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Hi. Would you explain the inconsistancy with the current convention:

US Airways (Destinations)
           US Airways operated by America West Airlines (Destinations)

and your updated convention?:

Do not list secondary carriers for code share flights. For example, if Air New Zealand operates a domestic flight under its own flight number and an additional Singapore Airlines codeshare, the codeshare can be noted for the Air NZ flight but this should not be listed as a Singapore Airlines flight.

It would be great if you answer the discussion page of WikiProject Airports.

Sentosa Express[edit]

Sentosa Express is not a monorail system! I know that many people thought it is a monorail system, however it is not.

Early discussions[edit]

Hello there Jpatokal, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page or how to format them visit our manual of style. Experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump.

I especially like your articles you created about Thai politics, and I hope you will add more in the future. It would be nice if you then add them to the List of Thailand-related topics as well, as that one makes it easy to check the changes of the Thai topics. andy 10:22, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Honestly, who calls it Komaki anyway? -S.

Hello. Thanks for the data you added to Sakigake Party --Youssef 16:22, 23 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Howdy. Thanks for the update on glutSolidTeapot() - it must be the least-primitive graphics primitive ever (and rather a funny one too, I think).  :) -- Finlay McWalter 14:16, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)

To: The Finn
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I request your assistance in de-lame-ifying Pornography in Japan. Please view and update at your earliest convenience.
User:Sekicho thanks:you.

Thanks for the laksa! shiok!

--zeno 13:31, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi there gn0sis! How's it going for you? Come across any more good food in Singapore yet? Alex.tan 19:01, 24 Jan 2004 (PST)


Thanks for the nice edit on scallions. My draft was pretty ugly. :-< ~ Jake 20:38, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on Japanese Buddhism. I might make a few minor edits, but they will be minor. I don't think the Chinese guy Obaku founded the Japanese sect Obaku -- I think they are named after the same thing. Let me know if I'm wrong.

Nat Krause 16:34, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Good work on Japanese Buddhism. --prat 01:05, 2004 Feb 9 (UTC)

Great additions to the 3G stuff. Imagine my surprise with the tech-heavy WP crowd and the poor state of those articles. On the other hand, perhaps a good indication of how much demand there is for 3G.. hmm... :) Fuzheado 08:43, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

A couple of Wikipedians have taken it upon themselves to rename Hiroshima to Hiroshima, Hiroshima, and do likewise for every other Japanese city. Please help me beat some sense into them by voting at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japanese districts and municipalites. -- Sekicho 22:49, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Kunitaka isn't a vandal.

Quote from 三國史記 卷第四 新羅本紀 第四 智證麻立干

十三年 夏六月 于山國歸服 歲以土宜爲貢 于山國 在溟州正東海島 或名鬱陵島 地方一百里 恃嶮不服 伊飡異斯夫爲何瑟羅州軍主 謂于山人愚悍 難以威來 可以計服 乃多造木偶師子 分載戰船 抵其國海岸 誑告曰 汝若不服 則放此猛獸踏殺之 國人恐懼則降.

This is all about the event of 512 (Samguk Yusa contains the same story). Nothing proves that the state of Usan occupied Liancourt Rocks. It's another Korean farfetched claim. If you keep involving Korea-related issues, I strongly recommend to you to check primary sources by yourself. Good luck! --Nanshu 02:53, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

O.K. I hope you reflect my comment to the article. I have no time to edit it seriously. --Nanshu 03:57, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Would you please rebuild your new article of Setsubun under Talk:Setsubun/temp so we can delete the copyright violation and move your article back? Thanks - Texture 19:32, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads-up! -- Cyan 03:28, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Where the shojo transliterations came from[edit]

I found a table here -> WhisperToMe 16:34, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Liancourt Rocks[edit]

I think SCAP is much more authoritative than Shimane Prefecture. Kunitaka 08:43, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Our friend's up to his old tricks again. I've used up my reverts for the day... Markalexander100 06:07, 6 May 2004 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why do don't add hyperlinks for East Sea from Liancourt Rocks? -- Likejazz 04:30, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hu Jintao[edit]

"There's no need to list the same pinyin twice, and WG is never used for modern PRC leaders; 9 of the top 10 results of a Google search for "Hu Chin-t'ao" are this Wikipedia article! Jpatokal 12:49, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"Hu Chintao" gets 17 hits. "Hu Chin-tao" gets 58 hits. "Hu Chin Tao" gets 6 results. WhisperToMe 23:30, 14 May 2004 (UTC)"

Are the "extra hits" sufficent enough to put the WG back on Hu Jintao's page? WhisperToMe 14:58, 16 May 2004 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The 1994 abolishment[edit]

The article on Hepburn said that modified Hepburn was abolished in 1994. WhisperToMe 05:13, 24 May 2004 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Companies in Tokyo[edit]

Jpatokal, I'm going to have to say this. I know Chiba is not in Tokyo. It said that Kikkoman is based in nearby Chiba prefecture. You did not read what I posted there.

If we get beyond that, the fact that Kikkoman is based there should still be noted because companies based nearby are still a big draw to a city. For instance, look at the companies list for Dallas and Chicago; many companies are based not in the actual city limits but in the suburbs. Therefore, they should be noted here, in the Tokyo article as well. WhisperToMe 03:39, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I responded in talk. In addition, though I have not seen any demographics, I suspect that the situation of Chiba is much like that of Sugar Land of Houston; Sugar Land acts as both an "anchor city" and a suburb. In addition, Kikkoman's headquarters may be associated with Tokyo enough to the point where it should be listed anyway. If I see media reports from post-new headquarters that state that Kikkoman's headquarters are in Tokyo (which they are not), then Kikkoman would come back in. (EDIT: This is the only one so far: WhisperToMe 06:23, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yea, sometimes when I say "Tokyo Metropolitan Area", I really mean "Greater Tokyo Area" (due to U.S. usage of "metropolitan area") WhisperToMe 06:32, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Sauna edit[edit]

Jpatokal, I was just wondering why you removed the foreign language references in this article?


A reminder about the romanization used by Viz's Shonen Jump[edit]

To mark long vowels for some words in Viz's Shonen Jump, the translators use circumflexes instead of macrons to mark long vowels in the translated manga. So if you see circumflexes instead of macrons on pages related to Shonen Jump titles, please do not change them to macrons. WhisperToMe 19:45, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Perhentian Islands[edit]

Hi Jpatokal,

I too have visited Pulau Perhentian and loved it as much as you.

But come on, own up, the article you wrote reads and feels like a Lonely Planet write-up, not an encyclopedic entry.

Do you mind if I edit to make it more wikipedian instead of travel-guide ??? Mercurius 09:25, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Vietnamese Coriander[edit]

Actually there has been a great deal of discussion about capitalization of plant names in articles. I thought perhaps the discussion had gone the other way again while I was out of circulation when you moved the article on Vietnamese Coriander to Vietnamese coriander, but when I created "Cuban oregano", User:UtherSRG promptly moved it to Cuban Oregano. Perhaps this needs to be taken up again on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life. In any case do what you want with the text of the Laksa article (my main object was to avoid redirects), but I would prefer you leave the Vietnamese Coriander article where it is at the moment. WormRunner | Talk 16:30, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

For the record, I prefer the capitalized form. My apologies for having given you the impression I had no preferences. WormRunner | Talk 03:14, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I see you replaced the macaw picture. The "living in North Carolina" text refers to Dave Wooten's macaw, whose picture I put there originally. Could you change it to fit? -phma 00:28, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I'm a user of the Dutch Wikipedia and we are using the photo Image:KLCC PetronasTowers.JPG which you uploaded to the English Wikipedia. But we are actually only allowed to use the photo if we know the copyrightinfo (like author, etc). Can you please write this information down at the page of the image or just talkpage/email/say it to me?

Thanks in advance,
Wilinckx 09:10, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the article on the Alweg company, and for the updates on the Tokyo-Haneda monorail.

Demise of UMNO[edit]

Please refer to my talk page at __earth 23:14, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)

How is "Kame-Sen'nin" incorrect?[edit]

Hi. I'm asking in which context is Kame-Sen'nin incorrect. Is it incorrect in relation to the naming convention of the MOS (Which does not allow diacritical marks in article titles) or is it "incorrect" in that the dash and apostrophe were incorrectly placed? WhisperToMe 22:35, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Another question: Does "Senn" exist in Japanese? If it does, is it possible to render Sennin as Senn-in? WhisperToMe 01:22, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Klang valley[edit]

Just a hi from another wikipedian in Klang valley, at least I think you are too based on your edits. ;-) -- sabre23t 03:52, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You posted on the talk, and I was wondering if you could help balance out Anwar Ibrahim. I've placed the NPOV-dispute notice there as a result of several glaring omissions from the article about the government's point of view, Anwar's critics' point of view, and just about anyone's view except those who support Anwar. I've tried to NPOV it, but my edits are hampered by a lack of in-depth knowledge on Anwar and the claims of his critics. For more, you can see Talk:Anwar Ibrahim. Johnleemk | Talk 10:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Malaysia to do[edit]

Would greatly appreciate it if you could help or add to the great Malaysia to do list on --Malbear 14:06, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have created a similar page for the Thai wikipedians at Wikipedia:Thai wikipedians' notice board. andy 20:53, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Moving stuff from Malaysia to history and VT[edit]

Thanks for doing a move. However, a few thoughts if I may

1) Moving out everything from Malaysia after 1997 seems to imply that the history of Malaysia totally stopped in the 1990s (as if the country got towed out to sea and sunk). Would be nice if you could perhaps summarize and move ou the details yet leave the summary. Also possible to move out the entire section as a whole so that it doesn't truncate the thing.

