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first edit to my talk page (2003-03-15)[edit]

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DYK for Mohammad Fahad al-Qahtani[edit]

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Saudi soldier death section[edit]

Hello there, user. Consider that you were taking charge of contributing to the Saudi Arabian protests, if you read the recent news there would be two deaths: a protester and a government soldier. I have place the soldier name as part of the death list, but I can't really tell if that's the right place to put, unless if you really want the death table section to be under protester-ONLY death (meaning no pro-government troops were included). Either way, I will leave those for you to decide where you want to put the soldier's death. Thanks

Myronbeg (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the note, i'll have a look. BTW, i would recommend that details relevant to an article go on the article's discussion page, and a note on my talk page to let me know is enough. Also, remember WP:OWN. So even if i edit your edits, it doesn't make me the owner... If the KSA authorities ignore the 2000s in Morocco option, sooner or later there'll soon by an avalanche of new editors and i'll become a minority editor. Boud (talk) 18:21, 4 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Saudi protests[edit]

Hi, user. You will need this:

August 5 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/254508.html

August 6 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/06/254715/saudis-hold-antiregime-demo-in-tarout/

August 7 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/254934.html

And recently 13 August http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=427435

This one is hard to use: the Ministry only says that the shooting occurred in a region where political protests take place, and specifically claims there is no link with the political protests. I think the others are now in the timeline. Boud (talk) 23:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks
Myronbeg (talk) 13:12, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, user. There are two events ongoing, but for the one in Awamiyah, do you think it should be under the Saudi protests or it just another outside event? If it should be included then I will include another death toll.

http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/saudis-stage-rare-protest-over-security-detentions-without-trial

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Bangladeshi_man_shot_dead_in_Shiite_area_of_Saudi_Arabia.html?cid=33494664

Thanks. Myronbeg (talk) 14:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/24/us-saudi-protests-idUSBRE88M0GT20120924 Myronbeg (talk) 05:51, 24 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCABRE88Q05920120927 Myronbeg (talk) 07:57, 27 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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DYK for Political prisoners in Saudi Arabia[edit]

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Nice going with that article. Mohamed CJ (talk) 16:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Saud al-Hashimi[edit]

Are you familiar with this case? [1] If I can find enough sources, I'm going to try to start an article on al-Hashimi in the next couple days. Thought you might be interested, given your previous work in this area. Cheers, and enjoy the week, -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:21, 21 October 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thursday Qatif demo[edit]

http://observers.france24.com/content/20121109-people-will-not-forget-those-killed-saudi-shiites-march-dead-saudi-arabia-qatif-protest Myronbeg (talk) 04:27, 10 November 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November battle (dubious) of Damascus[edit]

It was agreed already on the talk page of that article that there are no sources to confirm a Battle of Damascus, it was the POV of one editor, Alhanuty. Also, the article was more of a content fork from the Rif Dimashq campaign article. All other editors agreed that the info from the article was better suited to Rif Dimashq campaign article (by a count of 3 to 1). And it was merged. Alhanuty went against consensus and reverted back without even talking. Alhanuty didn't even try to start a new discussion, he simply went against a majority consensus. And I'm once again pointing out that the article, which he created, is totally at this point his own POV because there are no sources to indicate a battle for Damascus or even a siege as he suggested. Also, more than half the content he put in the article is already in the other one. The current rebel offensive that Alhanuty has been pointing out to has not been happening in Damascus itself, but 30 kilometers to the east of the capital in Rif Dimashq province, which the Rif Dimashq campaign article already covers in detail. This includes the airport which itself is not in the capital itself, but 30 kilometers southeast from it, and is already covered in the other article. I have merged the new content that you added to the Rif Dimashq campaign article, thank you for those updates. EkoGraf (talk) 14:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

P.S. I clarified those sentences you pointed out to at the Casualties article. Hope they are good now. :) EkoGraf (talk) 14:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, since it has become a hot topic I made a totally new proposal at Rif Dimashq campaign article. The main central article on all the fighting in Damascus capital and Rif Dimashq province will be 2011–2012 Damascus clashes. The sub-articles to that article will be Battle of Damascus/Operation Damascus Volcano, Darayya massacre, 1st Rif Dimashq offensive (military August-September; result - indecisive), 2nd Rif Dimashq offensive (rebel November-present; result - ongoing). So in essence I am proposing to split Rif Dimashq campaign up into a 1st offensive and 2nd offensive articles, the military one and rebel one. Since the issue of the scope of the article has been hotly debated. And some even proposed that the article cover all the way since November 2011, but 2011–2012 Damascus clashes already does this. So, can we agree on splitting the article into two offensives? Since we already agreed that there have in fact been two offensives. And the 2nd offensive article would of course also include the current sporadic clashes in the capital, although they are still minimal. EkoGraf (talk) 15:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In reply to not seeing Alhanuty commenting anywhere on that talk page, he is user 24.0.208.70. In any case seems we have reached a wide agreement on what to do with all of the articles. EkoGraf (talk) 14:23, 4 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Title change[edit]

