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Deleting my page[edit]

Hi, Tchetche7 here.

There is no reason to delete my page. It literally exists. Look on the google maps. I hate you.

Have a bad day.

Tchetche7. Tchetche7 (talk) 07:49, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(talk page watcher) Posts like the above and this make it quite hard to believe that Draft:Senepánska republika shouldn't be deleted again per WP:A11 or WP:G3. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:39, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Tchetche7: There are lots of micronations with articles on Wikipedia. In all cases, these micronations have received coverage in reliable, secondary sources. That's what it takes to have an article on your micronation here. When I do a search for such sources on your micronation, I get....nothing. I.e., it's made up, nobody recognizes it, and it has no place here on Wikipedia. Please stop recreating Draft:Senepánska republika until such time as you gain the attention of reliable, secondary sources. It's been deleted under WP:CSD#G3 twice now. If you recreate it again without reliable, secondary sources, it will almost certainly be deleted again and then salted against recreation. As to your hating me, that's too bad. But, I'm not here to be liked. You should be aware of our WP:CIVIL policy. If you continue to violate it, you will most certainly be blocked. If you have any questions about this, let me know (civilly). Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy New Year, Hammersoft![edit]

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Happy New Year!

Hammersoft,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 16:54, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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BLP concern[edit]

I have redacted part of a comment at Talk:Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill [1] due to BLP concerns. Should this be rev-deleted? Sweet6970 (talk) 18:12, 5 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I don't think it's necessary at this time. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though. If you find other such situations, please let me know. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 13:47, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Thanks, I will notify you if I see something similar in future. Sweet6970 (talk) 10:21, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Non-free images close[edit]

Hi Hammersoft! I noticed you recently closed this discussion. You referenced "after a month" in your close, but I'm not sure if you were aware that the discussion was added to WP:CENT only a few days ago, thus why most of the !votes are recent. There also seems to be a lot of room for further discussion — for instance, seeking comment from WMF Legal — that could potentially sway editors. Given those factors, the close feels premature. Would you consider letting it run for a little longer so that those who don't follow CENT as religiously have a chance to weigh in and for the discussion to move forward? Best, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 06:44, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • If you want to re-open it, then re-open it. There's no reason not to. However, I think it ill advised. It was a valid RfC for 30 days, after which time it was properly de-listed as an RfC. During the time after it was de-listed as an RfC, there were just two comments in three days. Neither were in support. In the time from when it was listed at WP:CENT to when I closed it four days later, it attracted five comments. One support, two neutral, and two oppose. The subject wasn't moving towards consensus in favor. It's doubtful it would do so across another 30 days. It's also worth noting that in the time from when the RfC began to the end of yesterday, the WT:NFC attracted 1,363 pageviews [2]. That's quite a lot, without gaining consensus. With respect, it has had its day in the sun, and it didn't gain consensus. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:18, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Fair point. I'll reach out the WMF, as I think a clear stance from them might cause a material shift, but otherwise there's no reason to expect a change. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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"The Zangief Kid" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Sundown towns in Mississippi[edit]

A tag has been placed on Category:Sundown towns in Mississippi indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 02:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Nice to meet, I'm curious[edit]

Sockpuppet blocked.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

<snip from section head>...as to why the article I created got "Create=Require administrator access" tag?</snip> Greetings, Nice To Meet. I'm curious as to why the article I created got "Create=Require administrator access" tag? when my article clearly meets the start-class requirement, see WP:ASSESSMENT, It can be improved with more unveiling information in the near future. Also I created the page Nina Hastie and I'm currently busy with 3 more. I would like some deeper insights about the topic I'm writing about also the reason why I named it B major (Bjorn Martin) is because that's how they pronounced it on Television and IMDB has a profile for the subject. the guy has a knowledge panel for his real name and stage name.. so I assumed that would probably be his disambiguation since there already is a Bei Maejor whos is a musician.

just when I thought I'm doing articles the way it should be but I'm definitely not caught up with the whole story.. I saw the article was removed many time before by others and yourself. Please don't just assumed that information is the same, please go back if you can and read to see what is different. doesn't Wikipedia say having a music award nomination does qualify a musician for a article?? or are you just being spiteful because some stupid spam guy was disturbing the encyclopedia? i'm new to editing stuff but I've been reading Wikipedia for over atleast 20 years.

sometimes you need to give things time, because things take time.

my article was moved to draft space, but right after that you locked the subjects name and disambiguation without dropping me a message on my talk page. you haven't even read my user page? come on man...

Regards!

