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Comment on draft

Hey! I saw your comment on the draft and you are correct that filming had begun and been completed. I must've missed it when looking through the article. Sorry about that! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

No problem. I've accepted the draft now. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 14:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


Sorry about reverting your edit on Toast (food); it was a misclick. My mouse died yesterday so I'm having to use trackpad which means I'm sometimes hitting the wrong button! Schminnte (talk contribs) 15:03, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

The redirect Black Christmas (Disambiguation) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 1 § Black Christmas (Disambiguation) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 07:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Akhil Sam vijay

hi what kind of articles shoud be cite ? Akhilsamvijay (talk) 21:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Akhilsamvijay: you need reliable sources showing significant coverage of the subject. That means each source should have several paragraphs at a minimum on the subject. Of the reliable sources currently in the draft (The Hindu and The Times of India) neither even mention the subject. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation project to improve PageTriage

Hi, as an active New Page Patroller, I wanted to make sure you were aware of an upcoming Wikimedia Foundation project to improve the PageTriage extension. We recently published results of user interviews, and have some findings that we would value patrollers' opinions on. If you haven't yet, please consider adding the project page to your watchlist to stay up to date with our progress! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Another one for the collection. I think I see you just about everywhere, tirelessly reverting changes and ensuring the quality of Wikipedia. You deserve this beautiful rotating star. Bar Harel (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Passive aggressive message

I'm really curious if that passive aggressive message you left me is some kind of default message send by wikipedia. I think that no one is editing articles by accident, especially all those edits that wikipedia doesn't like and censors. (talk) 00:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

You must adhere to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, and not insert your own opinion into articles. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 00:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
But it's not exactly a neutral point view, it's the point of view of the Western Hegemony. In fact it's so biased that often documents from state department and cia are used as reliable sources. (talk) 11:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Your views aren't really relevant. If you want to make a change, find reliable sources and make that change. And anyway, the claim that "Because it took place in the West, it's called revision instead of censorship." does not belong in that article, even if sourced. — Nythar (💬-❄️) 11:35, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

LGBT history

Regarding my revert on LGBT history, I tried to revert vandalism but accidentally reverted it to another version which contained vandalism. Next time I'll be more careful when reverting vandalism. Sorry for that. Shadow of the Starlit Sky (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@Shadow of the Starlit Sky: no problem, I do that sometimes too! (Welcome to Wikipedia, by the way!) — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! I mean, I'd never be homophobic and call LGBT people "mentally ill people". Shadow of the Starlit Sky (talk) 15:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)


You just reverted an edit far more quickly than I was able to. How were you able to do that? ComplexApe (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@ComplexApe: I use the WP:AntiVandal tool I created, which makes reverting and warning users much more efficient. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:43, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
How do other users use that tool? Or is it just yours to use? ComplexApe (talk) 22:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
@ComplexApe: any user with the rollback permission is allowed to use it. You can make a request for rollback at WP:PERM/R, though administrators typically look for at least 200 mainspace edits before granting the right -- right now, you have just over 100. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I believe I actually am showing around 277 edits produced in total. Is that because some are on talk pages as warnings issued for vandalism behavior? Thus not counting towards this number that you are referring to? Is earning this rollback permission the only way to use this WP:AntiVandal tool? ComplexApe (talk) 22:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
@ComplexApe: you can see a breakdown of your edits at Xtools. "mainspace" refers to actual edits to articles, and doesn't count edits to user talk pages. Right now, having the rollback permission is necessary to use the tool. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:54, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for that information. I will see about applying for that permission called rollback then when I have the requisite number of main space edits. I enjoy reverting vandalism, and have been aided in my effort by @Illusion Flame:. ComplexApe (talk) 22:57, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I have been summoned! Funny, I also had the same question when I was a very early beginner. I now have over 1,400 edits. I might apply for Rollback to use AntiVandal soon too. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:13, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
@Illusion Flame:, it seems like that would make sense for you as well. I did not realize that you only had made around 1,400 edits though too. I got the sense that you had been around for a really long time and had made tens of thousands of edits. Also, now I noticed some flame in your signature as well as italics. How does one change signature like that? ComplexApe (talk) 23:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
No, I have only been around for a few weeks, but I learned a lot from the Teahouse hosts and just reading policies. The tool twinkle is also very helpful. Go to your settings to change your signature. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
I look forward to being able to try that tool first too. ComplexApe (talk) 23:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Whoa. I shouldn’t even bother reverting vandalism while Ingenuity is going. I cannot for the life of me get even a single revert in. I will need to try another time. Good going though Ingenuity! Does not matter who gets it, and I am glad that Wikipedia has you at its service. ComplexApe (talk) 03:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Vandal and the whitelist