Can you comment on this also? Talk:Rif Dimashq offensive (November 2012–present)#Damascus offensive. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I agree with you re Contract of mandate. Now deleted.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:45, 27 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Hi and thanks[edit]

Hiya. I just wanted to say how much I appreciated your support on the unintentional but irritating debacle on the recent 2013 Ghouta attacks edit block. I picked it up, and you put much work running with it. I recommended at the beginning that a SP should be set. It was rejected. I think that was the worst admin oversight. No blame, just having to think off the cuff. Anyway, cheers! Irondome (talk) 05:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Glad that you found my work useful! Boud (talk) 15:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dolfinarium Harderwijk[edit]

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DYK for Geneva II Middle East peace conference[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Global Hunger Alliance[edit]

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DYK for Anti male-guardianship campaign[edit]

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YasminaDD (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2018 (UTC)Thanks Boud[edit]

YasminaDD (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2018 (UTC) Hi Boud.Thanks for your edit. I added a reference for the first "citation needed". However, for the second part, I am not sure how can I cite emails and meetings that took place years ago?Reply[reply]

Other Wikipedians will have to judge the validity of your first reference - see WP:NONENG for suggestions.
For the second part, you would need to convince, for example, a journalist or someone active in a human rights organisation that this is an important issue, and provide the emails and reports or verbal memories of the meetings to that person to help convince him/her that this really happened. If that person then published a report (preferably online: newspaper article, human rights report) with the information in those sentences, then that would be one example of a secondary source for the information. Someone who is recognised as a journalist or publishes in a serious newspaper, or who is active in a human rights organisation and succeeds in getting his/her report published officially, is someone who has judged the validity of the information and should be aware of the context; his/her report or article will also have gone through several degrees of criticism by colleagues/editors. This type of procedure does not guarantee that the information is reliable, but it does tend to remove some obvious types of false facts. Different organisations and publishers also have different reputations for fact-checking. As long as the publishers have been around for a long time, Wikipedians can generally make some judgement about whether a publisher satisfies WP:RS or not, although obviously there's a fuzzy middle ground.
If Yasminah E. has an online public cv, then that would count as a primary source, which is not normally acceptable - see e.g. Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Misuse_of_primary_sources, although there are exceptions.
This might sound unfair, since you feel that these facts are important and should be in the Wikipedia article and you're sure they're true. (I personally have no reason to believe that they're false, and they seem both credible and relevant to me.) But you have to think of the whole system of trying to check claims of facts and trace their sources, and see the point of view of Wikipedians and Wikipedia readers. There are millions of people around the world who contact ministers and bureaucrats and politicians and successfully convince them to implement administrative/legal changes. But who judges what were the "causal" factors that led to the change? Journalists, historians, human rights organisations have (some) credibility for judging what the facts are and how significant they are and who/what was most important in getting the change to happen. Wikipedia does not substitute for them. You can see longer (more careful :)) explanations of what I've more or less said here in the links above, especially:
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H2 refers to "You're not allowed to approve your own hook...". Sure, that's obvious.
I guess what you're trying to say is that my variations on FallingGravity's hook and tweaking of his/her ALT3 hook are felt by you to be "my" hook. Given that ALT1 and ALT2 contained almost the same information as FallingGravity's original hook, and that FallingGravity wrote ALT3, and I only modified it a little, I don't really think it can be called "my" hook without modification of the guideline.
I propose to work on your suggestion of an extra guideline at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Supplementary_guidelines#H5_-_a_reviewer-modified_hook_needs_a_third-party_reviewer. Boud (talk) 07:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just to clarify in this particular case: although I wouldn't use the description "my hook", I do see that it would have been useful to let a third-party reviewer judge whether or not to finish the review, e.g. using subst:DYK?again, especially since there's a BLP aspect here. Boud (talk) 08:03, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help adding an article about prominent woman?[edit]

