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Close to Home (Aitch album)

I am very confused by your revert of my edits to Close to Home (Aitch album) and the updates you made in their place. Using the track listing template when there are a variety of writers and producers seemed most appropriate, and you removed credited personnel for reasons I don't quite understand. The original version of the personnel section was/is incredibly cluttered largely due to the production credits, and the rewritten track list you provided is virtually unreadable to me.

Obviously I'm not the only person working on album articles and my opinion isn't the only one, but I've always understood your reverts/re-edits in the past and this one is confounding me. Can you help me understand what made you change the article in this way, as opposed to keeping the edit I made? Sock (tock talk) 11:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

The track listing template is ugly and I don't like it. This article already has an established style, and I didn't see a need to change it. Which credited personnel were removed? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

I'm only two and a half months late but I didn't get notified of this response for some reason, sorry about that! You're absolutely right about the established style and I've adjusted my editing habits in the time since to stop restructuring album articles in the way that I typically do them if I'm adding additional information, so that part I'm happy to drop out of my confusion. I also saw that you [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Close_to_Home_(Aitch_album)&oldid=1158710128restored the producers to the infobox], which was much obliged and one of the things I figured you agreed with from my initial edit.

In regards to the personnel that was removed or altered, this was my mistake. I found the CD liner notes and can see that the "bass guitar/drums/guitar/etc." credits are not on the actual record, so I totally get why you undid those. I also missed some of your follow-up edits where you restored the handful of people I saw that were initially missing. The only minor things I went back to correct is that Fred Again is just credited as FRED and that Aminé is credited for additional vocals, but overall I was off the mark here.

The only thing I'm still confused by is the removal of featured artists from the track listing, which is especially surprising since I don't think I've ever seen a track listing that doesn't include features in that section. The vocalists are still in the Personnel section, but that doesn't acknowledge that they're specifically credited as featured artists.

Sorry for the novel, conciseness evidently isn't one of my strong suits. Sock (tock talk) 16:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

No worries at all, friend. We aren't obliged to reproduce liner notes exactly as they are written, so I don't make it a point to force every bit of information that is used for marketing or inside jokes or extraneous thanks, etc. into the article. I think that "Song" (featuring [Person]) is just marketing that is not relevant to understanding a track listing, so I don't include it. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:03, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Oi! video albums

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Template:The Go! Team

Hello. Just curious how you came noticed my edit to Template:The Go! Team? It doesn't appear you've edited it before... Ss112 07:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

It's on my watchlist. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:The_Go!_Team&action=history ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:00, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for letting me know! Ss112 08:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for improving the article. Have a nice day. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

anonymous users

why don't you answer anonymous users when asking questions in chat massage?? Xhuuiya (talk) 12:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

What chat? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Mewgenics edit

Hey, Koavf. I hope you're doing well. I just wanted to bring up an edit you made to Mewgenics that may have included a typo, as it looks like you were going to insert a template, but it didn't come out right. Just wanted to see if you had thoughts on it. BOTTO _(T•C) 00:09, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

That it did, friend! Merci. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I appreciate you putting in work on an article for what will surely be another significant chapter in Edmund McMillen's career. :) BOTTO _(T•C) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Contemporary worship music compilation albums

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African Union

This is slightly disingenuous, especially since you have a long history with the article and were the only one fully supporting retention. I'm not going to contest it since in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but the consensus was to delete, not redirect. Star Mississippi 19:13, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

What is disingenuous? I didn't make a claim about the consensus, but what would have been most prudent or best practice. As I'm sure you know, sometimes during these discussions, someone will bring up an alternative that not everyone else has considered. Do you think that deletion is better than redirecting? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

this should have been redirected is making a claim about the consensus. In this case, deletion v. retention is moot, since the problematic content (from the POV of discussion participants) is no longer present with the redirect being created post deletion. That's what I meant by grand scheme of things. But yes, the call to redirect or not would have been better made by someone who wasn't the creator who also !voted keep. Like I said, not contesting it, but your statement is not a reflection of what "should" have happened as an outcome of that AfD. Star Mississippi 19:19, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I was not making a claim about the consensus and saying "You messed up by not reading the discussion correctly", I was making a claim about best practice and saying "This will result in the most useful approach for others". I don't think I understand your answer to my question: can you please reword it and just say yes or no? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:29, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I think I understand your decision a little more here (wrong conclusion v. most helpful). So all good with your decision/redirection. Have a good one. Star Mississippi 20:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Sure. Sorry for my ambiguity. "I don't think I understand your answer to my question: can you please reword it and just say yes or no? " ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Missed your last reply, apologies.

