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List of CMs of TN[edit]

A couple of quick observations - For the first few chief ministers, instead of the party, you have the # which when clicked, takes me to the main page of WP. You may want to correct that. Also, one major objection is that the state became TN only in 1953 or after that. Before that, it was the Madras State and comprised large parts of Andhra Pradesh. You may want to add a disclaimer to that effect. Good work!! btw, do ping me if u r ready for rfa - I'd take abt a week to draft it. --Gurubrahma 08:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Anwar[edit]

Hi Ganesh - can you please have a look at user talk:Gurubrahma#Need your advice? We're trying to address the issues created by user:Anwar saadat's behavior, and would greatly appreciate your input. Rama's Arrow 04:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list[edit]

It needs a legend for the colours, the text needs a copyedit, incumbents who enjoyed two terms need the dates of both terms, Kurma Venkata Reddy Naidu: no party? A photo of a CM if possible. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hinduism[edit]

can you shrink or trim this template?--Dangerous-Boy 22:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks better than it did before. can you do the same for Template:Yoga?--Dangerous-Boy 07:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. By the way, have you checked out Wikipedia:Hinduism-related topics notice board?--Dangerous-Boy 18:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

India map[edit]

Just to let You know that I added a map of Rajasthan inspired by your Gujarat map. I'm currently trying to fill a huge hole on the norwegian (:no) wikipedia (the different states of India). I have added no:Gujarat and are planning no:Rajasthan. Did not like the old map. :-) Haros 22:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

I've been here for a bit, but my anemic edit history is a shame :) Kingsley2.com 00:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CM list[edit]

The state of Tamil Nadu was not formed until 1968; the list includes Chief Ministers of Madras Presidency, a province of British India, and those of Madras State, which was formed after Indian independence in 1947, comprising of present day Tamil Nadu and parts of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Kerala.

I see a major objection here: Why list incumbents who never held the portfolio "Chief Minister of 'Tamil Nadu"? You'd have to justify the inclusion by using cogent phrases or have them removed.
Non-party: seems odd. Unafflilated?
Comment: 2 more tables can be added: A table on the CMs enjoying the most terms in office (descending), and parties enjoying the most terms in office. This would help clinch votes on the FLC.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 16:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BJP Image[edit]

Thanks for informing me of my error. I was incorrectly informed of the nature of the image by the website.

Bmaganti 22:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ajith salary proof:[edit]

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-articles/movies-01/01-05-06-ajith-birthday.html

Nan Kadavul is dropped. So please remove it:

http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movie-news/may-06-04/26-05-06-ajith.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.164.255.1 (talk • contribs)

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List of Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu[edit]

MGR pic[edit]

That pic was removed by OrphanBot when fair use was not being claimed. OrphanBot won't remove the pic now since it is not orphaned and it has a fair use rationale. Note that all the other pics are under fair use as well. -- Paddu 20:34, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can assure you all the pics are fair use and in case WP:FL wants to reduce the no. of such pics all the pics would be treated similarly and any number among them might have to go. Probably which pics should remain can be decided at the time of listing on WP:FL, or probably later in the talk page, where more people than you and me can have a look. Thanks! -- Paddu 20:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As per [1], when OrphanBot removed the pic from M. G. Ramachandran, the licencing was {{somewebsite}}, so nothing surprising about what OrphanBot did! -- Paddu

Blank spaces[edit]

I suppose (from the various uses of Template:clr (talk · links · edit)) the blank spaces are considered better than the images extending to following sections which causes headings, edit section links and even normal text to be formatted haphazardly. The only way out of having blank space is to write some more text in place of the {{clr}}. -- Paddu

Now I understood the problem. In the monobook skin the font size is too small (which is one of the reasons I use the classic skin) so there are bound to be huge blank spaces created by {{clr}} or {{-}}. If you feel the overlap of images with tables/headings/etc. in small browsers and in classic skin is unimportant you can remove my {{clr}}s and format appropriately for the monobook skin since that is what most readers (being anonymous non-writers) would see. -- Paddu 16:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Anwar[edit]

