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CSU/N Gender and culture student welcome[edit]
Hi, Brianda. I thought Ian was listed for CSU/N Gender and culture, but I noticed your welcome at this student's UTP. Did you and Ian swap coverage of that course, or do Welcome messages stand outside the remit of content expert coverage, so whoever gets there first does the welcoming? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:52, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi there @Mathglot, Ian was assigned to the course first, which is why the dashboard populated his information. We did end up swapping later into the term, but didn't update the course wiki page. But you're ok pinging either of us for any student related concerns. Brianda (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Courses and Israel/Palestine[edit]
Hi Brianda, just an FYI on this article assignment for Gaza Strip. Even if there weren't technical (protection) barriers, a very bold choice! Best, CMD (talk) 04:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Very bold indeed. I have let the instructor and the student know about the protections and overall challenges in this topic area, and recommended the student choose a different article to work. Thanks for flagging it to me @Chipmunkdavis. Brianda (Wiki Ed) (talk) 01:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Renamed accounts[edit]
Hello, Brianda,
Every term there are about a half dozen to a dozen student editors who immediately rename their accounts. But the WikiEd staff and sometimes the professor continue to post messages on the old user and user talk pages. An example of this is User:Mcming3. I see these pages because I run a Quarry query to find nonexistent User pages and they pop up on the list because there aren't editors with these usernames. Can you think of a way for the lists of students you work with to be updated when a student editor changes their username? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Liz, We do have a FAQ that directs instructors and students to update their username on our dashboard, but we still get these stragglers as you've seen. I don't think we have something at the moment to identify when a student editor changes their username. But I'd be curious to know how you run this Quarry search, or if you'd be able to point me in the right direction to learn more about it. Perhaps that's a tool that we can incorporate to address this? Brianda (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:34, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- There might be something simpler using PetScan and Category:Wiki Education student editors, but I haven't looked into it. Mathglot (talk) 11:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Here are the accounts that changed their username where you are posting messages to their old user pages and not their current user pages. Maybe you could copy and cut the content you added and paste it to the correct page: User:Slmnknr, User:Amandapay8, User:Lex Lhotka, User:Raul.rivero006, User:Skylarklocker and User:Ellagiul.
- Maybe you could update your records. Ordinarily, these pages would just be deleted but I think if you are going to continue to post updates, they should be going to the correct User Talk pages. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 06:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
FA article[edit]
Hi Brianda, just noting this post for the article Communication. This is already an FA, so probably not the best place for the sort of comprehensive editing a course might look for. The student has two other more appropriate articles selected already, so should be possible to just focus on those. Best, CMD (talk) 20:50, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
Gender and Technoculture at Cal State Fullerton =[edit]
Hi Brianda. Four of the articles listed on the course page for Cal State Fullerton's Gender and Technoculture course are listed as contentious topics, and probably others not so designated ought to be. These might be difficult for student editors to deal with. Mathglot (talk) 09:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Questions from student editor[edit]
Hi Brianda! I'm a student editor looking at editing the page "Germans in Serbia" and I have a couple questions: 1. I recently had someone peer review what I've done so far but they could not locate my list of references. I have this in the Bibliography section. Should I have these somewhere else or can they not see this area for some reason? 2. This page I am editing has a lot of questionable references and it says "reads like a resume" or "reads like an advertisement" - is that because of it's lack of references? THANK YOU! Gopp22 (talk) 04:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Gopp22, I'm Mathglot, another editor here, like you, but I've been around a lot longer. Let's clarify what you are asking. I see three similarly-named pages:
- Germans of Serbia, an article created years ago, and edited once by you on 30 January.
- User:Gopp22/Germans of Serbia, created by you and edited by you three times containing a peer review of the lead, body, and references of #1, and no article content.
- User:Gopp22/Germans of Serbia/Bibliography, containing 11 items in the Bibliography section.
- Assuming we are talking about the last one, maybe they had trouble finding it because you didn't mention where it was or link to it. The same thing happened to me, and I had to hunt around to find it, but I eventually did.
- When you mentioned, "reads like a resume" or "reads like an advertisement", now you are talking about #1, and to answer your question: No, those notations at the top have nothing to do with the references at all; they are concerned strictly with the type of language used in the article. Or to be more precise, with the language used in the article when those notices were placed in June 2019, as it's not accurate now. Looking at the state of the article then, it wasn't true then, either. I've removed the messagges, and you needn't be concerned about them.
- One question might remain to be resolved: I don't know how the Germans of Serbia was chosen, whether you picked it, or maybe it was assigned to you because of the maintenance templates, indicating that there were some problems in the article, ideal for a student editor to investigate. If that is the case, you can tell your instructor that those messages at the top were placed in error, and have been removed. That doesn't mean the article can't be improved, and anyway, those messages had nothing to do with the state of referencing, as I mentioned, so imho you can keep on improving the referencing without worrying anymore about those maintenance templates that used to be there. Good luck in your course! (talk page watcher) Mathglot (talk) 08:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Mathglot thank you. What you explained makes sense; however, I am now confused on another level - you say there are three pages. There is only one page I was hoping to work on (#1) but for our student platform it includes links for our assignments that say things such as "work on your bibliography here" and the here will link to a page (#2 and #3 for example were links I followed to create a bibliography and to add content). To me, at the time, I understood these to be working pages, like areas to create drafts. Maybe that is what they are for purposes of our class projects. I will ask my instructor. I appreciate the response. I have never used Wikipedia to edit anything, so this is all new for me. Thank you! Gopp22 (talk) 20:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Gopp22 You're welcome. Sorry for any confusion; I edit Wikipedia directly and not through the platform, so some of the details of how it is presented to students is opaque to me. You're right about #2 and #3 above being working drafts in your user space at Wikipedia, and from what you say it sounds like your student platform gives you links pointing there, which is great because it simplifies things for you instead of having to figure out where to put stuff (and also makes it easier for the instructor to manage when all the students do it the same way). So, yes, afaik they are working pages/drafts/sandboxes or whatever you want to call them, where you can semi-privately develop stuff before it is ready to be moved to the live article online.
- Maybe the confusion is just between the words page and article. The word article (short for "Wikipedia article") is any of our 6,799,168 articles on encyclopedic topics visible to anyone on the Internet, like Eiffel Tower, or Germans of Serbia. Notice that I only used the word article for link #1 above. The word page (short for "Wikipedia page") is any page hosted at Wikipedia, even development or discussion pages like your Bibliography, my user page, Brianda's talk page where we are talking right now, the Wikipedia:Tea house where you can go to ask questions, and many, many more. Those are all pages, but not articles, and there are about 60 million of them. Does that make more sense now? Brianda will be better able to answer specific questions about Wiki Ed and the student plaform, which I am unfamiliar with. Hope that helps, Mathglot (talk) 21:01, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Mathglot thank you. What you explained makes sense; however, I am now confused on another level - you say there are three pages. There is only one page I was hoping to work on (#1) but for our student platform it includes links for our assignments that say things such as "work on your bibliography here" and the here will link to a page (#2 and #3 for example were links I followed to create a bibliography and to add content). To me, at the time, I understood these to be working pages, like areas to create drafts. Maybe that is what they are for purposes of our class projects. I will ask my instructor. I appreciate the response. I have never used Wikipedia to edit anything, so this is all new for me. Thank you! Gopp22 (talk) 20:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Student Editor (Internet Security Awareness: Cybersecurity Public Awareness Campaigns)[edit]
- Hi Brianda,
- Thank you for your greeting in my Talk page. I would like you to please review User:Sjirapanjavat/Cybersecurity Public Awareness Campaigns on its content via my sandbox. During the training, I am allow to make just small edit so I think my contents would be beneficial to others, however, I would like you to review my work prior to publish on the live feed.
- Respectfully yours,
- Sapol Jirapanjavat
Sjirapanjavat (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
How is an ESL and college composition course allowed[edit]
I imagine everyone knows how detrimental I think WikiEd is already, but this really takes the cake. A course for ESL students to practice their English and learn American college essay composition writing, a style actively discouraged. Either the students are going to be prompted to clean up their work and not learn what their college wants, or Wikipedia is going to be left with some essay attempts to clean up. I mean, perennial problems with WikiEd but this time you're encouraging it. Kingsif (talk) 23:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Kingsif, If you take a look at the course description, the instructor is having the students focus on research and contributing reliable sources to existing article topics. They also emphasize the informative style of writing required for this project.
- If you have any concerns about the course once students begin editing, give me a ping. Brianda (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks[edit]
...for your kind email, and thanks for all the fine work you do here, shepherding the kids. I was one myself once, and can confirm that I was unbearable. Cheers, Wikishovel (talk) 00:23, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Bibliography feedback requested by Student Editor[edit]
Hello Briana! Thank you for the greetings! I'm a student editor and adding to the topic about vanity sizing and was wondering if you can please look it over and provide any feedback to User:Leil4hhh/Vanity sizing/Bibliography Any feedback would be appreciated, thank you!
Sincerely,
Leilah G Leil4hhh (talk) 00:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi Leilah, I'm Mathglot. I saw your message here, so I looked over your Bibliography sandbox. I notice that you copied it to Vanity sizing in this edit. I'm not sure what your goal is at that article, but so far those references don't appear to be used to verify any specific content in the article, so I've moved them in this edit to a new, § Further reading section, where I think they fit better for the time being. If you plan on expanding the article using these refs, or using them to cite existing content, just move them up from Further reading to the body of the article where required. If you would like to share your plans for the Bibliography below, Brianda may be better able to help you further. Good luck in your class! Mathglot (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)