Yes, the redirect is helpful to the reader. Star Mississippi 12:29, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

No worries--thanks kindly for answering and being a helpful admin. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:40, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Always happy to help! Star Mississippi 00:38, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Mail

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Hi Koavf, I have received your replies and intend to answer. I am taking my time to write a through post though, so it may be a while. In the meantime, do you think you could comment on this thread? Thanks! --Bbb23exposed 185.199.231.45 (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Oh boy. This seems complex... ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Are you going to read all of it? Cheers, --Bbb23exposed 185.199.229.156 (talk) 15:21, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

I may. Seems like a lot to digest and it's about a topic that I don't particularly enjoy thinking about. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

If you do read the whole thing, will you leave a comment with your own thoughts/observations? --Bbb23exposed (talk) 15:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Sales charts/Sales certifications

Hi Koavf. I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to bring to your attention a minor concern regarding the headings "Sales certifications" and "Sales charts" that I noticed you are using. I believe there might be a slight inaccuracy in these terms. Firstly, when referring to certifications, it's worth noting that historically they were primarily based on shipments rather than actual sales. Nowadays, they are mostly determined by streams, which do not necessarily equate to sales figures. Therefore, it would be more accurate to use the term "Certifications" instead of "Sales certifications." Similarly, the term "Sales charts" might not accurately depict the content being referred to, as many, or even most, charts are based on airplay rather than sales. Furthermore, other charts utilize metrics such as streams or even impressions, which further deviate from direct sales figures. Have fun editing! --Muhandes (talk) 09:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Neat, thanks! I always appreciate someone making me less ignorant. Be well, friend. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Category:Bibliographies by writer nationality

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Rhythm and blues albums by Argentine artists

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Peacefully resolve edit war

Hello, I want to discuss the dispute of colors being added to page content. Adding colors to track listings, like you have done to Pigments (album), serves no purpose except to maybe look cooler. Colors (Ken Nordine album) as well, especially the "flesh" track which seems like just a gradient of skin colors?

You made what looks like a dispute compromise to Pigments by listing the colors in a line after the tracks?

One minute after reverting me you added {{inuse}} to Colors (Ken Nordine album) and went along your way (possibly to prevent me from removing those colored tracks as well?) Please let me know. Apmh 16:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I had already added the color samples to the article a day(s) prior and had been working on that album on and off for several hours: see the edit history. I'm not assuming that you're trying to start edit wars all about, just marking it as I probably should have prior to starting a spate of edits. If you want to remove the color bar, whatever. Don't add the track listing template and don't act like my edits are vandalism and need to be reverted with an anti-vandalism tool: that's poor form at best and poisons the well for discussion. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:56, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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Succession boxes

Hello, I hope you are well. I just noticed this edit of yours to Stevie Wonder's album [1] and wanted to let you know MOS:CHARTS tells editors not to include succession boxes for songs and albums. I remember them being deleted from most articles years ago. 120.17.217.85 (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. Not sure if you got my previous message but I have removed the succession boxes from the articles you added it to. Hope that's ok. There was an RFC in 2018 that led to it being added to the guideline. 120.17.217.85 (talk) 00:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Merci! I'll stop. Great looking out, friend. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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Why did you post this? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:18, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Kleuske: ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

The article wasn't ready for main article space (lacking sources and content). In draftspace you can work on it in peace. Kleuske (talk) 12:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

@Kleuske: did you see that it was tagged {{inuse}}? The only person who disturbed my peace about editing it was you by moving it. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 12:45, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

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You didn't find reviews in a search you did? Is that what you're saying? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22the+tuxedo+begins%22+review&ia=web ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:58, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi @Koavf. I significantly expanded Built to Spill Plays the Songs of Daniel Johnston and nominated it at GAC. Given your knowledge of indie rock, I was wondering if you would be interested in conducting the review. Thanks! voorts (talk/contributions) 02:47, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

It looks like someone else got to it. Good job. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

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Akane Yamaguchi

hello. Help improvements. Thanks. 27.65.26.100 (talk) 06:32, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Okay. How? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:32, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

The IP spammed this message to 30 or so user talk pages. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:25, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

• eye roll emoji. Thanks.

