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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)[edit]

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Sorry to bother[edit]

I started work on sourcing the IWD article a little better and i am struggling to come up with how to actually source that May Day is celebrated in places like Ethiopia or Somalia. Would something like lonelyplanet do? Not really confident it would though, hence me asking. I used info from Air France, a german Telecom company and RTE (electricity company) to source the same info in other places, which i assume is acceptable? Otherwise i am just not sure what to look for to verify it, given i don't speak amharic lol. Any thoughts, pointers or hints on the matter would be appreciated. (talk) 20:48, 7 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Never mind! Who would have thought that the federation of Somali trade unions has an english language website hahaha. And i found something for Ethiopia as well after an idea for new search terms. So... sorry to have bothered you. (talk) 22:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Renaming a title (of "U.S. intervention in Venezuela")[edit]

Best greetings; I've created an article by the name of "U.S. intervention in Venezuela", but a user renamed its title to "Foreign involvement during the Venezuelan presidential crisis". Actually, although it was mentioned in AFD ([1]) (concerning the disagreement of the rename), --but-- he renamed it without surveying the view of others. Afterwards, I'd undo its change (to return it to its first title), but seemingly I hadn't/haven't such option to undo that. Hence, I appreciate your help --to solve the discussion (to return its first name). Ali Ahwazi (talk) 17:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ali Ahwazi: Have you discussed this with Jamez42? At the very least, this should be something brought up on the article talk page, perhaps involving people who were in the AFD, rather than pinging someone completely uninvolved. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 17:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Need help[edit]

Hi, Howcheng. I need this portrait in original size, could you sent me the deleted version to pamyat at thanks. --Алый Король (talk) 01:40, 10 May 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019[edit]

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Discussion of link language wrapper templates (June 2019)[edit]

A discussion has started about wrapper templates of {{Link language}}. You may be interested in participating because you participated in a related previous discussion. E^pi*i batch (talk) 03:05, 10 June 2019 (UTC) (Retro is my main account.)Reply[reply]

Your comment plz[edit]

I was working on this article and found some POV issues, which I then raised at WP:ERROR. Some users are repeatedly removing the POV tag, despite the ongoing discussion. I tried to express my objection in details, but would rather seek a comment by an un-involved experienced user before restoring the twice-removed POV tag. Can I have your input please? --Mhhossein talk 13:06, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hey, Howcheng. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
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Source of Manufacture section in the Cream Cheese article[edit]

Hello Howcheng, I was reading the Cream Cheese article recently and was left curious as to how exactly lowering the pH below the isoelectric point of the proteins would impact the coagulation. Being unable to find articles specifically on the subject and seeing that you were the first to add this kind of information to the page I was wondering if you had source or further readings on the subject. Thanks!

Mikidep (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mikidep: Sorry, I only got the information from a Wired magazine article myself. howcheng {chat} 21:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back![edit]

Hi, Howcheng. Welcome back and I hope you enjoyed your vacation! Just so you know, I am working on July 18 as I write this message. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Coffeeandcrumbs: Thanks, I've got 3 weeks' worth of notes to write, so that's very helpful. howcheng {chat} 21:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you don't mind I would like to do the notes for the three days I did. It would be great learning experience. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's great, it would certainly help to have some more hands doing these updates. howcheng {chat} 21:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Any concerns on 20 July? Any concerns at all? I am going to stay hands-off on 21 July and skip to 22 July, that is if you have no objections to me continue on. I am going to start doing two per day and get ahead of schedule like I believe you prefer. If you like what you have seen so far, I am happy to continue. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Coffeeandcrumbs: Sorry I didn't reply in time. You can keep going as long as you want. I did this every day for 8+ years so it's nice to not have to worry about it. Just let me know if you need me to step back in for any reason. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 15:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On this day[edit]

John William Finn was born July 24 according to his article, but July 23 according to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/July 23. Art LaPella (talk) 06:08, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

August 1[edit]

