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Your GA nomination of Niue Nukutuluea Multiple-Use Marine Park

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Your GA nomination of East Timor

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Congrats! Getting any country article to GA (even a geographically small one) is a significant achievement! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:33, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Sdkb, I know it's not the Turkmenistan article you're looking for! CMD (talk) 05:39, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

The Barnstar of National Merit

		The Barnstar of National Merit
		Great job with East Timor you got to good article status Moxy-
		this WikiAward was given to Chipmunkdavis by Moxy- on 17:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Moxy! Seconded! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Henley & Partners

Hi CMD, hope you're doing well. We interacted several months ago when you took part in a discussion at Talk:Henley & Partners, and I'm hoping you won't mind doing so once more. I recently proposed two content changes at Talk:Henley & Partners#Fixing misleading language in two places. Can you please take a look, and implement my suggestions in the article if they seem reasonable to you? Thanks! Sarah Nicklin (talk) 08:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sarah, I am quite busy at the moment, be sure to tag your request with Template:Request edit and it may get dealt with sooner. CMD (talk) 09:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway! Sarah Nicklin (talk) 11:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Suggestions and input for improving Philippines citations for consistency

Hello Chipmunkdavis. The article Philippines currently uses both {{rp}} and {{sfn}} for single sources having various page numbers. For consistency, I was thinking of choosing one, but need your input and suggestions since you may have used {{rp}} while I opted to later use {{sfn}}. The reason I used {{sfn}} was because I initially did not know hot to add a link to the page number in {{rp}}. What do you think would be better in terms of maintainability/readability? I am leaning towards using {{rp}} since the references section would show the complete citation details without having to do a mouseover on the citation unlike in {{sfn}}. Currently, 16 citations use {{rp}} while {{sfn}} uses 23. Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 19:02, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

On second thought though, upon inspection, most featured articles use {{sfn}}. {{rp}}, although showing a single/unique source in References section, does not show the page numbers on the References section, unlike {{sfn}}. Sanglahi86 (talk) 19:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sanglahi, I use rp as a matter of personal preference, and suspect many of the uses on Philippines are from me. I feel rp is easier to access as an editor and a reader, and integrates better with other types of sources such as websites, but that remains just a personal preference. If you wish to standardize, I have no objection to you converting references to sfn. CMD (talk) 10:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree {{sfn}} is quite more complicated than {{rp}}. I tend to obsess over consistent formatting but do not plan on taking it to the extreme. For now, I will then convert {{rp}} citations to {{sfn}} for consistency purposes. Thank you for your valuable input. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:06, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of East Timor

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A Barnstar for you!!!

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		For your participation and help at Wikipedia:Good Article proposal drive 2023. It wouldn't have been such a success without you. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 20:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of African Space Agency

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Deleting redirects to moved GANs

Re this comment; I've been moving a lot of old GANs under now-redirected pages recently, and if the parent page is a disambiguation page I have not been leaving a redirect behind. My thinking is that the redirect doesn't identify which of the pages the dab points to, and so long as the talk page and GA subpage are in sync, that's the main thing. Do you think I should be leaving redirects in those cases? They can be fixed by moving them back, and moving them again, this time leaving a redirect, if necessary. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean exactly about the redirect not identifying a particular dab page. My thinking was that existing links can be broken if a redirect is removed. This is likely due to my coming across, for example, some Article history templates that point to older un-redirected titles. Where there is no clash (eg. avoiding perhaps situations where two pages from the same disambiguation are at GA), it seems harmless at worst to leave the redirect in place. CMD (talk) 03:19, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

For example, when I did this move I didn't leave a redirect because 2020 World Grand Prix is a dab page. It seems wrong to me to have pages that are children of dabs but which are related to other pages. I looked at a few incoming links when doing these moves and all I saw were old article alerts in archived WikiProject pages, which seemed harmless. I did harmonize the GA subpage with its new parent: Talk:2020 World Grand Prix (2019–20 season) now has article history that correctly points to the moved subpage, so there's no redirection needed there. If you think it's better to leave the redirect in place in case it's ever needed I can start leaving them there. I suppose the only time it would ever cause a problem would be if the dab for some reason stopped being a dab and needed to have its own GA subpages, and that's probably never going to happen. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

To me, subpage redirects existing from page moves is a natural expectation, whether or not the replace page is a dab. I am unsure how common that feeling is, of course. I do feel it's better to leave it there, but not strongly enough to suggest you remove back and forth all previous articles to recreate the redirects. CMD (talk) 13:21, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