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Categorization project

Hello Koavf. I am categorizing Assassinated politicians by time, I don't know if the topic interests you. If it does and you have the desire, you are welcome to check Category:2000s assassinated politicians by continent. The red links emulate the links in Category:Assassinated politicians by continent. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 01:01, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm a little preoccupied at the moment, but this is generally the kind of thing that interests me. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Justin, I just wanted to make sure you saw this invitation! I know you were interested in the user group a while back. In this case, as I wrote on the event page, we've been gifted a bunch of free tickets by the State Fair to distribute to Wikipedians. Even if you can't make it at the time we scheduled the event, since you don't need the Wikipedia tutorial, let me know if you'd still like to use a free ticket any other time during fair season. You can just upload some photos or do other edits (or even a new article). I already have the tickets in my possession, so I'd be happy to find a way to get them to you! Dominic·t 02:59, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

How kind. I will not be in town until August 20, tho. :/ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:02, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Too bad! Let me know if plans change (Or you get back early enough to head over for the last day!). Dominic·t 13:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

You'll be the first to know. Have fun and be good. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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Man on the Moon

First of all, the Personnel section was added by whom I suspect to be a possible sock of User:Fileman67, so I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Secondly, it's quite bold of you to re-add this information without providing an actual citation, which makes me question your research methods as a longtime editor. That leads me to my next point: I cannot find any of the listed credits on the album's liner notes, so either people aren't uploading the proper images or you are too lazy/busy to look them up yourself. Instead of reverting my edits, I highly suggest you start a new Personnel section from scratch, using actual citations, instead of defending a possible block evader with no valid evidence to back them up. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 19:23, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Sure. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:08, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

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Perfect Union

Hi Koavf. Welcome back by the way. Just want to find out if it is your goal to change the format of the chart table that has been shown on MOS:CHARTS for years? You say there is nothing that says to not include a column for years, yet the page has plenty of visual representations of what it is supposed to look like. I do not believe it has to say the words explicitly. But it does say, a table "should" not "must" use wikitable sortable. There would never be a need for someone to sort a row of one, so that is why I removed it in this case. I feel if you want to change a long-established format, it should be discussed. Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 15:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Those are good points. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

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??? It's one of 100,000 digital album scans that we have here. What needs to be investigated? Is this serious? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Dave Holmes

I'm really embarrassed to have muffed that one. I looked at the dab page, and it didn't mention that the actor was also a writer (it does now), and I looked at the reference and the author bio, and it didn't mention that he was an actor/TV personality. I'm glad you knew more than I did and fixed it. Thanks! —ShelfSkewed Talk 02:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

You muffed nothing, friend: I'm a supreme mufti here. All my fault. Teamwork makes the dream work. <3 ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

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Producer order question

Hello there! I was combing the edit history of Sundial (album) looking for something unrelated when I saw this edit from you. This ordering was actually my doing, and I alphabetized based on first name rather than last name. Typically I sort by first name/stage name since the list can read strangely when there's a mix of the two, but it seems I might be off base doing that.

I'm struggling to word this concisely, so I'll give an example: if an album was produced by Ariel Rechtshaid, Jack Antonoff, Easyfun, and Cashmere Cat, you would order that Jack Antonoff > Cashmere Cat > Easyfun > Ariel Rechtshaid? Sock (tock talk) 16:36, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Noding for the ages

I saw a familiar username elseweb and, sure enough, it was none other. Fancy seeing you there! jp×g 21:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Ha. I have a dream of noding more consistently some day, but alas. Did anything I wrote do anything for you? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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Coldplay chronology

Please don't include the extended plays on Coldplay's chronology again. The band released 18 of them, but only 5 are notable enough to warrant their own page. Furthermore, making an albums-only chronology allow users to navigate between album articles more easily. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 12:27, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

The consensus is to include all albums in the chronologies, not segregate out certain types. If you want to change that, please take it up on WT:ALBUM. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:41, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Ping