Hi Ganesh - what do you advise we do? That he is blatantly refusing to reform his own talkpage is a grave violation of WP:NPA itself. I'm prepared to go the distance. Rama's Arrow 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more concerned about this fellow's blatant refusal to do the honors himself. He's asking for it... Rama's Arrow 23:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that you have a talk with him. Since you gave him a barnstar, you might get some response. Rama's Arrow 23:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indian current events[edit]

Hello Joturner, Not sure why you have merged the Indian currents events with the Pakistan even after the consensus did not indicate an unanimous vote of support. Please explain on my talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, It was an archive page of the news displayed on the Portal:India news section. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there was no unanimous support, but that unanimous support is not needed to achieve consensus. However, it appeared as though there was a general okay to merge several of the regional current events articles on the merge's discussion page (which, by the way, has been up for a few weeks now). Considering that the page for current events in Pakistan hasn't been updated since March, it only made sense to merge the two related articles into one section. The inclusiveness of all South Asian nations into one article will also allow for events from Bangladesh and Nepal, for example, to be included on one of the regional events pages. Could you please explain the problem you have with the merge? Of course, the Current events in South Asia page needs to cleaned up to reflect the change, so overlook that for now. As the page will still contain past current events for India, is it really a significant problem for Portal:India and Portal:Pakistan. I don't think it's a big deal, but perhaps you disagree. joturn e r 04:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of TN CMs[edit]

Great work, Ganesh. Will reply in detail later. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine. Only thing that needs to be done is to lay out the images, maps, and timelines properly. It's a minor issue though. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey sorry for not replying. Was busy with other things on the wiki. I think that others have chipped in and it is in a good enough shape that there isn't much that is wrong at a superficial level. I can have a deeper look only later. — Ravikiran 07:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blnguyen's RfA[edit]

File:Atlanticpuffin4.jpg

Hello Ganesh. Thank you for your strong support and tallying at request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation. As well as that, a thanks for helping to clean up Ajith Kumar. Should you need help with admin powers, feel free to ask me - and of course, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. Of course, I look forward to working with you in the future, and to your own impending RfA, for which I am anticipating records . Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 08:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indian current events[edit]

Hello Joturner, Not sure why you have merged the Indian currents events with the Pakistan even after the consensus did not indicate an unanimous vote of support. Please explain on my talk page. - Ganeshk (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, It was an archive page of the news displayed on the Portal:India news section. - Ganeshk (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there was no unanimous support, but that unanimous support is not needed to achieve consensus. However, it appeared as though there was a general okay to merge several of the regional current events articles on the merge's discussion page (which, by the way, has been up for a few weeks now). Considering that the page for current events in Pakistan hasn't been updated since March, it only made sense to merge the two related articles into one section. The inclusiveness of all South Asian nations into one article will also allow for events from Bangladesh and Nepal, for example, to be included on one of the regional events pages. Could you please explain the problem you have with the merge? Of course, the Current events in South Asia page needs to cleaned up to reflect the change, so overlook that for now. As the page will still contain past current events for India, is it really a significant problem for Portal:India and Portal:Pakistan. I don't think it's a big deal, but perhaps you disagree. joturn e r 04:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I resplit the articles back into two different articles, one for Pakistan and one for India. joturn e r 15:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Courts mixup[edit]

You know what, I got reminded of my edit when I was about to sleep last night and I lay restless for quite a while having known the mistake. Glad you fixed it. :-) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I'm eagerly waiting for you to nominate List of Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu at WP:FLC. Please do the honours. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 12:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot[edit]

They look much better now. Thanks a lot. BTW, good work on the list of chief ministers. I will try and do something like that for gujarat too. Your list will help a lot of other lists. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is a nice idea. I will try and help. Another idea I had was a series of good articles (if not FAs) on the Nehru-Gandhi family. Each member has played an enormous role in Indian politics. I got this idea when I saw a show recently on the history channel. - Aksi_great (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...[edit]