Defunkedmaster (talk) 02:40, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quick note, Hammersoft - Looks like I broke the admin-only protection you put on Draft:B Major (Bjorn Martin) a while back when I moved the page from mainspace. Apologies - it did not seem to trigger a warning when doing a move or I missed it. Digging in to the sock history there now. Quite the show. Sam Kuru (talk) 14:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kuru: No worries. It's unfortunate the software doesn't warn. @Defunkedmaster: I crafted a much longer response, but feel it likely better to let a checkuser handle Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bmusique99. If I'm incorrect in my conclusions, then you can expect a longer reply. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:46, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Defunkedmaster: I saw this edit of yours. Sorry, no, I don't have a personal vendetta against Bjorn Martin nor any personal issues with him. This has nothing to do with my feelings. This has everything to do with a long stream of sockpuppets and abuse of the Wikipedia platform in a vain attempt by the person and/or close associate to have an article about this person on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bmusique99/Archive and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Bmusique99. If I allowed my personal feelings to be involved in making administrator decisions, then I shouldn't be an administrator. I've never met Bjorn Martin and never will. I also saw this edit of yours. There is not a single article on Wikipedia that can be called "their" article. You do not own any articles. If you're not comfortable with other editors changing anything and everything you do on articles here, you're on the wrong project. See WP:OWN. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:17, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

thats good to know because I was under the impression you met the guy and you don't like him but anyways I'm going through this socking and there are so many sockpuppet accounts it's insane the amount of times it was tried to be created.
why hasn't wikipedia alert me about this? when I created the article? I believe that wikipedia is a project for collaborating with people and for anybody who wants to build and make a better encyclopedia. I didn't mean they are my articles just meant the ones I'm creating, if this sockpuppet saga is going to affect my stay and my account on the Encyclopedia than I don't want to be involved with this article. Not at least until I have made my 20K edits which is my goal at the moment and to become an administrator.
it would've been nice to be alerted about these things before I published the article. let me know how I can fix this? I'm in no way linked to any articles I edit or create.. its just people I always see on social media and online, who are very well known in their fields but saw they don't have information about themselves on the Encyclopedia. As a good citizen I have taken it into my account to give these underrated celebs a space on the Encyclopedia. please feel free to rate and edit my other articles,maybe they are involved in sockpuppets too.. I want be far away from trouble like that because I have already been working on 3 more articles for the last 2 months, which I want to publish hopefully soon.. please consider checking these topics for me? Draft:DJ Ready D & the one in live space Nina Hastie I truly appreciate you bringing this to my attention.
Defunkedmaster (talk) 16:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Being an administrator is not and never should be a goal. Being an administrator isn't a promotion on the project. It is a demotion. It doesn't make you a special editor. It makes you an editor with more restrictions being forced to do administrative things in order to remain an administrator. Administrator privileges aren't privileges at all. They are additional tools that allow you to do the things you need to do in order to be an administrator, and that is all they are. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:26, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Hammersoft Yes i completely understand, I'm not doing this for purpose of promotion but more to be a Master of knowledge (especially in the Arts & entertainment industry) and too contribute and add important things which aren't presented on the encyclopedia and to help make Wikipedia a safe place to get information from. Thank you for the advice i will be looking into the additional tools used by other administrators. I love writing and typing! I'm considering Wikipedia as my job from now forth. but as related to the article where do we go from here? Defunkedmaster (talk) 16:35, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Hammersoft could you also please tell me how I can comment and give my thoughts in the sockpuppet investigation? I'm trying but don't see a "reply" button? so for this sockpuppet investigation page do I edit the page and than add my comment? Defunkedmaster (talk) 16:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Delete the photo[edit]

Can you delete File:Francois Letexier.jpg and other photo; File:Francois Letexier 2021.jpg right now, not later? I am giving you permission to have the pictures delete immediately... Please? Footballstars2022 (talk) 10:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(talk page watcher) Hi Hammersoft. These are both sourced to Getty which pretty much means there's no chance of keeping them even if they weren't replaceable non-free use, -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:51, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
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Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

February songs[edit]

February songs
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my daily stories

Fresh flowers for you! - My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace. By chance, I found a good statement by RexxS today, end of first thread. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


February 2023[edit]

Let's keep further discussion on your talk page, where it started. Thanks. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Information icon Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Warren G. Harding, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Sundayclose: Please see your talk page. I already addressed this the moment I reverted you removal. WP:BRD is useful here too. I recommend you revert yourself. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See my talk page. Sources belong in the article, not my talk page. Sundayclose (talk) 20:05, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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I object, get consensus (from someone else)[edit]

Sorry to bother you again, but I've hit another roadblock. Here's the history:

1. I made an edit that, in hindsight, was too ambitious.

2. Bbb23 reverted with the rationale that "you need a (strong) consensus for these sorts of changes."

3. I went to the talk page to discuss with Bbb23 whether "needs consensus" was a valid rationale. Bbb23 replied "I am objecting, so you now need a consensus."