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Hi. I've moved this article to draft because it is in a pretty poor state. It looks like you created it from existing content so it's nothing personal. However, it's obvious that the subject of the article has been editing it and it is basically promotional from start to finish. If you want to do anything about it, you know where to find it. Deb (talk) 12:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Deb. I've put an edit history analysis at Draft talk:Naresh Dadhich (political scientist)#Disambiguation from 2008. So yes, the "this-is-ND's-brilliant-self-cv" content was put copied there by me under the assumption that it was covered by CC-BY-SA, without condoning the (low) quality. As a matter of principle, do we have any policies about removing an article from mainspace to Draft - without any of the normal discussion procedures for move and delete proposals?
In terms of practicality, in this particular case, it's probably hard to complain and WP:SNOWBALL applies. In 12 years of en.WP history, the ND-political-scientist article has not progressed at all. Four titles of what appear to be books and no other bibliometric information do not constitute a list of verifiable references for inline sourcing of factual claims in the article. The involvement of User:Nareshdadhich, whose user page looks like a not-very-humble cv, doesn't suggest that the person most motivated to improve the quality of the article by asking for help from uninvolved parties has made any effort to read any Wikipedia guidelines. (Which makes me wonder about the author's would-be academic skills...)
So I'm not disputing the move, but I am curious about whether a policy exists. There could be similar cases that are not so clear-cut. Boud (talk) 21:14, 27 January 2019 (UTC) minor edit Boud (talk) 21:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think so, but I've done it once or twice recently (I should add that I came across this one purely by accident - I wasn't tracking the article creator or anything.) It certainly meets the criteria for speedy deletion, but this seemed like a less drastic solution. I'm not sure where to go from here. Deb (talk) 21:18, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's an unreferenced BLP. That would have justified deletion. I agree that draftifying was nicer. I'm going to put a template on the ND-the-Wikipedian's talk page - as a retired political scientist and VC, he might be willing to invest the time to learn the elementary academic principles as practised at en.Wikipedia. Chances are he hasn't yet realised that this corner of "the Internet" is not just "click and it works", and that intellectual care and effort are expected and required. Boud (talk) 21:26, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In case you're curious, Deb - you can see my suggestions at User talk:Nareshdadhich. Boud (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Sovereignty Council of Sudan[edit]

Hi Why the name of the article is Sovereignty Council of Sudan and not Sovereignty Council? --Panam2014 (talk) 23:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Panam2014 - In this name change MayorCarter made the change from Sovereignty Council (2019) to Sovereignty Council of Sudan without respecting the fact that a debate was opened: I warned him/her about that. I'm assuming good faith, that MayorCarter will learn from this mistake. In terms of Wikipedia principles, the move made by MayorCarter has no effect on the discussion, except for annoying people. If you like you can ask for admin help for temporary move protection - and explain that it would help for the present discussion to move the name back to the name when the move request started, to reduce confusion. Keep in mind that the better you explain yourself, with appropriate links, rather than forcing admins to have to look for all the info themselves, the more likely it is that an admin will respond to you quickly. Start from the top of Wikipedia:Protection_policy for more info about admins (how they're selected, who they are) and this particular role of admins. See Template:diff for a guideline on how to show individual edits like I did above. Boud (talk) 00:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bluetooth mesh networking - Community usage[edit]

A note about using a peer-to-peer communication app in HK is interesting, but I'm afraid it's not about Bluetooth mesh protocol, as standardized by Bluetooth SIG. To my knowledge, none of the phones available on the market are capable of peer-to-peer Bluetooth mesh communication. They only can talk to mesh network if one of the nodes provide them with so-called proxy capability. So I assume that Bridgefy app uses some other form of mesh communication, most probably based on iBeacon protocol. iBeacon is based on Bluetooth Low Energy like Bluetooth mesh is, but they are different things. Summarizing, I'd suggest to move your info to some other Bluetooth- or mesh- related pages. MichalHobot (talk) 11:43, 3 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MichalHobot: The sources used in the article do not, as far as I can see, make the surprising claim that "mesh networking" is a protocol. It might well be true that Bridgefy is not based on the Bluetooth Mesh network specifications but instead on iBeacon, which according to you depends on Bluetooth Low Energy. If so, please add your sources and cite the info from them at Bridgefy, and it would be best to use web.archive.org or wikiwix.com to include archiveurl's so that if the sources are volatile, the Wikipedia entries will still make sense in a few years' time. Nobody guarantees that s/he will maintain any given Wikipedia article...
It would be best to place more specific discussion on the talk pages of these articles - interested readers and editors are more likely to find the info in the obvious place in that case - thanks! :) Boud (talk) 01:16, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
MichalHobot, a Comparison of mesh networking software might be a good thing to make from some of the software at Category:Mesh networking. We also have Smartphone ad hoc network, Wireless ad hoc network and Wireless mesh network, which seems like it might be a bit redundant. HLHJ (talk) 02:58, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Question about https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_the_2011%E2%80%9312_Saudi_Arabian_protests_(from_July_2012)&oldid=prev&diff=925222111