Hey, I pinged you to the Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) just in case you were interested in the thread. Regards, --Thinker78 (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Good deal. It is interesting. Grazie, amigo. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:43, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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	Congratulations on your new global rights. I will be busy and be away for a while in the near future, best wishes to you. -Lemonaka‎ 10:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Merci, amigo. Be well in real life. I look forward to bumping into you in the WikiSphere again. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:40, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Stanley Kubrick filmography

There are templates for all those URLs....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 08:51, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Okay........................................ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Hackney Diamonds. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Why did you post this? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

That should be self-explanatory. You have made 4 reverts in the last 24 hours (1, 2, 3, 4). You have to stop this. – bradv 17:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

These are IPs inserting false information and unsourced claims. Why would I not remove that? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

You made no effort to discuss these or explain why you reverting, neither on the talk page nor on the user talk page. If you are claiming a vandalism or BLP exemption that should be made clear at the time you make the edit. This looks to me like textbook ownership issues. – bradv 17:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

That is not true. See my edit summaries and User talk:2001:871:23:500A:D831:6111:C79E:FEBF and User talk:2001:871:23:500A:ED38:50CC:E93E:816C. Why are you posting these untrue things to my talk page? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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So if someone keeps on inserting that Mickey Mouse is president and cites a People magazine article that never mentions that, I'm not allowed to remove that? Did you look at these edits? Surely you're familiar with WP:3RR and WP:BLP/WP:V/WP:OR. I don't understand this. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It does appear that at least some (if not most) your reverts here would be exempt from WP:3RR as fairly evident vandalism/BLP violation. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 17:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Gwar - The New Dark Ages

Hi, I saw you undid the text I did on Gwar's The New Dark Ages. There are other wiki pages that says "Cover Art by [Artist]" like SOD's Speak English or Die and The Very Best of Meat Loaf. Therefore, it should be allowed. Krisfrosz133 (talk) 03:27, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

It should not. See {{Infobox album}}: the caption field is for when there are multiple versions of an album cover and you provide context for the one depicted. I'll remove its misuse on those pages. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hellmode

As you may have noticed before reading this, I went ahead and made some major changes/additions to the above article. These were mostly based on a draft I've been building since May. If you didn't notice, the redirect version of the page had {{r with possibilities}} on it, which explicitly says "please do not create an article from this redirect". Just wanted to point that out so you know for next time to check for a draft first. Hopefully the history merge goes off without any issues and this won't have been a problem at all. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Well, I'll be: it does explicitly say that, so I owe you an apology. Please forgive me for the headaches, Q. My most sincere apologies and please tell me how I can clean up my mess. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Apology accepted, though it's really not that big a deal. Just a bit more scrambling in my Wikipedia editing this morning than I was expecting. I already took care of the merger so the only bit left is the history merge which, unless you have permissions to handle that, is out of both of our hands. The rest is just making a nice, well kept article, which I'm happy to share the duty on with you and whoever else comes along to edit it. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:57, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

I do not have those permissions. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

L7 discography

Hello again! I wanted to ask you about the exact title of the article L7 (band) discography; how come it's currently named that way? Especially in comparison to the articles of discographies by similarly common names such as Hole and Tool. Wouldn't just "L7 discography" be better? Carlinal (talk) 05:54, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

I think if the main article is "foo (bar)", then articles named after it should be "foo (bar) baz". ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Manual of style

Yo. I'm very interested in getting the albums MoS integrated into the main Wikipedia MoS.

What would be most helpful for me to do? Should I attempt to follow the instructions given after you enquired the MoS page, or do we need a more detailed plan? (Genuinely no idea here.) Popcornfud (talk) 13:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I picked away at it a little bit, but I'm happy to get help for sure. Please dive in. I'll continue to pick away. I don't know that we need a more detailed plan than follow those instructions and then post to WT:ALBUM to get final consensus. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Gotcha. I'll see if I can pick away at it over the coming weeks. Popcornfud (talk) 19:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

theo

Hi yes i saw you on my talk page Theobegley2013 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Nice to wiki-meet you. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes Theobegley2013 (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Album certifications

Hi, I’m not sure how familiar you are with album certifications but I opened up a discussion on here regarding whether or not we’re supposed to keep a sales ref after an album has been updated with a new cert. If you’re able to please comment there. Thank you! Pillowdelight (talk) 00:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

I did see the thread, but I'm not particularly knowledgeable about, nor do I have strong feelings on charts and certifications. :/ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:31, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

That okay, I figured I’d try to reach out. I’ve seen your edits before and knew you were very familiar with music articles. Pillowdelight (talk) 16:50, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Very appreciated. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:31, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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Little Bit of Sun moved to draft

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Sahrawi embassy, Lima

Hi, It's been a while!

