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Question[edit]

Durova, would you be open to discussion on the MZM RfA? I have no desire to "badger", but if you are open to discussion I would enjoy the conversation. — Ched :  ?  00:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not sure what there is to discuss. I'm usually slow to form an opinion, firm (but not stubborn) about keeping it. Is there relevant evidence I'm unaware of? The main problem is communication skills, which seldom resolve at the swift interim since he walked away from the tools. Check the Soxred report: I've opposed at RFA less than 10% of the time. So if you have something, do tell, but unless it's seriously eye-opening don't expect me to be easy to persuade. Time has more silver on its tongue. Durova306 00:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Durova, is the references I added to Kitsuné Maison Compilation 8 enough? I mean they are independent from the label and everything... so, what do you think? --Garnesson (talk) 13:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Durova, somewhat bemused by your suggestion that Screenonline links are somehow 'spam' or 'advertising'. You may not know that Screenonline is a non-profit website run by the British Film Institute, the organisation charged with presiding over Britain's film and TV heritage. The site is heavily used across UK education, and widely recognised as an authoritative source - often a primary source - on the history of British film and television (indeed a source frequently cited - and on occasion plagiarised - in Wiki entries), and offers expert and substantial contextualisation as well as, for users in UK educational establishments or public libraries, hundreds of hours of moving image material. As such it represents an excellent resource for Wiki visitors who wish to explore a subject in greater depth - rather more so, I would say, than IMDB or AllMovie, which are routinely linked to from Wiki film entries.

I'm a fan and regular Wikipedia user, and contribute entries myself, and I'm well aware of Wiki's strengths, but also of its weaknesses. Wiki is strong - or at least can be - on factual information, but understandably and necessarily limited on subjective but authoritative assessment or analysis. Unless you believe there's no place on WP for linking to informed, intelligent analysis elsewhere, I hope you'd acknowledge that it's worthwhile to refer visitors to sites where such trustworthy content exists.

If you look elsewhere on my discussion page, you'll see that your fellow editor Steve Crook, an acknowledged expert on British cinema actually created the tool to enable easy addition of these links in recognition of Screenonline's value to Wiki users. Can I therefore respectfully ask that you reconsider your position? -- Cheesemite (talk) 16:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Somewhat bemused by your out of section post which either hadn't read the existing discussion about your edits or ignored it. Nowhere did I suggest that the site itself is not reliable. It's your behavior that's the problem. For several months you did nothing other than add one particular site as an external link to a large number of articles. That is spamming. See WP:SPAM. You are very welcome to expand the articles and use that site as a reference. But that wasn't what you were doing. Durova362 16:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image Mount Aso Naka dake[edit]

Mount Aso Naka dake
Mount Aso Naka dake


Would you be interested in helping me get the image to featured images on Wikimedia commons as per Franamax recommendation? Igor Berger (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It'd stand a better chance at English Wikipedia FPC, due to encyclopedic value. A bit removed from the work I typically do: try Wikipedia:Picture peer review first. Durova306 19:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That sounds good. But how I go about getting the review? Do I feel it out myself or do I need someone to nominate the picture? I guess I should ask Franamax if he/she would nominate my pic? Igor Berger (talk) 19:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You put it up yourself, watch the reviews, and decide whether to take it to FPC. Durova306 20:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Mount Aso Naka dake Igor Berger (talk) 20:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:The Black sheep illustrated by William Wallace Denslow.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thankee. :) Durova306 03:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Walter Johnson and Calvin Coolidge[edit]

Time to update that count. :)

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Walter Johnson and Calvin Coolidge shake hands FINAL.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.

I got that message because I was the nom, but you definitely deserve a big giant hunk of credit. Staxringold talkcontribs 13:22, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ty :) Durova307 14:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alright, I chose this one[edit]

User_talk:Mitchazenia#award Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Once in a blue moon[edit]

Regarding

Once in a blue moon somebody who has no hands-on experience with this work develops very strange ideas about it, usually declaring very loudly that what we're doing is wrong and attempting to dictate a specific set of parameters that don't work. It's been several months since the last so perhaps we were due. This is the first occasion it's landed at Jimbo's user talk. Apologies if the response isn't quite on the ball; someone pinged me as soon as I logged on this morning. Am composing this while drowning in the first cup of morning coffee.

from Jimbo's page, I would like to respond here rather than there to avoid broad advertisement of what some might perceive as a developing conflict between us. I first need to explain that I am not "somebody who has no hands-on experience with this work" and then you can tell me what you think those strange ideas are. I have been working from the commercial printing side of this issue since really the late seventies, when I first worked as a night production manager at The Observer, the student daily at the University of Notre Dame. I made a few cropping decisions, nothing major and of course all the work was done through the use of a large production camera with the copyboard at the lens end and the exposure system film holder within the darkroom. I tried briefly to find an article or image to better describe one but you probably understand the equipment I am discussing. Over the course of the following thirty years I have progressed from using those type of large cameras well into the nineties to using Photoshop on the Macintosh starting in the eighties until now, and I also have begun working with GIMP. My work included making many of the decisions you discuss at Jimbo's page about exposure, scratches and the like with both monochrome and color images. I have an expert level understanding of the work involved in restoration with years of hands-on experience. Within the past ten years I have actually worked with art directors at major Boston advertising agencies (Arnold Worldwide, Hill Holliday) on several projects involving nationally published images for products including Volkswagen, Acushnet Company, John Hancock Insurance, you get the idea. I just need for you to understand that I am appreciative of your work on a professional level and have done quite a bit of it myself when working with client markups of modern images. I could go into further detail if needed. Bottom line: I know that much more than a few minutes of passing an image through a few preset filters is involved.

