By the way I won't put them back if it's not allowed. Have a nice day--All weekend on the weeknd (talk) All weekend on the weeknd (talk) 09:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023[edit]
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I have sent you a note about a page you started[edit]
Hello, Nick-D. Thank you for your work on Estonian Division. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, I had the following comments:
Hey there! Hope you're having a great day. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia with your article. I'm happy to inform you that your article has adhered to Wikipedia's policies, so I've marked it as reviewed. Have a fantastic day for you and your family!
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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 09:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Little thing I wrote up; hope you like it. Might throw it into the Signpost proper if they want it. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 17:38, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
- Many thanks Adam, that looks excellent Nick-D (talk) 10:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- Punched it up a mite. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 00:19, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. I've roughed in all the articles that need covered in the featured content section, I don't think I'm up to writing summaries, though, not with all the things I'm going to need to do regarding my dad's death this week. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 19:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- How did the Op-ed just gain three additional sections? I need to stop. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 03:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Okay. I've roughed in all the articles that need covered in the featured content section, I don't think I'm up to writing summaries, though, not with all the things I'm going to need to do regarding my dad's death this week. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 19:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Punched it up a mite. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 00:19, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Hey, just noting a little clarification as to which version(s) you support is needed here. Sorry, it's mostly my fault. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 02:06, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Would you like to be my FAC mentor?[edit]
Hello Nick-D,
Hoe all is well. I am thinking about promoting Luo Wenzao (currently GA) to FA status. Luo is the first Chinese Catholic bishop. As this would be my very first FAC, I am looking for an FAC mentor, especially someone who I have never interacted with on Wikipedia. Would you like to be my FAC mentor?
Cheers, --TheLonelyPather (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I'd be very happy to look over this article over the coming weekend, though with the proviso that it's a topic I know nothing about! It looks interesting and already developed to a high standard though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! No worries, "no deadline", as they say. --TheLonelyPather (talk) 11:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- :(( TheLonelyPather (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I've been busy (and exhausted) from my work and some travel. I'd suggest looking for a mentor with better knowledge of this topic. Nick-D (talk) 03:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know and no problem with that. Many thanks for your attention to this as well!!! TheLonelyPather (talk) 13:31, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I've been busy (and exhausted) from my work and some travel. I'd suggest looking for a mentor with better knowledge of this topic. Nick-D (talk) 03:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 4 September 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/September 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 17:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023[edit]
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History of the Royal Australian Navy has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
You sure about this one? Their contributions seem sometimes clumsy but other than this one, they seem at worst poorly sourced or jejune sometimes. For example, their two edits prior to that WWII one consisted of adding a name to a list, then realizing it was already on the list and removing it. I don't see any bad faith edits. Perhaps I am missing something? I didn't look very far back. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 18:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I am. They are stating on their talk page now that their account may have been compromised, so I'm extending the block to indefinite. Nick-D (talk) 22:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- OK, but I'd still like to know where the vandalism and bad faith edits are. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 04:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
rhodesia information centre[edit]
hello, Nick-D! i had a question regarding this article and the associated blurb. is this article specifically about the office in sydney, or more generally about the rhodesian de facto diplomatic mission in australia? the article body seems to suggest that the rhodesian information centre in sydney replaced the rhodesian information service in melbourne in 1967, so if the article is specifically about the office in sydney, i am wondering if it would be more accurate for the blurb and article lead to both state that the office began representing rhodesia in 1967 rather than 1966. (however, i admittedly cannot tell from the article whether the sydney office actually began operating earlier, or if it was actually originally the rhodesian information service's sydney branch, so it seems possible that the office in sydney actually did begin representing rhodesia in 1966.)
considering the various names for the centre listed in the article lead, i had initially thought that maybe the name of the rhodesian information service in melbourne was simply considered an alternative name for the subject of the article. however, i eventually noticed that "Rhodesian Information Service" (as used in melbourne, with an 'n' in "Rhodesian") was different from "Rhodesia Information Service" [bold removed] (as used in the article lead, without an 'n' in "Rhodesia"), so i admittedly am uncertain about whether the article intended to consider the centre in melbourne part of the featured subject. dying (talk) 02:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, it was essentially the same thing, so 1966 is the best start date. As Jordan notes, the Rhodesian Information Service in Melbourne was replaced by the Rhodesia Information Centre; there does not appear to have been any break between the RIS closing and the RIC starting. The RIC has slightly different names in different sources, which causes further confusion! I've tweaked the lead of the article to help clarify this for readers, but I'd suggest that it's not needed for the TFA blurb. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 03:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Thank you today for the article, introduced: "The Rhodesia Information Centre was the unofficial, and illegal, embassy the Rhodesian government maintained in Australia from 1966 to 1980. As the Australian government did not recognise Rhodesia's independence it had almost no contact with Australian officials. Instead, it spread propaganda trying to win Australians over to the white minority regime in Rhodesia and helped businesses evade the trade sanctions against the country. The Rhodesian Information Centre survived multiple attempts by the Australian government to close it, including one which led to a High Court case in 1973 and another which caused a backbench revolt in 1977, and was finally shut down by the Zimbabwean government in 1980. As a result, while this is a slightly obscure topic, the article covers a lively period in Australian foreign relations and provides insights into Australian attitudes towards white minority rule in Africa during this period."! --
The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023[edit]
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POV/disinformation on Russian invasion of Ukraine articles[edit]
I have received a request for assistance regarding closer watching of some articles where POV editing may be an issue. Who are the Australian military editors in good standing right now who might be interested in adding a few more things to their watchlists, and getting involved? Buckshot06 (talk) 00:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Buckshot06: apologies, I seem to have missed this. I'd suggest posting at WT:MILHIST and/or other relevant noticeboards to ask that other editors keep an eye on those articles. Nick-D (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)