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Full clerk[edit]

Heya, I thought a bot would have notified you, but I wanted to let you know that clerks and ArbCom have promoted you to full clerk. Thanks for your hard work in the past and in the future. Primefac (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back![edit]

Hope you had a nice vacation from Wikipedia. NOW GET BACK TO WORK. QRep2020 (talk) 12:22, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@QRep2020: lol love the reference. –MJLTalk 13:53, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ARCA insta-archiving[edit]

I got a ping to that ARCA today by an arb; I sent a couple in response. Kinda feels like you shut that discussion down too soon (for no apparent reason). It's only been up for a week, so... why? El_C 21:54, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@El_C: Arbitrators requested the discussion be closed via the clerks-l list. –MJLTalk 22:00, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, thanks for letting me know. I guess they heard enough from me, then, which is fair. Take it easy. El_C 22:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
lol just poor timing, I guess –MJLTalk 01:34, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sure... "timing." ;) It's okay, I can annoy ArbCom elsewhere, and I do (do). El_C 06:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discretionary sanctions review: proposed decision and community review[edit]

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2020 Santa Cruz graduate students' strike[edit]

Is the 2020 Santa Cruz graduate students' strike still going on? (There's a new strike now.) I assume not but I was surprised it wasn't updated. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 02:50, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Lights and freedom: Updated now. Thank you! –MJLTalk 03:34, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi MJL. I noticed that you recently reverted my edit to CENT by claiming that the RFC is almost over. Typically, RfCs last for a bit longer than two weeks, and I'm wondering if you'd be willing to self-revert to ensure that the discussion is well-advertised. Given that it affects the main page of Wikipedia, I think that this is relevant enough to include in CENT. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:08, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Red-tailed hawk: Sorry Red-tailed hawk, but the RFC started 2 weeks ago. We're well past the point that it would be useful to get wider input. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯MJLTalk 05:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Message moved from VPM[edit]

Hello. I'd like to ask you to move Maryana's message back to its original location on VP/M. The location was chosen on purpose and VPWMF does say that "Wikimedia Foundation currently does not consider this page to be a communication venue." I'm not going to revert your change but I hope you can see the reasoning for asking you to do so. Guillaume (WMF) (talk) 23:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Guillaume (WMF):  Done I don't agree with the Foundation not just using the forum we set up for them, but that's not in my power to change I guess.
Apologies, BilledMammal. I believe I moved your comment, but the ping is gonna be messed up.MJLTalk 00:14, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Guillaume (WMF): Can you explain why the Wikimedia Foundation does not consider VPW to be a communications venue? And if it is not, what is the enwiki-WMF communications venue?
I agree with MJL that communication between the WMF and enwiki should be done on the relevant noticeboard. BilledMammal (talk) 00:18, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was curious about that and it seems the relevant edits are special:Diff/961933024 following special:Diff/961870116, which maybe should be revisited. Levivich (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know that barkeep49 posted a status check on the VP's talk page which had most people in agreement that the board isn't working. Despite having a bit of a rocky history, I do think the board would work a lot better if there was a concerted effort by folks on the WMF-side of things to use it for announcements (even if they don't use it for feedback). To me, it just doesn't logically make sense that the CEO's very important announcement about the WMF itself is located on the Misc. Village Pump (where this was the preceding post) rather than the Village Pump exclusively dedicated to WMF affairs as they concern English Wikipedia. Face-troubled.svgMJLTalk 06:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For the record, I'm not mad at anyone specifically for not using WP:VP (WMF). I just see this as an accessibility issue for new users (who won't know they'll need to check every Village Pump for important updates). The board was also supposed to make life easier for WMF staff trying to contact the English Wikipedia community, but it obviously isn't doing that very well. It's a sad affair... –MJLTalk 07:08, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In my view we should nominate the WMF Village Pump for deletion if the WMF isn't using it. As it is, it just leads to people being lured into a venue where they will fail to get the response they're hoping for. Andreas JN466 12:04, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I supported marking VPWMF as historical in April and still do now. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 2022[edit]

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Contentious topics procedure adopted[edit]

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The Arbitration Committee has concluded the 2021-22 review of the contentious topics system (formerly known as discretionary sanctions), and its final decision is viewable at the revision process page. As part of the review process, the Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

The above proposals that are supported by an absolute majority of unrecused active arbitrators are hereby enacted. The drafting arbitrators (CaptainEek, L235, and Wugapodes) are directed to take the actions necessary to bring the proposals enacted by this motion into effect, including by amending the procedures at WP:AC/P and WP:AC/DS. The authority granted to the drafting arbitrators by this motion expires one month after enactment.

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For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:47, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Contentious topics procedure adopted

Merry Christmas[edit]


Hello, and Thank you for reviewing Maui (Moana) and moving from Draft to Article form. In case you feel like it, Here's another draft to review: (talk) 11:16, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year, MJL![edit]

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Abishe (talk) 21:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hope you’re doing well MJL! Best wishes, The Night Watch (talk) 20:41, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Contentious topics procedure now in effect[edit]

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In December, the Arbitration Committee adopted the contentious topics procedure, which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period.

The drafting arbitrators warmly thank all those who have worked to implement the new procedure during this implementation period and beyond. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Contentious topics procedure now in effect


Hello, MJL! You might be interested in endorsing an essay in which creation I participated – WP:NOCONFED. Of course, this is just a suggestion, nothing more. Cheers! — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 22:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you please start discussion for making this proposed essay into a notability guideline. ​​​​​​​𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙‍♂️Let's Talk ! 15:47, 9 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I had a weird impromtu wikibreak for various personal reasons, but I should slowly be coming back now. –MJLTalk 16:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Lok Sabha Constituency. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Prarambh20 (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for closing that RFC. Andre🚐 20:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Andrevan: Thank you! I'm always happy to help close those kinds of discussions. Face-smile.svgMJLTalk 16:05, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Information.svg The redirect Template:Not talk quote inline has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 23 § Template:Not talk quote inline until a consensus is reached.

Technically it's not a redirect you created, but it goes through {{!tq}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMDb (identifier)[edit]

Why the change to IMDb (identifier)? Gonnym (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Gonnym: Same reason for {{YouTube}}. It'll help de-clutter WhatLinksHere for that page. It's a WP:BOLD change, but I think it's worth doing. –MJLTalk 01:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Talk header templates[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:Talk header templates has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]