As I previously mentioned on my talk page I actually visited the embassy itself after hearing that my country had severed relations with the SADR on September 8. I got to speak to the chargé d'affaires, Mr. Hamdi Sidahmed, and he agreed to an interview in a future date with the ambassador himself. I have therefore updated the ambassador list page without sources, however.

I plan to upload pictures ASAP but I would nevertheless like to know from an experienced editor such as yourself as to how I can approach this maybe? I have firsthand info but naturally I'm unable to source it, and I don't wish to add a reference that reads "This is the page author's personal experience" as it's no good really.

All the best. 180app (talk) 01:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, as you astutely point out, that is not an acceptable verifiable, independent, reliable source. :/ Could be great to host on Wikinews and you can certainly embed the audio in the article, but it can't be used as a source for a claim in the encyclopedia. Exciting development, tho! ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:05, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Unhelpful revert note

Hi, I see you've been doing this for awhile but adding "don't do this" to a revert on Laugh Track with no indication as to what "this" is and referring to three WP: articles that are each as long as the phone book really isn't helpful. Please be clearer in future. Thanks! --David James Young || davidjamesyoungwrites@gmail.com (talk) 04:36, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

How would you suggest I be clearer? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:36, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

If, for instance, someone said to you "stop doing that" and didn't explain what "that" was, you'd be confused wouldn't you? You'd like to know what "that" is so you can not do whatever "that" is. David James Young || davidjamesyoungwrites@gmail.com (talk) 04:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

That doesn't answer my question. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Cool, man. Keep being vague and unhelpful! You're crushing it! xx David James Young || davidjamesyoungwrites@gmail.com (talk) 04:46, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Your point was "You're too vague". Then I asked a question and you answered the question with a question. I don't see how that is helpful. Happy to get constructive feedback, but it seems like you want to be obscure and then rude to me when I ask a simple question. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:49, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@Jane, His Wife: does this help? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Resolved

 – ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:34, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES

Hi, in reply to your edit summary on Laugh Track, WP:ALBUMS/SOURCES says at the top that "This list is not exhaustive. Additional websites and print sources may also be used, provided they meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and WP:MOSALBUM#Critical reception." So just because a site isn't listed there does not mean it can't be used. Also I'm sure Beats Per Minute has an editorial staff and all the requirements to be a reliable source. 120.17.227.247 (talk) 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

How do you know that? If you do know that and can show me, then I'll recommend it be added to that list. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

https://beatsperminute.com/contact/ lists its staff of multiple editors. The page you're linking to specifies just because a site isn't listed there doesn't mean it can't be used or is necessarily unreliable. 120.17.227.247 (talk) 15:52, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

I never wrote that it was unreliable. No one said that it's unreliable: I just don't know that it is reliable. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:02, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

If I Did It: Confessions Of The Killer

Hello, Koavf,

I came across this page as the talk page was a broken redirec that I deleted. I don't understand the message on this page about it being an "unprintworthy" title. I've never seen this notice on a Wikipedia page before and wondered what it meant and whether it was warranted on a redirect. Thanks for any explanation you can provide. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:53, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

As you can see, there are over 1.5 million such redirects here. All it means is that someone publishing a print copy of Wikipedia should not include this title. Let me know if you have any other questions. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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Copying from Category:Windows-only games to Category:Windows games

Why are you doing that? Category:Windows-only games is already a member of Category:Windows games. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

"This is a non-diffusing subcategory of Category:Windows games." ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:02, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Removal of tour dates

