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Seminole Heights Page[edit]
Hello. My edits were completely constructive and factual. They provide a source that the "official seal" of Seminole Heights is a hoax. It also provides the original source the false seal claims to have come from—the 1912 Hillsborough High School Yearbook. I have access to the yearbook and this false seal does not appear anywhere in it's pages, and the faked seal doesn't even have the company name correct. Please cease reverting my changes as they are valid and sourced. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thgenTPA (talk • contribs)
Seminole Heights[edit]
When the source claims an image as proof that a seal existed in a year book, the only source that can refute that is an image of the original, unaltered source. What other source would you like me to provide? Certainly any other source would be second hand in this case. This isn't an image that disproves another image as factual, it's not being provided as a source to make a claim.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thgenTPA (talk • contribs)
New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022[edit]
Hello Loriendrew,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023[edit]
Hello Loriendrew,
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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]
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Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
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It appears that your reverted my edit to Pop-punk, in which, I added an image to the infobox describing how Green Day was the most successful of the genre. Your reasoning was that it was, "not appropriate for infobox". I disagree with this, as British Invasion, Smooth jazz, Rap rock, and especially Grunge have similar images and captions. In addition, I cited 2 sources and was stating a fact that they are the most successful of the genre. If you would like to open a discussion on the talk page or discuss it on here, that would be great. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 01:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Pop-punk is not Green Day's primary genre, so stating they are the best selling artist is the equivalent of creative accounting. MOS:CAPLENGTH for infoboxes should be short and succinct, in this situation if it were appropriate, something like "Green Day in 2010" would be appropriate; as such it would not offer any information to contribute to understanding the topic. If you wish to include the image, please gain consensus on the talk page of the article.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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An Overlong but Superbly Written Response to Your Accusation[edit]
Thank you for advising me about adding defamatory content to Wikipedia. I know I've been bad, and were I a child, I'd suggest you paddle my bare bottom. (Isn't the subjunctive lovely? Would that it not be moribund in English.) I wish you were with me tonight. You could bathe me (très excitant!) and wrap me in my jammies and kindly advise me about all sorts of things. For you, after all, are a master intellect. For you, after all, with your wise and prophetic musings, are a modern-day Pythia (which--truth be told--makes me cry).
Now, lest I tax your patience, I proceed to the business of the court: I don't know who Melissa Benoist is, and am therefore confused and troubled by your charges. I searched for her at once on Wikipedia, but my (admittedly cursory) glance at her (very tedious) page failed to assuage my anxious bewilderment. (Please don't think that I'm denying your accusation, Pythia: I simply don't remember thinking of the bitch, let alone defaming her.) (Oh, bother! I must be careful. Let me assure you that I do not mean "bitch" in any pejorative sense.) Since I don't doubt that I said something, I assume that you were justified in taking offense. And I'm certain that having your nose in the air is a good look for you.
Eventually, of course, I shall be blocked from editing. Of this I am sure. But I don't want you to feel ever sorrow in your heart. Merci de ne pas! For I shall reveal to you a secret: I am a phoenix of Wikipedia. Once I rise triumphantly from the flames of my expulsion, I shall once again make my presence known by means of gentle observations and fabulous bons mots. (Oh, how this thought sustains me! Much like the spinster who misplaced a bratwurst in her underwear, I find myself almost giddy with pleasure!) (Gracious, I do overuse parenthetical asides, don't I? Um, er... not so fast! This does not mean that I am Joyce Carol Oates!! I'M NOT, I SWEAR IT!!!)
Anyhoo, it is time I retire, with my book and my nasal spray. (I'm rereading Descartes, Les passions de l'âme, and loving it!) As I say goodnight, may I ask a favor? Décontracte! It is not a big favor. It is simply this: go at once to your kitchen and open a drawer. Find something very sharp. Take it in hand and shove it so far up your ass that you cut your fucking tongue off. Bon appétit! I love you. Untold Millions (talk) 19:07, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
class parameter[edit]
In regards to my edits of "class parameters" that you have reverted I bundled the duplicate class parameter under {{wikiproject banner shell}}, which to me makes the templates look cleaner (I think is a rather recent change that was made to how the banner shell system works). I didn't think anybody would find such a change controversial or needing explaining, seeing as the class ranking is still maintained under the wpbs (and it's not as if any of these rankings where uniquely given by wikiprojects). Do you have any particular reason for wanting to keep the duplicate rankings instead of bundling them? Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 22:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- The use of edit summaries, of which you applied to none of the talk page edits, would have been helpful.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 00:35, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Global quality assessments[edit]
I noticed your recent rollbacks regarding removal of class parameters. The edits were in good faith, and a result of the unanimously supported Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 198#Project-independent quality assessments. Due to this, articles which are rated a certain quality level by all the WikiProjects on its talk page should have their rating move to the banner shell. This will automatically populate all relevant WikiPRoject categories. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 22:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
- Something like this should be mentioned in an edit summary. None of the rollbacks mentioned any rationale for the changes.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 00:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm sure you're not at fault here because it is easy to miss out on developments like this, and without appropriate summaries, there's no way to know what's going on. I just wanted to inform you about the development. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 05:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
why revert[edit]
There is a mention of de Sade on Reve's wiki page, so why revert? Stop doing this. Thank you! Tjerkvermaning (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- You had just added an unsourced statement to Reve's article then added him as an influence to Sade. Please provide reliable sourcing.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 13:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Kate Todd[edit]
Explain to me why the IMDb, one of the most comprehensive documentation of entertainment details, is a poor source? Jaiquiero (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Please see WP:RS/IMDB.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 01:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive[edit]
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New pages patrol newsletter[edit]
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Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!
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