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Happy New Year GiantSnowman!

Page Move

Hi GS, hope you had a nice Christmas and a happy New Year. When you are back from your break could you move User:Blethering Scot/School of Rock (musical) to School of Rock (musical) over the redirect i created last year. Thanks. Blethering Scot 20:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

thanks very much.Blethering Scot 22:12, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Dylan Carreiro

Hello. Ya I just noticed that there is a repeat. I mentioned he made his debut and the sentence after says the same thing too. How do I explain edits? That would be handy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NASoccerDude (talkcontribs) 19:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

George Gibson

Hi GiantSnowman, I am the son of Footballer George Gibson and can provide whatever personal details you require for this site. I'm not sure what reference I can provide besides my knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.gibbo (talkcontribs) 13:03, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happened to notice this when I was here a minute ago. The LondonHearts website here lists his birthdate as 15 Nov 1945, which is the date added by Mr Gibson's son. LondonHearts is WP:RS, though possibly only in context of Hearts stats, but it's at least as likely accurate as OzFootball. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:14, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert Murić

Hi! Umm... First off, apologies I guess, since I flat out forgot to put a newspaper reference for at least two out of Robert's 4 clubs before he joined Dinamo's youth team. An article that mentions the first and the last one. I just hate seeing obviously incorrect info being kept due to technicalities, but my bad. Now as for the other two - I have the access to and gathered the info from the official Croatian Football Federation database, where all the players' contracts and all the registrations are clearly listed. How do I go on citing that, the most correct of all sources, since the access is limited to a relatively small amount of people (well, some thousands of football officials & related jobs here)? Screenshots are easy to provide but I doubt that they would be useful. Zlopseto (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, even though it's far more strictly closed (as all the official data is stored there), sure! The link's here: - you won't see much though in terms of description. You can read about it online, though most articles about it are in Croatian I guess. Zlopseto (talk) 14:00, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, edited Murić again, with refs. Do check if it's ok. Sorry for the hassle! :) Zlopseto (talk) 20:23, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Ken Gutteridge

Hello, and compliments of the season to you. I'll have a look later (more concerned at the moment about my lot not contributing another little fairy tale to the magic of the FA Cup), but as he never played first-team for Birmingham, I doubt the books will mention him. One thing though, the Gresley database counts all competitions, not league only; the results and scorers lists show his goals were all scored in the league, but the appearances are all comps. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Royroydeb's creations

Hi GS, how are you?

I'm currently noticing the mentioned guy's creations. No efforts to make a decent page anyway, just creating them to "take the credit". I tried to talk to him several times, got no responses.

Almost every Spanish player this guy creates I improve (i.e. correct the page). This is getting a litle tiresome.

I'm hoping that you can "shed some light" in him.

Thank you, MYS77 21:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

If you are in need of some examples, here they are: Jonathan Cafú, Alef dos Santos Saldanha and Esteban Becker, all are nothing more than a simple line! Thanks, MYS77 21:35, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
  • And, after a quick research, I found that I'm not the only one complaining about it. If you take a look at his talk page, there's more requests from other users, and I did not found any answers too. Cheers, MYS77 22:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Yep, this is starting to really become annoying. I understand creating articles randomly, especially for credit, we've all been there but to let get to this... this is just sad quite frankly. I am considering messaging him on facebook as a last measure (facebook is listed on his page) but this needs to be discussed. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I have also seen this, but dont know what to do. Just look at Esteban Becker where only source is and the content is "Esteban Becker is a former Argentine footballer and a coach.[1]". Can we delete under CSD or PROD or do we have to AfD ever article? Can it be considered disruptive or something and have user blocked? Or perhaps there is a way from blocking editors so they can not create articles? QED237 (talk) 00:48, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not saying that the guy is acting in a bad way, no. But his edits are, indeed, disruptive. It took me a lot of time to fix his creations (some were missing a lot of info in box, others had a really poor storyline, and there it goes). I don't know what's the proper solution of this, but his creations need to improve ASAP. Thank y'all, happy weekend. MYS77 02:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Thing is, these days, to put it crudely, he doesn't seem to give a shit. There were incidents in the past where he played games with sources, and perhaps naively I put it down to his youth, suggested he stopped messing about, and then forgot about it. E.g. copying citations from other WP articles regardless of them being live or dead, writing a news item himself on a blog-style site and then citing it, or using someone's storyline in an online FM game as a citation in a BLP...
His attitude to sourcing and his complete refusal to fix his own mistakes or even to respond at all is now extremely problematic. See e.g. User talk:Royroydeb#Sourcing stats tables, User talk:Royroydeb#Bobby Hassell, and a warning here, to which responses came there none (I fixed the Hassell table myself). And he's still putting a reference at the top of stats tables regardless of whether it covers the content, as at Rafa Jordá, where neither source includes the Chinese Cup figures or any mention of Dinamo Tbilisi, which is supposedly his current club. He's a prolific editor, and not just in football. If the quality of his work is similar in other fields, we do have a problem... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:07, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: your input here would be appreciated. GiantSnowman 10:15, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@MYS77: @ArsenalFan700: @Qed237: @Struway2: - please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive268#Topic ban proposal for Royroydeb. GiantSnowman 11:18, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
  • In my opinion, the worst ones were Sheyi Ojo and Oluwaseyi Ojo; although you could argue that he is at least marginally notable, those two names are different names for the same player; the articles even use the exact same source. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 11:25, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Be patient, my dear friend!!! I am not running anywhere. It doesnt mean I will not improve them, which I have already done. You can check the Cafu one, I will now do the others :-) RRD13 (talk) 09:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Dishwashing liquid is a detergent used in dishwashing
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Template:Veria F.C.

By figures I mean, important first team players, presidents or coaches that had an important-significant impact on the history of the club. I've seen this one on Template:Olympiacos F.C. and I decided to add it to Template:Veria F.C. as well. Is there any problem with that action, that I should be aware of? PanosBonJovi (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Their appearances/goals scored, their work in order to improve the club's status/level, their own fame maybe(?). These people ain't considered to be figures for the club by my own judgment, these names came from an encyclopedia that's about Veria F.C. history. Well if this section can't be on the Template:Veria F.C. it's okay for me, but I believe that is a detail that should be included there, still these names exist on the main article Veria F.C. so if you want them removed, thats fine. PanosBonJovi (talk) 21:07, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Non-league list of seasons

Hello GS, Long story short.. I PROD'ed a lot of non-league List of Foo F.C. season articles today with the rational of Fails GNG, NSEASONS and NOTSTATS, such as List of Corby Town F.C. seasons, and the PROD was removed by Number 57. Just wondering if you think it's worth bring them to AfD or am I wasting my time? I link to the discussion is here Season lists deletion.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:07, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Air Lazur

Can you, please, undelete the Air Lazur page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mashine1984 (talkcontribs) 08:45, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Multiple accounts

Hello GS, could you please take a look at the history of 2014–15 Sheffield Wednesday F.C. season.. Four User accounts, which I suspect are the same person, could you please block all except the latest Rhys JP. Extra accounts : RPOwl (talk · contribs), Owl rp (talk · contribs), Rhysjparker (talk · contribs). Many thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Víctor Valdés

Could you please protect Víctor Valdés.. rumours about him joining Man Utd means the article is getting hammered. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Firas Awad

Oh, hello GiantSnowman!

Just a doubt here, you seem to have deleted the page Firas Awad, but Talk:Firas Awad isn't deleted... do you know how to fix this, or the procedure to do this? Thanks!