I can see this is one of those debatable questions. I'll start leaving the redirects in place when I do more of these, then; I guess it's harmless. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Found an example case, that hopefully shows what I meant better than my words above. Talk:Americana (1981 film) was just moved, along with its GA subpage (hooray!), but the Article history template still points to Talk:Americana (film)/GA1. CMD (talk) 02:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, agreed. In the ones where I didn't leave a redirect, I changed the article history (or failedGA, or GA) template to point to the right place, but if one doesn't do that the redirects are necessary. And they can get referenced elsewhere, so I think it's fine to leave them. The bot just got approval to move the 2,000 or so I listed, and it will be leaving redirects for all of them. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:51, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

BAG 'em and tag 'em! CMD (talk) 15:05, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

👍 Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:39, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

You might be interested

I found this excerpt to be quite interesting. Thought you might be interested as well. Almost seems as if the "Europeanization" of Georgia was a 19th-century colonial byproduct through the Russian occupation? During the 19th century, as we know, many non-European polities accepted/introduced Europeanization, but I think the root of the modern-day "we are Yurop.exe" in Georgian society originated during Russian overlordship (?). An interesting topic for sure.

"But the appointment in 1845 of Mikhail Vorontsov (1782-1856) as viceroy of the Caucasus led to reforms. Among these was recognition of the aristocratic status of around 30,000 Georgians, who then became dependents of the tsarist court and acquired European culture and habits."

-- Pourjavady, R. (2023). "Introduction: Iran, Afghanistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia in the 19th century". In Christian-Muslim Relations. A Bibliographical History Volume 20. Iran, Afghanistan and the Caucasus (1800-1914). Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. p. 18[1]

- LouisAragon (talk) 14:47, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

@LouisAragon: Thank you for sharing! (And for the very accessible url!) A disappointingly brisk article I must say, jumping from point to point without much in the way of depth. I presume for example that "European culture and habits" means the Russian version of "European", but there is no elaboration as to what this meant in practice. Lots of other tidbits too: the annexation of the Georgian Church into the Russian one, the increased urbanisation, the rise of the printing press, the migration and conversion of Muslims, and general sharpening of inter-community tension. All a potent mixing pot for establishing identity. Or, we could go simple, and just blame Peter the Great? CMD (talk) 10:21, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for East Timor

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BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Great job! I would suggest moving up Geography below history and adding a section on Architecture covering notable landmarks and building styles and Media covering newspapers, TV and radio. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:01, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Culture has been tough to dig up quality sources on; I'm vaguely hoping to build out the Culture article. I can source sacred house design. There are many sources that mention Portuguese influence in the architecture of old Dili, but I haven't got anything comprehensive. Media, so far I haven't got much (and I need it for Dili#Culture!). CMD (talk) 12:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Cross Island MRT line

Except apparently I didn't fix it enough as it's complaining again. I'm not sure what the bot is complaining about and am about to start debugging; can you see anything that I left in that's incorrect? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Figured it out -- I had written it to expect "GA nominee", not "GAnominee". Now fixed, I think. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 03:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

True code. CMD (talk) 04:25, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

GAR coordinator

I have just closed the poll at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations, and you are now officially a GAR coordinator. Congratulations, I guess. Happy editing, —Kusma (talk) 09:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the closing and the note of partial encouragement! CMD (talk) 09:53, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion

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Your revert on Artsakh

Why did you revert my edit? It was supposed to demonstrate how big it was before 2020 and after. Please tell me why you did that. Thank you. 2601:280:4F81:4490:F413:8A17:63EE:2C52 (talk) 05:07, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

It was out of place within the lead, and especially where it was at the end, given it was unrelated to the rest of that paragraph. There is information on size in the article body. It is also best to maintain an encyclopaedic tone, which the addition did not. CMD (talk) 05:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Why do you revert some of my edits recently?

Why do you revert several of my edits recently? I just add a caret symbol (^) to the largest city/municipality on the list of every province as an indication. What's wrong with it? For example, in Iloilo, the capital and largest city is Iloilo City while in Ilocos Sur, Vigan is the capital while Candon is the largest city. 49.146.26.186 (talk) 04:31, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

First of all, a caret symbol is not great as it is the symbol for references. Secondly, there is no point indicating such things on sortable tables, as they can be sorted. Thirdly, the largest city is a function of how you are defining large (and city for that matter). CMD (talk) 06:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

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A bit of a help here

Hey, it appears User:RovingPersonalityConstruct has undid the ROC’s tricameral section. Please help me discuss this at the Talk:List of legislatures by number of members#Republic of China section for help. -76.68.77.224 (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Taking inspiration from you

Hi CMD, hope all is well. I'm taking inspiration for my TCC entry from your great work on East Timor. Should be an interesting project + change of pace from my normal editing. Thanks for all you do, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:19, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