How do you fix the "|first= missing |last=" errors? Quebec99 (talk) 17:24, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think you may have already started fixing that - see this edit. Instead of first and last, use author. My interpretation is that these authors are initials, but there would be no point trying to separate out the initials into "last" and "first" names. It would be speculation. In principle, looking at the newspaper's list of journalists should make it possible to work out who is who, but that would be quite a bit of work. Boud (talk) 17:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I made a few of these changes just now, but I'm happy to leave it to you to do more on this series of pages. Since Press TV often lists two authors with a slash - AB/CD, meaning e.g. Andrew Bloggs and Carol Dean - we could in principle split to |author1=AB |author2=CD. Since the author information in this case is already weak, I would say that keeping a single author is just as useful as the split. Boud (talk) 17:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Thanks for catching those &nbsp; that my editor adds for me (seemingly randomly). I don't always notice when it happens. Apologies! 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 19:07, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're&nbsp;welcome.&nbsp;:) Boud (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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These tools help to align the date format in the articles. To let editors know the last time the tool was used, it changes the template date to the current year and month. Dawnseeker2000 17:28, 5 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, I re-read the info at the top of Template:Use_dmy_dates - I think you (and the bot) are right about the intended meaning of the date tag in the use dmy dates case. Boud (talk) 20:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2018–19 Iraqi protests → 2018 Iraqi protests[edit]

Only you and me have expressed opinions. Do u know anyone who could finally close that move request and do the rename? 83.11.94.170 (talk) 16:47, 7 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Anybody with an account can move the page. (I've gone ahead and done it.) Could you look back over the article and restructure it so it doesn't still have 2018 protests / 2019 protests as its main division? I hacked away everything post-summer 2019, but decided to leave the actual sectioning of the remaining gno-ledge to the experts. :) 🌿 SashiRolls t · c 23:28, 7 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have read that involved editors should not close requests. I have no idea about the two sections division. Certainly there should remain some reference into 2019. Hacking away only post-summer 2019? Well since the rename everything post 2018 should go out. So I did some of it also. Thanks. 83.11.94.170 (talk) 03:41, 8 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Everything should go out except a general reference of 2019. Well what is now does not look bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.94.170 (talk) 03:44, 8 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Reference TO 2019. Sorry. English is not my native. 83.11.214.121 (talk) 18:05, 11 December 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Protests of 2019[edit]

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Helping me with updating a file.[edit]

Hey, You have previously said that there's a button "Upload a new version of this file" on the Commons:File:COVID-19 Outbreak Cases in Poland.svg but I dont see any button like that, and there's also is a text saying "You cannot overwrite this file." So, how I can upload an updated, a newer version of that .svg picture? Thx, for help. Natanieluz (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Natnieluz: If you have Polish set in your preferences: go to the bottom of the section "Historia pliku". Just above the next section "Wykorzystanie pliku" you should see "Załaduj nowszą wersję tego pliku". In English do the equivalent. :) In many browsers (e.g. firefox), you can use Ctrl-f to search for a string (sequence of characters) within the page. Do you see "You cannot overwrite this file." at the position in the page that I'm talking about? Boud (talk) 17:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I found the explanation: Commons:Commons:FAQ#How_can_I_upload_a_new_version_of_a_file.3F + Commons:User_talk:Natanieluz - you only created an account at Commons at 16:43, 6 March 2020 UTC = 17:43 CET, so you'll have to wait two more days, until 17:43 CET 10 March, before being able to upload new versions. I don't think that for you to switch to new file names for each update until then would be reasonable. The idea of forcing people to wait until they've had a chance to learn is reasonable, and four days is not extremely long. For reading through the various guideline pages, four days is in fact rather short. Building an encyclopedia is a long-term project. At your talk page on Commons you have a welcome message pointing to lots of th e key guidelines. If you switch your preferences language to Polish, then this welcome message will very likely to switch to Polish. Boud (talk) 17:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: medonet ref as generic source[edit]

Yes, you are right.

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Table collapse and sorting[edit]

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Ref source in templates[edit]