I proposed some changes to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 1, mostly because I wanted to see Herman Melville listed on his 200th birthday, and I just kept going. Please have a look and feel free to undo anything that's incorrect or which you don't think works. Jonathunder (talk) 23:00, 25 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 31 July 2019[edit]


Thank you for allow me to do this for the past few weeks but I think I would like to stop doing it soon or take breaks so I don't burn out. I will continue until August 15. I have learned what a great amount of work you have done for the past few years. If you ever need another Wiki-break please don't hesitate to ask. It was fun and very educational! Maybe we can do a schedule where we alternate every other month. You take August 16 to September 15. I take September 16 to October 15, and so on. Up to you. Cheers.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for allowing me to extend my OTD vacation for a few more weeks! howcheng {chat} 15:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's it for me. Be back to do this in September. August 1718 is the last one I updated. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 22:02, 15 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am going to keep going. Feel free to tag back in, if you feel like it. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 07:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Coffeeandcrumbs: I was actually going to restart today but then my computer got caught in Windows update hell (it took 2 hours!!), so I couldn't do anything during that time. howcheng {chat} 02:09, 18 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Already working on August 20. You can do the notes and start on August 21. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
BTW, with help from another user, I have created a QUARRY-based system that allows me to find GA and FA-level articles to use for born/died section. So I am going to keep adding more eligible BIOs as we go, even on days that I am not updating fully. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 02:32, 18 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Coffeeandcrumbs: Thanks for doing the births/deaths. That really saves me a lot of time. In fact, that was probably the section that took me the longest to do and thus was the biggest headache for me. If you are going to keep doing those, then I'm fine with doing the regular blurbs. Of course, if you want to jump in and do it, I'm not going to stop you either. :) howcheng {chat} 16:40, 30 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think we have struck a nice balance. I might throw some event blurbs into the eligible section now and then. Right now I am happy just doing the births/deaths. If I do any more it is going to be rescuing some ineligibles. I am also open to taking a couple of months a year to give you a break. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 18:16, 30 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I discovered Louis XVIII of France when searching for birth dates but I think it is a waste to use the article for born/died. There is an ineligible blurb at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/May 30 that you could use Louis XVIII article to rescue. Or another event blurb could be written. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:11, 1 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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OTD of September[edit]

I wonder if you present the probable problem with nominating these articles for OTD of September: one, the assassination of Mir Asadollah Madani for 11 September, second, the Battle of al-Harra for 26 August. Thanks!Saff V. (talk) 12:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(talk page stalker)@Saff V.: I have been doing the OTD section recently and I would probably not include Mir Asadollah Madani and Event of Mubahala because they low quality articles. Battle of al-Harra is a great addition. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Coffeeandcrumbs: Aha, I hope to be successful in doing the OTD section and Thanks for a response quickly, But could you explain to me exactly problems cause low quality. especially about Event of Mubahala?Saff V. (talk) 13:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Event of Mubahala is a not that bad but there are several issues tagged. Look for where it is tagged with "[Citation needed]", "[Which?]", and "[Who?]".
Mir Asadollah Madani is very short and give almost no detailts about imam's life and career. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I get it and will give it try to solve the issues. Thanks!Saff V. (talk) 13:40, 17 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Coffeeandcrumbs: Excuse me, but "I have been doing the OTD section recently"means that Howcheng will not be active in this section from now on.Am I right?Saff V. (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Saff V.: No, I'm still active. howcheng {chat} 16:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was removing mentioned issues of Event of Mubahala.Now is it ok to go for OTD of 26 August?Regards!Saff V. (talk) 16:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 7 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just an FYI, Howcheng: I took 1936 Naval Revolt off OTD for Sept.9th. It was pointed out on WP:ERRORS that the articles says this revolt took place on Sept.8th. I've swapped in 1493 Battle of Krbava Field to fill that spot on OTD for now. Hope this helps. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 16:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

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On this day[edit]

At the bottom of Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/November 6, Ri Ul-sol died on November 7 not 6, according to that article and its reference. Art LaPella (talk) 04:47, 5 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another On This Day[edit]

