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Re: Benny Girke

Hi, Govvy - having been away for a few days, I just realized I was a bit more curt at the (now closed) Benjamin Girke AfD than I'd intended. To expand just a little bit: Local and regional newspaper writing about amateur footballers in a SIGCOV-relevant fashion generally just isn't something that happens in Germany, and certainly not if there's no reason to cover them beyond their hobby. If their editors are short on content for the next issue, they're much more likely to fill the blank spaces with ads instead, because well, I think we're all vaguely aware where print's at in 2023. Now, that's obviously no ironclad guarantee that there really hasn't been any coverage of him, but searchable online newspaper archives are few and far between at the local level, to put it mildly, so you pretty much wind up just stubbing your toes at the limits of practicability here. Hope that's a little more helpful. Dr. Duh 🩺 (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

"Harry Kane" as top scorer

Thanks for restoring the version on the Tottenham Hotspur records article, but Harry Kane's article still says that he is the top scorer. Could you restore that article too? Mwiqdoh (talk) 10:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I have a work meeting I am going out too soon, so it might not be done today. I kinda of edit wikipedia between small breaks at work, which I probably shouldn't be doing!! Regards Govvy (talk) 10:33, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Newcastle United

Not sure what's happening with this article between this and that over the dispute of relevant content or not... Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

@Iggy the Swan: I was trying to revert this dodgy edit, [1], regards. Govvy (talk) 19:17, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Ah I see - sometimes other later edits do get in the way and restoring a previous version would be the better option. Didn't notice the dodgy edit. Cheers -- Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

User:HazemGM

Good afternoon, from Portugal,

i'm actually undoing the actions of this blocked nuisance, NEVER talked to anyone during their spell here, met their wiki-demise early this month i believe. From there onwards, they have already "contributed" through tons of IPs, i have reported them all, and they all were blocked.

No worries, vandal's version stays in Jonny (footballer)! Attentively 2001:8A0:7643:2400:19F9:D2:685D:B94A (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@2001:8A0:7643:2400:19F9:D2:685D:B94A: I am not sure what you're on about, an unverified sock? Anyway I am just reverting you on Johnny which seems like a perfectly valid link from the official website. Regards. Govvy (talk) 18:34, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes sir, sockpuppetry through IPs, you can check User:Mattythewhite's talk where several addresses are reported (then blocked). Regarding the link in Jonny, indeed it is valid because it's an official club profile that does not appear anywhere else in the article.

Regards back, sorry for any inconvenience --2001:8A0:7643:2400:19F9:D2:685D:B94A (talk) 18:38, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I was sure I'd seen similar editing like that before, back on 17 February to be precise, when a link I identified as "appropriate" was reverted. Nonetheless, I will also take the above information to my knowledge too -- attentively, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:53, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Phoenix Patterson

Firstly, your maths is wrong, 49 + 5 does not equal 51 (amongst other examples). Secondly, you are double counting the play-off matches which Soccerway displays as 'league' but they are not (they are already displayed in the 'other' column). GiantSnowman 14:03, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: What are you on about? He played 15 league games in 2021 and 34 in 2022 for Waterford, that equals 49, are you going to fix it or not? Govvy (talk) 14:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I've already explained the situation with playoffs - see these edits by @Supersaints2014:. GiantSnowman 14:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

What's that got to do with that? Soccerway records the playoffs as a cup, why are you recording his league stats lower? Why are you making this mistake?? Govvy (talk) 14:22, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Nirvana

Here are some band members who are not sourced (or their years of inclusion are not sourced, or their instruments are not sourced) in the article: Lori Goldston, Chad Channing, Jason Everman. There are others. I don't need to list all of them here. Please either add citations to confirm all of the details of all members, or remove them from the list and adjust the timeline accordingly. I'm not keen on removing everything so I can accept your revert for now, but I do expect WP:V to be respected. I'm challenging anything that is not fully sourced, so WP:V applies for that information. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 15:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: Lori Goldston, (cite:72) Chad Channing, (cites:14, 173), Jason Everman (cite:18), there are covered by citations from prose. Govvy (talk) 15:48, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Where is it cited that Smear performed backing vocals? There are others. Again, everything in the list needs to be sourced. Please fix the list and timeline. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 15:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: Why should I fix anything? All I see and from my point of view, is that you're just being disruptive! Also there is a talk page for every article, if you have problems with something post there. Regards. Govvy (talk) 15:59, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