Regarding specifically your statement "attempting to dictate a specific set of parameters", I don't think that is a fair assessment of what I was doing by asking for Jimmy's opinion and I disclaimed anything outside of wanting the community to establish a strong opinion as a whole. I would very much like to work with you to help establish something that will nip in the bud an effort to promote work similar to what was done at the John Quincy Adams page, which I linked and am debating here. I view your efforts as degrees of magnitude superior to what I first saw at the JQA page. The image was fundamentally altered in tone, exposure, contrast, detail, and finally to my eye appears almost like an engraving rather than a photograph. If all that happens currently is, editor X decides a historic photograph is too scratchy and sends it over to the Commons Graphic Lab School where anyone can pick it up and do what they will to "enhance" or "clean" an image, we're in for a load of good intentions turned into bad results. Now I did link to the discussion of the FPC which Shoemaker is handling, but he isn't doing the actual restoration. That discussion is much more in line with what I would like to see before any work is even attempted. Again I stress a commitment to work with you not only on the establishment of principles but also from time to time on the work itself, offering my talents where needed. I am going to mention this response in a brief note at Jimbo's page, and look forward to your response to my offer here. Sswonk (talk) 21:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your initial post stated: "I will say that my opinion is that no Photoshopping or Gimping should be done to these historic photographs outside of possibly adjusting the levels a small amount to allow for clearer display on a computer display if an image is too dark to be easily viewed on such a device." Actually a straightforward levels adjustment can introduce problems to an otherwise unedited original. Any mounting background, damage, or subsequent physical alteration (such as writing on a print) affects the 0 to 255 brightness distribution upon which a levels adjustment is based. If discoloration has occurred, levels alteration usually gives the appearance of enhancing the discoloration. Some of the worst image edits at Wikipedia have been levels changes. Contact me privately for examples. Histogram alteration is a powerful tool. Your suggestion to permit that and disallow everything else would generate--well--the results would be amusing in an abstract sense. ;) Durova308 22:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No doubt, the foot in mouth and train left the station defense is inadequate but I was thinking Jimbo would understand what I meant and that was an attempt to describe something in layman's terms. Bad attempt. Professionally "levels" is indeed a third-rail of image manipulation, so suffice to say I am glad no one thinks Jimbo's talk is policy. I hope we can get past that error quickly, I'll contact you in a minute. Sswonk (talk) 22:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
With regard to the John Quincy Adams daguerrotype, I suspect the Library of Congress notes are incomplete and their image is a second generation duplicate rather than a scan from the original daguerrotype. Have given it a few close looks because of its historic importance, but there wasn't much that could be done with it. Ended up restoring this version intead, and getting this from it. Sad thing is, even when I explain in advance that the crop removed a librarian's notes and the mounting card, a steady trickle of comments wonder whether the writing on the sides was part of the original artist's intention. It's legible; you decide. ;) Durova308 22:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I took some time last night to attempt to clean up the text that has been added regarding early photographs of JQA both on en:wikipedia and Commons. I haven't yet tackled any other language pages that may link to the associated files. Here is the background: one scan on Commons was originally labeled[1] as "The first-ever photograph (daguerreotype) of an American President, taken after his presidency in 1848". This was later challenged and the history reveals the result was the placement of a {{fact disputed}} tag on the Commons page and an unresolved discussion of the dispute. I had read somewhere long before that JQA was the first president photographed and decided last night to look into the fact. Unfortunately, performing Google searches such as >> "John Quincy Adams" first president photographed and variations revealed a list dominated by collections of unsourced trivia pages, school "fun facts" pages and worse, mirrors of Wikipedia. Searching only within Google books at least revealed several mentions of a sitting in 1843, so narrowing the search down to pages with that year and the word "earliest" finally brought me to this well sourced history. The text of the magazine article details that the first president photographed was William Henry Harrison on his inaugural day in 1841, but that the image is lost. According to several book sources citing his diary, Adams, while a congressman following his presidency, was photographed on several occasions in 1843 and the "earliest known photograph of a president of the United States is a faint and scratched daguerreotype" now in the National Portrait Gallery, Smithsonian Institution.(direct URL to image not possible, one additional click on JQA name needed. Using those two sources and a comment you made elsewhere about the process involved, I made edits to the John Quincy Adams page and the summary information at two Commons images, one of which still listed a later 1843 image by Philip Haas: File:John_Quincy_Adams_1824.jpg and File:John_Quincy_Adams.JPG. The second of those had still listed the image as "The First Photograph of a President of the United States of America", without a disputed tag on the description page. Can you please check my edits to those three pages, John Quincy Adams, File:John_Quincy_Adams_1824.jpg and File:John_Quincy_Adams.JPG for accuracy and prose, and remove the disputed tag from the first image if it is now correct (see the file talk page)? The previous texts unfortunately were all incorrect and mirrored, and are likely in use across multiple projects. I am hoping the pages are now at least accurate, although the odd title of File:John_Quincy_Adams_1824.jpg should probably be changed as well, and I am not sure how that will affect linking pages. The commonly mentioned trivia item, "The first president photographed was John Quincy Adams", appears to be wrong based on the William Henry Harrison anecdote (with citation in the PDF), yet it is found in several places on the internet, which likely added to the confusion here in the first place. Sswonk (talk) 13:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Question: There is a lot of data and linking above which concerns the now disproved statement "The first president photographed was John Quincy Adams", and I made edits and provided sources for several changes on Commons and en:wikipedia. The one edit I really want to confirm is shown here, where I changed the infobox photo caption from "Daguerreotype of John Quincy Adams in 1847 or 1848, by Mathew Brady" to "Glass collodion negative copy c. 1860 of a daguerreotype of John Quincy Adams in 1847 or 1848, attributed to Mathew Brady" (edited to lowercase "D" for "daguerreotype" since diff). I'm still not entirely sure that is correct, you have commented on the process and attribution previously so: is the second caption text correct, or would you phrase it differently? I'm hoping we can establish a completely accurate and definitive description of this image for use as a good caption for all projects where it is used. The check usage toolserver was down when I wrote this but I seem to remember that the image is used on several wikis. Thanks – Sswonk (talk) 17:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow, you've certainly done a lot of hard work on this captioning! I suspect it's rephotography with manual retouching added. This makes sense in context: there would have been a market for reproductions of Adams's portrait and the options were limited when the original was a daguerrotype. There was a substantial loss of quality (which is evident at high resolution), so manual retouching would have attempted to reconstruct important detail. Adams was an important enough subject to merit the extra effort, but early retouching often looks crude. One of the reasons I've steered clear of this matter is because it would definitely cross the NOR line to state those inferences in article space. The alternative--if you're dedicated enough--would be to contact the LOC staff and the Smithsonian staff to investigate this, and then if it seems to check out seek publication at an offsite venue. Am reminded of this example. Durova312 18:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Durova,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Il Ballo2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 5, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-05. howcheng {chat} 05:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A note of appreciation[edit]

I like WP:EARTH and WP:TURNIP; very sensible and helpful. Thanks for writing them. :) SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ditto. Short, concise, insightful. Good work! -Pete (talk) 19:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Golly, thanks. :) Durova308 19:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Grant of arms2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 08:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. :) Durova308 13:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Ty Cobb sliding2-edit1.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You get one too since you did great work restoring this :) Makeemlighter (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks very much. :) Durova310 15:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm confused.[edit]

I understand the importance of what you describe here, but I am confused about how it applies to the discussion at hand and/or if it was directed at me specifically for some reason or was just a general statement being appended to the thread.