4. Another editor suggested that I make incremental changes and I posted that I intended to do that.

5. Shortly thereafter, Bbb23 started a section discussing their concerns regarding the ambitious edit.

6. I thanked Bbb23 for providing their concerns and began making incremental changes. Bbb23 reverted the first one with a substantive rationale. They did not revert the next two (second, third).

7. Bbb23 reverted my fourth incremental change with an edit summary saying "as I said on the Talk page, the flow is better if this sentence is left at the end, and you didn't get consensus for this change." The reference to "talk page" referred their post at 5. above.

8. I started a talk page discussion regarding "flow."

9. Bbb23 did not reply. I pinged Bbb23. In response, they started a conversation on a previously uninvolved editor's talk page. That editor expressed general disapproval of "the changes" without providing any insight regarding the "flow" issue.

10. Since Bbb23 had not replied to my Edit warring talk page post, I pinged them again there. They replied that the flow issue had been discussed elsewhere and "You do not have a consensus for making the change."

11. I asked Bbb23 to point me to the prior discussion of flow. They did not reply.

12. I waited a week and started a discussion of the "consensus" issue. Bbb23 did not reply.

13. I restored my edit with an edit summary of "Obvert: Given the opportunity at talk, reverting editor has failed to provide "reasons based in policy, sources, and common sense" in support of either "flow" or "consensus" justifications for their revert."

14. Bbb23 re-reverted with an edit summary of "as you've been told, you must get a consensus, RfC has been suggested." Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 00:26, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In conclusion, it seems to me that an RFC is premature if the two involved editors have not had a meaningful discussion. But what if the reason for the lack of discussion is that one of the editors doesn't engage? I would appreciate your suggestions - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 00:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Never mind. It looks like a third person has joined the conversation. Sorry to have bothered you. - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 02:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
General piece of advice; changing any policy is something the community will want a hand in. It is rare that policies change with just one editor doing it. For my part, I am reticent to see policies change without community involvement, since these polices are used in so many ways, in so many discussions on the project. There is a high chance of unintended consequences. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:10, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right: Bold edit, revert, community discussion. But what if only one editor objects and then doesn't discuss? That's the problem I had here. - Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:19, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
WP:THIRD and Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) are likely good starting points in a case like this. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:57, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened[edit]

Hello Hammersoft,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.

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For the Arbitration Committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Query[edit]

Hello, Hammersoft,

Why did you delete pages created by Sweettooth031, claiming they were a block-evading editor when they aren't a blocked sockpuppet? I can't see that they've been reported to SPI either. I think you've jumped the gun here. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RV Petrel talk[edit]

That deletion certainly not intentional, and don't really know why it happened. I think that the edit page was still open when I came in and I refreshed before closing - I would have thought that it should have flagged up as an "edit conflict". Apologies also to Springnuts. Davidships (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • It's happened to me before too. There's some sort of bug in the software. I haven't taken the time to log it when it happens to help lock it down. I figured it was an accident. No worries! --Hammersoft (talk) 02:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Well, the problem occurred, and was sorted before I even noticed! All good here, and thank you both. Happy editing! Springnuts (talk) 16:52, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    P.S. and especially thanks Hammersoft for leaving the “Deleting my page” comment at the very top of your talk page in place. Excellent comedy value, and such a good response. Springnuts (talk) 16:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It being at the top is just an accident of timing, as I wipe my talk page at the beginning of each year :) They just happened to be the first poster on my talk page this year. Thanks though! Fortunately, that person hasn't returned to attempting to get their micronation off the ground by way of Wikipedia. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please make it sticky! Springnuts (talk) 09:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just wanted to say[edit]