Gno- (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I tagged it with a CSD G8 JMHamo (talk) 23:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 Done by another Admin JMHamo (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Gno-simple-edits: @JMHamo: @Ronhjones: whoops, sorry, thanks all! GiantSnowman 12:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Libel Issue

Hell GS. Just wanted your opinion on the libel issues surrounding Crippled Black Phoenix. It appears that a number of protagonists have been editing this page, while the case is on-going. I'm wondering if a semi-protect is in order? Thanks. Karst (talk) 09:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Stefan Maierhofer

If I'm in the mood, yes. --Jaellee (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Removing Honours

Hello! Summer is nearby, so the Snowman should go hide in the mountains. Okay, all jokes aside. I've noticed that you have been on a spree of removing honours. (mostly African and Mexican players. Landon Donavan might have been a coverup.) I would like to know why. I'm not accusing you of anything, but I just noticed a pattern. Non African and Mexican players like Wayne Rooney, Robin van Persie, Clint Dempsey, Michael Bradley, Luke Shaw, Miroslav Klose, Robert Lewandowski, Jakub Błaszczykowski, Tim Krul, and etc. are also "unref", but you don't seem to be removing their honours. At first I though you were making good edits, until I noticed the pattern. Once again, I'm not accusing you of anything. I would like to hear back from you. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. This message I'm sending is in good faith.

More "unref" honours

- GoldenBoy25 (talk) 02:36, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Since you initiated the discussion regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Paterson, the above-linked proposal may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

‎Shawn Oakman

As I said to Yankees, the article showed nothing of importance; most college football players aren't important, and it put forth the idea that he was just another college football player, not showing anything particularly different. I addressed the notability angle because it would be unhelpful to A7-delete a subject that's clearly notable (if I demonstrate notability without addressing something's importance, it shouldn't be deleted), and I addressed it time and time again because Yankees wouldn't or couldn't understand what a primary source is. Nyttend (talk) 13:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I love how you continue to act like you are right, despite not one person agreeing with you. You're admin candidacy clearly needs to be reviewed and your deletion history definitely needs to be looked at. Because it seems to me like you are the one not understanding sourcing, not me.--Yankees10 17:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
@Nyttend: @Yankees10: guys can we please keep the discussion in one place (User talk:Nyttend#Shawn Oakman or here) and civil? GiantSnowman 17:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Let me quote myself. "The article showed nothing of importance; most college football players aren't important, and it put forth the idea that he was just another college football player, not showing anything particularly different". Nyttend (talk) 18:05, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
@Nyttend: - responding here to keep it in one place - saying this player was a college player was enough to cover the 'importance' aspect. Can you not understand that? You are again confusing 'importance' and 'notability' as seen in your comment that "most college football players aren't important." GiantSnowman 18:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Why do you say that they're all important? Unlike schools, A7 contains no blanket exceptions for people of any sort. When I was in college, I had a couple of dozen acquaintances who were college football players; were all of them important? Even if you want to restrict it to Division 1-A schools, you have 128 schools with approximately 100 players each: are all 12,800 of them ineligible for A7? Only the prominent ones are important, and only the exceptionally prominent ones are notable. Nyttend (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I'm not saying they're all important, I'm saying they make a credible claim of importance, or at least one sufficient enough not to meet A7 criteria. GiantSnowman 18:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ratking (group)

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QPQ review

This one looks easy; all the sources are in Serbian, so you should just read it through, touch up any English grammar problems (like missing commas), and see if the hook is cited inline. On your review, note if it's new enough (created within 7 days of nomination), long enough (at least 1500 characters), and if a QPQ was done by the nominator. The only thing I would ask the nominator to do is suggest an alternate hook, since this one is rather repetitive. Good luck, Yoninah (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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The history of Mongolia includes the foundation, expansion, and fragmentation of the Mongol Empire in the 13th century
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Rednationonline and Charlie Trafford

To answer your question RNO is a reliable source. It is a Canadian soccer magazine and even though it does look a bit like a "fansite" they do good work and employ some good journalists in Canadian soccer. The two articles in question were interviews with the player himself. They do a lot of work covering guys outside of North America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vince193 (talkcontribs)

SWP Notable members

I've left an explanation on the Talk page at Talk:Socialist Workers Party (UK)#Notable members. It is wholly unconstructive to remove the entire lists when several of them are not living, and almost all are verifiable in the articles (they are all bluelinked). Why not simply remove the ones that aren't verified (if there are any). They would only need a citation if they were not bluelinked (and I imagine also proof that they were 'notable'). Sionk (talk) 15:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:A.R. Kane

Template:A.R. Kane has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Phil Alexander

GiantSnowman, as you've deleted large sections of the page on Phil Alexander, most notably relating to American football, would you consider writing these sections yourself as I feel there is much to be written about of high importance? Also there are considerable aspects of his career such as sitting on the board of the football league and more recently the FA council, as well as currently being the longest serving CEO in league football. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Wiki user Walter Görlitz has removed the unref template from Robin van Persie. Just like you told me to not remove it from Keylor Navas, I think the same should be done with Walter Görlitz. I can't undo his edit because of the 3 revert rule. GoldenBoy25 (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Krystian Bielik

Hello GS, could you please protect Krystian Bielik... getting hit due to Arsenal rumours. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:41, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello GiantSnowman, I think this question may well have arisen before but thought you might be the one to ask... just created another new article for CPFC player Peter Berry and whilst doing so came across this webpage re his brother Johnny Berry wherein Johnny's exact name is shown as different to that in his Wiki page. Am not sure how reliable the site may be but seems reasonably sound to me. (:P) I note that the page is also included in Johnny's article, which I haven't altered, basically on the grounds that it may be a sensitive issue. (Or am I being too cautious here?). Any thoughts? Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ratking (group)

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An example of prose, a type of writing that simulates the natural flow of language
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Hi, I use the most updated and reliable website about Swedish football. This is the link to his personal page: --OLW älskare (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

It's third league, often the crowd is 100 people, there is not an official website. Anyway, his contract ended on 31 December 2014 so he is free agent right now. Is it reliable? I can't go to interview him. --OLW älskare (talk) 13:08, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
;) --OLW älskare (talk) 13:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, the Truppen 2015 (2015 roster) page on the club's official website doesn't mention him. I think that the problem about NFT or Soccerway is that we're talking of a very small club, and probably it's hard for them to update these informations abroad for non-professional teams... EDIT: I saw now that the page reports only few players. But I think that can be a reliable source, they post on their tables only those transfers officially happened. --OLW älskare (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi. About the reliability of the website, I see now that also the official website of the Swedish biggest league, Allsvenskan ( reports a box with transfers from that website. I think that it can be considered reliable, isn't it? It's a Swedish website and it's not so common abroad, but it is so precise. --OLW älskare (talk) 22:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Again Serbia v Albania

Hi. We have Discussed once and It's again the same problem with the users, they don't convince that for the abandoned match Serbia v Albania (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying), the caps do not counted to the players. Look the conversation that i had with a user and please intervene then at Albania national football team and Taulant Xhaka, thank you.Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi GS, how are you?

The guy mentioned above is changing Spain for Basque Country, and his edits in Iñaki Williams were full of prejudice.

Can you please, take a look at him?

Thanks, MYS77 16:04, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm OK, thanks. And thank you! Happy week, MYS77 16:14, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

help needed please =)

Hello man, I saw you deleted some info due to be unreferenced i tried to insert refer but it didint show up properly...can you please help me with this ??

this is the reference which can be used the same for the three references i have added ..can you just fixed it please ?

thank you

Adnan (talk) 18:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you mate Adnan (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
one more question please mate.. the hat-ricks record i added a refer which states clearly he has the most hatricks for a Spanish team along Zarra under Spain record. which means obviously he is the holder for barca hat-ricks record. so my question is important to add it under barca record mate?because i feel it is not really needed . what do you think ?