I don't believe that I have advocated for anything that violates the concerns you have raised. Do you believe that I have somehow? --GoRight (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not to the best of my knowledge, no. Haven't been following the details of your recent dispute. There are two types of pitfalls to avoid:
  • Editors who have justifiable reason to restore or proxy make it convenient to do so by altering policy in ways that weaken the safeguards against abuse.
  • Editors who have a strong POV on a controversial topic leverage strict policy language in the hope of precipitating additional sitebans and gaining a monopoly over editorial POV.
Somewhere in between there is a happy medium where minority views are represented fairly and malicious abuse is minimized. The best compromise I've found in four years as a Wikipedian is advance public notice. The inconvenience for the editor who wishes to do a legitimate proxy is much less than dealing with the fallout after a matter goes haywire. Durova310 17:27, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK, thanks. --GoRight (talk) 17:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Video game special edition triple crown[edit]

Hi, just following up on a previous discussion about a special editiion triple crown for the WikiProject Video games. Since the last discussion, three more VG project members have earned triple crowns: Drilnoth, Nomader, and myself.

Just out of curiosity, do you create the image used or is that something we're responsible for? The only reason I'm asking is because we have a number of editors that I'm sure would jump for the opportunity to create it, myself included. :-p Let me know at your earliest convenience. Thank you. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC))Reply[reply]

An image you might be interested in...[edit]

Hi, Durova. It was suggested to me that this image might be worth trying to restore and nominate for Featured Picture, and I immediately thought of your excellent image work. Are you at all interested in working your restoration magic? If not, that's fine too, I just thought I'd ask. Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 00:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

contact[edit]

Yes, I had disabled my email following an unwanted mail incident. You can use it now if you want (I'd rather not post it publicly on wiki, even though it's not hard to find >__>;;). Circeus (talk) 00:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

4 FPs[edit]

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Midas gold2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 08:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You should have got these a month ago, but someone botched the closings. Anyway, better late than never... BTW, feel free to check and adjust how I've categorised them as it was a bit of rush job, as cleaning up after someone else can be. --jjron (talk) 08:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New page patrol[edit]

Hi, it looks like you're (like me) on newpage patrol tonight -- if so, please remember to patrol each page by clicking the "Mark this page as patrolled" link in the lower right-hand corner. Makes it easier to avoid duplicating effort. :-) Thanks! Tim Pierce (talk) 02:38, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Howdy. Just wanted to leave you a note letting you know I've removed your PROD tag from the article as it recently survived an AFD [4]. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 16:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It survived? Heavens...well okay if you say so. Durova311 16:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My removal of the tag was purely procedural and in no way an endorsement of the article's existence. If you would like to AfD it again I certainly wouldn't object (though I do like to think I've cleaned it up some). Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 00:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No need; just something that turned up on the back end of new pages patrol. While Dragonfire is taking a break it's an area that needs help. Durova311 01:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Removal of PROD from Tricephalous (comics)[edit]

Hello Durova, this is an automated message from SDPatrolBot to inform you the PROD template you added to Tricephalous (comics) has been removed. It was removed by Rtkat3 with the following edit summary '(no edit summary)'. Please consider discussing your concerns with Rtkat3 before pursuing deletion further yourself. If you still think the article should be deleted after communicating with the 'dePRODer,' you may want to take part in the article's current AfD. Thank you, SDPatrolBot (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2009 (UTC) (Learn how to opt out of these messages)Reply[reply]

Tricepalous seems to be important in the Mole Man's plot in his appearance. Besides, Tricephalous is going to appear in The Super Hero Squad Show. Perhaps it can be rewritten in your own words. I added a discussion page for any objections for AFD. Rtkat3 (talk) 7:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

If reliable third party reviews discuss Tricephalous as important then that would probably establish notability. For an example of a notable fictional character, see Martha Logan which is a good article. Unfortunately I will be unable to assist you in the improvement drive for your article; came across it while patrolling the back end of new page creations. Wikipedia has less than one day lead time on that right now and the most active editor in that area is taking a well deserved break. If the article improves I'll gladly withdraw the nomination though. Best wishes, Durova311 00:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Digital Restoration[edit]

Hey their Durova, I saw your offer at WT:CUP about learning about how to restore historical images, and if you have the time, I would be love to learn how to be able restore historical images. Thanks and All the Best, Mifter (talk) 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wonderful. The best online client for coaching image restoration seems to be Skype. It's very good for file transfers and it supports both text and voice chats. If that works for you too then contact me offsite for my Skype ID. Will be glad to get you started with beginner projects. Best regards, Durova311 00:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy deletion of Vishal (name) for blatant copyright infringement[edit]

Could I see the notice of where Vishal (name) was copied from please? I'm quite willing to believe the deletion is correct as I copied it from Vishal when I turned Vishal into a disambiguation page. However the article disappeared very quickly before I had any chance to see what was being complained about and a quick scan on the web didn't turn up anything for me. Thanks. Dmcq (talk) 13:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

By the way what's the point of the message about hangon in the message I was given? I obviously would not have had the slightest chance to do that. Dmcq (talk)
I've found where it was alleged to have come from http://www.avashya.com/entity/profile/vishal/, and it looks to me like that was a copy of an earlier version of the Vishal article because it has words in it linked to wikipedia. So yes I'd like to dispute the removal. Dmcq (talk) 13:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will ask User:Jclemens who deleted the page to go and undelete it again. Dmcq (talk) 13:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It looked a bit questionable so I copy/pasted a paragraph into a Google search. If memory serves, that looked like a non-mirror exact match. Durova312 13:54, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The header at that site might have been a giveaway for you. It said 'About Vishal' with the Vishal leading to the original wikipedia article. Dmcq (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah. Was comparing the post date of that site to the creation of the WP article; hadn't considered that the new article could have been branched off from a previous article. If that checks out with the page histories then I withdraw any complaint against the page. Consider yourself welcome do show this post to any administrator. Would be perfectly valid restore. Durova312 16:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All restored thanks. Dmcq (talk) 12:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just an FYI, Shoemaker asked for something that could only be found in your archives for this photo. Staxringold talkcontribs 14:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the heads up; I'll have a look. Probably that was uploaded and nominated before Commons started accepting TIFF files. Durova312 16:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Durova,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy Onassis2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 12, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-12. howcheng {chat} 00:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Happy Labor Day![edit]

Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A NobodyMy talk 03:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nominations open for the Military history WikiProject coordinator election[edit]

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process has started; to elect the coordinators to serve for the next six months. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 (UTC) on 12 September!
Many thanks,  Roger Davies talk 04:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Ed Walsh portrait 1911.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 07:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nam Co, Tibet[edit]

Hi. I recently uploaded File:NamTso scene.jpg. I believe it is a stunning image. Could you tell me whether this would stand a FPC chance? Himalayan 18:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lovely, but probably not FP material. A touch small; looks processed. Reviewers would probably take it to task. Durova312 20:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:NYU library2 crop.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 07:18, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Geocities site link removal[edit]

Can you please explain why links to this site are removed ? The article linked to contains very many valid points regarding control tables (although I dont necessarily agree with all of them)ken (talk) 07:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hard to answer without knowing which article you're referring to. Generally speaking, there are very few situations where Geocities sites satisfy WP:RS. Durova312 17:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clickteam articles[edit]

I seconded some of your prods, but I notice that one of the articles (The Games Factory) was redirected by another editor after your prod. I wonder if that might not be the simplest solution for all of them. If the product articles were redirected to the company article, then the TfD for the products template would be a slam-dunk. --RL0919 (talk) 19:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sounds like a great solution. Would you like to implement it? Durova314 19:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think I can handle that, sure. --RL0919 (talk) 19:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All done. Some of the material from the product articles could probably be merged into the company article, but it isn't really an interest area of mine so I'm going to leave it at redirecting for now. --RL0919 (talk) 20:19, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks very much for your help. Durova314 20:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Owusu-Ankomah[edit]

I've removed the speedy deletion tag from the artist Owusu-Ankomah. The article now includes notable 3rd party references from major international art galleries and publishers.Ackees (talk) 08:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually that was a prod, not a speedy. Thanks very much for your improvements. Looks much better. Durova314 18:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Content question[edit]

Hi there! I'm prepping Trans-Alaska Pipeline System for a run at FAC and was wondering if you might have a minute or two to take a look and let me know if you have any questions about the subject that aren't answered by the article. Since so much has been written about it, I'm particularly concerned about undue weight and providing enough information about different aspects of the topic. It's kind of like colorbalancing a photo. Well, it's not like that at all, but you get the idea. Any comments or questions you have would be helpful. Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Train station with train and coal depot by Gustave Le Gray1.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 08:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Dear Durova, with regards to your suggestion we delete the Naked Heart Foundation page I wrote. I have added a couple of references to the Daily Telegraph and to the Observer (major UK broadhseet papers). Is this sufficent? If so would you remove the delete tag or let me know so that I can? If it is not Ok then let me know and I will look for more. Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 09:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Yes, that's fine. I hate to prod that type of article, but sometimes it's necessary. No time to undertake expansions on the back end of new pages patrol when the margin is just a couple of hours. Kudos to your fine work. :) Durova314 18:50, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many thanks (Msrasnw (talk) 19:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Skype[edit]

Just an FYI I won't be on Skype for a couple days because, as I feared, I went over my bandwidth limit and thus the connection in my room will be severely choked for a couple days. Staxringold talkcontribs 17:28, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ouch! Yes, bandwidth issues can be serious. Have you considered contacting your provider and informing them what your bandwidth use is for? Most bandwidth limitations get imposed to control the provider's costs of transmitting unsavory material. If you talk one-on-one with the right person and show them your growing portfolio, you might be able to negotiate an exception. Make sure they understand this is unpaid volunteer work for an educational nonprofit. And good luck! Durova314 18:48, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Nah, it's the UITS guys at UConn, not a paid service provider. Plus a lot of the consumption was from playing games (not Wiki work), and it'll cool down in a couple days (my total for 7 days cannot exceed 10 GB, I just barely went over that last night, so I'm choked until my 7 day total drops back to 7 GB or less, probably on Sunday). Staxringold talkcontribs 19:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oh, BTW, if you have any FPCs you're thinking about nominate them NOW. By my count any current nomination will be right in the running for #2000. It all depends how a couple that are up right now shake out. Staxringold talkcontribs 19:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh golly, I do. Am heading out the door to give blood at this instant. Will upload upon return. Durova315 19:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Samuel Taylor Coleridge at age 42.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 08:34, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
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Centijimbos[edit]

Ha ha I beat you :-) William M. Connolley (talk) 13:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Small request[edit]

Hey Durova! You have both fancier tools than I (with Photoshop) and better skills, any chance you could give the image at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Tiger Woods a quick run through any anti-noise filter you might have? Thanks! Staxringold talkcontribs 14:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Am really not the greatest at denoising. It's an art: you always lose detail. Requires a few kicks and tweaks to optimize. Ask one of the digitial photographers; they're a lot more practiced at it. Durova315 16:37, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Centijimbos[edit]

Thank you so much for posting that link on Jimbo's talk page. Your blog is great, nice to read about TIFF support and that watcher tool is a great deal of fun (I'm at aprox. 1.3 centijimbos). Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 23:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're welcome, and thank you for expressing the feedback. BTW your centijimbo rating just rose by 1/19th of a point. ;) Durova317 23:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey Durova, you should make a userbox for this! :) My userpage is worth 3.6 centijimbos. :) iMatthew talk at 23:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If MZMcBride can be persuaded to incorporate cj units into userspace checks at his tool, someone could probably write a script to transclude to a userbox? Durova317 23:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

iMatthew, Durova318 04:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC) User:Jake Wartenberg/centijimboReply[reply]

Heh! Wouldn't "the userpage is worth X centijimbos" sound better? :) iMatthew talk at 11:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your kind message. Life goes on; I am coping the best I can. It's what she wanted me to do. DS (talk) 12:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good for you. Things got down to 2 hours last evening so I left Photoshop to bring the back end to a 14 hour window. You really do awesome work here; a lot of people appreciate it. Am so glad you're returning. :) It makes a difference. Durova318 15:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Image restoration[edit]