If a user is included on the whitelist does that bypass the need for rollback permissions? I assume yes because from the looks of it it seems to be just a revert and not actually using rollback but I would just like to know cause I thought it was interesting that there is the whitelist. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 14:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@SkyWolf369: yes, if a user doesn't have rollback permissions, it uses manual reverting instead. I prefer to have users apply for rollback instead of adding them to the whitelist, however. I added the whitelist primarily so my alternate account, which doesn't have rollback, can use the script. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity Ah ok. Since im back on wikipedia more now I might be interested in helping with AntiVandal like I was going to before if you are still alright with it. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 15:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@SkyWolf369: feel free! If you'd like something to work on, there are some issues on Github. You can submit a pull request to the repository, and I can review your changes. If you have any questions, you can ask either here or on Discord. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity Real quick I was wondering if you can take a look at my userpage. Something with the divs makes it so it has the scroll bar things and I didnt know if you could fix that. Im better at JavaScript then working with CSS and styling. Thanks! SkyTheWolf (Talk) 15:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I'll take a look at it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Assuming you mean the bottom scroll bar, it's because the divs allow it to reach a width wider than the default page width. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
How would I constrain it so it didnt allow it to reach the wider width? SkyTheWolf (Talk) 15:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
It's the tables holding your userboxes that's causing that -- you'll need to put fewer userboxes in each row, or just not use a table. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 15:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
I would recommend only going to 4 userboxes per row or even 3. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
You fixed it. And it also looks much neater and more even.Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity How would I test my edits to the code? SkyTheWolf (Talk) 17:46, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@SkyWolf369 you can create your own version of the script (for example, at User:SkyWolf369/AntiVandal.js), and then in your common.js import your version instead. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 18:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
But it will stil run yours because it is like that in the code so would I need to make a User:SkyWolf369/AntiVandal/run and then change the code to that? SkyTheWolf (Talk) 18:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
No, you don't need to do that. All you need to do is:
  1. copy the code from User:Ingenuity/AntiVandal.js to User:SkyWolf369/AntiVandal.js
  2. in your common.js, change User:Ingenuity/AntiVandal.js to User:SkyWolf369/AntiVandal.js
  3. you can then make whatever changes you want to User:SkyWolf369/AntiVandal.js
— Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 18:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity But it wants to run yours when I click on Anti-Vandal. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 19:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Hello Ingenuity! I would really like to use the tool Antivandal. I have a lot of vandalism reverting edits and am a Pending changes reviewer, but my account is still too new for rollback. I am asking if you are willing to make an exception and add me to the whitelist so I can use AntiVandal with just the regular undo. If this is not an option is it possible for me to just copy the code like above and add myself to my own whitelist? I am basically just asking if there is anyway I can use your amazing tool! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 21:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Illusion Flame: you have a good track record, so I've added you to the script's whitelist. You should be able to use it now. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:25, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 22:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity The most recent edit on my version of the script seems to have fixed one of the issues on the github however I cannot do a PR currently as I am not logged into my personal account. But it fixed the cutoff of text when scrolling which is issue number 3 on the github. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 17:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Possible issue with anti-vandal