Thank you Adnan (talk) 18:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you again =)

Adnan (talk) 18:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you mate that would be a better option =)

Adnan (talk) 15:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Kostas Kiassos

Please don't remove referenced data from articles - spells at Panionios, Levediakos and PAS Giannina were referenced. Also stop posting misleading edit summaries - removing four years' worth of referenced stats from an infobox isn't "cleanup", it's vandalism. Cg29692 (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Football records articles :

Hello again mate, I just noticed most information or at least ALOT in football records articles aren't sourced ..and not like in one article in every record article even in some of them has been asked for sources since sometimes now...but it seems as long they are there (same way as it was with messi and ronaldo records) no one really is gonna try and put some maybe put a time limit ? or just delete unsourced information so people can start adding reliable information to these articles ?? what do you think ?

thank you

Adnan (talk) 23:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

George Toone

Good morning I have just spent over an hour researching the career of George Toone with references as you requested yesterday and you still deleted all of my entry. What am I doing wrong ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moorehulbert (talkcontribs)

Jon Stead IP edit

Hello GS, could you please review an IPs edits to Jon Stead... here... I don't want to edit war over it.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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The opening of the Beethoven Symphony No. 5, a famous symphony.
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Hi GS, should have brought this up earlier, but per WP:3RR, I have been removing what seems to me to be the obvious and repeated addition of incorrect kits to this article. If you check my recent edit history you will see very very similar activity, all of it unreferenced, by what I assume is the same person, though it may not be, on a number of small / old American soccer teams. As it was to me clear vandalism and disruptive editing I thought it was fine to revert repeatedly, this happened quite a few months ago across another large number of small team articles and I thought the editors would go away. I have recently been accused of edit warring over this (I presume, the accuser made no reference to any article and I have it seen them before). As I said, I should have raised this earlier but am sorry I didn't. I think the page probably needs protecting. I won't revert again to avoid any potential further issues. Fenix down (talk) 19:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the action. Fenix down (talk) 22:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Looks like the I.P. is back at this article using an account now. Fenix down (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
All those I have reverted recently are here: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Grandare Grande. Fenix down (talk) 13:30, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

James Bittner

James Bittner has made his football League debut, at the late age of 32, so could you restore his deleted article? Thanks!--EchetusXe 00:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sharu Naraji

Hi GiantSnowman

I have been trying to edit the page Sharu Naraji as some of the information written is incorrect and the edits that I make are continually reverted back. I have spoken Yun Shui who suggested I contact yourself directly. Please could you kindly edit the section that i required removing.

Many thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:33, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Apparent block evasion by Grandare Grande

You blocked user:Grandare Grande. I have encountered the editor, logged-in and anonymously in the past. Shortly after the block, user: made a similar edit and it looked suspicious so I dug deeper and found your block. I reported at SPI. Not sure if you want to follow-up. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi mate, how are you?

The guy above insists in saying that Kenan Kodro is Bosnian, despite being born in San Sebastián and spending his entire life in Spain. I've already warned him, but he/she does not give up.

Thank you, MYS77 00:42, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about the tone. It's the third or fourth time I'm reverting this guy. I sent him a message, but no replies by any way. Cheers, MYS77 12:16, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

3RR on Sergio Ramos

Hello GS, could you please take action on Baby12359 for edit warring at Sergio Ramos. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

CSD question

Hello GS, I was wondering if it's possible for me to get a list of all the articles I previously tagged with CSD G7 in the last month. I turned off my CSD log and can't see deleted contributions. Is this possible? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thomas Strakosha creation

Hi. You early have deleted one out three times the article Thomas Strakosha in the 2nd nomination, this for being a footballer which it's not yet an Fully Professional footballer. I was the creator of one time and again I'm still interested to create it, but see there if you try to create the article, it's "blocked" (for being deleted 3 times in a row I think), then what should we do if he make his first professional debut?. Thank you. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 14:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Got it, ok when it happen I'll talk again here. Thank u it's a pleasure to have your support here. Eni.Sukthi.Durres (talk) 18:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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Freeze dried coffee, an example of the application of food science
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Maldives national team kits

Hi, I am trying to do the Maldives national football team#Kit section but the arrangement of the section is mixing up with all the sections below in the page. Can you please help me out to fix this? Thank you. ZZ47 (talk) 06:24, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


It's definitely not "extra time", which is two periods of 15 minutes played after the completion of full time to break a tie in a cup competition. It is injury time, which is properly called 'stoppage time', or 'additional time' according to FIFA. This kinda explains it a bit better than I do. Daniel (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Paul Pogba

Hello GS, could you please RevDel some of the recent comments from IP on Paul Pogba.. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 22:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


What a depressing state of affairs Wikipedia is with "contributors" like yourself. Good luck on your sinking ship. You won't have any editors left at this rate unless they haven't come to their senses and live sad lives. Hope you're happy with yourself. Stevo1000 (talk) 03:37, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Whatever you left-leaning loon. Stevo1000 (talk) 17:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Go on then if it somehow makes you feel big. I'm sorry but the hypocrisy on this place is sickening. I see you want to get the Chelsea Bradford game it's own page. Whenever an editor wants a to create a notable football match article that he/she gets slapped down almost immediately. Stevo1000 (talk) 02:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Barry Ferguson

Hello. Just to let you know I've restored the club playing and managerial stats with refs. Think you must have missed the Soccerbase ref that was present in the playing stats when you removed them, it was below the table rather than the more standard above. I'll format it properly when I feel brave enough :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Sharu Naraji

Hi GS I have tried several times to edit the page Sharu Naraji as I feel this page holds incorrect information unfortunately these edits have not been allowed to stand, although admittedly I haven't gone about it in the correct manner.

You mentioned that the information was referenced however if you check the page that it is referenced to the page no longer exists. It is reference number 1. I would appreciate if you could edit this page.

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi GS, how are you? :)

The user above keeps on adding state league apps in box to Brazilian players. All of his edits were the same, and I've warned him three (!) times already, and got no answers.

Thanks, MYS77 03:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

OK. Thank you, MYS77 11:06, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


Please take a look at Alan Kardec history page. BenjaWF (talk · contribs) is ignoring WP:RETAIN and is edit warring. I warned the user twice. Before this, user received multiple warnings (see talk page history). SLBedit (talk) 14:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know but I do know the article includes {{Use American English}} since November 2012. SLBedit (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Maybe. "If an article has evolved using predominantly one format, the whole article should conform to it, unless there are reasons for changing it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page." The next rule contradicts the previous rule "The date format chosen by the first major contributor in the early stages of an article should continue to be used, unless there is reason to change it based on strong national ties to the topic or consensus on the article's talk page." SLBedit (talk) 17:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Give your input at Talk:Alan Kardec. Thank you. SLBedit (talk) 12:55, 6 February 2015 (UTC)


The Colombian harasser ( this one, after my humble opinion in the Quique Flores article regarding the page name in this here WP, many users concurred with me but he resorted to viciously harass only me) is back (please see this IP, only changes things regarding Mr. Flores, and is from Colombia so there).

I reverted him in Flores' article (where he again went against WP policy by inserting "Quique Sánchez Flores" as "playername"), but not in his other "contributions". I am being as honest as I can, if he returns to my page with his vomit-inducing antics, I most likely will respond accordingly.

