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Hi, CV! I wanted to drop you a word of thanks for your work towards getting the Stratford thing under control. Which clearly it isn't yet, but I suppose sooner or later a check-user will get to the SPI, and I'm moderately hopeful that that will lead somewhere. If it doesn't I'll take this to ANI, enough's enough! Thanks for your emails, read and acknowledged, but I don't think a lot's going to be gained by going down that particular rabbit hole. It seems to me that there's a LOT of clean-up needed – crappy articles like Stratford Lyon and Stamford Bull Run for starters. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- I somehow missed the earlier debacle, but I've seen cases like this before. I'm sorry you went through so much frustration over it. That was not fair, to you, to everyone who worked the case, or to the community. Hopefully we'll get it sorted this time around. Could definitely use more eyes and hands on cleaning up the astroturfing in the wake of this. Best, - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 19:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Mohammad Sadegh Amiri[edit]
Hello, can you remove the tag of Mohammad Sadegh Amiri, thank you 113.203.74.170 (talk) 21:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you are asking, or why you are asking me. Do you mean the notice that Mohammad Sadegh Amiri is currently being considered for deletion? If you want to discuss that, you will need to go to the deletion discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Sadegh Amiri. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 21:31, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes 113.203.83.158 (talk) 02:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please remove the label 113.203.21.146 (talk) 04:55, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- If you read the template it says: "do not remove this notice before the discussion is closed". This applies to admins as well as all other editors. I am also unclear why you are writing me about this. I've never edited that article. Assuming you do not have Conflict of Interest, or some other reason you can't edit or participate, participate in the linked discussion and/or improve the article if you want the article preserved. Best wishes, - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Definition of witchcraft[edit]
Saying we are harmful isn’t ok. We are healers. Please don’t attack my religion. Fix it promptly, as it is hate speech. And no, Wicca and witchcraft are not synonymous. Not all witches are Wiccan (I’m not). It’s like saying all Christian people are Catholic. Please, fix this now. 68.229.102.219 (talk) 23:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Discussion for improvement of the article is better on article talk, so all the involved editors can participate. None of the content in the article is my opinion. It's based on the solid sources, and a worldwide view, not just recent, western beliefs (post Gerald Gardner) that have redefined the word in a few cultures. Traditional cultures see it very differently, and we need to represent a worldwide view. The other views are thoroughly covered as well. Read the article and the links. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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Countering systemic bias[edit]
Is a member of WikiProject Countering systemic bias using tangential sources to cast doubt on the veracity of a living purported statutory rape victim[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] in favor of her alleged dead wealthy white male rapist? That doesn't sound right, Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Please read up on the cases thoroughly. Notably, all the many sources that document Mattix/Maddox/Lightning's life in that era. There are numerous contemporaries who were already on record about their lives, including Mattix with her contradictory versions told over the years. "Believe Survivors" means give everyone a serious listen and consideration - no matter who they are, no matter what you think of them as a person. Evaluate all the evidence and testimony with open eyes and compassion.
- False accusations of rape are more unusual than false charges of carjacking. Most women, and many men, will be raped in their lifetimes, and it is hell to get charges to stick through the courts. I know all of this. All too well. But... I also know these cases and the two instances are very rare and unusual situations. Truth is not dependent on race, class, age, or gender. It's not dependent on liking or disliking an artist's work. It is very sad when someone confabulates or lies, as it wreaks havoc on the lives of all survivors. It's a horrible thing. Not as horrible as being raped, but horrible.
- Please look seriously at the timeline and read the witness statements as well as the conflicting accounts she gave. There are other accounts out there, as well, that aren't included in the article. Don't turn this into a personal attack because you haven't done the research, OK? - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 23:47, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Unless I'm mistaken we don't have any sources which say these the accusations of rape were false. We don't appear to have any sources which call the allegations confabulations or lies. Where you getting this from? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- The sources say Mattix was in a sexual relationship with Jimmy Page for two years before she later claimed Bowie "took her virginity". Sable Starr, the woman she told people she was with on that night, claiming she had a threesome with along with Bowie, says Mattix was not there. If you were reading the material you just tried to blank from the article you would know this. There's more, but you're not reading. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 23:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- We aren't allowed to do original research, especially about living people. Now show me the reliable source which explicitly supports the claim about a living person you just made. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've already pointed you at the sources, which you are clearly not reading. Stop wasting people's time and do the work. Stop posting here. Keep discussion about improving the article on article talk. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 00:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- We aren't allowed to do original research, especially about living people. Now show me the reliable source which explicitly supports the claim about a living person you just made. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- The sources say Mattix was in a sexual relationship with Jimmy Page for two years before she later claimed Bowie "took her virginity". Sable Starr, the woman she told people she was with on that night, claiming she had a threesome with along with Bowie, says Mattix was not there. If you were reading the material you just tried to blank from the article you would know this. There's more, but you're not reading. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 23:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Unless I'm mistaken we don't have any sources which say these the accusations of rape were false. We don't appear to have any sources which call the allegations confabulations or lies. Where you getting this from? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
Actually, if you want to defend Lori's honour, take it to Jimmy Page, where they have her listed as older than she was, and simply describe it as a "relationship". - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 00:12, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- There's also another underlying problem here this user isn't understanding when it comes to Bowie. Claims. Everything Lori Mattix has said in relation to Bowie has counteracted documented evidence of where he was, what he was doing, and who he was with, by biographers, individuals he was with at that time, and even Mattix herself. It's very different from like you say Jimmy Page, where their relationship was very documented and most importantly, the one in question is still alive to confirm it. Mattix made all the claims after Bowie died; where were the accusations when he was alive? Since Bowie is no longer living, anything said would just be defaming a dead artist. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 00:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- What gets me is that user's laser focus on Bowie, and their abject refusal to be clear-eyed in evaluating the evidence. It's a blatant POV push that they seem to have come here to do. If they want to write about men we know were sexually abusing and exploiting these underage girls, cases where there is zero doubt, why are they not doing that? They could do real research in the RS sources, go through these girls' lists, testimonies and photos, and get on it.
- I have a great deal of compassion for the girls who got caught up in the whole "baby groupie" thing. I understand Mattix's dilemma around saying these relationships were her choice, and consensual; her wanting to think of herself as a young woman with agency, despite the fact that she was underage. I also think that it's thoroughly documented that she was a kid on drugs and these men exploited her. But... there is considerable documentation that she also liked to tell tall tales and that Bowie was not one of these men.
- This obsessed user made a personal attack ludicrously claiming I don't believe women... um, yeah, I do. I believe Sable Starr who Mattix says was in bed with them, but Starr says Mattix was not there. I believe Pamela Des Barres who documented Mattix's prior relationship with Jimmy Page (as have so many others). I believe the literally hundreds of actual survivors I know. And I believe Mattix - in that she's told so many conflicting versions of this that she herself is the one that has proven she's an unreliable witness. That's why it's so painful and disturbing to have to deal with one of the very rare cases of falsehood in this area. It really, really sucks. As I said above, this stuff is so harmful to real survivors. I take this seriously precisely because it is so important. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 22:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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Bowie[edit]
Hey. If the Bowie article winds up at FAR at some point after this is all over, and if you think I'll be helpful feel free to give me a ping. :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Same here. I really haven't worked on it much. Just bits here and there when I've seen some obvious problems. Good work stepping up on the WP:ICANTHEARYOU user ignoring the sources. Let me know if you need help with that, as well. My email is also open. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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