Your comments at the arbcom about that particular case and about arbcom itself is spot on in my opinion and has been for some time. Not only would I not participate in a case but I have never and would never even comment on any case. There are many reasons why but the first being, though I have a lot of experience in the English language and learned enough over the years to participate in most conversations, I do not feel at all confident in my command of the language. I have been easily misunderstood over the years because I do not know every aspect of why certain things are said how they are, if that makes sense. I love the encyclopedia. I love what it truly means to so many people and I love the collaborative experience. I deeply respect even those that disagree with me and even those who have said things that hurt me for a time. I did not understand or fully appreciate what consensus was from a Wikipedia standpoint when I first came here. While I am still learning and sometimes wholly disagree with consensus I have grown to have a deeply rooted respect for it. That, in part, was the result of discovering and pondering the ten principles that is your user page. I live by it now and project it in every discussion and conversation I have on the encyclopedia. Sometimes we can feel like we are on an island to ourselves here. I've felt alone in my beliefs on civility and honoring the libre mission of Wikipedia. I have felt isolated even among those I would almost certainly agree with outside the encyclopedia. I do not let my activism in life control my actions on the encyclopedia. I do not aspire to make the encyclopedia a perfect encyclopedia by removing every thought I disagree with. I aspire to make it more perfect by finding areas we can compromise by including verifiably sourced evidence and presenting as many sourced positions as possible within policy requirements, especially those contrary to what I personally believe. I wanted you to know that someone saw your comments and agreed with you. --ARoseWolf 15:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@ARoseWolf: As I think you know, I can fire off very long walls of text and wax poetic forever. Here, I'm at a loss for words beyond this very simple fact; you're amazing! Your praise is high indeed. Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 16:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
March songs
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my story today
I just came to share impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, and they fit here best, thank you for that simple thank you! - pics now at 25 March with ups and downs and two cats --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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File:Philip Connard NPG 4702.jpg[edit]

Hi Hammersoft. Hope you're doing well. Do you think File:Philip Connard NPG 4702.jpg needs to be non-free? The photo itself is probably just a case of c:COM:2D copying and the painting looks like it might be c:COM:PD-Art despite the claim of copyright ownership given in the file's EXIF data. The NPG and the WMF have had their issues in the past, but this still seems like it should be OK for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:42, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • The photograph itself is simply a slavish reproduction and doesn't attract copyright. The artwork I think is PD, but it would hinge on the definition of "published". See Cornell copyright table. --Hammersoft (talk) 11:23, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wondergateleaks[edit]

  • What should we change about our page?
    you have deleted our Wondergateleaks page and have committed various International crimes/laws doing so.
    Please respond so that we can go over the evidence we need to take you to a international court. Wondergateleaks (talk) 15:29, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wikipedia has a policy of no legal threats. It would be in your interest to read that. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:21, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

April flower[edit]

April songs
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my story today

Yesterday's story was around Messiaen, and I got no protest, - perhaps the ice age is going to end? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Peggy Moffitt in Rudi Gernreich monokini swimsuit 1964.jpg[edit]

What do you think about the non-free use of File:Peggy Moffitt in Rudi Gernreich monokini swimsuit 1964.jpg (just a heads up depending upon when and where you look at it, it's topless photo of a woman) being used in the main infobox of Peggy Moffitt? It seems like it probably would be better in the section about the Monokini, but at the same time it's being used in two other articles as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Marchjuly: The image is entirely inappropriate for Peggy Moffitt, because the image itself is the subject of an article. This is covered by WP:NFC#UUI #7. While there are other pictures of monokini on the Monokini article, what started that fashion was the image depicted. It's the iconic image of which the article talks. The image is inappropriate for Rudi Gernreich for the same reason. We had the same problem with File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, larger - edit1.jpg being used on Joe Rosenthal until a successful argument was made that the image had fallen into the public domain. So, I would remove the image from the two articles other than Monokini, and remove the rationales for those articles off the image description pages. If you get pushback. feel free to direct people to this discussion. Not that I'm the final word, but people need to understand there is a policy based reason for the removal. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:10, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Removed images in List of Tekken characters[edit]

It's inadvisable to use multiple non-free images but not prohibited. Kazama16 (talk) 04:03, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Kazama16: I'm sorry you've bumped into this non-free images issue. It's a critically important part of the mission of this project. There's an extremely long history on the project of this dating back more than ten years. The shake out of it all is that per-character images in list articles like this are not permitted. If there is a character specific article, it's fine. But, not in a list like this. The argument that it is important to have the images to show the appearance of the character is invalid. It completely undermines WP:NFLISTS. If that argument were valid, then WP:NFLISTS wouldn't exist, and neither would WP:NFCC #8 from which is it descended. Including these images like this results in this article being the 2nd highest non-free content using article on the entire project of over 6 million articles. Exceptional use demands exceptional justification. That doesn't exist here. It's just a character list. I am reverting your re-addition. If you believe you are in the right, please take up discussion at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content to have WP:NFLISTS invalidated. Reverting again isn't the way forward. More discussion about WP:NFLISTS can be found there in the archives. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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May music[edit]

May songs
Broad apple tree towards forest, Ehrenbach.jpg
my story today

my story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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