Hey, you often write: the ref source is/should be in one of the templates, can You tell me where (in which template this is), how You made that source and how to use it? Natanieluz (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hi Natanieluz. The templates are Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Poland medical cases and Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Poland medical cases by voivodeship (which you edit quite often). The idea is that the full source for a reference should only be in one of these; references in the other or in the main article should be repeat references. I've noticed that recently you've started using repeat references :), which to me makes sense. However, you're using ref names such as ":0", which apparently is the only option allowed by Visual Editor. I edit the wikicode directly using a text editor. This allows me to use the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts, almost without using the mouse, which makes editing fast and efficient. I use the firefox browser and the emacs text editor. Emacs has many powerful tools to make systematic editing efficient. To use these two together, in my ~/.emacs file I have
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/lisp")
(require 'edit-server)
(edit-server-start)
and in ~/.emacs.d/lisp/ I have the edit-server.el code that does the work. Here's a longer explanation. When I start an "edit" on Wikipedia, I see a little "edit" button at the bottom-right of my editing window; if I click on this, I get a standard emacs editing window, which has the full power of emacs, rather than just the firefox editing tools. I don't know if VE (Visual Editor) shows you the reference names; if you try edit code to at least look at the source, you'll see ref names such as MOHPL_LD8_DS5_OP1_SL1_ZP1_PD1_17Mar. The idea is that when you're looking at the full reference, you cross-check the name against the actual source of the reference; and when you're editing numbers in a table, you can add up the numbers from the name, e.g. if the references for one day include DS5 DS2 DS1, then you expect to get DS=8.
With other powerful text editors (where you can do everything from the keyboard without wasting time with a mouse), e.g. vi, (and there are many, many text editor programs available that are less powerful than emacs and vi), you'll have to find other ways of connecting them to your browser.
For making the structured references, you're welcome to cut and paste from notes on my user page (they're obviously CC-BY-SA, since they're on Wikipedia), or make similar notes on your own page.
Hope this answers your question. :) (BTW, in English you don't capitalise the "y" in you, except at the beginning of a sentence. :)) Boud (talk) 22:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: ohh ok, thanks - and sorry for late answer but I have pretty bussy days right now. Yea and I know that "you" is writted with "y" not "Y", but I like starting you with "Y" couse of (for me) that make more pleasant and welcoming  :). So there is a more "easy" way to make that sources like you? or is this 100% needed to be done with every source? Natanieluz (talk) 18:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Each of us contributes what s/he can: we're all volunteers, including you. I think that this method (with names such as MOHPL_LD8_DS5_OP1_SL1_ZP1_PD1_17Mar) is good and will tend to reduce errors, but you've seen that I made a few errors recently, even with this method. I've seen that a few other editors have been following the method with the information in the ref name. But as long as you don't mind me or others updating your references with the longer named ones, you shouldn't feel bad about adding references with the ":0" label from VisualEditor. This is already better than copy/pasting the same reference in full detail many times. :) Boud (talk) 21:44, 20 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: okey, if I am not wrong, I can "manualy" (in VisualEditor or in source editor) edit that ":0" to source name, like you done here [2], in short - when I publish changes in VE and then we have ":0" I can manualy overwrite which source name e.g."MOHPL_WP4_DS3_PD2_PK1_MA1_LU1_KP1_452tot_21Mar", if that will work - I will do that Natanieluz (talk) 14:24, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Natanieluz: Sounds good to me. :) Boud (talk) 14:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: I did it, there isn't anymore ":0", can you see if that works normally? thx, Natanieluz (talk) 20:48, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Natanieluz: Nice work :). I made just one edit on the voivodeships template.
Also see this edit to the medical cases template. If you look carefully at the two templates, you'll see <noinclude>...</noinclude> sections in each, at the top, and at the bottom. This means that when the template is included in another page, the noinclude parts are ignored. Each of these two templates calls the other one in its own noinclude section. If you look at a template on its own, you see the noinclude parts. This way, a reference in one can be used in the other, and looks OK without having to go to the main article. But also, the main article does not end up with multiple copies of the same reference. If you want, you can experiment in your user space, e.g. create User:Natanieluz/sandbox/test, User:Natanieluz/sandbox/medtemplate, User:Natanieluz/sandbox/voivodetemplate, and put {{User:Natanieluz/sandbox/voivode}} in a noinclude section in /sandbox/medtemplate, and do it the other way around too, and put in some simple references. Put in a bit of text, enough to avoid getting confused which article is where. Boud (talk) 21:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: now is everything good? Natanieluz (talk) 18:38, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Natanieluz: In terms of the logic of referencing and cross-referencing, I didn't see any mistakes. :) I looked at your edits without separating them from those of other people - there were one or two others who made minor changes not long after you did - but I assume the changes were mostly from your edits. I made one change (to the three pages) in the name label: there was DS twice, instead of MA4 the second time. The numbers in the tables were correct (it seems to me); it's only the label itself that was wrong, and it was wrong in a consistent way, so it was only a problem for humans, not for robots. Someone coming along later (one of us or someone else) might have got confused later on. I made that sort of mistake in name labels at least once or twice. Also, I replaced http by https - for some people this is quite important for personal privacy - see especially Edward Snowden to understand why most of the world shifted from http to https a few years ago - and I changed archive.vn to archive.today - see this discussion. Boud (talk) 20:10, 22 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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@JzG: At the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page I do not see any proposal for deletion for Template:WikiLeaks cable, and I don't see a proposal notice at Template:WikiLeaks cable itself either. Is there a deletion proposal? If so, where is it? Boud (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you proposing to delete the template itself in the same proposal as the redirects? That's rather confusing - deleting a redirect to a template is less serious than deleting a template itself. However, I'll assume that that's what you mean. Boud (talk) 19:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Boud, no, just the redirects. Guy (help!) 21:40, 18 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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SARS-CoV-2 spread in Poland and its neighbours[edit]

Rgarding 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Poland, I believe you are responsible for producing this insightful gnuplot graph of "SARS-CoV-2 spread in Poland and its neighbours".