Kind regards -- (talk) 01:49, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Neil Price

hello I'm Neil Price and was trying to edit and add to my profile as it is wrong and bits missing? Sorry I'm not very tecci lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crusader100 (talkcontribs)

Geoff Truett

Dear Sir, I do not think your edits on Truett were justified. I have provided references from four sources. I can, if you so wish put further references into the article. IT would have been politer to have spoken to me first. As a user of wikipedia for many years with numerous articles I am well aware of the rules. I worked on the information for the best part of two hours incidentally.(talk)

I feel your criticism of what I wrote was misguided. My entry improved considerably the stub. The existed info box did not include a place for death details. Your revisions became petty and whilst I can see that you have improved the references, I would contend that for such a minor entry they didn't need revising. Please ask me first rather than just removing my work. I knew Mr Truett quite well at one time. He wasn't a winger for most of his career but a powerful inside forward. It might have started as one but for Tonbridge he played down the middle. (talk)

Sorry for my attitude. I slept on it and can see why you insisted on more references. It was good discipline for me to hunt further for references. Keep up the good work. It would be nice if you didn't change everything I write unnecessarily. This is meant to be a democratic forum.(talk)


Has reverted me alright, calling me a crybaby and telling me to piss off from WP ( I did not descend to his level, but reverted him again (I was so nervous I got my summary all wrong, I meant "the name of the article here is QUIQUE FLORES" and said "QUIQUE SÁNCHEZ FLORES" instead). Please help me shed WP light towards this person, please! -- (talk) 22:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Did I do anything in the presentation of this message, Rojo's article or my dealings with the IP? I apologize if so, you know I have the greatest esteem for you as an editor and a wikiperson! -- (talk) 19:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I meant overall, not just the IP (I hopefully improved Rojo's article, always my intention here mate). Since you express no concerns, I take it you are pleased with my work, which is always important to me (your opinion is always taken into high consideration by me!). One final thought: how 'bout protecting Quique Flores' article for a couple of days, is that feasible? -- (talk) 19:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi, you may want to unblock User:WoolSalesman or alternatively reblock with a different edit summary. The original account was blocked solely due to a Wikipedia:Username policy violation. Both the block summary and to some extent Wikipedia:Username policy allow anyone, and in fact to some extent encourage people with few edits (as does Wikipedia:Changing username), to simply register a new account when they are blocked for a username violation, so it wasn't block evasion to register the new account and WoolSalesman has also now linked the old account User:6TrillionLampshades to the new account. Not really the new account to the old account, although it's so few edits it doesn't really matter IMO. Of course if you feel WoolSalesman deserved to be blocked whatever their name, I don't personally care about that, but you may want to clarify the block summary. Unless of course they were evading another block and not simply that of 6TrillionLampshades. Nil Einne (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Nil Einne#WoolSalesman. OK, I see that you unblocked the account, but your sock puppet warning on User:WoolSalesman still says "6TrillionLampshades". Do you want to change that to "NOTHERE" or just remove it altogether? -- ToE 19:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
User talk:Thinking of England#WoolSalesman. Done. And all I'm asserting here is that this was a public username change from 6TrillionLampshades to WoolSalesman, so claiming one to be the sock puppet of the other just doesn't make sense. They may be sock puppets of a different account, but I have nothing to add there. Cheers! -- ToE 00:42, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Sheyi Ojo

Hello GS, could you please restore the history on Sheyi Ojo prior to AfD. He made his Championship debut today. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Border on wiki tables

Hello. In the table 2015 New Radiant S.C. season#Results by matchday I have put the gray border between round 1 and 2 (in row 2) but I could not put it in the row 1, 3 and 4. Because in that table, round 1 and 2 is needed to be separated. Thank you ZZ47 (talk) 04:43, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

The problem is now solved. Sorry for bothering you. Thanks. ZZ47 (talk) 05:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Problematic IP editor on a rampage

Thanks you for acting on the IP editor who changed the name of the thread dealing with complaints against him.[1] Despite the actions of User:EdJohnston in putting IP blocks on several Jehovah's Witness-related topics earlier today, he is on a one-man crusade to inject pro-JW POV in a widening range of articles. He makes threats, does not discuss and instantly reverts any attempts to neutralise his behavior. No admin has yet shown any interest in the problem, which is fast getting out of hand. Any help you can lend would be appreciated. BlackCab (TALK) 10:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey now! It's a good thing I looked at your contributions so I noticed you talking about me without letting me know. We've been discussing this at the ANI thread, and all the outside opinions have been in my favor. When I saw that you and a couple others were reverting my edits and refusing to discuss them constructively, I disengaged and moved to other articles, but you have been following me around, stalking and reverting my edits. I just want to go our separate ways, but I see that you have a 5+ year history of WP:OWN tactics on certain religious articles, so I suggest a topic ban or break from these articles might be good for you and one or two others. Every edit I make is in line with sources and neutral POV. (talk) 10:35, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Actually one editor (Grahnbarr) sided with you initially but has gone quiet. I have no wish to continue the debate here. I have a large number of JW articles on my watchlist. I am not stalking you. BlackCab (TALK) 10:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

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Reverting edits

Hi GS, User:Sumitchamoli007 has edited the 2001 POMIS Cup to an Indian Singer biography. See it for yourself here →2001 POMIS Cup: Revision history. Can you please revert it to the version of 08:25, 24 January 2015‎ edited by User:Legacypac ? Thanks ZZ47 (talk) 04:53, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi GS, today I Prodded a reasonably large number of player / season articles relating to Udon Thani F.C. which, since they play in the regional third tier of Thai football I thought were essentially wholly unnotable per WP:NSEASONS and WP:NFOOTY. Unfortunately all these articles were created by the same user who has begun leaving mildly threatening (well more irritating than threatening) messages on my talk page, has also started the obvious vandalism of a number of Bhutanese football club articles that I have worked on which can easily be seen from his talk page and has now threatened to start messing with other articles if I don't remove the Prod. I wonder whether a word from an admin might have a bit more impact? Fenix down (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, hopefully that will be an end of it. Fenix down (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be. SveinFalk's comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patipan Unop and the continuation of the exchange with Fenix down on their own talk page after your comment show a worrying pattern. I agree with Fenix down's assessment that the comments are more irritating than anything else, but when you consider that they've already received a final warning for harassment in the past, I think block may be in order. Sir Sputnik (talk) 07:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
@Fenix down: @Sir Sputnik: unfortunately as I've also commented on the AFD I am WP:INVOLVED and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to block. Perhaps raise at ANI? GiantSnowman 09:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to hold back until the prods relating to his articles are done. He's threatened to start vandalising but hasn't done much and seems to have stopped. I think his behaviour is more out of frustration than anything. He seems to be here to create genuine articles of s reasonable standard it's just he also appears to have created a significant amount of content of non notable subjects. Fenix down (talk) 09:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I've taken this issue to ANI, as you suggest. I'd appreciate you're input. Sir Sputnik (talk) 07:13, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


Hello, i am Historicus of Belgium Football (Peter Mariën-Belgiumsoccerhistory) and i see that in many languages Wikipedia takes my work over but not with my name, i am the only one they dit the research of Belgium Football results and statistic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talkcontribs) 18:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Take me as friend on facebook Peter Joseph Mariën (simple and better to ask questions, yes there are books, Memories (can find and also site before (Belgiumsoccerhistory) and this year comes also Encyclopedy from first division (1895-2009) with close 10.000 players and all the information that i found and also results, carreer .... and later second division also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talkcontribs)