2) The VT bit is a decision made by Mahathir overturned by the incoming government, hence a summary should be inserted should you feel that the entire chunk is too much detail.

thanks--Malbear 08:17, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jodo-shu headquarters in Onomichi?[edit]

Hello Jpatokal, If you go to and click on About Jodoshu and then Main Temples in Japan, you'll see that the head temple is Chion'in in Kyoto. Not quite sure what's in Onomichi... Fg2 10:49, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

From Christopher Mahan on japanese company names[edit]

I am using the official company name in english, as found on their website.

Since many companies share very similar names, and are similar to brands, it is best, for an english encyclopedia, to use the company's official english name. Christopher Mahan 19:44, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You just created that article - but maybe you haven't noticed there's already ISO 8859-11, which covers the same character set, as the ISO followed the Thai standard. Maybe you should merge your additions there, and make TIS-620 a redirect? andy 12:12, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, IMHO that academic difference does not qualify for a separate article, a simple sentence in the common article would be enough. andy 12:20, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I put it on Wikipedia:Thailand-related topics notice board to attract some more comments. Let's see... andy 12:53, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Alweg 2[edit]

I have added an entry for Axel Lennart Wenner-Gren with link to your Alweg page. As someone who knew Wenner-Gren I am interested to know the background of your entry for Alweg. Email if you prefer is

Alweg 2[edit]

I have added an entry for Axel Lennart Wenner-Gren with link to your Alweg page. As someone who knew Wenner-Gren I am interested to know the background of your entry for Alweg. Email if you prefer is

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Vajradhatu vs garbhadhatu[edit]

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Actually, I don't really know much about that picture; I copied all the information listed about from its entry on commons, which could easily be mistaken. Please be bold in making any changes that you think might improve its accuracy. - Nat Krause 13:37, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I found the description at this website Thangka-gallery. If you click inside the picture you can see detailed views of different parts of the mandala. Though I'm not very familiar with japanese Mandalas it seemed identical to me (the mudras and positions). Tsui (commons) --Tsui 21:56, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

(cur) (last) 07:22, 25 Jan 2005 Jpatokal (→Zen Schools - rmv photo (what is the relevance?))[edit]

It is just that.

The photo is from a Japanese Zen Buddhist temple. One can not tell it appart from other forms.

Now with Nichiren school, especially inside, there is a clear difference. Glenlarson

Chuan Leekpai[edit]

OK, I replied to your comment on Talk:Chuan LeekpaiJ3ff 09:09, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

laksa recipie link is broken[edit]

A recipe for laksa lemak ( seems broken on the Laksa article.

I tasted laksa while visiting a friend in Sydney and look forward to making some at home.

Dennis (talk) (Wiki NYC Meetup)[[]] 22:45, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Tessaiga Vote[edit]

Did you miss that "Other" vote a guy made? The tally is 5-2-1, not 5-2. WhisperToMe 18:32, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Double License[edit]

Hi Jpatokal,

I always wanted to do that anyway, thanks for reminding me. I just haven't had the time to get an overview over the licenses. I still haven't, so I'd like to ask you a question - namely, the double licensing template specifically only includes text contributions - is there any template to license images in the same way? I added a textual note to the tag, just in case.

If you like the photos, you can browse [1] for anything useful. I'd be happy to put anything you can use in the commons - just drop me a note.

Best regards,
Ravn 23:26, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)


You've amended the ß article to say that it's not unique in having no upper case, but you've mysteriously referred to the kra article, which seems to have to do with Ghanaian mythology. Could you explain, please? rossb 10:29, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That's Kra (letter), used in Greenlandic language. -- Curps 10:19, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You might be interested in the above. Do try to look through and contribute. ;)--Huaiwei 09:10, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)


A-macron is a separate letter in Latvian, and it's collated after A. -- Curps 10:20, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Druk Air[edit]

The Druk Air article you added in to the Airlines of Asia category is unfortunately a duplicate - it already appears in the category and in List of airlines as Drukair Royal Bhutan Airlines. Can it be removed?? Ardfern 22:48, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism by 202.156.* - thanks for corrections[edit]

Thanks for correcting vandalism on article Singlish. User: is old known vandal and User: likely his puppet. This person vandalises articles about airliners and East Asia. Since he sits behind shared IP admins do not want to block him (yet). Pavel Vozenilek 18:19, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)


  • hi! I accidently found out that two articles exist about Hakone, namely at Hakone,_Kanagawa and at Hakone. I merged the two at Hakone and redirected Hakone. I tried to copyedit everything to my best knowledge. Please, tell me, if this is ok with you, you seem to be one of the main contributors there. Ben (talk) 07:19, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Please stop misleading people in the Soka Gakkai International article. Many of the information you have put on there is false. It is more important that people not be misled and understand more clearly about the organization.

"Hong Kong" article change[edit]

Please explain why you believed it was necessary to remove the link of the Hong Kong online forum from "External Links." Kirchherr 15:23, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yurikamome article[edit]

The Yurikamome article is great. Everything I wanted to know but was afraid to ask! Well done. -- 08:40, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah, you burst my bubble...[edit]

but you're probably right. On the very day that one of my photographs is Picture of the Day on Commons, you removed a couple of shots from the Okinawa article... Win some, lose some... Fg2 10:34, May 1, 2005 (UTC)


I have added the requested licence (Image:Expo 2005 Flaggs and Corporate Pavillion Zone.jpg). (Honestly I do not understand what this licence says but I feel honoured my photo is used on the main page :-) -ThorstenS 13:39, 1 May 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MTR map[edit]

Hi Jpatokal, I've added the CC license. My new KCR map in similar style isn't quite finished yet, just wait a few days. --Voyager 14:02, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin[edit]

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:55, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

I Need your help on 'Move Tsushima Islands' Issue[edit]

Hi! You appear to be an QUALIFIED interested disinterested bystander... I'm just making the rounds to everyone that has made their mark on Tsushima Islands which lead me to Fg2, (thence to Kigo, then YOU! Congrats! Booby Prize, but I badly need some responisble People to help me mediate therein that are familiar with things Japanese... Sorry, but I infer that's still YOU!) in the last month trying to mediate this flaming revert war — I can use your help — Bring lots O water! (Better yet Beer) Frank

This is the message I've been dropping on anyone on the Talk or Article pages since 13 May, I'd appreciate it if you can familarize yourself on the small article and stand-by to jump in on Tuesday with some cogent watersprays from a logical firehose! Thanks for the trouble -- the issue is trivial, (Is proper name plural or singular, Forsooth!) save there seem to be at least two teens in a war going well over three hundred edits in this one month sampling interval, over 70 edits in the past three days.
  • I would appreciate a rational explaination (after you read my Comments in the subject dispute Talk:Tsushima Islands), of the arguement or arguments you consider vital and germane to the discusion and vote. Frankly, MOST all of you are being silly over nothing of particular importance, since both names can be redirected into the one used. I have left a comment concerning my contribution to the article, which contribution — seems to have triggered the current edit and revision wars. For that I apologize, but see the Comments on the vote. I am also taking the liberty of putting the vote section AFTER the Comments about same.
  • Still, I have just spent over four hours of valuable spare time, and would welcome your thoughts after you read and understand the distinction I put forth between a governments termonology as a governing body and a geographical reference like an archepelego, which it certainly is.
  • More to the point, I'd like to see your defense regarding your favorite POV of what I had to say viz a viz the mergest attitude of the senior editors and administrators that frequent the Wikipedia:VfD discussions. To my recollection, I don't recollect any of you hotheads in this dispute ever spending anytime thereon, possibly excepting Mel Etitis, but rarely even then.
  • In any event, I'm neutral here, and have asked that the article be kept EDIT FREE for the next three days by placing The Inuse template into it — I'd copyedited over two and half hours before I suspended that effort the other night because this shameful fued was going on — proper English grammer does depend, unfortunately, on whether one uses the plural or the singular. I saved that on my hard drive, but I don't need to wade through yet another 70 edits to finish the job. As it is, this matter will probably double the time it takes for such a simple job.
  • If you are local to Japan, some history of the canals or Sea-channel is certainly germane to the ongoing discussion, moreover, any cogent arguement you condsider being particularly telling needs to be clearly repeated in the current on going comments if you want them counted on in the vote.
  • I will make sure this message goes to each contributor to the article the past month, so you are not being singled out. Now is the time to take a deep breath, for rational concise summaries, not all the arguing that is so wearisome in 66 printed pages - half a novelette, I'd guess! It's certainly a lot to ask your fellow editors to wade through on a minor issue.
  • I will also personally be making sure that at least a dozen other Administrators I'm acquainted with take a look at the debate after the time below. I will in fact ask for twenty commitments, so be clear and respectful of our time!!!
  • Thankyou for your time, attention, and good professional behaviour. I'll check the Talk state again no sooner than Monday around Noon (UTC), And ask the uninvolved others to do the same. PLEASE BE CONCISE. 03:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC) 03:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well that's my heads up, and appeal -- Hope you can help. I really don't have a dog in this fight! If you can alert a few others qualified on matters Japanese, by all means, please do so!