Out of curiosity, how hard is it to learn how to restore images? Do you need any special skills or specific computer programs? And do you know where I could find a place to read up on the process? TomStar81 (Talk) 06:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Anyone who's computer literate can do the basics and collaborate on an easy restoration. Some restorations are simple, others very difficult. Helps to have an experienced person screen material and coach. Photoshop is great if you already have it, GIMP is free if you don't. Very few books have been published on this subject. Digital Restoration from Start to Finish is somewhat helpful, but its main focus is family photographs from the mid-twentieth century and never mentions GIMP. Shoemaker's Holiday and I mostly developed our own techniques. We've been making headway with museums because we don't lean on plug-ins and our work exceeds current professional standards. There's a particular example we may be able to share the details of publicly soon, where a museum owned a separate copy of a mass produced nineteenth century image that has been featured at Wikipedia. The museum had already commissioned a local graphic artist to restore their copy. When Wikimedians approached them they compared their restoration to ours and decided ours was superior; that was one of the elements that led to serious negotiation.
Anyway, the best way to get your toes wet is to email me for my Skype ID. It's an excellent client for media collaboration. There are quite a few files from WWII and the Crimean War that would make good novice projects. Normally for a first restoration I coach, you do the easy parts, and when the hard stuff comes along I step you through it or pitch in and show you how. When it's finished we conominate. Sounds fair? Durova318 07:13, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry for my delayed response; In what may be a bizarre twist of fate my internet here has been fading in and out all weekend, and I fear I may soon be limited to school based internet editing exclusively. At any rate, your proposal sounds fair. Owing to my upcoming leave of absence I am a little wary about starting this immediately, though I know this is not fair to you I have to ask if you would be willing to wait until December to take me on as a student for this particular skill, though this may also work to both your and milhist's advantage: If I can find a few more good users would you be willing to take on a small group and show us the ropes, or would this skill be better leaned in a 1-on-1 approach? TomStar81 (Talk) 08:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think if you're worried about credit or anything, I think becoming a politician is the way to go. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Whenever the time and connection are both available, fine. Usually newcomers join the WikiVoices channel. We augment text with voice chats when enough people are online who want it. A fair number of the WV regulars do some media editing, so whether it's one or a group things fit in. Best regards, Durova319 01:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"Congregation Emunath Israel"[edit]

Durova, Thank you for asking. The photograph is great. I like the expressions on the people's faces. But a quick search turns up little on the synagogue. This is the best name and address I can get for it: "Congregation Emunath Israel" "236 W 23rd St, New York, NY, 10011 " I'll keep on looking, but I am not sure that there is enough for an article. Bus stop (talk) 14:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for looking into it. Interesting how the two women are walking in step elbow to elbow, but looking in different directions lost in thought. Durova318 18:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is supposed to be a picture of it, but it doesn't look like the same stucture to me, unless it has undergone some considerable changes. Bus stop (talk) 23:39, 13 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Moved from user page[edit]

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Gridrunner Revolution, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quinling (talkcontribs)

I previously tried to WP:PROD the article in July. As a re-prod it'll be rejected. If you'd like to AfD I'll happily support. Regards, Bazj (talk) 08:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the background. AFD'd. Durova318 16:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You re-Prod-ed. I've AfD'd, your vote is welcome... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strongbar Industries. Ta. Bazj (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Did I? Am sorry; thank you for regularizing it. Durova318 18:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MILHIST academy[edit]

Hi Durova, I'm working on images in the academy. We would like to include a section on image restoration in the adavanced or intermediate course that explains briefly how to obtain freeware or cheap software to enhace images like photos taken at a museum or improve old black&white images. I would very much appreciate your contributions. Thanks a lot. Greetings Wandalstouring (talk) 11:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Those are two very different goals, both of which are much easier to do badly than well. Durova318 16:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK, than take the black&white images please, I'll find someone else for the photos. Wandalstouring (talk) 08:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PING Wandalstouring (talk) 09:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's up, my first solo-nom. Wooty woot. Staxringold talkcontribs 12:44, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could you transfer me the TIFF please for a little touch-up? Durova318 16:22, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unfortunately...[edit]

...I can't give you the Wikichevrons with Oakleaves, but I can at the very least give you this:

The WikiChevrons
For all of your extremely hard work in restoring and improving photographs and other images, and therefore bettering all of wikipedia. Skinny87 (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I've been following your conversation with Roger and the others, and I just wanted to give you this barnstar for all your hardwork. I don't think I'm a Coordinator anymore, so this isn't really official, but then who cares? The main thing is that you deserve, especially for the Wounded Knee restoration that you did. And I'm sorry that MILHIST hasn't been the receptive area that you'd hoped it would be; if I could offer some explanation, then for me it would be that the project just doesn't have the members with the interest in imagery that other wikiprojects, such as WP:Baseball, does. Perhaps there are projects that would be even more enthusiastic - and projects that might be even less? Again, I don't know, but I do hope you don't take it personally. Thank-you very much for all the hard work that you've done for MILHIST, and the entire of wikipedia in particular. Yours, Skinny87 (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Richmond, Virginia. 1865
Thank you very much. It really is heartwarming to see that you care. May I be candid? It's a bit hard to hit the right note with this, so please be understanding. Our sights should be set on a different horizon. We've reached the level where it really becomes possible to establish partnerships with offsite cultural institutions. The Tropenmuseum has already donated over 2000 images to Commons about the cultural history of Suriname. They've committed to 100,000 images about the former Dutch colonial empire. Imagine if we built upon that type of synergy with collections of military history?
Last week while I was at the blood bank an old copy of Smithsonian was on the table. In 2002 a bank in Alexandria, Virginia discovered old trunks in its basement; the contents had been neglected and forgotten for 85 years. They contained family archives that Robert E. Lee's daughter had deposited for storage the year before her death. The bank donated the collection to the Virginia Historical Society. If you really want to express appreciation for my work, please find a MILHIST volunteer in northern Virginia. There are several restorations they could show the historical society such as the one at right of the destruction at Richmond. Most nonprofits don't have the budget to commission this type of work (at least not at high quality). There's a synergy to be built here. Let's pursue it. Durova318 18:40, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, it's the least you deserve. Unfortunately, I'm in Great Britain, but I've posted a query here at WT:MILHIST in the hope that someone can help. Skinny87 (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(ec) I am in Northern Virginia, and would be delighted to help. You have my email, I think; in any case, it's enabled here. Maralia (talk) 20:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sure thing. Durova318 21:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually one of the UK editors and I were kicking around fundraising ideas about a month ago and an idea arose which might be feasible next year. Apparently a lot of British charities sell wall calendars for fundraising. It's always a challenge to find good presents for men. So we were thinking a calendar of featured pictures about British military history such as here where y'all burned our capitol and darn near turned us Yanks back into a colony. The UK chapter has a bit of organizing to do first. Once the paperwork is in place, does this seem tempting? Durova318 21:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, I'd buy something like that - seems like a great idea. Over here you get a lot of military aircraft calendars and maybe some of vehicles, but something like you're suggesting I haven't seen much of, if at all. Skinny87 (talk) 08:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wonderful. WMF UK is arranging preliminary events in London, if that's not too far out of your way. In the meantime, will deliver something to your wiki-door. Durova319 01:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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FYI, I redirected Kinda Country, That's All There Is, Bad Dream No.13 and The Blood and the Body to Eerie Von, all were track listings, and nothing to establish notability showed up in my searches. --kelapstick (talk) 16:36, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Hello
I am writing this to you because I notice from the Joseph Priestley talk page you are a) an admin and b) neutral on the subject of left aligned images.
I am writing about an interminable dispute on this page over a lead image.
About 3 months ago an editor (User:Srnec) changed the lead image to a picture of a statue with a corona; this caused quite an argument and was eventually rejected He then started a nagging campaign to have the original image (another statue) removed.
He was joined in this 6 weeks ago by another editor (User:Ekwos) saying much the same thing.
The upshot is the article now has a left aligned image of yet another statue.
A fortnight ago I referred it for comment, though that was probably the wrong thing to do; what it needs is someone neutral (ie an admin ) to make a summary and close the discussion.
Which brings me to you: Can you do that? Or comment? Or advise? Swanny18 (talk) 21:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Um, actually I'm neither an admin nor neutral on the subject. Durova318 21:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK (Sorry!) my mistake.Swanny18 (talk) 15:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PS Do you know who I should talk to? Swanny18 (talk) 15:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
PPS You seem to know about images; I’ve put a question about Maps below, if that's OK Swanny18 (talk) 15:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Amber and Blood[edit]