Look to the Dutch version of players from England they play in Belgium (Like the two Bunyan), i put just the results from every season from them. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talkcontribs) 19:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello, can someone exchange the topscorerslist in Belgium, because in 1958 is only Vliers topscorer with 25, Van Gool have 24. i was also the men they find out that Coppens was not three but two times topscorer because Mannaerts have 25. THIS IS the reason: 22) 17.02 Standard CL – RC Mechelen 0-5 ff (2-4) (Mannaerts (1-1,1-2) 2, Reyniers (1-3), Diddens (2-4 pen). The game is later 0-5 forfait, but is also win game, so the goals are acccept! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talkcontribs) 20:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Vliers is correct, Van Gool have 24, i dit the research, the link that you give take the information from the seventies....from a journalist. If someone want to put the topscorers in second division (nobody have this) with bron Peter Mariën, let me know, from 1919 to now, then i put it here, have no time to make a table like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoricusBelgium (talkcontribs) 20:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I have reverted your revert regarding his playing football for Royal Engineers. Can you cite a source that says that he even served with the REs? I have researched him on Ancestry and have found his date of birth (14 Apr 1858 in Battersea) and death (25 Mar 1944 in Surrey). I have also found his marriage details when he married Marie Louise White on 2 Sept 1880 when he is described as a "solicitor's clerk" aged 22. When his knighthood was gazetted, he was simply "Esquire" - if he had served as an officer in the REs, his military rank would be given. Do you have a copy of his book? He is certainly an interesting subject but I don't have the time to research him any further. Best wishes Bikeroo (talk) 07:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


hi thanks for removing loads of unfeferenced stuff, now loads of players dont have career stats at all so youre really making it worse please stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forestmanred (talkcontribs) 16:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


Hello, can you please check what is going on Nemanja Matić article..I am removing unsourced information which is even actually wrong about his cup appearances but someone insists about getting them back. i made a request about it at WikiProject Football

thank you

Adnan (talk) 16:33, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Adnan stop edit war and listen, the league appearances is sourced. Read my comment at WT:FOOTY#Nemanja Matić and you can use infobox and say it already exist on article, infobox is SUMMARY of article, if you remove in stats section then there is no source for the infobox. Also as I said, you want the content to be changed so stop edit war and listen. QED237 (talk) 16:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

ThreeTrillionLampshades aka WoolSalesman

Socks of banned racist User:Mikemikev. I've blocked WoolSalesman - who I'm guessing was pulling the wool over our heads. Cutesy guy. Dougweller (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi GS, how are you?

Already told you about this guy, but he continues with the disruptive editing. He stops editing for a few days (after someone reverts him) and then returns just to make the same unconstructive edits.

Thanks, MYS77 12:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy week, MYS77 13:39, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

It looks like someone got the documentation wrong

... on Template:Infobox football biography, referring to "tandard formatting for these infoboxes".

Take a look at the documentation at the underlying Template:Infobox, which shows – in my opinion – the correct way of coding infoboxes (+ navboxes, sidebars, and similar templates). There are good reasons for having a blank before and after the pipe:

  • a blank after the pipe prevents it being confused with lower-case "L", upper-case "I" and similar characters, or being read as such.
  • a blank before the pipe makes the underlying structure of the code very clear. It is immediately obvious where each template begins and ends. Moreover, for people with poor eyesight, it can be hard to distinguish the pipe jammed right up against the edge of the edit box.

Plus it just looks so much cleaner! And remember, we do need to consider the needs of editors whose eyesight is less than perfect.

In my opinion, it would also be good also to have a blank line between each block of parameters with the same numeric suffix. It is very easy to get the suffixes wrong, so that might help avoid a few more errors.

Regards, --NSH002 (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

(response moved from NSH001)
But in Template:Infobox/doc#Examples there aren't any spaces between the pipe and the text. If there's no actual impact on content/formatting (your comments relating to poor eyesight / it looking cleaner are mere editing constraints) then why change it? Like I said this type of formatting is present on tens of thousands of articles and, as I edit thousands myself a month (and have done for a helluva long time!), I can assure you I have never seen any issues with editors getting confused about the | etc., other than one-off IPs who wouldn't have been able to adequately code even if there was a space! GiantSnowman 16:08, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
No, look again, there are plenty of examples (in fact most of them) with the correct formatting, starting with the examples right at the top of the page. It's basically good coding practice. I'm a firm believer in making code easy to visually parse, since it helps avoid errors, improves understanding of the underlying structure and speeds up editing. The very fact that an error arose on Jean-Louis Heinrich, which you didn't immediately spot, illustrates the point quite well. I spend a lot of my NSH002 time cleaning up errors, and I am sure that a lot of them arise because typical wikicode is so difficult to visually parse. "Why change it?" - well I won't revert if it's a case of code formatting only (wastes too much time dealing with trivialities), but I will tidy it up if there's an error or something else that needs fixing.
Regards, --NSH002 (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that 'error' was mine from 2012 - it was a typo and nothing to do with the formatting... GiantSnowman 18:44, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Peter Armit

Hello, just placed a citation on the Peter Armit edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrc91 (talkcontribs) 17:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Rafinha page


someone is keep changing Rafinha's birthday from March to February even it is states clearly on Barca official website it is on March...can you protect the page please ?,_born_1993)

barca website :

thank you =)

Adnan (talk) 15:57, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

  • thank you ... and it seems barca website is wrong since he celebrated his birthday over his instagram i guess..

another question please .. .because it is getting frustrated for me i just added goals conceded for on international level only!! which is clear easy straight fact and someone says now no consensus and he reverted it !!! it just getting boring for me people just revert alot of changes!! i don't think wikipedia should be based on opinion even on the way data is entered ! as long as the data is correct i don't see the reason to revert it .

Adnan (talk) 16:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Please also take a look at Marc-André ter Stegen where editor has been edit warring, just like previuosly at Nemanja Matić a few days ago. Edit warring notice on his talkpage was removed. QED237 (talk) 16:38, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
@Adnan n2: we don't use 'goals conceded' for any goalkeepers, clear consensus at WP:FOOTBALL. As @Qed237: says please don't edit war over this. GiantSnowman 13:45, 14 February 2015 (UTC)


Persistent vandalism of CPFC page by this user. 3 edits reverted this PM. Eagleash (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Jerry de Jong - Reply

GS, all well?

I don't know what do you have against me in this approach (like my summary said, first it was Pedro María Herrera), I offer no POV in such sentences, only a very minor summary of their careers. Thus, one can read only the article of (in this case) the son and be "satisfied", without having to click in his actual article.

Don't want, however, to soil our wiki-relation and/or start pointless edit wars. Don't worry, article stays your way I will leave it in peace. Attentively -- (talk) 21:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

  • No follow-up? Hopefully, I did not cross the line in etiquette, t'was not my intention. Apologies if so. -- (talk) 21:52, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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The article Ragnar Þórhallsson has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Wgolf (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

-Okay I saw your name when I put up the prod so I had to check-looks like someone edited in info from a redirect page you made so there you go. Not sure where to go from this though...Wgolf (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello. I would like to create a page about another Gillian Johnston, the American polo player. Is it OK if I remove your redirect and simply add a hatnote?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Do we not need three namesakes to create a disambiguation page?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
OK. Would you know how to undo the redirect and create the disambiguation page please? For the article I want to create, we could call it Gillian Johnston (polo player). I'm only asking you because I tried to do a similar thing last time and the talkpage redirect was unchanged. Would you be able to create it faster than me perhaps?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:06, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: February 2015

Hello and nice to meet you. You're right, I did not prove the changes by any link. I just did so because I live in Tunisia and that player played today his second game in the local league, and scored a goal. But Wikipedia's pages rely on links from reliable sources. Thank you for correcting me. I will try to put reliable links on his page later. Alexsd27 (talk) 18:36, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, I saw your changes, thanks again ;) Alexsd27 (talk) 18:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Howard Newton - What are you doing?

Hi, for some reason you've undone a correct edit - Wikipedia isn't supposed to have out of date info. Howard Newton now plays for Tooting and Mitcham Utd, I'm a fan of that team and have seen him play. Just because I can't find a source on the internet doesn't mean it's not true. I tell you what, I'll take a pictur of him playing for TMUFC, put it on the internet and use the link - Will that be good enough for you??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maarlon (talkcontribs)


As I told at WP:FOOTY (dunno if you saw it or not), I'm not doubting your reasoning, just curious mate: how is it possible that Jonas Gutiérrez (or any other player for that matter) is allowed to play for Newcastle's youths at almost 32? Didn't they use to have a reserves championship in England? Is it extinct now?

Kind regards, keep it up -- (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Some bizarre person keeps vandalising the article. Can you protect it please? Thanks.--EchetusXe 09:53, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Seems to happen once every few months. Not too much hassle I suppose.--EchetusXe 10:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I got the following message from you [[2]] after correcting his birth date (44 instead of 1944 - it messed up his age calculation) (see [[3]]) which showed he was 1,969 years old. How is that vandalism? -- (talk) 10:24, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

"Because the correct date of birth is 1957!" Even if the correct date is 1957, which I could not know, I just corrected the date to fix the automatic miscalculation of his age. How is that "vandalism"? Is it necessary to be rude when somebody tries to help?
I did not saw you left this in the page, I thought it was an automatic message from Wikipedia. I think Wikipedia is a great website, however I never edited any article in the past. I think it's sad when somebody edits an article that old users feel that they are the only legitimate people allowed to edit pages and other people are "vandalizing" Wikipedia. I just corrected a date, I did not "vandalized"anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabfl (talkcontribs) 20:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Alright then, have a good weekend! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabfl (talkcontribs) 20:20, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

My edit was correct it can be verified on, here is the link: which can also be found on the external links of Marcel Sabou wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)


...for this. APK whisper in my ear 09:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


Greeting and salutations.

You may think that wikilinking initially England or United States is overlinking, but my perspective is that of being on a lookout to serve all comers, and that includes people who do not know any English, and are perusing the main space trying to figure out the meaning of what they see with the help of wikilinking. I am quite sure (12 year vet of Wikipedia, so something of a graybeard myself) that the policy you used to overturn my amelioration was not meant to apply here. Kind regards, --Mareklug talk 13:38, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

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Valencia CF

Hi, there is a minor incident at Valencia CF and I brought the case to WT:FOOTY for dicussion. He adds content with wikipedia as source while removing other sources and UEFA source dont compare teams. Unfortunately the editor has become uncivil and made a comment in his edit summary that may be interpreted as a threat, is it possible for you to remove that part? QED237 (talk) 12:39, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking about last part of this diff. The last sentence can be interpreted as a threat. QED237 (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Notability of Leo Miranda?

I came across this article earlier today, and was going to put it up for deletion. From what I can tell, the article fails GNG and he's not played in an FPL. Then, I noticed that you had restored the article, so I figured I'd better check with you first. Am I missing something here? Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

NAC revert

Hi, GiantSnowman. If any admin (Martijn, probably) closed the discussion, they'd have listed the templates under 'To orphan' in WP:TFD/HC, where they'd have been probably left to rot. This is extremely common in TFD; templates are often not deleted immediately. In the knowledge that I'm one of the few—if not the only one—who's using AWB to mass-remove and -convert templates, where there's consensus to do so, I: closed the discussion; carried out the orphaning; and listed the templates under 'Ready to delete'. Essentially, I've saved us all some time by skipping a step, which would've been to list the templates under a different heading, and apply {{Being deleted}} to each one. I've got to ask, what was the point of reverting my close? Alakzi (talk) 12:14, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Oliver McBurnie

Oh, sorry about that, my bad. Weegeerunner (talk) 18:56, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Leo Miranda

Hello. According to WP:FPL, the only state championship we list as fully-pro is the top level of the Paulista. According to Soccerway, Mr Miranda played in the Campeonato Carioca and the Campeonato Gaúcho, neither of which are listed. So according to me, that means no, he hasn't played in an FPL. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

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Turkish cuisine
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Hi GS, just wanted to see with you if you could save a recently deleted article, Đorđe Vukobrat, he passes notability, soccerway. Sorry to bother you. FkpCascais (talk) 15:14, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Dave Trott

I'm wanting to create a Wikipedia page for the award-winning copywriter, creative director and author (Creative Mischief and Predatory Thinking) Dave Trott, can we remove the redirect please? You placed it for David Trott the politician. (RedJulianG40 (talk) 13:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC))

Stephen Constantine change

Ok I am making the changes as per written in the article. For source please read the article before deleting anything. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:42, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Then you need to read the article now I will edit whatever is in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:55, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

You have deleted those already with a source in the article. Read the article before removing. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

So he was with Millwall for the 05-06 season and with Ethnikos Achnas for 12-13 season and assistant in Apollon Smrynis Greece for 13-14 season. Please check these and suggest whether to add. (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

ok please check 2011-12 and next season Cypriot league managers. (talk) 19:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Look in their wiki page you will find the dates. (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC) If this isn't true remove this data202.142.77.92 (talk) 19:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Better leave it as Nea Salamis it looks nice BTW are you from India?? (talk) 19:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

If not don't get involved with the indian manager.There are 100s of unreferenced articles in wiki go clean them. Leave this page alone!!! (talk) 20:09, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Okay, what seems to be the problem here? --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Unexplained move of your user page

For info: User talk:Forestmanred#User:GiantSnowman. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:42, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Article for Undeletion

Please undelete my previous article David Wilson (Scottish football manager) as he is now manager of the Gibraltar national football team and meets notability guidelines. I have already submitted a request for undeletion. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gri3720 (talkcontribs)

Hi GS, how are you?

This guy keeps on adding state leagues apps in box, even though I've explained to him the rules. Can you please take a look at this?

Thanks, MYS77 20:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

@MYS77: Sorry to butt in, but I see no explanation on that user's talk page: perhaps you've explained it to the same user at a different IP address talk, in which case please ignore me. I do see some comments via edit summary, but that isn't how we're supposed to expalin stuff to inexperienced editors making mistakes. Most newcomers don't know what an edit summary is, let alone read them or realise what's written there might apply to their editing. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:14, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@Struway2: The question is: in both pages there's already a comment saying that we should only include Brasileirão apps, so the user is disrespecting the guidelines on purpose. @GiantSnowman: Thanks, if he continues to bother I'll do this. Cheers, MYS77 14:06, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@MYS77: What "both pages"? If you mean your edit summaries, here and as linked above, I repeat: that isn't explanation. Editors, particularly inexperienced anonymous editors, don't necessarily even see page histories and edit summaries. As said above, if you have explained these guidelines on a talk page somewhere and I haven't seen it, then feel free to point it out to me. Otherwise, I think issuing a final warning for what is quite possibly genuine ignorance seems a touch OTT. And apologies to GiantSnowman for taking over his talk page :( cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@Struway2: - not a problem, seriously. GiantSnowman 14:28, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@Struway2: Dodô | years1 = 2013– | clubs1 = [[Clube Atlético Mineiro|Atlético Mineiro]] | caps1 = 10 | goals1 = 4 <!-- BRASILEIRÃO ONLY! -->. To me, this is well-explained. MYS77 14:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
@MYS77: Thank you for pointing that out. That sort of hidden note can sometimes be helpful in general. But when you're dealing with a specific editor, it takes no time at all to add a brief meaningful message of explanation to an editor's talk page, the first time you come across them editing contrary to custom. Then if they do continue, there'll be little doubt as to whether they're doing it deliberately or not. On another note, you might want to restrict your edit summaries to summarising your own edits. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:05, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Giantsnowman, I wasn't aware that I had changed either the date he started or his squad number (certainly his squad number), I think you might be confusing me with one of the mischievous users. Can you please put back in the subheads I created to make the main bulk of the copy easily navigable... It was quite rude of you to change this and it brings the page in line with other players who have spent several years with one club. Oh and why is the Daily Mail not a reliable source? Best (RedJulianG40 (talk) 10:37, 21 March 2015 (UTC))


Hello GianSnowman. For player Thievy Bifouma, he score a goal against Cape Verde in January but it is not a FIFA match. It was listed on Bifouma's goal list and also was part of national team statistics but I try to change it because it is not a FIFA match. It is even on But this person MYS77 say it doesn't matter and continues to include as if the match is FIFA international friendly. He even say that other people don't agree with what I'm doing but has decided to leave it to what I want but also to completely delete the goal from the list. In the revision history [4], you can see he says that Avoiding any further discussions with an annoying, insistent, stubborn and arrogant user. I did not do anything wrong and now this person say these things. If they disagree it's OK we can discuss but instead this person acts like this. GoalsGalore (talk) 17:52, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Danny Rose

Hi, thanks for notifying me on the edit to Danny Rose, I added up all the league games from his career history via the shakers' (Bury) official website.


Oh, sorry. I think it was strange indeed, but BBC, Soccerway and Soccerbase included him, so I thought it was correct.

Thanks, MYS77 14:39, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Already tagged. Thanks, MYS77 17:23, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
GS, can I delete these pages (User:MYS77/Joshua Warren, User:MYS77/Liam Triggs and User:MYS77/George Branford with WP:G7 too? Cheers, MYS77 20:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @MYS77: You would add {{Db-u1}} to your own subpages that you want deleted. Thanks! JMHamo (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
@JMHamo: Thanks a lot! I will do it right now. These kiddos were Pompey graduates, but never made it to the first team. Cheers, MYS77 20:58, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj disruption

Hello GS, could you please add Adnan Januzaj to your watch list as Bigjohndordoba (talk · contribs) is beginning to edit war and is generally being disruptive. I took this subject to WP:FOOTY recently and Struway confirmed what I thought too; that it's "Tabloid trivia and recentism". Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 18:51, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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A antagonist is a character, group of characters, institution, or concept that stands in, or represents, opposition against which the protagonist(s) must contend.
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Stolen article? What do you mean? Sorry Steel DoggGiant 22:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Your PROD of Cat's Eyes

Your prod here is totally inappropriate - see the article's talk page if it isn't clear. Please remember that proposed deletion is there only for uncontroversial deletion candidates. A band comprising two notable musicians with major label album releases is clearly not going to fall into that category. --Michig (talk) 19:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Gerry Sharpe edit

Thanks for your help. I have attempted to add sources - but seem to have deleted another part of the listing. Can you assist - as my attempts to untangle it are making it worse. Thanks. Research9999 (talk) 23:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Strange users

Sorry if I shouldn't be putting this here, it's just that you oversee alot of football pages and I don't know who to contact regarding these "problem" users: seems to be the same fella, making unsourced edits to the caps of players who have played for Corinthian, seems a bit strange.

User:Infoantg1, who I think might be Antoine Gounet himself, keeps persistently changing the Brentford caps of Antoine Gounet to 1, when all he appeared in for Brentford was 1 FA Cup game. Warned him, no response. Notified him that I had brought him to the attention of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, but those fellas just moved it to the archives.

Sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here! Beatpoet (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi there GS, (former) AL here,

I was doing (what I perceived as) a minor tidyup to the article's display, and unduly (it seems, since you reverted me subsequently) reinstated my previous version. Out of respect for you and your work, may this message be proof that the current version of this player's article will stand, at least as far as I am concerned (even though I still don't see the problem of having said sources as links, but if I haven't grasped that concept in nine years, I most likely never will).

Kind regards, happy week -- (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

  • Like I told you a couple of years ago if I'm not mistaken, I think refs should be newspaper articles, official club releases, etc, I treat stuff like and akin as an external link, for easy consultation of stats and other related data. Of course, what I "think" is not a WP rule, that does not make me a vandal but it is indeed a bit disruptive I admit. -- (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Adnan Januzaj

Bigjohndordoba (talk · contribs) is again adding this to Adnan Januzaj, going against consensus after multiple warnings. JMHamo (talk) 21:03, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

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GS, AL "here",

my latest work in this player has been reverted, even though I ref'd it. Can you please check if my current "effort" (relocated refs from intro - did not know they were forbidden there, news to me! - rephrased from "tremendously powerful shot" to "powerful shot" which is not POV, it's neutral info, "trallazo" is a powerful shot in English, or a "rocket" in football terminology) is wiki-acceptable? If still not, please suggest suggestions (pardon for the redundancy) and I will duly oblige.

Attentively -- (talk) 18:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Non english contributor


Me and an other user has had some issues with a user that not speek english and write with chinese signs on talkpages, keeps modifying talkpage posts and can not communicate at all. The editor has also been blocked once for edit warring and makes really obvious mistakes. What should I do? Just observe and report after every final warning or report somewhere becuase the editor is not capable of editing in english? QED237 (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

List of Malmö FF managers

Hi, I've added a comment at Talk:List of Malmö FF managers, where the use of sources is questioned. I think a third opinion may could be beneficial. Grrahnbahr (talk) 20:18, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Adrian Rodrigues

Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrix779977 (talkcontribs) 12:24, 31 March 2015 (UTC) Hi, In The page of the footballer Adrian Rodrigues, the information I writing is absolutely correct and valid. Tell me where I can send you information n which shows that the information is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hendrix779977 (talkcontribs) 12:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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Strange users 2

Sorry if I shouldn't be putting this here, it's just that you oversee alot of football pages and I don't know who to contact regarding these "problem" users: seems to be the same fella, making unsourced edits to the caps of players who have played for Corinthian, seems a bit strange.

User:Infoantg1, who I think might be Antoine Gounet himself, keeps persistently changing the Brentford caps of Antoine Gounet to 1, when all he appeared in for Brentford was 1 FA Cup game. Warned him, no response. Notified him that I had brought him to the attention of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, but those fellas just moved it to the archives.

Sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here! Beatpoet (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

The Corinthian editor is back, on Jackie Burns. Beatpoet (talk) 11:26, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Well this one dab page you made Ryan Metcalf

Might need to be csd, Ryan Metcalf, as the actor is currently on a AFD. So wanted to point that out really quick. Wgolf (talk) 02:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

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Can you have a look at this page Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: The Musical thats just been moved. I can't revert it because the user botched the original move slightly. It should really either be its original title or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (musical) but not : The Musical.Blethering Scot 18:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Didn't expect you to comment. Thanks though.Blethering Scot 18:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
The original title was Charlie and the Chocolate Factory the Musical‎ actually, however I'm happy where it is or that one up to you whether to move again as not bothered.Blethering Scot 18:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Im generally not fussed with either.Blethering Scot 18:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC)


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If hat-tricks page for Philippines should be deleted, what about List of Scotland national football team hat-tricks? AndaleCaballo (talk) 22:36, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi GS, how are you?

User:Ryan Charlton 100 and User:Baboo-Raz are sock puppets of blocked user Ryan Charlton (the first one is very obvious, only included a "100" in his name). If you check all of their edits, you'll see they're pretty much equal and in the same pages (CA Osasuna, Salisbury City F.C. and other season pages).

It's not the first time that this guy is warned about sock puppetry (he was indefinitely blocked thanks to that!)

Can you please take a look at this?