  • I forgot to change my boiler plate - I just picked your name off Fg2's Talk on a seemingly appropo topic. Sorry for the goof! fab


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Chinese titles[edit]

Your interests appear to span East Asia... Could you visit Talk:Prince He and Talk:Prince Guo Arrigo 13:16, 28 August 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Yes. As long as this doesn't this doesn't involve me editing hundreds of pages to indicate so. :p Morwen - Talk 11:23, 3 October 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I really have no idea why you think these places aren't associated with prostitution. The next time I go past the local ones, I'll take some photos of the several hundred adverts for prostitutes that are stuck all around the place. If you live in Japan, why don't you try asking a Japanese person what they think? --DannyWilde 12:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

KL public transport maps[edit]

Hi. Thanks for the compliment. I have no problems multi-licensing them. Couldn't really absorb all the text about licensing, so do i have to indicate that in my user page? I created the maps using Illustrator and just exported it to GIF, not sure how to increase the resolution to make them print-friendly. I still have copies of them in Illustrator format. Cheers. -- Slleong 18:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Japanese clans[edit]

Hey Jpatokal!

It looks like you made a major mistake when creating articles about Japanese clans / domains, such as Aizu. A han 藩 is not a clan; its a feudal domain. Feudal domains are given to clans by the shogunate. Ruling families have their own family names, in the case of Aizu that have been 5 different, the last were the Matsudaira, feel free to check ja:会津藩 for reference. Families are marked by the character 家 (should be read ke here). Please help to clean this up. -- Mkill 16:46, 20 November 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi. I re-licensed the images as you proposed. Thank you for informing that they need to be CC licensed to be used in WikiTravel, I din't know that. :) -Oghmoir 10:24, 22 November 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It doesn't seem to work at the Commons. The connection is laggy to the point of driving me insane, so I'll look into it later. -Oghmoir 15:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is it ok now? This has been a good introduction to licensing for me, hehe. -Oghmoir 09:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Mount Tsurugi[edit]

Hi Jpatokal,

Thanks for catching my spelling mistake. I must not have been fully awake. One thing though, I am going to change the reading of yama back to san. The mountain climbing guide book I am using as a source is very clear in in its furigana, that san is used in this case, despite my inability to differentiate ro and ru. Let me know if you have any objections. The source is 北海道貢山gaido#4 Hidaka-sanmyaku no 山yama ISBN4-89363-605-7. --imars 15:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the info I wonder what the Japanese Wiki is using for a source. Perhaps mine is no better. Thanks also for the suggestion about travel wiki. I may look into that some day. I used to live in Hokkaido, so hence my interest. Alas, this is but one of many projects competing for my time. --imars 20:33, 12 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello Jpatokal .... familiair name from :). CyeZ is a Dutch wikipedia who is actually living in Shanghai and as such is blocked and cannot edit :( We really miss him as he produced great articles and together with me in Thailand we were the only ones on nl: on this side of the world. He sometimes manages to get through the blockade. I am sure he will answer you when he does. Waerth 04:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikitraveller template[edit]

I thought you might like to add a userbox for Wikitravel to your home page. The box is at {{User Wikitravel}}. --ESP 15:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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--Gurubrahma 06:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please check your WP:NA entry[edit]

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Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! bd2412 T 03:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Linimo, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Momofuku Ando[edit]

Thanks for the kanji.  OZLAWYER  talk  19:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My edit to your talk post[edit]


I have just edited a talk post you recently made on Talk:High-speed_rail. I removed the text ", except maybe from Wikimachine's imaginary friends" as I worry this could be perceived as a personal attack by some Wikipedia admins. Feel free to re-add it if you wish to accept the risks. Cheers (Congrats on the number of Wikipedia edits you've made btw). Canderra 02:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ny-Alesund picture[edit]

Sure. Dozo. Vincent 03:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


You might be interested in Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Requested move. I really don't understand wikipedia culture well enough yet to comprehend whether this is bogus or not. -- Cjensen 17:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Long talk page[edit]

Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! bd2412 T 00:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RE: Wikimania 2007[edit]

Hello, you are of course welcomed to help. I need organisers actually, but could you help me organise everything for the next two months, I will still be on WP, but I would like you to do the bid details. Would you mind that? Haven't contacted NUS or NTU yet, but could Suntec City or Raffles City be a good venue. Maybe we could try SMU since its in the downtown or else delegates have to go all the way out of town with very limited accessibility. Do you have IM, if you have check my userpage for contact information. --Terence Ong (Chat | Contribs) 10:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I use MSN but if you Yahoo 8 you can add my MSN, I'm using WLM 8. --Terence Ong (Chat | Contribs) 13:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Venice Lagoon map[edit]

Hey. Per your request on my talk page, I've uploaded a copy of the map for you at Image:Venetian Lagoon blank map.png. I think it was one of the first maps I threw together and I'm not very fond of it, but if you want it, go ahead and use it. :-) --NormanEinstein


Hello, I'm organising a meetup around late November hopefully. If you're interested, see here for more details. --Terence Ong (T | C) 06:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

zip code[edit]

Thank you so much for the help! :) Chris 02:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Updated DYK query On 6 October, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Peachliner, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Peta 06:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thanks for improving Peachliner. I think your improvements are what placed it on Did You Know?. Fg2 06:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List Trim[edit]

Thanks for trimming that list on the Gaijin page. I think the tags definitively labelling gaijin as perjorative and identifying it as an ethnic slur should also go: although some people choose to percieve it as such (which deserves mentions), objectively speaking it is neither.
I'm really snowed under with work this week and don't have time to write you a proper reply, and to work out our differences. Actually, we might be closer on many points than I had previously thought (and I, too, am blue-eyed and [dirty] blond—what's left, anyhow).
Regards, Jim_Lockhart 15:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I would appreciate it if you do not remove the telco categories from Vanco again. I work for the company in question, and I reside in the US. It is not 'just a UK company', we have affiliates located in all of the countries in question. Rarelibra 13:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not going to argue about this. Visit Vanco locations to find out more. We are incorporated in all of the countries listed. Rarelibra 13:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Go to the article now and you will see the subsidiary listing in the various countries. I think this will suffice to say it is not "just a UK company". Rarelibra 16:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question answered. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delhi Metro map[edit]

Thanks. Regarding the airport line, i added it based on preliminary news reports according to which the line starts at ND railway station and passes through connaught place, which will be the main boarding point for check in. But due to space constraints at Rajiv chowk it wont have a connection with the metro but will be a seperate station called shivaji terminal, where baggage check in will be done. rgds -- PlaneMad|YakYak 16:29, 11 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Multiple names in lead section[edit]

I am with you on this. I first responded in Wikipedia talk:Lead section#Names in multiple languages in lead, and I wanted to weigh in at Talk:Singapore Changi Airport, too, but there was so much discussion already that I didn't have the time to read it all. But I read that there already was a box in that article, and I completely agree with you that that should be enough. As a matter of fact, I once proposed to deprecate the in-intro parentheses. (See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (China-related articles)/Archive1#Deprecate In-Line in favour of Box?.) Although I got more support than opposition, the opposition had more time on their hands and was so vociferous that the discussion didn't get anywhere. They even deleted the boxes where I had inserted them, as in Xiongnu. This was one of the reasons why I eventually took a long wikibreak. — Sebastian (talk) 17:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)    (I stopped watching this page. If you would like to continue the talk, please do so here and ping me.)Reply[reply]


Thanks for the edit you found regarding Pumpkin Pie. That user has now been blocked for evading her ban. I will be alerting the Japanese community at [2] so they can take action if desired.--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 04:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there. A Mediation cabal case has been opened regarding the dispute at Changi Airport. The mediators, User:Hunterd and I, would like to hear everyone's stand on the dispute. Any input is very welcome at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-18 Singapore Changi Airport#Discussion, could you please indicate your stand regarding the dispute, and why you think the names should stay/go? Thanks, – Chacor 02:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, Jpatokal. I noticed that you've previously voted in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)/Prefectures and macrons. A similar poll on macrons is taking place until Dec. 13 at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles)#Poll: "Ryūkyū" instead of "Ryukyu". The voting seems to be deadlocked, with many outside voters rather than frequent contributors to the WP:JP project like yourself. It would really help if you can either comment or vote there, although I'll understand if you would prefer to stay out of the controversy. Thank you for your consideration.