The graph can be still improved:

a) Please always use the red color for the most important country, in this case: Poland b) Please arrange the countries on the graph's legend roughly in the same order as the are placed in the figure, namely, from top to bottom: DE, CZ, PL etc so that the eye need not search the entire graph to localize the next country in the graph c) remove labels from the "y" axis for the multiplicities of 2 (2, 20, 200, etc.) d) on the y axis, introduce minor tics (in gnuplot: "set mytics 10"). Their length is typically half the length of ordinary tics e) it should be possible to draw the "30% slope% curve as a dashed line. Ths would easily indicate that this curve is different in nature and does not represent any country. Also, please do remove the symbols from its ends!!! You can also reduce the line thickness for it.

Anyway, great job, this is my favorite figure for many days!

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Look at Poland_medical_cases_by_voivodeship.[edit]

@Boud: Hey, can you look at [3], I'am not sure if everything is correct, there were too many info from MOHPL today, they are even correcting there own tweets. Natanieluz (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Singapore medical cases[edit]

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Nice close![edit]

You did a good job summarizing all arguments and closing the RfC on discrimination in the coronavirus pandemic article. I'm impressed! -Darouet (talk) 22:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Darouet: Thanks. I was a bit worried - at Talk:2020 coronavirus pandemic in Poland/Archive 2#Too much politics my editing on that page is mostly described as propaganda (without targetting me personally). I disagree, but I listen to criticism. :) Boud (talk) 01:18, 11 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The decentralised Fediverse servers.[edit]

@Boud: Hey, you often write about this Fediverse or/and Mastodon, e.g. here [4] can you provide me any examples of other gov having a server there? I'm quite interested in this, and sources/examples will be very helpful :), Natanieluz (talk) 10:48, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Natanieluz: OK, I'll keep an eye out for that. My comment was mainly that any government department could do that. For the moment, what I know of includes:
  • https://mastodon.etalab.gouv.fr/about - the description at the right ("Instance ouverte...") says that the server is a test server, that creating an account is open to all employees of the French state, provided they have an account on .gouv.fr (general French state domain) or on one of other certain other domains listed on the link, which includes many research organisations, some universities, the Parliament, the Senate; any new user must first read the terms and conditions (CGU); 1600 users are registered, 118 are "active" (which seems to be defined as "did something in the previous month").
Boud (talk) 11:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Natanieluz: Not quite the same topic, but related - pressure on governments to provide open data: https://opendatabarometer.org/4thedition/report/ - Poland is ranked 46th out of 114 countries in the 4th edition (2017). Boud (talk) 20:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: ohh, Poland is behind Russia and Turkey... And unfortunately things in Poland is getting worse and worse, even yesterday (13 april) I saw a public attack by Polish government controlled media (TVP) "Telewizja Polska" they attack private oppositional tv media (TVN) (TVN is owned by Discovery group), they are even attacking journalists's family :/
And the saddest thing is that even if they sue that gov propaganda - most of our courts and judges are politicized, here you have [5] a example what "our" judges from political attached do. (This "judge" is a member of totaly politicized National Council of the Judiciary (pl. KRS) most (if not all...) of judges who are sitting there are political members, there are not neutral, there are not independent.Natanieluz (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Barnstar for current events article[edit]

The Current Events Barnstar
this barnstar is hereby awarded for all your edits at Protests of 2019. well done!! we very much need that article here. thanks for your efforts!Sm8900 (talk) 03:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Please accept this barnstar, with my compliments. By the way, I am the Lead Coordinator at WP:History, and also the head of WP:Contemporary History task force. --Sm8900 (talk) 03:42, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Sm8900: Thanks for the compliments :). But I'm wondering if the delete procedure can be appealed since the person who contributed probably about 70% of the content last time I checked - me - was not alerted to the AfD proposal. I had no idea that there was a new AfD going on. Right now I'm rather busy, and the edit record should not disappear from the WMF archives. It would probably be easiest to restore the article once there are some peer-reviewed academic articles on the topic rather than hurrying to re-create it. The difficulty is that academics studying the topic are more likely to be studying what's happening sociologically in relation to the pandemic... Boud (talk) 23:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
no problem. I'm very glad that you said that. not only can it be appealed.... it is being appealed. click this link to view it! so hopefully, perhaps we can get this article to be retained!!!
thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

note re Protests of 2019 article revisions[edit]