If you don't want to provide the citations, that's entirely up to you. But don't restore uncited information. Requesting citations is not a policy violation. Restoring uncited material is a policy violation if you've been asked not to do so. Sundayclose (talk) 16:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: Leave me alone and stop doing editing which appears disruptive. Govvy (talk) 16:02, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I placed a refimprove tag on the section. We'll see what happens over the next couple of weeks. I'll leave you alone if you don't violate policies again. Sundayclose (talk) 16:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

AIV Report

I see that you never warned TraackerTrxxs before submitting an AIV report against them. AirmanKitten203 (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@AirmanKitten203: No you don't need to warn people about that, doesn't matter first warning, or final warning, if you feel you see inappropriate behaviour you can report any IP or user without warning them. Govvy (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem: I saw that TraackerTrxxs created the now deleted page Placeholder00. Bit of an odd account, very old with some interesting editing, and I don't think it's a primary account, but someone's sub-account. Regards. Govvy (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Warnings are almost always expected before an admin will block. The rare exceptions are outlined in WP:ZT. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:05, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem: Alas, exception! I only report what I see and deemed inappropriate. It's up to the admins to make the final call. Regards. Govvy (talk) 16:10, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of international goals scored by Harry Kane (March 28)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

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Not updating 2022–23 Tottenham Hotspur F.C. season

Sorry for not updating it, I just was not in the mood because of that embarassing game. I never turn the TV off before the game finishes (no matter how badly we are losing), so that was the longest 90 minutes of my life. What a fucking disgrace. Mwiqdoh (talk) 08:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

@Mwiqdoh: I am not sure why you are sorry to me, but I understand your frustration with Tottenham. Govvy (talk) 10:46, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

The background section

The background section is needed to give readers background information for the season. It gives information on how they qualified to the season's UCL, how Conte was appointed, etc. It's all relevant to this season. Mwiqdoh (talk) 10:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

@Mwiqdoh: Stick to the key points, don't need a separate heading for background. Tottenham finished last season in a certain place, so qualified for the Champions league. Manager change from last season doesn't need to be mentioned this season. Tottenham started the campaign with who in charge, doesn't need a why. Simple, neutral and to the point. :/ Govvy (talk) 10:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

1991–92 Kilmarnock F.C. season

Regarding the 1991–92 Kilmarnock F.C. season, there is some significant coverage on Newspapers.com. I´ve added a couple from the Kilmarnock Standard and Irvine Herald and Kilwinning Chronicle to the article. There is also more from the Standard from 9 August (they had several pages dedicated to the beginning of the season)[2][3]. During the DRV, I think I found another source from a third paper either from the start of the season or the end (probably july/august) that would hopefully solify a GNG pass but I can't remember for the life of me where it was (either Newspapers.com or The British Newspaper Archive). I'll take a better look tonight and see if I can't find it again. Alvaldi (talk) 12:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Hiya, thanks for that, there are a fair number of sources on the article, so I am a little confused by the deletion. Will get to tidying it up as I can. Govvy (talk) 21:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Seems to have been a disagreement of whether match reports alone were enough for to prove notability a season. Personally I think that if a team gets detailed coverage of each aspect of the season (matches, transfers etc.) then that season should probably qualify for a separate article (as I argued in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1987–88 Kilmarnock F.C. season). That said, not everyone agrees so it never hurts having a couple of sources discussing the season as a whole as it should be enough for the article to avoid AfD.

By the way, the Nearly men! article has a list at the bottom with all the players who appeared in a match during the season. Alvaldi (talk) 09:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@Alvaldi: I decided to move the article back to main space. Regards. Govvy (talk) 09:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

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Lycurgus Burrows

Hello. There isn't much, I'm afraid. The Arsenal Who's Who is actually available online at https://archive.org/details/inlibrary , you should be able to see the page with his details HERE without an account. If you create an account, you get full access to read whole books, not just search snippets. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:49, 24 May 2023 (UTC)