(For full details and background information, see Ryukyu vs. Ryūkyū (in the WP:MOS-JA talk page) and Talk:Ryukyu Islands.)--Endroit 19:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Greetings! You are being contacted to be notified that a Request for Arbitration has opened and you were listed as an involved party. You can find the discussion and make a statement at Wikipedia:Requests for Arbitration#Huaiwei and Singapore Changi Airport. Thank you for your cooperation. thadius856talk|airports|neutrality 20:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jpatokal: thanks for alerting me of the lack of case closure. The Duke of Jpatokal 00:15, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Licensing on Image[edit]

Hi. I uploaded the image found here on the English Wikipedia but since I don't know the Malaysian language, I didn't know the licensing on the original image: here. I see you know Malaysian; could you tell me the licensing on the original image? --Anthony5429 04:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AFD notice[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Singil Station, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singil Station. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --MECUtalk 21:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes. Although you didn't edit Singil Station, you related a page that I bundled with this page, which is why I notified you. Look at the AFD, and one of the pages listed there you edited. Sorry, I don't remember which one. --MECUtalk 02:11, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, SSAWS, was selected for DYK![edit]

Updated DYK query On December 31, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SSAWS, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 14:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Updated DYK query On February 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Noto Airport, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Hello Jpatokal and thanks for your many contributions bringing Japan to the front page of Wikipedia. Happy editing, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guangzhou Metro[edit]

Hi Jpatokal - the map you asked for has been updated and the line colours changed to their new ones. I've got rid of the original map from the page. JROBBO 00:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

About Taipei MRT route map[edit]

All three languages versions of Taipei MRT Route Map drawn by me are all multi-licensed with Creative Commons by-sa now :) --Littlebtc 18:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Diosdado Macapagal International Airport[edit]

My reason for moving Manila-Clark to Angeles City is that the airport that Tiger is serving serves Angeles City not Clark (see the infobox of the airport). For example Narita International Airport it is indeed located in Chiba but we still state Tokyo-Narita in the destination lists because the airport serves Tokyo (see infobox of airport).

Another reason is that it doesn't necessarily mean that if the airline refers to it as Manila-Clark, we should indeed state Manila-Clark, instead we should state Angeles City because DMIA serves Angeles City not Manila-Clark. For example Flyglobespan will be flying to Hamilton/John C. Munro International Airport in May of this year, and they refer to the airport as Toronto-Hamilton International Aiport[3] but in destination lists we state Hamilton, not Toronto-Hamilton because the airport clearly serves Hamilton (see infobox of the airport).

As of now I won't make any further changes. Thanks for your time. -chris^_^ 13:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would really like a reply Jpatokal. -chris^_^ 15:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re:Cremation in Hinduism[edit]

Hi Jpatokal, what you said sounds correct. Within Hinduism, religious leaders such as sannyasis are often buried in salt with mausolea-like structures built over them which are called are called Samadhis - referring to the belief that they have not 'died' in the common sense of the term (i.e to be re-born) and are instead merely carrying on their samadhi (perfectional meditation) elsewhere in existence. I know very little about the other exceptions you mentioned, but do know it is also common practice to place bodies into holy rivers such as the Ganges where cremation is innapropriate, or as an alternative. Best Wishes, Gouranga(UK) 16:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your recent addition to the Hinduism article. Can you please take a look at my related comments on the talk page. Abecedare 18:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Request handled by:  Netsnipe  ►  09:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, aojiru, was selected for DYK![edit]

Updated DYK query On February 11, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article aojiru, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 19:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I've written some articles on Visual Kei bands that are in danger of deletion for lack of proper references. If you read Kanji, could you find me some? Here are the links:

Here's another I didn't write that also seems in danger:

Also, I see complaints that "notability" has not been established, which would be evidence of national hits, national or international tours, awards, etc. I'd greatly appreciate your help. Thank you.Pkeets 21:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another editor has listed an article that you have been involved in editing, Nan (artist), at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nan (artist). Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --Eastmain 23:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC) --Eastmain 23:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dokdo naming dispute[edit]

Hey, another Dokdo naming dispute has arisen, & RM has taken place. Please check archive for previous discussions & pariticipate in the vote. Thanks. I'm also going to note all others who participated in the previous poll. (Wikimachine 18:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Thanks for Ho Yeow Sun page[edit]

Thank you for alerting the admin about the edit warring and vandalism on the Ho Yeow Sun page. I tried editing it almost a year ago but keep finding my edits deleted by User Jing13, so I gave up my efforts. I'm glad someone's finally alerted an admin about it.

Regards. Mark Choo

comment on Ho Yeow Sun page[edit]

Saw an edit of yours on the talk page (went there from the rfc) I got as far as June 8 under the controversy section. Your arguments in the discussion seem to be pretty good so far, but I wanted to urge you to strike through you comment about suing for defamation (june 8 02:51 UTC). From what I've seen threats of legal action, of any kind, can get you blocked on wikipedia. In case you didn't know. . . R. Baley 07:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It was posted with tongue firmly in cheek (hence the smiley), but I've deleted it anyway. Jpatokal 07:44, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I thought you were promoting the more NPOV and I just didn't want to see you get into any trouble for no good reason. happy editing R. Baley 08:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Updated DYK query On 20 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sea pineapple, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 12:22, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for helping me with the Ho Yeow Sun article. The reason why I changed the words is to avoid copyright issues. Apparently the person doesn't understand that. - 09:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thanks for the chuckle. Exploding Boy 18:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Love hotels revert[edit]

Please see my comment on the Love Hotel talk page before reverting my edit again. ShizuokaSensei 05:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mu and Exceptions[edit]

Jpatokal, I anonymously added a link to exception handling to the Mu (negative) page. Your edit comment says that you don't think they are related. I disagree. For example, if overrunning an array throws an error, then that's like this exchange:

Q: What is element five of this two-element array?
A: Mu.

How do you see it? —Ben FrantzDale 03:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Licensing of Maldives maps[edit]

Licensing of Maldives maps[edit]

Greetings -- could you dual license your excellent maps of Maldives' atolls under Creative Commons by-sa 1.0? This would allow us to use them on Wikitravel. Jpatokal 07:22, 15 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Jpatokal! I am currently a bit busy to tag them. You may tag the image and use it in Wikitravel. Thanks --Oblivious 17:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the rhubarb[edit]

I can't spend as much time as I'd like on the List of Culinary Fruits page but it certainly needs some straight minds :)--Tallard 18:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shigechiyo Izumi.[edit]

Yo. So you stated on the Shigechiyo Izumi talk page that both his parents died within half a year or so. Can you send/show me the Japanese article? Thanks. Neal 22:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Okay, after re-reading your statement, I guess when you said 'article' you meant Japanese Wikipedia article, not the newspaper article about his biography. I tried typing his name in the Japanese Wikipedia, no luck, can you link me directly to that? Neal 22:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Singapore Airlines article[edit]

Hi Jpatokal, as you can probably guess, I have almost had it with being unable to edit the Singapore Airlines article without hitting a brick wall with Huaiwei. You may have read on the article talk page that I have mentioned to Huaiwei, that if he continues to revert verifiable information with unverifiable info, or continues to remove dispute tags from the article (and claim that I need to get concensus to even add them), that I would file a RFC/U in regards to this. Going back thru your own history, I see that you have been involved with Huaiwei and a mediation cabal (which he didn't participate in and then claimed that he wasn't given the opportunity). Do you think that RFC/U would be appropriate in this case? You too have hit the nail on the head, in calling the fanboyism (as much as we shouldn't use that word, there is no other for it) on the SIA article, and it is holding the article back, and unfortunately is holding me back from editing other articles, such as Aeroflot, in which Huaiwei has attempted to include highly NPOV info (such as this diff for example). So I would be interested to hear your opinion on what you would do in this situation if it were me. --Russavia 17:49, 14 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply to Your pic on Singapore Expats[edit]

I see. That website.. is full of pictures copied from other sources, and copyright violations. Even the other MRT images appear to have been copied from Siemens and Nippon Sharyo, while the LTA map appears there too, even watermarked by them. Ill see what I can do about it. Thanks for informing me! Advanced 15:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright violation in Content provider[edit]

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To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Content provider, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 15:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Singapore Meetup

Meetup 11

  • Status: Upcoming
  • Date: Saturday, 15 April 2023
  • Time: 12:00pm - 2:00pm
  • Place: Lifelong Learning Institute

Please indicate your interest on the meetup page.