Just a friendly note on Amber and Blood. Worldcat has the book in 621 libraries in the US -- while this doesn't meet Wikipedia:Notability (books) by itself, there's a lot of consensus that such books have a high likelihood of notability, so I've removed the prod tag. As always, feel free to take it to AfD. Cheers! --Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sounds fine. Thank you for leaving word. :) Durova318 23:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Portal:Baseball[edit]

FYI, I got some help on using an AWB tool and was able to create a list of DYK'd baseball articles. I've stored it in my sandbox, will update the DYKs later. Staxringold talkcontribs 03:04, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Great. If you find more potential restortions, please list them onsite. Durova318 03:42, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This search might also be helpful... :) Cirt (talk) 03:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Multimedia Usability Meeting in France[edit]

Hello Durova, I've sent you an email about the multimedia usability meeting, but I'm not sure it ever got to you. If you haven't received it (and if you have too, actually), could you drop me a line at delphinePUNTOmenardATwikimediaPOINTfr? It would be great if you can make it to Paris. Thank you! notafish talk on meta —Preceding undated comment added 23:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Why do I watch this userpage?[edit]

I watchlisted all of the userpages of WikiCup contestants in the top 8. :P iMatthew talk at 01:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey thanks. Shot you an invisible barnstar. Seems right for quality lurking. Best wishes! :) Durova319 01:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Today, I received a barnstar for stalking someone's talk page. I then realized it's the first barnstar I've gotten in over a year. FML iMatthew talk at 02:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Aw! Okay I threw in a beer. :) Durova319 02:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Today, I received beer on my talk page. I then realized it's the first time I've seen what a can of beer looks like, in my entire life. I'm 25. FML. iMatthew talk at 02:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
:) Durova319 02:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why do I lurk?[edit]

I must have sent you a message at one time, although I have no idea when or why. I never took this age off my watchlist (I rarely do). So, yeah, I lurk to a certain degree, as in I saw your edit summary and was curious to see what you meant. I hope you believe me that there's nothing sinister in this. I've got lots of user talk pages on my watchlist. Cheers. freshacconci talktalk 01:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(ec'd)Wow, I don't remember it either. Thanks for sharing; one barnstar coming up. :) Durova319 01:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I decided to watch this page due to our interactions via E-mail where you were very helpful and kind to me. I also consider you a friend (and a friendly person overall), and that's the other reason why I watch your pages. Best. Acalamari 01:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Likewise! Barnstar on its way, and thank you very much. :) Durova319 01:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I lurk. I just lurk. I'm a lurker. I was a lurker in a previous lifetime. I lurk out of a sense of not wanting to miss anything. I suffer deep pangs of shame for my lurking propensities. But I am learning to cope. Bus stop (talk) 02:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lol! This evening lurking is its own reward. :) Durova319 02:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I lurk because the host posts interesting pictures, gives out free barnstars and does craftwork with socks ( so clearly they need to be watched! ;p ) –xenotalk 02:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hm, my sockpuppet account might have to award this barnstar... ;) Durova319 02:21, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

prices[edit]

with respect to Hb of coastal & ocean engineering, are you startled at the price? $198 for a 1300 p. volume of this sort is quite ordinary. If anything, it's a little on the low side, and my guess as a librarian is that it implies either expected wide sales, or rather low quality. BTW, the book might conceivable be notable, but it's hard to tell as it's just out so I can't judge by holdings or reviews. The article of course is ridiculous, not just the table of contents, but the irrelevant puffery at the start about the importance of the subject. DGG ( talk ) 05:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, it does come off as an advertisement. At least to my reading. Durova319 15:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Little House with an Orange Roof[edit]

I am not understanding, what exactly do i need to add to keep this page from being deleted. Also could you give me an example as well?

Look for reviews in reliable third party sources, and cite them. Durova319 15:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maps[edit]

Can you help me with this?
I was wanting to add a map to this page, on the lines of the one here. Can you tell me how to do it? or where to look for advice on how to do it? Thanks Swanny18 (talk) 15:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't create maps, just restore old ones. There's a whole mapmaking culture in Wikipedia somewhere...try checking out the creator on a few maps you like. Durova319 15:39, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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List of Soap episodes page[edit]

You added two tags to my page, and I'm wondering what your specific reasons were. The tag asking me for reliable sources I removed because I have no idea what would be a more reliable source for what happened on the episodes of the show than the DVD collection for all four seasons of the show, which I personally own and can verify the information on the page with. The tag asking me to "wikify" the page I left up, but mainly because there are indeed deviations from the typical episode list on the page - owing to the fact that Soap episodes have no names (so I can't include episode titles) and that they have multiple plotlines in a show (so I can't use the conventional "short summary" to summarize one unified plot). Outside of those two things, my episode list looks pretty much the same as everyone else's on here for the most part. I did use the "title" box to show what new characters were introduced in particular episodes (which was a handy thing to do for Soap specifically because it has a huge ensemble cast, with new characters being introduced often on the show). But generally, I did try to keep to the normal format - it was just difficult to do this for Soap because so much about the show is different than other shows.