To clarify, not suggesting that there is a connection between the two, just working on a location outside of the Anglo-sphere that deserves a better article. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

@Eddie891: It's definitely a grossly underdeveloped article, I look forward to reading it post-contest. I actually did Dili a couple of core contests ago. To this day I keep an eye out for sources on the parts of the article that I just couldn't do as well as I wanted to. CMD (talk) 06:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Request for content verification

Hello Chipmunkdavis. Can you please verify the citations used in Philippines Spanish and American colonial rule (1565–1946) section's sentence "The Spanish forces brought by Legazpi's five ships were a mix of Spaniards and Novohispanics (Mexicans) from New Spain (modern Mexico)." I checked the sources but could not find a source that explicitly stated that Novohispanics were included in Legazpi's five ships. The closest reliable and accessible source I could find online (which is not used as a citation for that statement) is page 102 of "The Spanish Lake" by O. H. K. Spate (2004) that simply stated "The four ships carried a total complement of 380, of whom 200 were soldiers for the settlement." Perhaps you could please check and revise the sentence according to the cited sources? Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 09:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sanglahi86, that is definitely not my writing. Appears to have been added here. Honestly I'd just remove the sentence, not sure what value it adds at all. CMD (talk) 09:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and insights. I have removed the sentence, also for a better overview and to reduce the section's size. Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 10:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Operation USA

Hi, CMD. You are correct, I should have written as 2008, not 2010. The GA declaration was inserted with the 9th ever edit (of 16 lifetime) by IP address editor 72.87.146.61 (contributions) (talk); not-logged-in edits, by editor whose other not-logged-in edits in 2007 and 2008 were on articles Mars Hill Bible School and Louis Ignarro. Along with their edits to Operation USA, they entire body of work at that time (well, 11-of-12 edits) were on these same three articles that the creator of Operation USA was coincidentally working on. The same creator who requested GA status, and who also admits here that, well golly, wouldn’t you know that it just happens to be a conveniently not-logged-in "coworker" of theirs who, with their 9th ever edit and all that associated expertise, granted the GA confirmation on the article. Jmg38 (talk) 07:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Cyrtodactylus santana

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Aoidh (talk) 12:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Native administration

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BorgQueen (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bibliography of Sarawak (March 28)

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Follow-Up on LTA/SPI Case

Hi Chipmunkdavis,

I would like to report a sock of a LTA (with a dedicated WP page), in relation to an edit on a page which you previously reverted as socking when the LTA edited.

However, I am currently under a topic ban which may be related to the edits in question made by the LTA. I would like to request permission to make the SPI report, or if appropriate, any alternatives to making a report. Carter00000 (talk) 06:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Carter, I am unable to alter your topic ban. You need to approach the admin who issued it. CMD (talk) 06:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Noted and will follow-up with the issuing administrator. Carter00000 (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Council of Palm Oil Producing Countries

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UAE map

Map is still incorrect and it did a federal monarchy and where are the rest of the 5 cities names on the map? This country didn’t start as a monarchy I’d know! My father was the first president. Yes that’s why I’m being locked without chains. It was United in 1/1/1973 on my first birthday. If it was a monarchy I’d be queen since my bloodline both sides royal. Blue plus red makes me purple blooded. Maybe that’s why I’m abused well pls correct the information. And yes I got my DNA test result Angelina Alexander (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Source and content verification request

Hello Chipmunkdavis. I was expanding some references in Philippines when I found the source of the phrase "usually paid as 75 tons of silver bullion from the Americas." did not appear to support the said phrase. (page 20 direct link) I could not find any other reliable source supporting it. Could you please verify and revise/remove the phrase if needed? Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 22:19, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for 2023 South Ethiopia Region referendum

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DYK for African Space Agency

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BorgQueen (talk) 12:02, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you talk to people without being mean

I don't understand why you have to be so arrogant and annoying when commenting on what someone has spent a lot of time on. Pull yourself together Thomediter (talk) 17:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

My advice was to take some time and craft a better proposal. This would be a positive step towards your goal. If you do not wish to that is your decision. CMD (talk) 08:17, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Stop reverting changes to the descriptions of citations for the lack of citations

The change in question is a change of wording so that it reflects the sources better. You do not add more references because the change displays the information of the existing sources. The information is already accessible through the existing sources and if you doubt it the correct way is to go to the source and verify that the source itself uses the wording. Not to ask for citations for information that is contained in the citations themselves. Please refrain from reverting changes for lacking citations, if the changes articulate information from the existing citations. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

This is not the article talkpage. CMD (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I am not talking about the content of the article. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, if you don't want to talk about the article content, I'm not sure why you're here, but there is likely a more tailored forum available to you for a particular purpose. CMD (talk) 16:06, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Well, there is the article content and there is the abstract behaviour of reverting changes to descriptions of citations for the reason of lacking citations, which is absurd. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Article content is not a great place to describe citations, that is best done in some form of historiography. If there are sources that establish both the claim you're adding and its WP:DUE weight, I recommend again placing them on the article talkpage. CMD (talk) 16:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

As I said approximately 7 times already, the sources that I am describing are already in the article. That is the change. That I am changing the article's description of the citations to better reflect the citations themselves. You can't ask a citation for that. Also, what's up with your very similar reversal of that Artsakh edit the other person is complaining about? Wikipedia abuse much? 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:17, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

The WP:BURDEN is on you to actually point to a citation, not vaguely handwave. CMD (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I've literally just done that. I am describing the citations that are in the text. e.g. if you click the link to the wiki page for UNSC resolution 550 that is around the edits you will indeed see that the year is 1984, much earlier than the ECJ decision, and therefore it cannot "corroborate" such narratives, but to put the foundation for the decision itself. And the content of what I have written regarding UNSC resolution 550 is contained in the wiki page itself, and not on citations on that page. Hopefully we can see eye to eye. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:40, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

To make a clarification, by "content ... regarding UNSC resolution 550 is contained in the wiki page itself" I mean the wiki page for the resolution. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

If you're basing your edits on WP:Original research of WP:Primary documents, that is insufficient. It is especially insufficient if you are referring to Wikipedia pages and not sources, which is what you seem to be doing. CMD (talk) 16:50, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Please provide evidence for your claim, otherwise assume good faith in my edits as per WP:AFG. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Additionally, put some effort into explaining your accusations in respect of WP:DNB and stop adding a bunch of wikijargon. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 10:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Finally, reading the date from a source is not original research. And nor is using the date to indicate the temporal continuity, in example whether A came before B, whether the UNSC resolution or the ECJ came first, an introduction of new ideas. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 11:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

There are more bodies in the world than those two, and there is no source providing the significance of the order. CMD (talk) 14:12, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

The order is conceptually significant because the way the previous text read, it was implied that A came after B, which is of course wrong. You are right however that neither the ECJ, nor the UNSC resolution page (nor citation) provide information in regard to primacy of the declaration. Would you accept an amendment that removes the claim of primacy, but retains the chronological order, from the page? 134.106.109.104 (talk) 14:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

I would like to see the secondary reliable source you wish to base your edits on. CMD (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

I have no wish for a more extended edit. If the discussed changes are ok with you, then I would like to conclude the discussion. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what changes you seek, no source has been provided, and this is not the article talkpage. CMD (talk) 15:55, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Pro-Turkey, Pro-Azerbaijan editor

This editor is suspected of reverting edits on national grounds, as both their Cyprus and Armenia/Artsakh edits point towards that direction. 134.106.109.104 (talk) 16:02, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Reverted my edit

Why? RPC7778 (talk) 14:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi RPC7778, this was fixed as can be seen on the page history. CMD (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for World-Wide Navigational Warning Service

On 19 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article World-Wide Navigational Warning Service, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the World-Wide Navigational Warning Service divides the entire ocean into just 21 radio areas? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/World-Wide Navigational Warning Service. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, World-Wide Navigational Warning Service), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

1984 New York City Subway shooting

Hi! I realize I could've brought this up on the talk page, but it's more of a question than anything else. Is there a rule that the {{article history}} template has to have the currentstatus parameter defined? I ask only because, on 1984 New York City Subway shooting, the banner template immediately above article history already produces a banner that the article is a GA (and, of course, that template pushes the GA status to all the wiki project ... somehow ... as you might be able to tell by my use of the word "pushes", I don't actually understand anything). I guess we could always use {{banner holder}} to cut down on the length of the talk page headers, there.--Jerome Frank Disciple 13:32, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jerome Frank Disciple: No problem reaching out here. The currentstatus parameter is needed on {{Article history}} as that template creates all the categories for GAs, FAs, etc. I came across Talk:1984 New York City Subway shooting as it threw up an error for not being in the GA talkpage category. You have a point about the visual duplication; that's a new occurrence due to the changes to the Wikiproject bannershell that I'm not sure was discussed. There might be a way to create interdependencies between the templates, but you'd have to raise that with those better at template coding than myself. CMD (talk) 13:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate the info! I'll go ahead and use {{banner holder}} to try to shrink the size of the headers down a bit, and I'll make sure not to remove that parameter again :) Sorry about that.--Jerome Frank Disciple 14:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem! CMD (talk) 14:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)