Hi there! I noticed you recently made an edit to the article The Record (Boygenius album) removing the list of tour dates from the relevant section. Your edit summary was only "per guidelines" with no particular guideline cited. I just wanted to check in and see what guideline you were referencing for that edit! Thanks in advance! :) P1^{(talk / contributions)} 14:57, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Great question, friend. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#Touring and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_69#Inclusion_of_a_full_tour_schedule_on_an_album_when_the_tour_is_not_notable_by_itself. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:02, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Sweet, thank you so much! P1^{(talk / contributions)} 17:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm Fram. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Fram (talk) 16:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@Fram: See {{in use}}. Stop harassing me or you will be reported. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit like everyone is supposed to instead of trying to create your own rules. You create empty pages or unsourced pages, you still add genres to categories instead of to articles, and so on. You seem to believe that the basic rules don't apply to you for some reason. Feel free to report me, but beware of the boomerang. Fram (talk) 16:47, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Show me a rule that I broke. I'll wait. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

WP:OWN, creating empty pages, removal of valid maintenance tags without addressing the issue, ...? Have you actually read the "in use" page? It is to avoid edit conflicts, not to exclude everyone else and let you do whatever you please. "If this template has been left in place for more than two hours since the last edit, you may assume the placing editor has forgotten to remove it, and you may remove it yourself." I moved the page to draft after you didn't edit the empty page for two hours. Such pages don't belong in the mainspace. Fram (talk) 16:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I didn't break that rule and you never removed the template. Please be a serious person if you are going to post here and stop posting your stupid nonsense. Thanks. "removal of valid maintenance tags without addressing the issue": please stop lying, too. Thanks again. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Cf. lying. If you'd prefer that I just assume you have no idea what you're talking about, I can do that, too. Please advise on if you'd prefer an assumption of ignorance about me adding sources. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

You created an unreferenced article (well, you created an empty one, but when you did add contents, it was unsourced), and you then removed the "unreferenced" tag because you had put the "in use" template, as if that somehow invalidates that tag (again, please read the explanation of what "in use" is for). Only when I readded it did you actually provide a reference. Please stop being uncivil and posting personal attacks. Fram (talk) 17:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

And then what happened about 100 seconds later???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Please actually answer the question. Have you ever read the tag that says "please do not edit this page while this message is displayed"?????????????????????????????????????????? And don't act like the fact that you're "civilly" harassing me means that you're not harassing me. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

"Only when I readded it did you actually provide a reference." Add, Readd. As for the tag, in my opinion you misuse it to WP:OWN the page and avoid having to produce an acceptable article from the start, instead just dropping it in the mainspace and then editing other pages instead. Fram (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

please do not edit this page while this message is displayed No need for your original research about what you think guidelines mean: I don't care and never asked. I've created thousands of articles here, I'm not going to stop because of your harassment. Stop harassing me and do something constructive instead of offering your unsolicited nonsense. If you have nothing better to add, then just stop editing Wikipedia. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Fram, your first move I understand. But regarding the templating, I see that Koavf added the In Use template at 11:04, 12 October 2023, and you placed the tag at 14:32, 12 October 2023‎. The problem with your rationale about the removal after two hours is that it is if there have been no edits. But Koavf had been making edits within two hours of your unref template, up to 14:16, 12 October 2023‎, just few minutes before said edit of yours.

Per Template:In use,

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Therefore, I consider the templating inappropriate, although the excessively colourful language (not the formatting) that Koavf used was inappropriate as well.

I have to mention that I personally would have drafted the page first or in any case used the {{under construction}} template. Although said template could have been used in addition to the "in use" template. Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:04, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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Question

Do editors with the most edits (say top 100) have a special live meeting? Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinker78 (talk • contribs)

If so, they didn't tell me. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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A Barnstar For You!

		The Poorly Drawn Barnstar
		I’m sorry I misinterpreted the peace sign and TCM in your signature to assume you were a pseudoscience defending hippy

Mach61 (talk) 03:34, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Traditional medicines sometimes has insights and can be a useful complement to contemporary medicine, but I'm all about the scientific method. Be well, friend. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Lucha Reyes albums

I have added further sourcing and reverted your redirects of La Morena De Oro Del Peru and Mi Ultima Cancion. These were the debut and final albums of the legendary Peruvian singer Lucha Reyes. Despite her brief three-year recording career, ending with her premature death in 1973 at age 37, Reyes remains one of the most important recording artists in the history of Peruvian music and musica criolla/vals criollo in particular. "Regresa" was the first single from the La Morena album and became a major international hit in 1970; if you want to enjoy a pleasant three minutes, it can be heard here. ("Mi Ultima Cancion", released two months before her death, is also a good listen and can be found here.)

Unfortunately, Peruvian sources from the early 1970s are rarely digitized and are therefore difficult to access. For this reason, historic music from Peru is terribly under-represented on English Wikipedia. That said, I have now added sourcing (including sources taken from the Spanish Wikipedia article here) that demonstrate the importance of these two albums. Rather than eliminating content in these under-represented cultural areas, we should endeavor to expand and improve our coverage of these topics. If you find other Peruvian music articles that are in need of improvement, feel free to ping me and I'll do my best to help. Cheers! Cbl62 (talk) 16:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Everything that has sources is important. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope you enjoy the song links. Ping me if you find other South American music articles that need improved sourcing. Cbl62 (talk) 00:44, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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Captions for certifications

Hi there! I noticed your captions on certification tables and wanted to let you know that the RIAA and a lot of other certifying bodies around the world actually certify music based on shipments so it's not accurate to call them "sales certifications", we just drop the "sales" part I've noticed. The footer of the certification table explains what each country's is based off of. 120.17.52.205 (talk) 02:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. You'll note for one of the newer ones, I've included streaming units. It seems confusing what these certifications are even "certifying". ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

The footer notes explain what the symbols next to each figure means and what each certificate is based off. Trying to explain all of the methods in the caption probably makes it more complex than captions are supposed to be. 120.17.52.205 (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm no expert in the matter, just going off what i've seen editors like muhandes and ss112 say. (And some more i'm forgetting) 120.17.52.205 (talk) 02:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

For sure. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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Category:Assassinated government ministers

Hi Koavf. If you are interested, the subcategories of Category:Assassinated government ministers are in need of getting populated. Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 21:41, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Could be up my alley. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Re "Why didn't that work....?"

It appears that template has two modes, see Template:Album chart#Manual referencing. I'm guessing you were intending to edit the non-manual mode versions of all the possible refs, but edited the manual-mode versions instead.

The non-manual mode versions all don't even use cite templates, they look something like {{#tag:ref|[https://www.billboard.com/artist/{{#invoke:WLink|ansiPercent|{{#invoke:String|replace|{{{artist}}}|&|%26}}|space=-}}/chart-history/digital-albums "{{{artist}}} Chart History (Digital Albums)"].{{dead link|date=October 2023}} [[Billboard (magazine)|''Billboard'']]. {{#if:{{{publish-date|{{{publishdate|}}}}}}|{{{publish-date|{{{publishdate}}}}}}. }} {{#if:{{{access-date|{{{accessdate|}}}}}}| Retrieved {{{access-date|{{{accessdate}}}}}}. }}|name={{#if:{{{refname|}}}|{{{refname}}}|"ac_{{{1|}}}_{{{artist|}}}"}}|group={{#if:{{{refgroup|}}}| "{{{refgroup}}}"}}}} in the later part of the lines. Anomie⚔ 00:12, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. That's so helpful. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:24, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

IFL Teams table

I checked the link you sent me, and there's nothing at all which suggests your new format is more "accessible." In fact, being right-handed, I tend to look for the conference names on the left first, so moving them to the right actual makes it less accessible to me.

Would you mind explaining why your new format is better than my old one? Tom Danson (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Because it has a table caption, semantics for rows and columns, and it doesn't abuse rowspans for internal headings. I don't even understand what you mean by it being less accessible: all of these are Web accessibility requirements, which are clearly outlined at MOS:TABLECAPTION and MOS:COLHEAD. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Just when you make your changes put the conference column in the left, not the right. The right looks bad and makes no sense. oknazevad (talk) 17:18, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay. It's usually nice to put the scope in the far left, but not necessary. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:11, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Universalist church of america

The citation is not complete. It needs: author, article title, and it's useful to include full pages for the article, if it's an article being cited, instead of just one. deisenbe (talk) 13:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

If it has those things, sure. Does this? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:11, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

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