I do see that other episode list pages include information about the DVD sets for a show when they are available, and I was thinking this might be something I could do to update the page. But outside of that, I really think the page is fine the way it is...the "wikify" tag really seems to point to the fact that I've deviated in a few places from the normal format, but I feel I did have to do that in certain areas. Zachary Klaas (talk) 23:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Three of the sources for this article are Geocities homepage, the Internet Movie Database, and a page by someone called Dean Adams. IMDB is not acceptable per Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and the Geocities and Dean Adams homepages would not be acceptable unless some unusual reason applied (such as being the personal page of a producer of the show). Please wikilink the introductory section to other articles. Durova319 02:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The Geocities homepage has the liner notes for the DVD collection. Because I have the DVD collection with those liner notes, I recognize that information comes from there. I'll update that reference to indicate this, though if I already have the DVDs themselves identified as as source, this seems a little perfunctory. IMDB and Dean Adams had the dates the shows ran, and I didn't have any other source for that information. What do you want there, an indication on the Talk page that if anyone can find this information in the New York Times, that would be appreciated, because all I have is IMDB and a guy named Dean Adams? Or is there someplace I can look for these dates that you'll accept? Zachary Klaas (talk) 15:03, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, a little looking around shows me why you're ragging on IMDb while at the same time leaving my TV.com reference alone. Apparently, IMDb is unacceptable because they let anyone edit it (kind of like Wikipedia...) whereas TV.com only allows its "top contributors" to edit it (could be idiots with a high posting ratio, but presumably the assumption is that the top contributors are more reliable, whereas some stray poster could mislead IMDb). Since that seems to be the bone of contention with IMDb, I will do as was done on the "How I Met Your Mother" episode guide and move IMDb to an "external links" list and out of the "reference" list.Zachary Klaas (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Random Geocities sites aren't reliable even when they reproduce reliable sources. I could start a Geocities site that reproduces The New York Times election results, which is faithful in every respect except for the minor typographical error that ends the story "President McCain". Durova319 14:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
...or "President Lindbergh" ;) Sincerely, Jack Merridew 14:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I have the DVD liner notes. Physically. On my person. The site shows what I have in hard copy version. This is a computer, and people can't download my hardcopy liner notes, but someone out there has transcribed them, and I can direct people to that with a simple point-and-click. Am I to understand that you would prefer that instead I make a PDF of my liner notes and post them to the Commons? That seems like a tremendously pointless hassle to go through just because people don't like Geocities. I do cite the hardcopy version separately, so what do you think I should do? Should I move that down to be an "external link" as well? Is it just a problem that it appears as a "reference"? I think it's kind of user-hostile not to have any link to that site. Zachary Klaas (talk) 15:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Citing the liner notes directly is fine. Bear in mind that liner notes count as self-published sources for this purpose. Third party sourcing such as critical reviews would help. Durova319 16:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just thought you might want to know that I have nominated Portal:Baseball at WP:FPOC! Please stop by and weigh in! Staxringold talkcontribs 01:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Military history coordinator elections: voting has started![edit]

Voting in the Military history WikiProject coordinator election has now started. The aim is to elect the coordinators to serve for the next six months from a pool of sixteen candidates. Please vote here by 23:59 (UTC) on 26 September!
For the coordinators,  Roger Davies talk 22:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Durova,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Bethlehem Steel Pennellb.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 21, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-21. howcheng {chat} 00:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What[edit]

did you mean by that? I think you misdialed. (Igny (talk) 15:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC))Reply[reply]

What is 'Crystal Balling'[edit]

why is Libyan Premier League 2009-10 Fixtures & Results being deleted? The reason stated was 'crystal balling', I think. Can you tell me what this is? Thanks (b.t.1994 (talk 21:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC))Reply[reply]

It refers to a section of the Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not policy regarding future events. Durova319 20:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ahoy, matey![edit]

Avast! Have yerself a happy International Talk Like a Pirate Day, me hearties. Ye landlubbers best be a-speakin' the pirate language o'er the next 20 hours or so, else be forced to walk the plank and sent into the depths, ye scurvy dog! yo ho ho! –Juliancolton | Talk 02:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC) Arrr! Durova319 23:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Atlanta roundhouse ruin3.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thought to ask[edit]

Hello, Durova I have a question for you. I just found your Triple Crown subpage, and I am having trouble comprehending the rules (probably because it is 5 am here and I'm tired, but refuse to go to bed). I feel like an idiot for asking, but instead of me wasting time reading the page over and over again until I figure out if I qualify for one, just thought to ask you. What do you think, do I qualify? Thank you for your time.--WillC 08:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One fewer, perhaps[edit]

See user talk:Ikip. Guy (Help!) 16:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion of [Catharina E. Fick][edit]

I don't think I can delete articles but this article should be deleted for the same reason Hannelore F. U. Veenstra was deleted.Kacembepower (talk) 17:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've gone ahead and proposed deletion. There's also a theoretical possibility that with expansion and additional sources both biographies could be kept as Wikipedia articles. Was the discovery discussed extensively in the South African press? Have they made other noteworthy achievements that received third party coverage? Passing mention of a co-patent isn't enough to justify a biography by itself, but if these are notable scientists then it would be fine to have fleshed-out articles for both of them. Best regards, Durova320 18:01, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FYI[edit]

User:Piotrus/ArbCom, and I've left a link to that on talk of every mentioned editor. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. Durova320 20:38, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wes Straub[edit]

Hello Duvora,

I'm here to address the reason you deleted my article on Wes Straub. You stated:

Fails WP:MUSIC. Dubious assertions of notability, such as claiming to have played at the Burning Man festival. Burning Man has no signed acts.

While my list of notable performances may have appeared "dubious," each performance was cited in at least once by a source. I challenge you to go back and check it out for yourself. If I said he played Burning Man, it's because a source stated he played Burning Man ([5]). And if that's not good enough, then delete that part, not my entire article. So would you please restore my article?