At the bottom of Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/November 7, Paul Sandby died November 9 not 7, according to that article. Art LaPella (talk) 01:17, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Art LaPella,  Fixed --- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I'm not sure if we should change the 1729 date, but for Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/November 24, the Alexander Suvorov article uses both 1729 and 1730 for his birth, several times each. Art LaPella (talk) 05:29, 23 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK I moved him to May 18 (death date). howcheng {chat} 06:50, 23 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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OTD question[edit]

Hi Howcheng - I saw you update the article history for German cruiser Admiral Graf Spee, which spurred me to go look at the OTD entry for the article (I hadn't noticed it was there yesterday) - anyway, the line needs to be corrected (it states the ship suffered "heavy damage" but that's not accurate) but I don't really want to spend the time necessary to navigate the labyrinthine maze of templates. I'm guessing you know your way around the OTD setup better than I do, so could you point me in the right direction? Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Parsecboy: It's Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/December 17. Please edit as necessary. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:58, 18 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I'll go fix it. Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I've moved this back. This is a proper name for a specific vase, not the others attributed to him. See WP:VAMOS also. Johnbod (talk) 18:20, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Johnbod: No problem. The only thing is, the article always refers to it as the "Euphronios krater", so that probably should be corrected. howcheng {chat} 18:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed - I'll look at that. Obviously it is "the krater" in running prose. Johnbod (talk) 18:23, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could I ask you to be more careful?[edit]

My last two consecutive article edits have been to clean up unfortunate typos from your edits. This and this. Think about that. I'm just looking at articles in my favorite sections DYK and OTD and I come across goofs twice consecutively by one editor? For that to happen, what rate of errors are you committing?

It is a pet peeve of mine that 'experienced' editors seem to not use "Show preview"? When I see "300December" and "desribes" I can only believe that is true, and perhaps due to too much hurry? Shenme (talk) 01:38, 17 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 27 January 2020[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2020[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
  • The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.

Technical news

  • Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
  • When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [2]


  • Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.


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Infobox photo discussion[edit]

Hi. Can you offer your opinion on which of two photos is preferable in this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:41, 24 February 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 1 March 2020[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2020[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

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  • Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
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  • Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.


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The difference between sex and gender.[edit]


It appears you do not understand the difference between sex (i.e male and female, a biological construct) and that of gender identity. Th Wiki is not about gender identity, it is about the male and female sex. Hence it is *sex and not gender. Male and female, this is where we get sex, heterosexual, sex-equality, sexism etc from. Gender has nothing to do with it and I made clear the two things should not be confused.

Best regards /Eric (talk) 13:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Arbitration case opened[edit]

In 2018, you offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has now accepted that request for arbitration, and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 23, 2020, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Jytdog/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

All content, links, and diffs from the original ARC and the latest ARC are being read into the evidence for this case.

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Non-free use of File:Pepsi targeted ad 1940s.jpg[edit]

Thank you for uploading File:Pepsi targeted ad 1940s.jpg. However, there is a concern that the use of the image on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. Details of this problem, and which specific criteria that the image may not meet, can be obtained by going to the image description page. If you feel that this image does meet those criteria, please place a note on the image description or talk page explaining why. Do not remove the {{di-fails NFCC}} tag itself.

An administrator will review this file within a few days, and having considered the opinions placed on the image page, may delete it in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion or remove the tag entirely. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Jonteemil (talk) 06:42, 13 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello again! I've highlighted a sentence which you violated so you know.Jonteemil (talk) 17:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You may not be aware of this, but I'm one the people who wrote NFCC#8, so I'm very familiar with how it works, although I must admit it has been many years since I have done enforcement of it. However, I agree that the article was used in too many places, so I've limited it to Pepsi and Edward F. Boyd, where it's the most relevant. howcheng {chat} 20:56, 13 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was not aware of that. Good that you limited its use. Cheers.Jonteemil (talk) 23:41, 16 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries[edit]