Thanks, MYS77 02:27, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! MYS77 13:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Darian MacKinnon

Hello, you reverted the edit I made to the Darian MacKinnon article the other day, where I had removed his amateur level clubs from the infobox. I would concede there is some scope for debate on the subject, so perhaps it was unwise of me to have done so without discussion. My reason for doing so was that the instructions for using the football biography infobox specify that the "clubs1" etc. parameters are for listing professional clubs the player has been with. I interpreted this to mean clubs in national senior leagues, possibly non-league professional (or semi-pro) leagues but not necessarily clubs at this sort of level which are basically 'public park' teams. I can see, however, that it could be taken to mean any adult teams of whatever standing. I think we might need to seek further opinions on this one, so I'll initiate some discussion on the WkiProject Football talk page. Cheers, Jellyman (talk) 18:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Malicious libel

This edit clearly needs to be deleted from the records for WP:BLP reasons. As an admin, please may you do so? '''tAD''' (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

On checking the IP's contributions, practically all of his edits are malicious libel and need deleting. '''tAD''' (talk) 14:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


Hello GS, hope you're well,

regarding this thread that you started (please see here, you may want to have a look in User:MYS77's page (message titled "Incredible!"), I will now message the person which is the subject of said discussion after seeing what I saw as i cleaned up Mário Felgueiras' article.

Best regards -- (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah, and please take a look at Erik Lima too, GS. He did almost the same thing (brilliant storyline, using a Soccerway profile 17 times), also naming the article to a DYK shortly after. Thanks, MYS77 15:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

More, in Roberto Firmino... -- (talk) 16:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

@MYS77: - responding here to keep it all in one place.
@Royroydeb: I do not share the concerns of our fellow editors above, however I do feel that you are adding a lot of trivial/routine information. We do not need a running commentary on a player's career - "he did this, scored that, in this minute" etc. it's just overkill. Please bear it in mind in future. GiantSnowman 17:29, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Jr. comma RfC

You're invited to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Guidance_on_commas_before_Jr._and_Sr. Dohn joe (talk) 01:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Luca Gasparotto

Hello GS, could you please delete Luca Gasparotto, I tagged it a while ago and it hasn't been touched. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 17:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

If you're blocking

the 74.105... editors on sight for block evasion, last night's one's here. The previous couple were and, for what it's worth. Daresay a range block's impractical? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:09, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Also, if you fancy giving this one a little holiday, seeing as they started again this morning after a final warning yesterday... They don't just update stats without a proper datestamp, they intersperse doing that with changing stats at random and changing players' clubs. It's the same editor as the multiply-warned, who stopped after they got a final warning: the IPs geolocate to the same place, which doesn't necessarily prove anything, but they also use the same odd phrasing as each other. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

If you will interfere this drastically with an article currently under GA review again, I will have you blocked. Thank you. Zwerg Nase (talk) 13:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi GS, can you review recent edits at the above page and at [5]. I believe there are issues relating to undue weight, use of unreliable sources, civility in edit summaries and edits that do not reflect the sources. Regards. Eldumpo (talk) 18:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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When commenting on their talk page, I just noticed you've had some run-ins with Abcmaxx as well. I'd appreciate your support in dealing with this user's attempt to force changes to WP:FPL without discussion. I'm hoping comments from a previously uninvolved editor and administrator will make it clear that undiscussed changes to that page are not okay. Also, blocking both of us (Abcmaxx and myself) for edit-warring may not be an unreasonable course of action, but I'll leave that up to you, assuming you're not too involved with them elsewhere. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:05, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Olympiacos Changes

Olympiacos last night win the championship in Greece. All player which are in the roster must be update. What is your problem?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante77782 (talkcontribs)

Could you do me a favour and permanently fully protect this template? A couple of editors have been attempting to make the same change to it for a couple of years now (it started in August 2013), and despite discussions and even an RFC, there has never been a consensus for their edits and they have repeatedly returned every few months to make the same edits. It's getting rather tiresome, so unfortunately I see full protection as the only way of forcing them into getting consensus. It's already been protected once, but they returned after it was unprotected. Cheers, Number 57 19:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure there's any use in discussing it with the parties already involved. A new RfC with further outside input would probably be preferable. I'm just sick of seeing this appear on my watchlist, and I don't think they'll stop until they've got what they want. Number 57 19:36, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, unfortunately I think the hornet's nest has been poked now, so we'll see what happens. Please do keep an eye on the template for more reverting though. Number 57 19:44, 20 April 2015 (UTC)


Hi GS, can you review AbcMaxx's recent reversions of my edits at the above article. He is mostly re-adding unreferenced information without summaries. I note in particular he has removed the comment about only adding entries that are sourced. Don't want to get involved in an edit war. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 07:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

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Stop being a nuisance

Stop trying to stop me adding refs. I get it, don't keep anything unreferenced, but if can't let me add them then what do you want me to do? Stop being a complete idiot please. I was in the process of adding refs! Thanks for your help (not) Abcmaxx (talk) 16:00, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, please can you add Tranmere's division for each season onto the stats table for this wonderfully-named midfielder. It would be especially important as if he does not leave, he will be playing in his third different league in three seasons next campaign. Thank you in advance '''tAD''' (talk) 18:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


Is this a keeper: Vincent Vanderpool Wallace? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Yes; the source indicates the player has played in 3 FIFA-sanctioned international matches. The article needs to say that though. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:22, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Could you help me to remove edit summary in this edit. It was not very nice. QED237 (talk) 17:43, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps also this edit summary which may be from the same person if you look at edit history for Billy_Mckay. Thanks in advance. QED237 (talk) 17:46, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
This edit may help prove it is the same aggressive person. QED237 (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the help. I found an other bad edit summary here, hopefully the last one. QED237 (talk) 18:12, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Nope I was wrong sorry

Well No actually he was right this time . my bad

Adnan (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to bother again but could you have a look at recent edits at this article. Unreferenced material being added back in. Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 18:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)


Gringoladomenega is back. SLBedit (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Gringoladomenega may have been fairly blocked in the past here or there, but in the articles (or two of the articles) that led to this report (Léo (footballer, born 1990) and Alan Kardec) he is 100% right, and I elaborate: 1 - the name of the article is Associação Portuguesa de Desportos, and Linense does not have stats appearing in the infobox because it's only regional appearances, not national ones; 2 - player is known as Kardec, period, not Alan Kardec, and you show that in the start of every paragraph, then "he" or "the player" suffices until the next paragraph (more or less an example could be João Vieira Pinto, yes for some he is known by all three surnames, but when we mention him in a storyline, "Pinto" suffices). Don't understand why Mr. SLB is reverting there, my two cents.

Having said that, I am only here to serve as a mediator after being contacted by Mr. Gringo (who is definitely not a vandal, even though his many blocks belie that statement), and profited by leaving my opinion above. I'm not touching those two articles with a 10-feet pole, rest assured, no warring from me.

Attentively, to all parties involved -- (talk) 00:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Agreed with Vasco there. Gringo isn't wrong in these cases, and SLB is reverting him for nothing. Cheers, MYS77 03:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm not reverting "him" for nothing. The guy (BenjaWF, Gringoladomenega) wants to change dates in Alan Kardec by force. SLBedit (talk) 17:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
@SLBedit: - I need more than that I am afraid, you would need to open a WP:SPI with evidence to show that this is the same editor (WP:DUCK) - a CheckUser will not link a named account to an IP address. @EdJohnston:, who blocked Gringoladomenega in the first place, might be able to assist further. GiantSnowman 11:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
I won't take any action here unless GiantSnowman recommends it. Technically, User:Gringoladomenega is still blocked. Past experience suggests he may get in trouble again through edit warring. I suppose we can wait and see. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 29 April 2015 (UTC)


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Article You Deleted Re-appears

This article (Ryder Ripps) you deleted has re-appeared. I've posted some more notes on it here: User_talk:Jo