Thanks.--mattofwashington (talk) 21:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am not an administrator. I neither performed the deletion, nor have power to restore it. Durova320 23:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please take a look. I think I've addressed all the issues you mentioned. --mav (talk) 03:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Lise (now that your name is on your user page),

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Gothic armor 2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 24, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-24. howcheng {chat} 04:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A different picture appears there. Durova320 04:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ha, you replied before I could fix it. :) howcheng {chat} 04:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fortunately that was the only thing which needed fixing. Great job, as usual. :) Durova320 04:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A couple of weeks ago, you marked Blok (Furniture) for speedy deletion as a copyvio and I deleted it. When asked about it on my talk page, I took a second look and the text of the deleted article does not seem to match what is on the webpage it was marked as a copy of. Normally, I check closely before deleting, but maybe I didn't notice that they didn't match. Or maybe the website has since changed. I have undeleted the article for now, but can you please take a second look? -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The entire introduction is a direct cut and paste from the site I linked in the CSD template. Not a single word was changed. The editor does not use quotation marks and cites only half of that text to a source. Durova320 20:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sigh...I'm getting old. That should have been obvious to me. I have removed the cut-and-pasted portion and proposed deletion of the article because I don't see any evidence that it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair enough. It can be a close call when part of the article is direct cut/paste and the rest is barely reworded from a catalog. Best regards, Durova320 20:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Lise,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Caledonia, New York aerial2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 26, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-26. howcheng {chat} 06:39, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question about image copyright[edit]

Howdy. I was wondering if you might be able to take a look at this image, the licensing info claims 1940 (therefore public domain and free from Crown Copyright) but the image itself shows a theater marquee advertising 2 films that weren't released until 1954 or so. Working with images is something that I have very little experience with and am unsure if being produced after 1949 would have any fair use/copyright implications. If you have a moment would you be so kind as to give me a pointer on actions that may or may not need to be taken? Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 16:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, and thanks for asking. You may get a quicker answer heading to the copyright questions board. Right now I'm full up. Durova320 00:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries. User:Ccrashh was kind enough to mosey down to the City of Ottawa Archives (IIRC the original source of the image in question) and consult the fine folks therein. From there it's off to the copyright question board. Thanks. L0b0t (talk) 01:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Glad to hear it isn't much of a setback. Durova320 01:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

EE Mailing list archive[edit]

Hello, Durova.

Sorry for giving you this message here, but I wanted to make sure that this response wouldn't be lost in the voluminous page. — Coren (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help with article[edit]

2009 flu pandemic is read by ~750,000 people per month. We've done a major overhaul to go for WP:GAC. If you have time could you take a look? It's very important, possibly the most important article on Wikipedia at the moment. Best regards, Jehochman Talk 00:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm stretched as thin as can be with existing commitments. Held a telephone interview this afternoon with a special collections curator from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Writing a piece for Signpost while the notes are fresh. Need to return to Tropenmuseum restorations, and then there's the mailing list monster. Can't help you, sorry. Durova320 00:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WikiCup Newsletter XXXII[edit]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Lise,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Sixteenth Century Cannon2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 28, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-09-28. howcheng {chat} 03:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

WikiVoices[edit]

Hello,

There is a dispute [6] about the publication of WikiVoices #45 of which you were a particapant. Do you have any comments to add about how this matter has been handled? 99.150.255.75 (talk) 04:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not really. I hadn't signed up for the episode, was offline when the edit war occurred, and did relatively little during the episode. Mostly was there to record; was doing unrelated work in another program.

Heading back to Commons to upload an uncompressed version. Durova320 04:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks - picture looks just like my Uncle Joe. For the WikiVoices episode 45 - do you have a copy of the record that you made? How long was the round table? Did any of the winners of the election take part? What happens to the recordings ordinarily? Is only one made? Has anyone every lost the recording? 99.150.255.75 (talk) 04:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You know, I looked at your post to ANI and it really does appear to be unhelpful. The thread is a request for administrative review of an edit war that occurred today. It doesn't appear that any of the names you added were involved in that edit war. Please remove my name and leave me out of it. Durova320 04:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And for the record, the recording I made was for today's episode. I did not record episode 45. Durova320 04:52, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks - your name as a community participant is now in a collapsed section. I respect your desire to be left out. Can you suggest anyone who could calmly mediate (informal mediation - not any kind of official mediation) this matter in a calm, logical and possibly friendly manner? I don't try to be unhelpful - I think it just comes across that way in my writing - I want to just jump in an have everyone understand each other better. Best wishes 99.150.255.75 (talk) 05:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not sure who to suggest. Just wrapping up a featured content drive and heading to bed. Durova320 06:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Credit where it's due[edit]

Thanks to your comments in the thread about the gerbil, I've official started out my day with uproarious laughter. I can't find any humour-related barnstars, but I'd give you one if there were one. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 01:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're welcome; anytime. :) Durova320 03:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cool image[edit]

Hey Durova! Check this pic out. Not sure it's worth restoring, but it sure is neat. Staxringold talkcontribs 17:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Restorable, but compositional problems. Cuts off the figure at far left and the top of the flag. Durova320 18:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The 399[edit]

Hi. I'm one of the 399. Can you tell me what tool one can use to find out how many people watchlist a given page? Thank you! - Hordaland (talk) 19:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here you go. Acalamari 19:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. (You're one of the 397, too, eh.) - Hordaland (talk) 20:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

POTD notification[edit]

POTD

Hi Lise,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Puck cover2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 2, 2009. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2009-10-02. This one was a rather difficult one to write, as the subject doesn't appear to be easily summarized. howcheng {chat} 05:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems like a good approach. I've copyedited. Durova320 14:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RFC/U[edit]

I am not going to file an RFC/U against somebody who is just going to feud with me by making counter-assertions. This is apparent from how the ANI discussion went. I was looking for a response like, Yes, I now see that an admin should not have knowing supported a sock puppet's RFA. I won't do that again. Oh well, I tried and failed. If you are concerned about admins (and Oversight applicants) who help their "best friend" flout the rules, you are welcome to start an RFC/U. I shall avoid participating because I do not want to engage in feuding. My feeling is that a simple admonishment would do. An RFC seems like overkill. Jehochman Talk 15:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you don't want to engage in feuding, Mr. Hatfield, please stop aiming at the McCoys. I would gladly certify a conduct RfC on either of you. But I won't be the one to start it. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be running back into the Photoshop cave and casting shadows upon the wall. Durova320 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What if we both band together and certify an RFC on you? We'll get you, my pretty, and your little cave paintings too. *cackle* Jehochman Talk 16:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)