I see that you reverted 17 of my edits to "Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries" pages. I admit that in Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 27 I messed up when I dropped the y in livery. Other than that, I believe my changes are correct in that they removed bogus image options lint errors. My changes also improved the displayed captions. For example, Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 26, the right-most image caption improved from "border=yes" to "B&O Royal Blue". In other examples, I prevented bad line breaks. Your edit summary each time was "there's a reason for this". Kindly let me know the reason(s) that applied to the 17 reversions (other than, of course, misspelling "livery"). (I am glad to see that you did not revert my edit to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 14, where the lint error I fixed was fostered content.) Cheers ... —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Anomalocaris: Sorry, but I really don't care about lint errors. The point is not to make the gallery viewable for readers; it's to make it easier to update the events that are displayed. What you call "bogus image options" are actually parameters for the {{main page image}} template, which is used to display the image. This makes it possible to then just cut & paste the line into the template. If we were to use proper image gallery syntax, then that's just more work to prep the day's blurbs (see [3]). Thus, please leave those as-is. Thank you. howcheng {chat} 06:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What am I supposed to see in the "see" link?
Sorry, I should have been clearer. Lines 7 and 13 show how I was able to cut/paste the line from the gallery; the other part of that is farther down the page: {{main page image|File:Traian Vuia aircraft.jpg|Traian Vuia's monoplane|width=x137}}{{main page image|File:Bouvet capsizing March 18 1915 (cropped).jpg|The French battleship ''Bouvet'' capsizing|title=The French battleship Bouvet capsizes after striking a mine during the Battle of Gallipoli.|width=175}}
Lint errors are a serious problem in Wikipedia, and one tiny lint error on a page can cause the rest of the page following to display with incorrect indentation, color, or font size. Therefore, I hope when you say "I really don't care about lint errors" you mean, "I really don't care about lint errors for pages that are used as scratchpads for other pages; of course I do care about lint errors on actual production pages."
Again, my apologies for not being clearer. Yes, that is exactly what I meant.
Please explain the purpose of "title=" and why it appears sometimes and not other times.
Please explain the purpose of "border=yes".
Please explain the purpose of "|width=100" and "width=x137". Can these both be right? —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:49, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For those, please see the template documentation, although I'm not exactly sure how the x137 syntax works (User:David Levy is the one who usually uses that). Thanks. howcheng {chat} 18:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 29 March 2020[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

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  • The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What is this newsletter meant for , can you please explain because I don't understand it

Nndms (talk) 12:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nndms: The above newsletter is for administrators. Since you aren't one, it's not applicable to you. howcheng {chat} 15:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi. I removed the refimprove section tag on Book of the Law, it seemed fine. Am I missing something there? The section is well in need of a paragraph break or two though. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:29, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Randy Kryn: That big long paragraph only has one footnote, right at the beginning. Thus, the tag. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 22:33, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
When I talk to people about editing Wikipedia they seem hesitant to even attempt to do it, like putting your footprint in new cement or something. So I usually use the example of paragraph breaks, "just find a too-long paragraph and put a break in there". That one is a doozy of a text wall, so good catch. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:36, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
p.s. looks like Regardie's quotes in the long graph (I've added one break) are probably from the same source referenced. Putting it near the start was likely some editors way of referencing the quote bank. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:41, 5 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wish you safety and health[edit]

Dear fellow editor. The world is struggling to stay safe from the harms of a some tens of nano-meters sized virus. I wish you and your dear ones full safety from the dangers of this unilateral love! Regards. --Mhhossein talk 08:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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@Fastily: FYI this was a duplicate of File:Han-Jiang-Teochew-temple-door.jpg. I'd forgotten I had uploaded it separately here. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 07:07, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


At Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/April 14, the Arthur Matthew Weld Downing article says April 13, not 14. Art LaPella (talk) 04:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I did not know what to do with this eligible article. I was think as feast day on April 24 but I thought I would leave it up to you. It is well sourced but there is a bit of confusion about the feast day. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 01:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC) @Coffeeandcrumbs: I'm afraid we can't use it, then. I can deal with ambiguity about the year (c.f. Mariah Carey) but not the actual date. howcheng {chat} 15:55, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 26 April 2020[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020[edit]

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The Signpost: 31 May 2020[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2020[edit]

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  • A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

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Treaty of Trianon[edit]

Please, add the article of Treaty of Trianon (1920) to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 4 because of its centenary today. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you very much! --Norden1990 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Jeannette Expedition of 1879–81[edit]

Hi, Howcheng. I'm a little confused with the dates. Do you mean June or July? 1879 or 1881? I can go fix Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/July 13 and Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 13 myself, but I thought I should check with you first. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PFHLai: I'm not sure why I thought the sinking was on July 13. Please feel free to fix it. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 02:54, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's now back on the June 13th OTD/SA template. Thanks, Howcheng. --PFHLai (talk) 08:03, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 28 June 2020[edit]


Hey, Howcheng. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
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Happy First Edit Day![edit]

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society[edit]

Dear Howcheng,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020[edit]

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Featured picture delist[edit]

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/delist/File:Anschlusstears.jpg — not currently used in any mainspace articles, (t · c) buidhe 01:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Selected anniversaries for September 8[edit]

Hello Howcheng, I would really appreciated if you could add the article Huey Long to the Selected anniversaries for September 8. It was delisted for this year due to atrocious references. In the past month, I've done a lot of work and I think I'll actually be able to nominate for GA in another week of editing. On top of that, this year is also the 85 anniversary of his shooting. Thanks! ~ HAL333 18:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@HAL333: 85th anniversary doesn't have get any special treatment, unfortunately. If the GA passes, are you planning to put in for a DYK appearance? If so, that would disqualify him from OTD year. At any rate, I won't be touching that page until a few days prior, so if you do get to a good point, your best bet is to leave a note on the talk page so that I'll see it when I do the update. Thanks and good luck! howcheng {chat} 18:22, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, thanks! ~ HAL333 18:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Helen Mirren[edit]

Hi, Howcheng. Just an FYI: Your {refimprove} got reverted, too. --PFHLai (talk) 06:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, if I run it, you can be sure TRM is going to flag it. howcheng {chat} 06:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know... --PFHLai (talk) 13:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020[edit]

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Hi, Howcheng. Do you mean that Obama is better on MainPage for the 13th anniversary of his becoming POTUS than on his 60th birthday? I prefer anniversaries with nice round numbers, if available. Oh, well... it's okay. --PFHLai (talk) 21:39, 1 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PFHLai: No, just that people don't normally get to appear for birth/death anniversaries if they are already in a regular blurb. We also might make an exception for really significant birth dates like centennials. Also, it seems that putting him in this year might seem like a political statement, so I don't think he'll make an appearance until next year at the earliest. howcheng {chat} 04:17, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, that was indeed for next year. Note my edit summary. Not a 100th, though. --PFHLai (talk) 11:57, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost: 2 August 2020[edit]

Selected anniversaries for August 9[edit]

Hello. I saw the changes that you made to the selected anniversaries for August 9, which will be shown on the Main Page in a few days' time. I do not know if the selection of blurbs among those that are in the staging area is random (aside from the restrictions), but my attempt to change some of those was reverted. I did see that my edit resulted in that page having too many 20th century events, but it had already happened at least once, such as in 2018. Was that a valid excuse for the revert? Also, do you think the use of the word cheers (in a probably inappropriate use) in the edit summary might have qualified as a breach of a now-vacated motion?

I would have wanted to have the anniversaries for the Fat Man bomb and the expulsion of Singapore from Malaysia displayed on the Main Page, as those events are celebrating their 75th and 55th anniversaries respectively this year. Would it be possible to exempt this year (and not again until the 100th anniversary) from the restriction that the anniversaries for Little Boy and Fat Man should not appear in the same year? Thanks. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 17:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]