...for this, just noticed. btw, it is June already, what say? --Gurubrahma 20:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've got m@il. --Gurubrahma 17:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Political ideology[edit]

Ganesh, I initially had doubts if this wasn't the right place for that; something like Politics in Tamil Nadu would be a good choice. But, since you showed a precedent, we can add that here. Now, the problem remaining is the lack of a reliable source; it's purely my original research now. Also, it essentially will be biased. Give me links if you get any sources. Perhaps try Google Scholar? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly, the two articles were written by people with known strong political leanings. We can only take the factual part from them. Let's look for some neutral, non-partisan sources. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 08:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA[edit]

Hi, your admin nom is here. Just see if my nom is ok - if it requires copyedit, do it yourself. If it requires some additions or deletions, do let me know. I should be online from 1530UTC to 1830UTC with some breaks in between. Sign the nom, answer the questions and add it to WP:RFA after changing the time - btw, your model answers are perfect - you may want to expand on q.1. e.g. You have made some 300 reverts, so rollback wd be useful etc. Do answer the questions and accept the nom in one edit if possible; this shd not be difficult as you already have the answers on your user sub-page. I have not yet voted as I want to see a lot of "beating the nominator" support votes. I have been impressed with your work and I believe that you are a great asset to WP. Please read Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/nominate for instructions about accepting the nom etc. --Gurubrahma 14:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5 votes already, great!! thanks a ton for fixing the code, I dunno why it became fully yellow, had an edit-conflict trying to fix it. --Gurubrahma 15:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Links for Wikipedians interested in Hinduism content[edit]

Do you think you could make a Links for Wikipedians interested in Hidnuism content like there is for India?--Dangerous-Boy 19:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AP Images[edit]

Thanks for the tip about Wikimedia commons. I have uploaded the maps to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh and also http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Andhra_Pradesh

Bmaganti 03:02, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Muslim politicians[edit]

ISn't this pov? The Hindu politicians cat was deleted for POV.--Dangerous-Boy 19:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TN CM List[edit]

Why don't you simply untag that citation needed tag? Did anyone specifically asked for that citation? You can untag some of the Justice party citations (presently with superscript 6) - you need not cite everybody, I guess. And also untag that citation needed from KVE Naidu. It's a naughty suggestion, so that when you untag, KVR Naidu does not seem to be the odd man out, with no citation, while all others have citation. You can add citation randomly on that particular list, say, for example, CM no. 1, 4 and 6. In that case, it would appear as if the rest does not require a citation, taken for granted. On the other hand, if you cite everyone but him, Naidu is an eye-catching odd man! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 06:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the references related to the political ideologies that we were discussing. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 11:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.

The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.

For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.

Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.

When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.

Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.

For more information/suggestions/criticisms, please contact any one of the administrators of Hindi wiki here, preferably en:User:Magicalsaumy.
This page can also be found here.

Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 00:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it seems (probably today!) from your userboxes that you don't speak Hindi. Kindly ignore this message, then. Gook luck for your adminshipCygnus_hansa 17:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Your message/mail template[edit]

Just wanted to let you know that I shamelessly copied the message/mail template from your userpage. Thanks, and hope you don't mind. :-) - Cribananda 05:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your message[edit]

Ganesh, I had missed your message. Let me see try to reword that sentence and add something on what happens in the event of a vacancy. I think, there's precedent in MGR's death. Can you try to incorporate the 1950 change in reporting structure pointed out by Anwar? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 13:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correct link[edit]

Nope, the link I provided is correct - the thread starts with Anwar's complaint but other editors feel that he is wrong. The link that you have given is of more recent vintage, where Rama's Arrow tried to get the attention of admins to the fact that Anwar's talkpage still remained the same. --Gurubrahma 17:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the info[edit]

Thanks.. have been busy.. so taking shortcuts...but will try...Chirag 22:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FARC[edit]

Oh sorry...I can't imagine how I made that mistake...must be a bit tired, OK I'll look at the Hinduism page now. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Yay! my first barnstar, feels good Thanks --^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 15:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject India Maps[edit]

Hi! I invite you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject India Maps. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]