So recently I've been experiencing FOUC issues. So I decided to disable my scripts one-by-one and I noticed that when I disabled anti-vandal the issues stopped happening. Qwerfjkl said they were also having these issues so I checked their common.js and noticed that they also have anti-vandal installed. Might wanna look into what's causing this. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: I've made a small change to the script, which (I hope) is the cause of the bug. Is the flashing still happening for you now? — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I'll take a look. I just disabled it for now while you fix the bug so I Don't go crazy. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Looks like that fixed it! Thanks! Mind telling me what was causing the bug? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
@Blaze Wolf: looks like this code was causing it. That code created a new CSS stylesheet that added an icon in Vector 2022, which was requested here. For some reason, the bug only appears to happen on Chrome. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm actually going to correct you on that and say that the bug only appears to happen on Chromium-based browsers. I use Opera GX which is based on Chromium and I experienced the bug (though to a much lesser extent than on Chrome). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
I have a feeling the reason it was happening was that it was creating a stylesheet, however something was going awry and when Wikipedia tried to load it in, it would end up conflicting with the default stylesheet and so it would freak out and revert to the default which would be none. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:00, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Writing to innerHTML modifies the underlying Document Object Model, and that causes the browser to stop loading the other resources required for the page, because since the document is being re-written, they might not be needed anymore. The document has to be reparsed after the modification is complete and then the browser can start loading the required resources again. isaacl (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Blaze.exe has stopped working
Mind explaining that in layman's terms? No offense to you, I'm just a bit confused by it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:47, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
If you look at the code diff, you can see that "innerHTML" is being modified. The HTML for the page is being re-written. The browser stops trying to load other files that are referenced in the page that are needed to display the page, such as images, stylesheets, and Javascript files, because by the time the page is re-written, all of those references could have been removed. Once the re-writing is done, the browser can start over again. isaacl (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Ah ok, that makes sense. I wonder if telling it to either load that before the page starts being loaded or after would fix the issue. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
You may have seen this comment of mine that discussed options for using Javascript to modify a page. The usual approach is to schedule your Javascript code to run after page loading and rendering has been completed. (The browser has to load the page before it knows what Javascript to run, so it can't really run before, and in any case, before page load, there is no page for the Javascript code to affect.) This can result in a shifting layout when the code runs. I understand there are ways for gadgets/user scripts to define how much space their UI elements will use in order avoid shifting (instead, elements would appear in the reserved space once the Javascript code runs), but I don't know the details. isaacl (talk) 19:22, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 March 2023

Proposal for Anti-Vandal

I was wondering about if we could make a sort of colorblind mode or add the ability to allow users to change the colors of certain things so they can see things better. This proposal stems from me being partly colorblind and wondering if it would affect other users who are colorblind. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 17:15, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I think this would be a good idea and would improve accessibility.
Out of curiosity, what is your colorblindness SkyWolf369?Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Red-Green SkyTheWolf (Talk) 17:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Maybe instead of having a colorblind mode, some of the things that are just colors could make use of symbols as well? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
I've added this to the #Features to add section. I'll try to add this once I have the time. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 17:39, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
@Ingenuity I can work on it if you would like. SkyTheWolf (Talk) 17:42, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
@SkyWolf369: feel free! If you'd like, you can submit a pull request on Github once you've made the changes. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:02, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Maybe I should see if using W3Schools to learn Javascript similar to how I learned HTML and CSS would help me learn it... ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for this annoying message

Sorry that this is so pedantic... maybe you can receive it as a "heads-up": As the nominator, you were not "allowed" to close that userbox MfD yourself, under the deletion guidelines (more of that) and instructions, because there were delete !votes (... that possibly would have changed in light of your withdrawal, but they still hadn't): closing as keep when there are delete !votes undercuts those !votes -- speedy keep due to nominator withdrawal is only absolutely fine when you nominate someting for deletion, get essentially zero support, realize that it's hopeless or that it was just the wrong idea to nominate, and then withdraw to save a bit of community time. This was 2-2 so, on the face of it, it was a legitimately contentious discussion. No one has complained and almost certainly no one will, and I don't think that the close should be undone (don't take this as a complaint), but I just wanted to let you know that we can always withdraw (such as by posting a comment to that effect), but we can't always close because we withdrew. Sooo... That's it! Kind regards—Alalch E. 19:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me, @Alalch E. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User likes Moops

I very much appreciate your withdrawing nomination for this template. While I don't think anyone's going to complain, technically you should have withdrawn your nom and let somebody else close it, since several editors in the process had agreed with your nom. I have been fighting recently for the rights of retired users to not have their historic user subpages deleted. Your nomination allowed me to turn this situation into a good example of why we shouldn't immediately delete user thought merely because opinions may become harder to justify over time. I believe I explained it better on my usertalk. Thank you for nominating this template. I think you've helped move my "crusade" forward (such as it is). BusterD (talk) 19:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I started writing about this 20 minutes ago, got interrupted, finished the message, and didn't see that you had posted about the same thing... —Alalch E. 19:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your message, BusterD. I initially nominated it thinking along the lines of having a template that says "[insert sock] is awesome" doesn't seem like a great idea, but you're right: it's not my job to police what users should or shouldn't have on their user page. (as for the close, if anyone complains I'm happy to revert.) — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:57, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Please consider paying more attention to MfD processes. We could always use fresh eyes. BusterD (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'm new to editing wikipedia, please how do I improve the reliability of my page Wellington Victory (talk) 19:44, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wellington Victory: the draft needs references to reliable sources, for example significant coverage in well-known newspapers. If no reliable sources exist, the subject is not notable enough for an article. Also, please do not resubmit without significantly improving the page, as it is likely to be declined again and wastes reviewers' time. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:55, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Ok, thank you Wellington Victory (talk) 20:19, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
I've corrected that, but also how to make it independent of the subject Wellington Victory (talk) 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Secondary and in-depth Wellington Victory (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


Isabelle Belato is currently closing, so you might want to contact them if you still want to help. Also, you can add #top to your talk link in your signature to avoid it being bolded on this page. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu thanks for letting me know. Also, thanks for the signature tip -- I've been wondering why everyone else's sigs weren't bold on their talk pages! — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Bob Robert Santos (March 14) RESPONSE

Hello I responded to my draft article & was wondering if you can help with getting this reviewed & or send me in the right direction to help get approved please. Thanks alot take care

Hello, I am not being paid for this article & do not expect any compensation for this article, all statements in article are facts as stated. I do not work for any client. Please advise if any additional information is needed and please advise any specific changes needed to publish page to wikipedia Santos Boxing (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Santos Boxing: as I stated in the review, you need to add inline citations. If you need help doing this, you can read referencing for beginners. The draft also needs to be less promotional. Do you have a conflict of interest with this subject? I would assume so, given your username. If you do, you need to declare your conflict of interest on your user page. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:21, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
I used the username as it would be easy to remember for writing about the subject, How would I state on my user page if there is no conflict of interest. Thank you much Santos Boxing (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
If you don't have a conflict of interest, you don't need to declare anything. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your help Santos Boxing (talk) 00:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

AntiVandal Logo??

Hello @Ingenuity,

I saw you made a userbox for the tool antivandal. I thought it looked a little bland, and as I am an amateur graphic designer, I thought I could make a logo. You can see it here:

If you like it, feel free to use it anywhere you want. If you hate it, let me know and I can tag it for deletion. No worries either way! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 14:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

That looks great, @Illusion Flame! I've added it to WP:AntiVandal. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:25, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
I second this! While it's a bit complicated it's still recognizable enough from afar and the angreh stikmin is fun! My biggest issue is that the wordmark colors look too similar to WP:RedWarn, which theoretically shouldn't be much of a problem as it is getting replaced by the WP:UV rewrite soon, but then again that's soon™ since feb 2022 Aaron Liu (talk) 22:55, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, @Aaron Liu. I didn’t even realize the similarities to redwarn! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:48, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 March 2023

Delete the Draft : Gulmohar (2023 TV Series)

The article for Gulmohar (2023 Film) already exists, the draft Draft:Gulmohar (2023 TV Series) needs to be deleted as it wrongly mentions it as a TV Series and an article for the already exists as mentioned earlier. Aniprk007 (talk) 07:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

@Aniprk007: I've redirected the draft to the article. It doesn't really need to be deleted. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 14:10, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

InMoment AfC

Hi Ingenuity, I noticed you're an AFC reviewer and wanted to get your opinion on an AfC. I recently submitted an AfC for the company InMoment. Would you be open to reviewing the draft or providing feedback? Appreciate any help in advance.--Chefmikesf (talk) 23:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Chefmikesf. I typically don't review articles on request, sorry. From a quick glance, I don't see any references that meet WP:CORPDEPTH: most are interviews, press releases, etc. which don't really demonstrate notability. To increase chances of a quick review, I would suggest pointing out in a comment what you think the best WP:THREE sources are. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 14:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

It Had to Be You (2016 film)

Thanks for the comments. If you don't mind, after I make your suggested comments I'll ask you for another review. --Eliyahu S Talk 17:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Barnstars for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For fighting vandalism quicker than almost everybody. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The Recent Changes Barnstar
For looking at Recent Changes frequently. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The Bot Creator Barnstar
For the creation of IngenuityBot. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The Scripting Barnstar
For the creation of AntiVandal. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The da Vinci Barnstar
For the incredibly fast tool to fight vandalism: AntiVandal. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2023

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Please refrain from applying Template:Plant-stub to any articles going forward, as you did on Abutilon hulseanum. The plant stub category tree is quite deep, with Abutilon hulseanum being a member of Category:Malveae stubs, itself a member of Category:Malvoideae stubs, which is a member of Category:Malvaceae stubs, a member of Category:Malvales stubs, a member of Category:Rosid stubs, then Category:Eudicot stubs, then Category:Angiosperm stubs, and finally Category:Plant stubs. Please ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants for assistance. Abductive (reasoning) 02:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Abductive: thanks for letting me know. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 02:55, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
No prob, thanks for moving Abutilon hulseanum into mainspace so quickly. Abductive (reasoning) 03:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Vector 2022 Rollback Close Review

There is currently a close review on AN for the close you did on the Vector Rollback RFC. Soni (talk) 15:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

speciesbox for non-species taxa

What you were looking for on Aratus (genus) is {{Automatic taxobox}}. However, it relies on having a correct {{Taxonomy/Aratus}}. It was close, but I've updated it to be fully correct. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:04, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Comment on Davide Tarizzo's page

Hey, Many thanks for your insightful comments on my draft. Your feedback was incredibly helpful and gave me valuable insights that I wouldn't have otherwise considered.  I am happy to let you know that I have made revisions based on your comments and suggestions. I would love for you to take a look at the new version and let me know your thoughts.  Thank you again for your time and feedback. OdysseusOblomov (talk) 13:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Hope you like coffee, thanks for tagging that page for RD and for warning the editor, beat me to it :) Philipnelson99 (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 April 2023

A Barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for your tireless contributions towards fighting vandalism! 𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Question about Anti-Vandal

Hi, I have a question about AntiVandal script. Does it install a file or something on your computer itself or is it like Twinkle (a gadget)?

Thanks, Vamsi20 (talk) 16:08, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Vamsi20! It's like Twinkle, so you don't have to download anything to use it; follow WP:AntiVandal#Installation for instructions on how to add it to your common.js. (you do need the rollback permission to use it, however.) — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Oh alright, I requested rollback permission a few days ago, waiting to see if it gets accepted Vamsi20 (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I would also recommend using RedWarn or the beta rewrite of it, Ultraviolet (keep in mind UV is in beta so things might not work as intended) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:56, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Socratic Barnstar
For your eloquent, well-reasoned, and no-doubt incredibly stressful close at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rollback of Vector 2022. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 05:02, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I'm sure you're about to get a deluge of comments either supporting or arguing against your summary, but I wanted to show appreciation for the time you spent closing the Vector 2022 RfC. At more than 120,000 words it was no small feat. Sam Walton (talk) 11:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Looks like Isabelle Belato got hit by most of this. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:00, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

The Super Mario Bros. Movie

Could you review the Draft:The Super Mario Bros. Movie (soundtrack) (talk) 22:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Accepted. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 23:17, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

The Hangover

Could you review the Draft:The Hangover (soundtrack) (talk) 18:39, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Chandler Greenholt

Thanks for reverting threat by this Chandler person . He was threatening me with vandalism for a minor edit! I have additional permissions so can over ride his input. I see he has been blocked on several ocassions so far. Real nuisance and one reason why i tend to avoid some topics. Dorkinglad (talk) 16:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I would like to join in. Thanks for reverting Chandler, and the vandalism notification. Cessaune [talk] 16:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm just saying

More edits and more tenure than I had. Plenty of work at AfC, wrote an anti-vandal script. Whenever you're comfortable with your experience, I think you'd have an easier time than I did. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, and some GAs... you make me look like a chump. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Also, that AV script is good stuff. I understand it's built for speed, but it would be nice to have a quick way to choose different warning templates with matching edit summaries. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Please send me an email if you want some further guidance and potentially a nom. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 19:02, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


I looked further into you, and fell in love with your profligate creation of talkpages for WikiProjects. I think you're a shoo-in, and would like to have my first admin nomination with you. Whenever (and I sure hope it's a "when"ever) you decide to take the plunge, e-mail me (and whomever else you decide) so I can write up the statement and help you with your three questions. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Another Barnstar!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
You are doing great work, thanks! LizardJr8 (talk) 00:01, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Joan Finney Article

I noticed on my WatchList that you recently reverted vandalism to the Joan Finney article by User talk:2604:CA00:1C8:99B3:0:0:662:1A25, and I was wondering if you were recommending any further action should be taken to either block this user or semi-protect the article because other recent acts of vandalism to the Joan Finney article by that user have also been reverted. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or comments regarding this matter. TommyBoy (talk) 00:06, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

@TommyBoy: I don't think this article needs to be protected; pages are only protected when there is persistent vandalism from multiple users, which doesn't appear to be the case. The IP doesn't really need to be blocked either -- they haven't edited in over six hours. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 00:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for following up with me. I will keep an eye on the article, and if anything else comes up in the near future, I will let you know.--TommyBoy (talk) 01:26, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia say you left me a message?

I can't actually find a message, and don't know why you would have left one. I'm quite new to this. Can you explain? Thank you! It also says Chandler Greenholt left me a message and threatened to ban me. Truthquest (talk) 20:14, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey @Truthquest! The user who left you that warning was a vandal (who is now blocked). It said I left you a message because I removed their post from your talk page. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:18, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. Truthquest (talk) 16:15, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive

New Page Patrol | May 2023 Backlog Drive
  • On 1 May, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


Hi Ingenuity, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Schwede66 18:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 April 2023

Women in Red May 2023

Women in Red May 2023, Vol 9, Iss 5, Nos 251, 252, 267, 268, 269, 270

Online events:

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--Lajmmoore (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC) via MassMessaging

An award for you!

CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
Thanks for all of your hard work! 𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 22:20, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft reviews

Could you review the drafts My Week with Marilyn (soundtrack), Cowboys & Aliens (soundtrack), Real Steel (soundtrack), Prom (soundtrack), The Descendants (soundtrack) and Jane Eyre (soundtrack) (talk) 14:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Draft re-review (Eleri Ward)

Hi, I was wondering if you could take another look at Draft:Eleri Ward since you gave me feedback on it before? Particularly the sourcing; I replaced most of the BWW sources per your feedback, but I kept two of them (an interview with the subject and an album review) as those seem to be original writing rather than the press release reprints mentioned at WP:RSP, and if nothing else I think they work as primary sources. Invisiboy42293 (talk) 20:35, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Invisiboy42293 great work on this! I've accepted it now. One thing I would suggest is that the list in the "Artistry and recognition" could be shortened and/or turned into prose, rather than a list. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:55, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I'm actually going to revert it back to draft for a bit? I was in the middle of turning that section into prose when I got your notification lol. The list was just intended as notes, not a finished thing. Invisiboy42293 (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
@Invisiboy42293 that's fine -- feel free to move it back to mainspace yourself when you think it's ready. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 21:25, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
Sure thing, and thank you! Invisiboy42293 (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

A kitten for you!


Lados75 (talk) 12:16, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, @Lados75! — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 12:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
thank you ^^ Lados75 (talk) 17:29, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 8 May 2023

AntiVandal logo and RFA

Hi @Ingenuity, I just wanted to let you know that I updated the colors of the AntiVandal logo so they weren’t as similar to RedWarn. If you get a second, see if you like them and I can adjust if necessary. Good luck on your RFA too! We are all rooting for you. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 22:45, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Illusion Flame! The logo looks great as well - I think the blue looks better than red. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:59, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Glad you like it! I look forward to seeing you around if and when your RFA passes. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, good luck! (You don't even need it, it's pretty obvious this is going to pass) It's a shame IP editors can't vote in RFA's, though I do get why. (talk) 10:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, but people could just use multiple IPs to vote, and then it wouldn’t be fair. You can leave a general comment through saying that you would support if you could. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 11:06, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Over the years a few IP editors have placed bolded supports in the general comments, which do everything but add to the tally, and no one complained. For my own part, if I happen to be active I may occasionally drop in to counter sincere opposes that aren't complete rubbish. For that purpose the general comments section is actually better since its less likely to evolve into an unproductive back and forth. (talk) 03:36, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

There is a mop reserved in your name

You are a remarkable editor in many ways. You would be a good administrator, in my opinion, and appear to be well qualified. You personify an administrator without tools and have gained my support already!

From developing your AntiVandal tool, reviewing AFC drafts, and writing articles, all your work is outstanding. Please consider starting an RFA!

If you need a nomination (or co-nom), email me. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 17:55, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, a nom by a 2 month old former "long term Ip editor" will at least give the WO folk a giggle :) SN54129 20:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
If you don’t mind me asking @Serial Number 54129, who are “WO folk”? - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 20:30, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
@Illusion Flame: I think SN54129 is referring to Wikipediocracy. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 12:45, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
  • I received the notification for this and thought: "Ingenuity's not an administrator?" You certainly should be. Compassionate727 (T·C) 00:34, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Ingenuity, you've certainly improved significantly since we first met in January 2022! Your AntiVandal tool is stellar, NPP and AfC! Looking forward to your admin nomination! Tails Wx 15:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
    I agree, and would definitely be a supporter. Very well rounded candidate: content creation for those who want it, excellent anti-vandal work (in both senses) and new page reviewing. Plus, anyone who regularly beats me to reverting vandalism has my respect :) Schminnte (talk contribs) 16:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


I don't want to break form, but with less than 24 hours to go and near certainty of your RfA passing I'd like to extend my congratulations! Make sure you use these tools wisely... – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:02, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

I also came to the talk page to congratulate you Ingenuity! I'm thrilled to see your RfA went so smoothly and I'm confident that you'll wield the mop productively and responsibly. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations, Ingenuity! Where's the baton? Anyway, good luck, and I'm also confident that you'll be responsible with your new tools! Tails Wx 14:57, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


I would like to extend my heartfelt congratulations to you on being the individual who possesses an abundance of community support. It is truly commendable to witness your unwavering commitment to fostering strong bonds within the community and providing invaluable assistance to those in need. DIVINE 15:35, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

+1 and congrats! – Nythar (💬-🍀) 16:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Feel free to drop me a line if you need any help, you deserve it. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 16:26, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone! There are so many new buttons.... — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:33, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Gotta push 'em all! XD - UtherSRG (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congrats. Glad you decided to go ahead with the RFA. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Spicy, get the baton! Tails Wx 16:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congrats and Best Wishes.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations on a (reletively) drama free FfA. Maybe you could make that website now... ([FBDB] now that you're an admin!) Schminnte (talk contribs) 17:35, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations! Time to get the mop dirty... Complex/Rational 20:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Congratulations, and thanks for volunteering! Perfect4th (talk) 04:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, here's your mop

Ingenuity's mop

Use it well. When you've cleaned out the toilets, you can come to the admin room for a cup of tea and biscuits. SilkTork (talk) 16:21, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Congrats! That's a better mop than I got... - UtherSRG (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Definitely smells better than the one they handed me, I had to take the mophead off and boil it in oxiclean. Valereee (talk) 17:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Welcome to the corps. — xaosflux Talk 18:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


Welcome to the team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:31, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, looking at the history of this IP's edits and the block log, would you consider increasing the duration to 1 week? Just as a note of observation from other admins' activities, if the blocks are recent enough (generally within a few months of one another), admins will typically move up the scale in block durations. Congrats on the adminship, BTW! (talk) 16:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Done -- I thought I selected one week, but apparently not. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:58, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


Hi Ingenuity, I would bring a T-shirt but they are out of stock from my supplier. Someone else might have a better supplier, but you can order one from me and I'll bring it when it's back in stock. Keep developing AntiVandal as it's the main tool I use as I edit from mobile a lot. Yours, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


Congrats on the admin my friend! *looks down at the categories* I suppose the "Administrators without tools" category isn't exactly correct anymore now is it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Congrtulations on your new T-shirt

Newly minted administrator
Congratulations on your overwhelmingly successful RFA. It seems you have not received a certain item of apparel yet, so here it is. Whpq (talk) 19:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


I'm wondering how I missed your RfA. Congrats and my wishes for you :) — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 19:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
I was really impressed by your anti-vandal work earlier today while I was reverting vandalism. You are a great new administrator, thank you very much! ChrisWx (talk - contribs) 00:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For helping fight all the vandalism on this site! -ASHEIOU (THEY/THEM • TALK) 01:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed that your scripts use function, let, and const in the topmost scope. This is inadvisable because, unlike gadgets, user scripts run in the global scope. I suggest wrapping entire scripts in immediately invoked functions.

I also added the rest of your scripts listed on your user page to WP:User scripts/List. If you don't intend them to be widely imported, feel free to remove them. Thanks. Nardog (talk) 08:58, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

VRT Request

Hello @Ingenuity. If you get a chance, could you review Draft:Sonita Gale. A user in the Info-En queue requested it.

Thanks, - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 10:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

User blocked same minute

User talk:2A04:2414:103:BE80:CD49:1235:DF00:360B was blocked at the same time and mine took over it seems, so I cleaned up the messages. Cheers! -- Alexf(talk) 11:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)