hi., what is the latest status, on the edit process or article improvement process for Protests of 2019? I have saved the latest version in my user space, at User:Sm8900/Drafts/Protests of 2019. you are welcome to work on it there, or alternately to create your own copy. could you please let me know what the current status is? I appreciate all your efforts. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 19:12, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't quite follow. The article, including its full edit history and copyright of all the authors, is temporarily undeleted at Protests of 2019. In terms of copyright, I am forbidden from working on any version that includes contributions by other authors without the proper copyright tracing, since the copyright conditions of their contributions - CC-BY-SA by default unless they declare something like PD on their user pages - require full attribution. There's a procedure we can look up for requesting a copy of the full article including the edit history in user space, but I'm not going to look it up right now.
But back to your question: I technically cannot edit or improve the article right now (unless I write a script to download the full edit history and reconstruct that on another mediawiki server, which I'm not going to do; or if one of us requests restoral of a full copy with full attribution in our user space). The temporary undeletion makes it a little easier to respond at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2020_June_15#Protests_of_2019. I'll discuss there. In principle you should put a warning on the snapshot that you have made about attribution and the context. Boud (talk) 22:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sm8900: - see Wikipedia:Userfication#Userfication_of_deleted_content and Category:Wikipedia_administrators_willing_to_provide_copies_of_deleted_articles for policy and admins willing to provide you with a userfied copy of the article. You should also ask the same admin to delete - on your request - the page User:Sm8900/Drafts/Protests of 2019 - on the grounds that you created this with the best of intentions, but without realising the problems of missing attribution. I don't think just a warning placed there is really enough. I would also suggest that you place your opinion in the DRV as either endorse or overturn or relist, in the style that others have done, with a very brief summary of your reasons, and briefly state that longer comments by you are above. That would make it easier for uninvolved people to more easily get an overview of the discussion. Boud (talk) 00:41, 19 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok. thanks for your important points on that. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

COVID-19 in Poland site[edit]

Hey!
can you take care of this site COVID-19 pandemic in Poland nad Statistics of the COVID-19 pandemic in Poland for a few days? I will be offline until Monday or Tuesday. I will be glad if you can replace me for few days, and update that site regularly. :) Natanieluz (talk) 12:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Peacebuilding institutions has been nominated for merging[edit]

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Category:Peace mechanism has been nominated for renaming[edit]

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Protestor vs protesters[edit]

@Boud: Hello, I'm Akmaie Ajam. I need to clear up ambiguity about whether "protestor" should be corrected into "protester" or that "protestor" is correct and just an alternative to "protester". I'm confused about whether to correct it or not because you reverted my edit in the Sudanese Revolution article but not in the 2020 Belarusian protests article. Thank you. ᐱᔌᕬᐱɭᕮ ᐱᒍᐱᕬ (Talk) 08:49, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Akmaie Ajam: Selamat malam (di sini sekarang malam)! :) See wikt:protestor. Both are correct. The general policy with a question of style like this (such as US vs AU/UK English) is to prefer consistency within any single article. Consistency between different articles is not generally expected. Once an article is one style, it's generally not a good idea to change unless there's a special reason to, or if all editors agree. The Sudanese Revolution article (that started off as a "protests" article), has had "protestors" for a long time. The Belarusian 2020 protests articles had had "protesters" more or less since it started (I think). Keduanya artikul baik. Boud (talk) 21:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Boud: I'm surprised that you can speak Indonesian. Anyways, thank you (terima kasih). ᐱᔌᕬᐱɭᕮ ᐱᒍᐱᕬ (Talk) 06:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks![edit]

I'd come across Eman al-Nafjan when looking for sources for Riyadh International Book Fair, whose red links (and long DYK nom on the talk page) you might find interesting. HLHJ (talk) 02:37, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Yes, thanks!  Done That was my error with an unfamiliar name. If you know how to say "Phakiso", preferably with a reference, then please add the info at Talk:Phakiso_Mochochoko#Pronunciation_of_Phakiso, or directly in the article after checking the expected Wikipedia conventions. Boud (talk) 01:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Requesting some help in article expansions[edit]

Hello

Greetings,

I visited your profile and and viewed couple of contributions. I have been supporting and looking for article expansion support for some of following.

After visiting your profile, a question came in my mind whether Wikipedia has any article on Women's role in promoting peace.

Please see do consider above topics and also help / support in expansion of those which you find interested in.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bookku: I only know of the one paragraph at Peace process#Women's participation (the reference is in the references section). There's an image next to the section that you may find useful. Boud (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bookku: PS: An article you may be interested in is Feminism in Saudi Arabia - women are organising and defending their humanity even in the most extreme misogynistic environments (as well as in more "moderately" misogynistic places). Boud (talk) 00:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ITN recognition for 2020 Polish protests[edit]

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Nice work! Thanks for making it Main Page-worthy! – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 16:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

November 2020[edit]

Information icon Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to October 2020 Polish protests, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 02:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are attempting a one-person edit war against overwhelming consensus. So let's look at the evidence and get more and more uninvolved parties to look at the case. Boud (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Ping to administrators[edit]