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Hi Jpatokal, you have been invited to attend the SGpedians' meetup on 29 December 2007. We are planning to make this a full day event, but you may join/leave at anytime you wish. If you can or cannot make it, please leave your name here. It will be good to have you at the meetup. Terence (talk) 09:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, I know they're not "my" standards, but I'm just following the last-name convention in Manual of Style. Pandacomics (talk) 00:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Burj Dubai[edit]

In the edit summary to your recent edit of Burj Dubai, you claim to have fixed a broken <ref> tag. I'm curious why you made this change, because it worked OK before (and still works OK now). Astronaut (talk) 14:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's OK with my browser (IE 6, if you're interested). On strange browser related things, your signature on my talk-page came out as four tildes. Maybe I have a browser problem too? Astronaut (talk) 15:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why was tsuyu just removed from the article without comment? Badagnani (talk) 02:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh, it's back. Badagnani (talk) 02:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thaksin's nickname[edit]

You say that meaw is not the Thai word for cat, but is a derogatory name for Hmong people. Question: why would Thaksin's parents give him a derogatory nickname? Maybe this is a nickname he has been given by his political enemies in Bkk, where people generally despise northerners, but it cannot be his original nickname, the one his friends and family use. So what IS his original nickname? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Excuse me for butting in, and I can't answer for Thaksin's parents et al., but the use of derogatory nicknames as a kind of shield is an extraordinarily ancient practice that likely goes back to when naming began. It should be a subject in its own write, or at least added (with scholarly references that I lack) as a major section to name. Some might consider Intelligent Mr Toad to be derogatory; my own wiki:user name, if not downright derogatory, is at best deprecatory (now I'll copy this to your talk page.) Pawyilee (talk) 04:14, 26 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mokichi Okada[edit]

As much as i like to uncover a religious undertaker as a Pied Piper ...
You cannot proove the source for "his fortune as a black marketeer". Shure, in Japan, during the rebuilding after 1945, the black market has ben the main market. However, apart of that, Okadas involvement is just an unproven myth here, exclusively perpetuated in wikipedia and related websites. You share a responsibility for that.
Where have you "heard" the black marketeer version? "No Source" can happen to anybody, no problem. I suggest, you retract your remark from the article, until you have a proof. I would support such remark, when the proof is doubtless. As we should reject religious POV, we equally should reject rumours and discrediting buzz.

--Fluss (talk) 06:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RE: COI & edit war[edit]

Thank you for your comment earlier. Seeing both u & Pandacomics have been upholding one of the five pillars of Wikipedia on the article 'Ho Yeow Sun' all these while, I've filed a page protection request until the case is fully resolved as per talkpage discussion, in view of the on-going acts of sockpuppetry & anonymous IPs (recalcitrant sockpuppet-masters or their misguided accomplices) reverting such inclusion unabatedly even at these very moment.[4]. Do follow-up for COI or ANI resolution whichever most appropriate, as I've given final warnings to Jing 13 & Cane sg (likely sockpuppet) earlier that were ignored or circumvented. This nonsense has to end for the common good of Wikipedia in the long run. Rgds. -- Aldwinteo (talk) 08:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I have started asking why at users talk page - hopefully something will be replied about SatuSuro 05:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi! Wasn't reverting you but rather when you reverted the incidents, you left some other content omitted so that was the easiest way I knew to get back to the clean version with all the content. Your change was fine, I just wanted to pick up the rest that was removed. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 05:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi! The flights to EWR should stay as "Newark". The airport is located in Newark, New Jersey not New York and the offical name is "Newark Liberty International Airport". I have started a discussion on this topic at WP:AIRPORTS. Thanks! Audude08 (talk) 21:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, casual reader, just wanted to say i support your edits to the Gaijin page and feel that race should be left in the lead as it doesn't make sense that a term can refer to ethnicity and not race (the terms being so interchangeable and close in meaning) I don't that's OR so hopefully you can keep Jreading and slp1 from going nuts on the article and removing decent edits as seems to have happened in the past by reading the discussion page. Word. (talk) 04:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An Extended Hepburn System[edit]

I hope you remmember an alternative romanization system. It is a transliteration system of the full set of Kana syllabary. Please read User_talk:WhisperToMe#an_alternative_romanization--Kmns tsw (talk) 13:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Disambiguate Jakarta[edit]

There. I have undone my edits. Only Singapore Changi Airport will have Jakarta disambiguated...and i wasn't the one who disambiguated it in the first place. One editor seem to have this idea and others don't and its just getting me all confused. Audude08 (talk) 05:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Cute, but I do not consider striking out someone else's comment as polite, even if they were insults. I would, instead, contemplate whether I deserve such an insult. Do you not? ;)--Huaiwei (talk) 16:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No one on Wikipedia deserves to be insulted, and insults work against Wikipedia's community. --Matt (talk) 16:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I wonder why you removed my comment in Tokyo without an explanation ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 17:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I had to remove your last comment in order to clear a vandalism (a wikipedia bug maybe) please feel free to add it again if you want to. Miguel.mateo (talk) 10:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Singapore Airlines request for formal mediation[edit]

Hi, as the informal mediation in relation to the various issues regarding the Singapore Airlines article was not successful, I have now instigated a request for formal mediation on these issues at MedCom at this link. As you have been involved in editing this article in direct relation to the various disputed issues and/or have been active in discussion regarding these issues on WP:AIRLINES, previous dispute resolution attempts, or on the talk pages, if you believe that you are involved, then please take a look at the MedCom request, and add yourself and any issues as you see fit. Thanks --Россавиа Диалог 18:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Ton image est maintenant disponible sur commons à cette adresse. Mikani (talk) 06:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you please use some more references in the article especially in the "History" section? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 03:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Interesting. It means you do not have reliable sources to use in the article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 03:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delhi Metro[edit]

Hi dear!! I (Abhishek971) had loaded correct informations on Delhi Metro, but you have deleted many of them. I gave absolutely reliable references. Also you said that I should not refer to such sites (Delhi Metro Rail Corporation's official website). Don't you think that for any project, its official website is the most reliable source !!!. I have one more doubt regarding Delhi's population as stated in wikipedia. In the list of cities proper by population, Delhi's population was grossly understated. The reference was taken from some world gazatter, which states Delhi's population at some 9.7 million. But in reality the municipal population of Delhi was 13.8 million according to the Census of India, 2001. Controversy over metropolitan population is understandable as there many different rules to calculate it, but there is no controversy over Delhi's population at all because it is the population of city proper and the city has its own government (known as Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi, GNCTD or Delhi Govt.). You can yourself check it by using a search engine and keywords Delhi population (Don't use sites which give population statistics of many cities in a tabular form, as they are often misleading). You will see that 2001 population was 13.8 million, in 2004 it was 15 million, in 2006 it was 16 million and so on. According to a study by Population Reference Bureau, Washington, Delhi's (city proper) population was 16.5 million ([[5]]) in 2007 and metropolitan population was 21.5 million. Even if we consider the old census figures of 2001 (13.8 million), then also Delhi is the world's most populous city proper. I don't understand what stupid world gazatter is, which states Delhi's 2008 population as 11.5 million, even lower than 2001 population !!!!

I tried to incorporate the actual figures and cited half a dozen references but still what we see is a big lie. I hope you will help wikipedia in breaking myths and letting the world know the truth by adding correct figures from proper sites (instead of referring to a stupid site like world gazatter and others).

Singapore Airlines formal request for mediation (2nd filing)[edit]

Hi, as the informal mediation in relation to the various issues regarding the Singapore Airlines article was not successful, I have now instigated a request for formal mediation on these issues at MedCom at this link. As you have been involved in editing this article in direct relation to the various disputed issues and/or have been active in discussion regarding these issues on WP:AIRLINES, previous dispute resolution attempts, or on the talk pages, I have added you to the involved parties list, so if you agree to participate, please sign your acceptance on that page. Thanks --Россавиа Диалог 21:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi ! The image metro_map_big.jpg from Delhi metro website [[6]] doesn't seems to have any copyright violation issue. This image is directly used by many. I am giving some links where you will find its use: - 1. [[7]] 2. [[8]] 3. [[9]] 4. [[10]]

You can also search yourself by using keyword metro_map_big. I did not find any copyright issues on the DMRC's website. What should be the right procedure to use this image? (This image is most comprehensive of all, and is extensively used as a reference by Wikipedia and others)Abhishek971 (talk) 09:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Singapore Airlines formal request for mediation[edit]

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Ishta-deva vs. yidam[edit]

Greetings. I see you've a lot of experience with Vajrayana topics. There is a discussion underway about moving "Ishta-deva (Buddhism) to "yidam"--if you'd care to review the arguments pro and con on the talk page, your input would be appreciated.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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We need to put in a lock request for Bihar, I tried once before but got no response. The intro has been rendered completely unreadable. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Yes have read WP:REDLINK. As I interpret it, neither an article on a traffic junction nor one on a non-notable area of Jakarta are sustainable. Please do not order me to write articles. Have you read WP:CIVIL? Davidelit (talk) 08:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jpatokal, apart from the question of notability, it's a bit ironic insisting on adding red links, yet asking those who don't want them to write the article/s. This is not the Indonesia wikipedia - quality standards are much higher in terms of notability, referencing, and we don't litter articles with red links to articles that are niether notable, or likely to get written. If *you* think they are notable, then create a 1-sentence stub. If they are not notable, then others can put them up for deletion. --Merbabu (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you look very very carefully on the talk pages of some of the more atrocious lists on Indonesian subjects in this wikipedia you will find my sig - for a while I had a specific focus on static red link lists created that never were followed up. Its an endemic disease that has festered the credibility of the Indonesian project - and I simply removed the larger lists of red links to the talk pages, and left the linked items on mainspace - and nothing has happened - red links in the Indonesian project show what happens - a name is put up and nothing further eventuates - no editing no revisiting over a considerable length of time. Pointless, please do not create or ask for something that never happens SatuSuro 23:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy deletion of Acision[edit]

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Exchange Duuude007[edit]

Hi Jpatokal. I see you've had an exchange with Duuude007 on his moving of articles on various Democrat Parties, changing "Democrat" to "Democratic". Just thought I'd alert you to the fact that I have started a similar exchange with him. I contacted him on his talk page; he responded (on his own page at my request, with a note on my page); I responded in turn; he erased the conversation. I've transferred the exchange to my own talk page, and invited him to respond there. We'll see how we go.

Cheers, Koro Neil (talk) 22:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Khmer > Thai numerals[edit]

Thank you very much for your addition of Khmer numerals to the chart! Pawyilee (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ovophis monticola edits[edit]

Hi Jpatokal, First of all I want to thank you for your recent edits to the Ovophis monticola article, specifically regarding the subspecies O. m. makazayazaya. The taxon author, Takahashi, was definitely spelled wrong (I'll let the ITIS people know about this error) and it's always a challenge to match the names of given geographic locations to Wikipedia article names. The only remark I'd like to make concerns the way in which you did that last part. Despite the fact that the geographic information was referenced, you changed the spelling for "Arishan" to "Alishan", gave "Majia" for "Makazayazaya" and completely deleted "Chuchuku." The problem with this is that, technically, you've altered referenced information with this edit. It may not seem like such a big deal, but I assure you that it is important. I've now changed the geographic range information to look like this:

[[Taiwan]]: Chuchuku, [[Alishan|Arishan]], [[Majia|Makazayazaya]] and [[Taipei]].

Now the text is once again true to the given reference (Gumprecht et al., 2004), while the links now take the reader to the articles for the correct locations. Except for Chuchuku, these changes may seem subtle, but they make all the difference. You may also consider making a "Makazayazaya" redirect for the "Majia" article and an "Alishan" redirect for the "Arishan" article. Thanks, (PS -- Please answer here if necessary, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The geographic names appear to date from Takahashi in 1922, when Taiwan was still a Japanese colony, and the names are hence in Japanese. Using them in a modern English-language encyclopedia to describe places in China (Taiwan) is like describing the range of another snake as "Preussen, Frankreich and Österreich-Ungarn".
The identity of Alishan, Majia and Taipei is not in doubt. "Chuchuku", however, is almost certainly another misspelling, and it's mangled beyond recognition.
The other problem is that any range given in 1922 is thoroughly obsolete anyway. 台湾大百科, sourced to 《台湾两栖爬行动物图鑑》 (大自然出版社,1999) and 《蛇类大惊奇》 (远流出版事业股份有限公司, 2004), gives the distribution as "大屯山区、宜兰福山、乌来、北横公路、阿里山、南横公路和屏东的玛家,都只有零星的观察纪录,可能是500至2000公尺以上中低海拔地区都有分布的蛇类", or "Datunshan, Yilan-Fushan, Wulai, Beiheng Gonglu [a highway], Alishan, Nanheng Gonglu [another highway], Pingtung-Majia and occasionally in other mountain regions between 500-2000 meters of altitude" — no mention of Taipei (which is at sea level) or anything remotely like "Chuchuku". Jpatokal (talk) 12:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey, I think it's great that you know all this and looked it all up. If what you say is correct, then I'm sure Gumprecht will have gleaned this information from old manuscripts, probably from Takahashi's, rather than based it on anything more recent. That's not surprising, as this kind of research is full of old names, especially when it comes to rare species and type locality descriptions that are up to 250 years old. However, all I wanted to say is that, as long as we don't have any better sources for the geographic range of this subspecies (or any other taxon), we should strive to remain faithful to the references that we have and not be tempted to substitute that information with whatever we think is more appropriate; something that could possibly be interpreted as original research. The way it is now is perfect, because it is not only an accurate reflection of the source material mentioned, but also shows that we've done our best to link those old names to their current localities. As for where the mysterious Chuchuku is, maybe somebody else will have an idea about that later on, but in the mean time we should follow Gumprecht's example and leave that up to the reader's imagination. --Jwinius (talk) 13:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discussions are taking place on the update to the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles.[edit]

The Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles (the original discussion regarding which you were involved in) has been in limbo as a historic proposal for quite a while. Discussions are taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Updating the Manual of Style in hopes of developing the page into a usable guideline. A major issue being discussed is the naming of articles on Thai royalty, which so far has relied on the status quo, but lacks clear community consensus. You may be interested in contributing to the discussion. Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good patience on Korea Train Express[edit]

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DYK for Bangkok Elevated Road and Train System[edit]

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User:Ewawer (talk) reverted my changes to the Visa (document) article. I'm not complaining, just let me know which diff is more beneficial to the article. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Futaba Channel[edit]

Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 18:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I appreciate your reading of the article, but I had to revert some changes. It was the black needles, not "black marks" (marks on what?), that astonished Lim's clients. Furthermore, the article is following the sources for the information on the Siamese deity Lim used. As there is very little reliable information on who or what Pragngan is (which Wikipedia also lacks an article on), I would advise refraining from redefining what the deity was said to be. Jappalang (talk) 11:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proposal for new Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles[edit]

A drafted new version of the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles has been started here. Still at issue are specific naming conventions for Thai royals and nobles and settlements. As contributor to previous discussions on the guideline, you are welcome to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Updating the Manual of Style (part 2). Paul_012 (talk) 18:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Indonesian volcanoes[edit]

There was a lengthy conversation a year or two ago regarding the lead sentence and title of article and heading - in relation to the usage - and as if can remember where it is :( - - I think we dont have 'former spelling' in the other 100 or so - but hey i'll take days to remember where we had the conversation - also we worked on the tying in usage consistency across the articles and the list' SatuSuro 13:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for this edit to the Kwangmyŏngsŏng-2 article. I was interested to know the official name of the rocket used, and did not see it when I read it. A Google news search found that recent news articles continued to refer to the launch vehicle as the Taepodong-2, which surprised me, given the DPRK government's position that this was a peaceful satellite launch. Nonetheless, since that was what seemed to be what was being reported, that's what I used. In retrospect, I should have done a different news search! I'm glad to see you correct the name and add the KCNA news report and Unha-2 Wiki article reference. They add tremendously to my understanding of the incident. Best regards, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 04:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It wasn't me! Someone else edited it as being in operation and since there was no dispute then + the opening is in 29 days, it seemed alright to update in advance. I even bothered to put in a "as at"[edit]

Someone edited pls check. I merely streaminlined the info to reflect the "change" made by someone else, and even adding a "As At"


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Hello. I've given you IPBE due to the recent SingNet Tor blocks. You don't need to do anything different, but please check WP:IPBE for the relevant policy. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello again Jpatokal. I've removed your IPBE, not as a reflection on you but because as I'm fairly sure it is no longer necessary. Feel free to drop me a line if SingNet has similar problems in the future. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NowCommons: File:Senkoji MonjuNyorai.JPG[edit]

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Ho Sun[edit]

Please do not revert this edit. It is factually incorrect to call her "music director" when David Yem was music director while she was Worship Pastor. The cited reference of Derek Dunn's "personal communication" is completely incorrect and unverifiable. I have listed two other references - music director David Yem, and Richard Fowler as well as Derek Dunn. You will not find any online refutations to this, other than Sun's interview where she said she's not a "preacher". So please do not revert this and turn this into an edit war.

Thanks--TheThankful (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia even has an article quoting David Yem as being music director while Sun was at CHC -

"We want church music to cross over and impact the marketplace in the area of arts and the media. So that as a church, we can be relevant to society and we can touch the hearts and spirits of both young and old and through that, allow them to feel the anointing and feel the heart of God wants to say to the heart of the world, through the church. ”

— David Yem, Music Director of City Harvest Church, Harvest Times, January-March 2006 Issue

David was music director, Sun was worship pastor. Leave it be. --TheThankful (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

David Yem has been music director since at least 1998/99. --TheThankful (talk) 17:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here is another example of a person similar to a music director, but with added pastoral responsibilities who is NOT a "preacher", but is a worship pastor: (talk) 17:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recruitment for wikiproject Egypt[edit]

As I understand it you are looking for an editor to take over Wikitravel Cairo. I'd be glad to help in something like that. I live in Cairo and have extensive knowledge on Wiki editing. I'm currently free and can focus extensively on working on such a project. I've got two featured lists and over 2,900 edits on Wikipedia alone. I also am working a lot on Wiki commons where I have deep knowledge of Egyptian copyright and general copyrights. I am fluent in Arabic, German and English. Please give me more information on the required job. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 18:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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I've put back your IPBE, if the SingNet proxy problem doesn't get resolved on the other page, then m:XFF_project#Trusted_XFF_list would probably be the right place. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Scandalizing the court?[edit]

I've posted some information on the Talk:Contempt of court page re: scandalizing the court.--Cahk (talk) 04:43, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delhi Metro[edit]

This is with reference to your post regarding updating of the length and no. of stations in the Delhi MRTS article. You have mentioned that the reference article mentions 67 stations, but after opening of Yamuna Bank station on May 10, 2009, the no. of stations increased to 68 and the track length increased by 2.1 km to 76.7 km. These updated figured are already mentioned in the wikipedia article in the operating lines section, but the box was showing older figures, the reason for which I updated it. I could not find an article on net which could show news about opening of Yamuna Bank station along with the new length simultaneously. So I am adding 2 references - one with details prior to opening of Yamuna Bank station and other regarding opening of this station. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishek971 (talkcontribs) 08:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply][edit]

I removed edits that were unsourced or sourced to a commercial attorney site with a pretty clear disclaimer that it doesn't meet WP:RS. Flowanda | Talk 03:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yamanote and Shitamachi[edit]

Going all the way back to replace the breezy, unencyclopedic, and poorly formatted content was not the right decision at least from the discussion I've been involved with at Talk:Yamanote (and not WT:JAPAN). Having well written and formatted encyclopedic stubs is better than having flowery poorly formatted essays.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 01:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Before you undo everything again (which you have no consensus for), discuss it at Talk:Yamanote.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Trying to end the dispute at Joseon Dynasty[edit]


I've tried to post a constructive suggestion at Talk:Joseon Dynasty#Time to nip this in the bud, in attempt to end the edit warring at this article once and for all. If you have time, your input would be welcome. Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 04:00, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Gurgaon Metro[edit]

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BorgQueen (talk) 12:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Jpatokal! I have started a discussion about the Subang/Kuala Lumpur dispute on the article's talk page. Your comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Charmedaddict (talk) 04:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. So far, you are the only interested editor who has accepted mediation over this article at the case page. If the dispute is still ongoing, I would suggest reaching out to the other interested editors and request their participation, or at least request a response to the proposed mediation. Once we have all parties at the table, we can begin our discussion. Happy editing, Vicenarian (Said · Done) 18:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hmmm - now he brings out the anon IP's. --Merbabu (talk) 10:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Proposed deletion of Barack Obama Joker poster[edit]

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Hi. Lots of things are extensively covered by the media but are not of any lasting importance. I don't feel like spending the time on an AfD however so I will leave the article alone. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chorionic hematoma[edit]

glad to see you were able to expand on that stub. I keep a wiki of my notes, and whenever I notice I have something that wikipedia doesn't, I try to remedy that, but I generally don't go any further. Thanks for your expansion. Niels Olson (talk) 23:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Hi, Jpa! Why not archive the old discussions on your talk page? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To Aru/Toaru[edit]

You seemed to know a great deal about Japanese etymology -- can you offer any input on the move discussion at Talk:To Aru Majutsu no Index? Doceirias (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Wikipedia:MOS-JA#Names_of_modern_figures reads that the Hepburn name with macrons is to be the last possible choice for the name of modern Japanese figures. First choice is the person's legal name in English. Second is a name form existing in a dictionary. Third (and fourth) is the spelling in the Latin alphabet the subject of the article has chosen. To use your example, The Prince of Darkness (talk · contribs) and his false assumptions of what WP:MOS-JA says, he'd move Yasuhiro Nightow to "Yasuhiro Naitō", Masamune Shirow to "Masamune Shirō", and Tite Kubo to "Taito Kubo". Merely because Yoko Kanno and Ryuichi Sakamoto don't use methods of writing their name in the Latin alphabet like Nightow, Shirow, or Kubo, does not mean that we should default to the Hepburn system of writing their name.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 03:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your rant is misguided, factually incorrect, and in the wrong place. Jpatokal (talk) 05:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, no, and maybe. I am telling you how I believe the guideline is currently written (use the subject's preferred spelling over Hepburn), how it has been applied (to these various pages), how TPoD would treat these other articles, and how I believe you were wrong in your assumptions on the other page. Rather than make a non sequitur in the discussion at WT:MOS-JA, I would rather explain myself moreso here.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. → WT:MOS-JA Jpatokal (talk) 06:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Very well then.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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(this is a copy: the original barnstar is right where it needs to be)

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Awarding the Rosetta Barnstar to Jpatokal for translating bureaucratic jargon into plain English and for a much-overdue injection of common sense. Durova351 01:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

JLPT deck?[edit]

Deär sïr,

I see that you are quite skilled and generous as regards the JLPT (JLPT Study). As I am studying for such things, though far less advanced than yourself, and the link for your excellent revised JLPT 1 deck is missing, perhaps you could indicate where I might find it, or if perhaps you have a copy – I would be most appreciative. (Hope your travels go well.)

よろしくお願いしまう —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up and the reminder. The link should be fixed now, and I've uploaded a revised version with grammar included to Mnemosyne at [11]. Jpatokal (talk) 01:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks kindly – looks great!
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Chinese names in Singapore[edit]

Sorry, this is in reference to which post? Also, I only delete it when appropriate (for example, if something has no relevance to Chinese Singapore, and the only available translation given is Chinese, it doesn't make much sense) Cheers, Nicholas Tan (talk) 04:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Query (Delhi Metro)[edit]

Is it better to incorporate a map of the system into a table of the routes or should they exist independently? Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) uses the former, and that is an FA. A discussion is underway here - please comment and clarify. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 13:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delhi Metro map[edit]

Yamuna Bank - Anand Vihar to open soon! If you update the map, could you also please insert RK Ashram Marg station (which seems to have inadvertently been missed out) between Jhandewalan and Rajiv Chowk on the Blue Line (per this, this and this)? Thanks in advance! Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've attempted a colour switch - can you please take a look? Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Talk:Korea_Train_Express#Recent_edits_-_is_there_a_problem Hello - there seems to be some minor edit to-ing and fro-ing on this article - Please discuss any issues with the articles current state on the talk page. I have already noted one problem there. (message left on more than one talk page)Shortfatlad (talk) 12:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your slander[edit]

I consider your comment left to the talk page of Gavinhudson (talk · contribs) is a malicious slander and WP:Harassment as well as inappropriate WP:CANVASS to degrade my edits and intention. The phase, "liberal dose of kimchi" is also considered "racist attack". There is no reason for you to do such inappropriate behavior repeatedly as opposed to your claim for WP:AGF. Please don't this, and focus on "contents", not ad hominem. If you repeat the inappropriate behavior, you will take the responsibility. FYI, please check on how the initiator of the thread has been doing these days and my long-term opponent. --Caspian blue 14:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ho hum.
First, you have absolutely no business deleting my comments from a third party's page. I suggest you apologize to Gavin and me.
Second, you have been banned from editing Korean topics in the past. Yes or no?
Third, WP:CANVASS is the practice of bringing in others, but Gavin is already involved.
Fourth, please read Grain of salt and It's a Joke, Son! before you cry "Racist!" again. Jpatokal (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Read WP:No personal attack and WP:Harassment as you have been engaged in. You should get the fact straight. I've never been topic-banned from editing Korean topics. So your bogus accusation shows well how your ill faith led you the reckless action. Moreover, the canvassing should be written neutrally about the ongoing discussion on the content not ad hominem and racist comment. So you've are proven wrong repeatedly. Your assuming good faith comment is also very hypercritical. If you do not care about improving the article, you can walk away from the article. Please don't ever think that harassing of me would do good for you.--Caspian blue 16:07, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You're still harassing me again with the bogus accusation. I've never been topic-banned from editing Korean topics, and you're spreading it with your malicious slander. This would be the last warning.--Caspian blue 16:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"I request a longer sanction or “topic-ban” to Korean related articles for him at this time. Caspian blue (d) 26 janvier 2009 à 01:17 (CET)"
"Request for topic ban Accepted, Caspian Blue and Sennen goroshi are restricted as described by the above topic ban for the duration of six months.--Tznkai (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)" [12]Reply[reply]
Since you do not realize how wrong you're doing, I have no reason to put up with the insults. You have been falsely accusing that I was banned from editing Korean subjects by WP:Canvassing the racist slander. Moreover, you have no reason to bully me with the past totally irrelevant to the topic in question.--Caspian blue 01:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ANI gave you a 6-month topic ban for Korea-related articles in January 2009. True or false? Jpatokal (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, what a Spanish Inquisition. I've never been topic-ban from Korea-related articles, so please re-read the ANI thread again and do not spread your bogus accusations to others for your ill agenda. If that were true, I would not obtain many DYKs from Korean subjects since Jan. 2009. You can ask Tzanaki (talk · contribs) about the ANI and don't forget to bring with the diff of your racist slur against me. --Caspian blue 02:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah! My apologies. Here's the exact wording: Caspian Blue is topicbanned from all articles relating to Japan, and all editing concerning Japan within other articles and projectspace, broadly construed, and Sennen goroshi was banned from Korea articles, in an attempt to keep you to away from each other. Jpatokal (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No apologies for harassing me with your bogus accusation and spreading it to Gavin? I also expect your deepest apologies for your blatant racist attack.--Caspian blue 02:53, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ANI notice[edit]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at WP:ANI#User:Jpatokal - racial slur and harassment regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic you, Jpatokal (talk · contribs)'s disruptive personal attacks that require administrators' attention. Thank you. --Caspian blue 04:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your gross personal attack[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg Please do not attack other editors, as you did here: Wikipedia talk:Banning policy‎. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Caspian blue 07:21, 17 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Colour discussion[edit]

I notice you have previously commented on the use of colour on Wikipedia talk:Using colours. You may be interested in commenting at this discussion. (talk) 17:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

quick question[edit]

Hi! I hope you don't mind a question...if you're busy please do not feel obligated to reply. In your experience, do you find Bahasa Melayu and Bahasa Indonesia very similar? Thanks a ton!--达伟 (talk) 23:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Similar, yes, very similar, no. Given their shared origins, they're surprisingly divergent in pronunciation and vocabulary. Jpatokal (talk) 04:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Hakone-fuji-jpatokal.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Hakone-fuji-jpatokal.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. FASTILYsock(TALK) 07:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Looks like someone undid the redirects and started work on that article. You may want to watch list the old article. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:17, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Jpatokal,

I'm growing increasingly concerned about the actions of User:Cenwin88lee. Despite my repeated pleas, he continues to remove well-sourced content from articles without giving a good reason, often replacing it with irrelevant, unsourced information that appears to be OR.

In addition, I just noticed that he made a personal attack against you on Talk:Culture of Singapore, then laterblanked the talk page, including your comments, with no edit summary.

Here are just a handful of the edits that are causing me concern:

I know I've seen you around Wikipedia (and Wikitravel?) before, so I thought I'd solicit your advice. What do you think should be done in this situation? This has been going on for several weeks now and he continues despite my (and others'!) warnings and pleas. Thanks! --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're doing a good job and others are cleaning up after him, but use the formal templates from WP:VAN and escalate in the forums there if he keeps it up. Jpatokal (talk) 06:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! FYI (you're mentioned several times here): User_talk:Dave1185#Please_help_with_moderating_the_.22Singapore_English.22.2C_.22Singapore.22_and_.22culture_of_Singapore.22_wiki. --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 17:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Parribacus japonicus[edit]

Hi, Jpatokal,

Would you be able to find a reference for the Japanese name and etymology at Parribacus japonicus? My knowledge of Japanese is nil. --Stemonitis (talk) 07:45, 12 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Jpatokal,

It has come to my attention that Cenwin88lee has decided to revert your and my edits to articles unrelated to Singapore and which he otherwise seems to have no interest in, other than that we have edited them. See [16]. I was thinking of making a post on WP:AN/I but I'm not sure that's the right place. What would you recommend? --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 20:33, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I started an RfC. Wasn't sure what else to do. Not sure I did it right - although I've been on WP for half my life, I've never started an RfC myself. Your input, in any form, would be much appreciated: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Cenwin88lee --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 21:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your remark re: "mangling references"[edit]

The so-called mangled references work perfectly well and are in accordance with MOS. In addition, AWB suggests renaming in the case of multiple identical links and so I consider it good practice. LilHelpa (talk) 12:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I do not know where you are pulling this from, but WP:MOS-JA was never modified after the souru/sōru discussions to say that if a word is written in katakana and uses the オウ sound combination, it is to be written as ou in revised Hepburn, particularly because it will be impossible to determine when the phoneme is not supposed to be the long O sound which it is most often (Seoul and Soul being homonyms in Japanese does not exclude soul and sole as homophones).

Also the Ryukyuan languages don't have a standardized romanization method. The island is ウチナー and it's written universally as Uchinaa, because for the most part the Ryukyuan languages are voicing/vowel switches from standard Japanese (O's become U's, K's become G's, the W goes away).—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(Japan-related_articles)#Other_languages Jpatokal (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see now. You were mistaken in that I believed that ドウモイ is dōmoi in Ryukyuan when I constantly referred to that being the Hepburn romanization schema if that word existed in Japanese. Also {{disputed}} is for articles, and you are currently the only one who has an issue with this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Picture of the Week[edit]

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Elekhh (talk) 06:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:LTA Future MRT System Map.jpg[edit]

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Chhattarpur station[edit]

Hello, I have recently created the Chhattarpur station article and wanted to know if the spelling of Chhattarpur is with tt or just t. The news articles use both the spellings, the DMRC website uses tt but the the Chhattarpur temple uses single t. I am quite confused as to what is to be used. Thank You.-- WorLD8115 (TalK) 16:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

3RR & Tag team[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

You are likely violate wikiepdai guideline.

Is it your only revert reason?[17]

Your behavior and bad faith / keep reverting edits are not acceptable.

Revert only when necessary

Don't revert due to "no consensus"

Wikipedia:Tag team Tag teaming (sometimes also called a "Travelling Circus") is a controversial[1] form of meatpuppetry in which editors coordinate their actions to circumvent the normal process of consensus. As with meatpuppetry, editors may be accused of coordinating their actions to sidestep policies and guidelines (such as 3RR and NPOV).

Ssyublyn (talk) 23:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You exactly reverted its page 3 times without single reason. (technically violate the three-revert rule)

  1. 22:13, 20 September 2010 (edit summary: "rv, most of those incidents concern the KTX system as a whole (tunnels, trackbed etc)")
  2. 08:26, 21 September 2010 (edit summary: "Undid revision 386020842 by Ssyublyn (talk)")
  3. 22:23, 23 September 2010 (edit summary: "rv per Talk:Korea Train Express")

Ssyublyn (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The reverts were four days apart, and I have explained my reasoning in detail on Talk:Korea Train Express. If you are going to call User:Rontombontom a meat puppet, please do so on his talk page. Jpatokal (talk) 08:32, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your only and last reason of revert "...The Shinkansen's biggest incident to date was jumping the tracks during an earthquake. Are you saying it should not be listed either?..."[[18]] Do you think your comment have valid reason to revert / or whole change? I already provide enough sources / evidences / full exaplain why My version stand on valid edit with My good faith edit. But you keep reverting by your own silly/ short/ stupid reason. Do you really have right mind to Good faith edit at here? Sorry, but you have no valide reason proved. If you are really good faith and construtive editor. First, you should discuss fully, accept counterpart, You should change article bit by bit. Bit you did nothing about this.Ssyublyn (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I guess think You can make me as 3RR vio by Tag teaming with Him. Ssyublyn (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I warning you. You exactly revertyed its page 4 times.

  1. 22:13, 20 September 2010 (edit summary: "rv, most of those incidents concern the KTX system as a whole (tunnels, trackbed etc)")
  2. 08:26, 21 September 2010 (edit summary: "Undid revision 386020842 by Ssyublyn (talk)")
  3. 22:23, 23 September 2010 (edit summary: "rv per Talk:Korea Train Express")
  4. 13:31, 25 September 2010 (edit summary: "rv various copyright violations and, once again, series of tendentious edits that has found zero support on the Talk page")

Massive blanking. deleted all sourced materials. You just simply deleted all my edits with very tiny part reason.

You simply missusing Copyright. [19] If you think it was copyvio, you should point out which, and You have to correct its part only. Ssyublyn (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Reverting

...if only part of an edit is problematic then consider modifying only that part instead of reverting the whole edit...

Ssyublyn (talk) 05:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC

User:Ssyublyn has copied a number of promotional articles word for word, eg almost all of this edit is quoted wholesale from [25] and [26]. The articles are clearly marked "Copyright 2010 Korea Railroad Research Institute, All Rights Reserved" and thus cannot be used on Wikipedia. Jpatokal (talk) 13:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

  1. you removed all of my edits by part of your made up reason. Vandalism.
  2. There is not exactly copyvio at that edit. Are you Copyright holder?
  3. According to your claim, The whol incident section should be romved. The whole incidents section sourced from newspaper. its copyring belong to newspaper companies. Ssyublyn (talk) 05:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I don't know what page you were reading, but there is no consensus for your edit to the manual of style. Particularly because your edit does not reflect the original wording of the guideline.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: FMSR[edit]

While I applaud your decision to publish obscure but historically significant material, the article I was working on is far from finished, which is why I restrained from moving it to the mainspace (compare with drafts of the Johore Wooden Railway and Muar State Railway, which I considered nearly ready for publishing, but felt that it needed a few more solid sources so that they could be listed on DYKs). And since I've very much inactive, there is very little chance that any Malaysian will pick up where I left off, seeing how they're generally intellectually deficient and incapable of researching history that isn't sanctioned by the government.

Call me cynical, but having worked on Wikipedia for years and continued reading it after my inactivity, I seriously doubt anything related to that country will ever be as comprehensive as that little dot down south. Not even politics. - Two hundred percent (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]