This is just a ping to admins that Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Ready) Ongoing: 2020 Indian farmers' protest is ready and waiting for posting either with a blurb or as Ongoing, as you see fit based on the discussion there. Boud (talk) 00:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Closing as it has been posted. Several admins monitor ITNC, so it isn't necessary to make a help request. 331dot (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All-Poland women strike[edit]

Dear Boud, I'm concerned about the impartiality of editing when it comes to "All-polish women strike" article. It is strange you address warnings to me, and not to the user Trasz and other anonymous who constantly remove sourced information? Are the statements I added false? About relevancy: What is relevant? Statement about Suchanow can be treated as a minor detail. But I do not remove it. The acts of symbolical violence by many organizers and protesters, devastations of monuments etc. are important hallmarks of the protest. The lack of clear condemnation of the violence by organizers is also important. I cited Marta Lempart herself and added original source. So do not aim your threats to me, rather help to write an unbiased article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semper liber sum (talkcontribs) 18:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The best place to discuss this is Talk:All-Poland Women's Strike#Graffiti on churches, masses disrupted - any relation to OSK? Boud (talk) 19:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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election forensics[edit]

I have just discovered, through your user page, that you were the author of the famous paper applying Benford's law on the results of the 2009 Iranian election. I had read about it ten years ago. This is fascinating. Have you written on the subject ever since? Kahlores (talk) 04:01, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kahlores: Glad you liked it. :) My main subject is cosmology, so the short answer regarding Benford's law is "almost nothing", apart from getting the paper peer-reviewed. I did write a chapter in this non-free Princeton book coordinated by Steven J. Miller (not the Trump guy), and a few weeks ago I did a quick calculation which Reuters included in its fact check on the "Elvis lives!" rumours about the US presidential election.
What you might find interesting, since you appreciated the 2009 paper (peer-reviewed in JApS), is my SARS-CoV-2 paper, currently waiting for the peer review report(s). It's again a "statistical signs of likely fraud" paper, using a completely different method, but again based on "what's obvious to an astronomer". Here's a brief popular explanation. Poland turned up as one of the "minor heroes" of the paper. Algeria and Belarus are the "champions" in defeating Poisson noise. The paper aims to be one of the new generation of quantitative science papers aiming at high-quality, long-term reproducibility: any quantitative scientist with reasonable scientific computing skills should be able to check the complete chain from the source data to the pdf form of the paper. Boud (talk) 11:48, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Grammatical error suggestion[edit]

Thanks for your suggestion at grammar mistakes that I edit. Regardless of grammar question, I'm not competing with Julietdeltalima, I'm constructing edit that tells Wikipedia's openness. See this edit by Iryna Chuiko, he have no idea what he is doing when editing the page which means "changed Kiev into Kyiv 9 times". Despite the title of the show is notably called Kiev Day and Night, not Kyiv, according to sources or even in Ukrainian language, this editor invert the proper title without competent reason. You should see their edit to the subject, not grammar alone. 196.188.241.215 (talk) 06:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm glad you weren't discouraged. :) I didn't want to get into the specific editing conflicts - you can always ask uninvolved editors to help if a conflict is difficult to resolve. I'll just comment that the Ukrainian language is normally written in cyrillic script, and since the Russian language is widely used in Ukraine (I don't know the political implications of the choice of language there), there's the problem of transliteration from either Ukrainian or Russian into the latin alphabet - which often leads to long disputes about the "correct" transliteration. See Talk:Maria Kalesnikava for a recent long title debate about a Belarusian trying to restore democracy in Belarus. (By the way, comments on talk pages are normally added at the bottom.) Boud (talk) 13:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Requesting article expansion help[edit]

Greetings

Requesting you to visit article Draft:Sexual politics and please do expand them if find yourself interested.

Thanks and warm regards

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Your edits on Eritrea[edit]

I restored your edits on the population of Eritrea. Since you did not engage in the discussion and preceded with doing changes without reaching consensus. Also you did several changes to include accusations of crimes supposedly committed in Tigray conflict by Eritrea. These are claims and not verified are not appropriate in that article.Leechjoel9 (talk) 18:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Followups are at Talk:Eritrea and Talk:Eritrean Defence Forces. A good background review about the "persistent, widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population and .. crimes against humanity and ... the crimes of enslavement, imprisonment, enforced disappearance, torture, other inhumane acts, persecution, rape and murder" in Eritrea as found in the 2019 Universal Periodic Review of Eritrea by the United Nations Human Rights Council might help anyone interested in following the discussion. Boud (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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LISTGAP[edit]

Hey, just a reminder that when you reply to :*, the options are :** or :*:. ::* is always wrong. (Lots of editors don't know it, and it's not the end of the world, but it is better to get it right when you can.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WhatamIdoing: It's not the end of the world, which is still another 4.5 Gyr or so away, but it's a bit embarrassing. :P Thanks for the correction here and at AN/I! :) Boud (talk) 22:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply